As explained by reddit user exteras: "Just so people don't get confused: these are real bills, printed by the US government. He buys uncut sheets of them from the Bureau of Engraving; anyone can buy these. He then takes them to a professional printer who cuts them up into pads and perforates them. He's not printing the bills themselves, and its not illegal."
@@Meowhsss Regarding the bills...This is the deal. It is a prank on anyone who will listen. Everything Woz says is true about using them for the last 20 years.... The bills are real two dollar bills. He has them perforated and put on a pad.....listen to what he actually says about the printer 'making them', he doesn't say they are 'printing them', Woz is not lying. The bills meet specs because the are real bills. It's classic Woz. And I feel bad for telling you.
Regarding the bills...This is the deal. It is a prank on anyone who will listen. Everything Woz says is true about using them for the last 20 years.... The bills are real two dollar bills. He has them perforated and put on a pad.....listen to what he actually says about the printer 'making them', he doesn't say they are 'printing them', Woz is not lying. The bills meet specs because the are real bills. It's classic Woz. And I feel bad for telling you.
on the steve-o podcast he showed it had repeat serial numbers...these are unauthorized notes. these are private property. us notes are federal property
@@95TeggyRS Was going to say this. They do a close up and you can clearly see all the bills have the same serial number. Its actually the same story word for word all these years later. It's 100% just a conversation bit to mess with people. I wouldn't be surprised its the same printed pad from this show 11 years later.
I think Woz is playing a bit of a game here. I've seen stories about him doing this before. It's real bills printed by the treasury. He's just buying the uncut sheets then binding them into a pad and perforating the sheets.
I like how smoothly he lets the ignorant interviewer make assumptions about it being counterfeit money that Woz prints himself. He words everything so carefully so as to not ruin the effect without claiming he did anything illegal (which he didn't). This guy is the man. 0:24 Woz: "I got him the supplies from a higher quality printer." 3:25 Dumb guy: "I just wanna be clear, you print this, this is your custom printing.." 3:29 Woz: "I have the printer make these pads for me."
The Bureau of Engraving and Printing is probably a higher quality printer. But his local print company can turn the sheets into very convenient pads which for some reason the Bureau of Engraving and Printing won't. I think the award for quality goes to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing but the award for customer service goes to his neighborhood print shop.
Yes, Woz buys the $2 bills from the Treasury Department in sheets, like any person can do. Then he goes to the printer (the place) who would perforate them and make notepads by gluing them together. I once bought a sheet of 4 bills (but I have no idea where I left them). He's pranking the audience by saying that it smells the same and he took some random president. But if you search a bit, you will find Woz hilarious story when he spent his $2 bills in a casino in Las Vegas ...
@@MarcKloos oh wow I can't believe you not only found the bills, but you updated here 4 years later. I don't remember anything I did 4 years ago. Awesome!
"These two $2 bills were attached to each other and perforated. You can purchase $1, $2, and now $5 bills from the Bureau of Printing and Engraving on sheets. The sheets come in sizes of 4, 16, and 32 bills each. I buy such sheets of $2 bills... I take the sheets of 4 bills and have a printer, located through friends, gum them into pads, like stationery pads. The printer then perforates them between the bills, so that I can tear a bill or two away."
@declangrindrod He NEVER said they were self printed. Listen to the story again. He said he used a "high quality supplier". Woz buys uncut 2$ bills from the US Treasury, there's lots of stories about him doing this. It actually costs him extra to buy the uncut bills from the Treasury, but he does it to prank people. The money is in fact legal tender, he just likes to see how people react to seeing them uncut like that.
He gets uncut sheets of real bills from the Department of Treasury and then he has a printer perforate them and make them into a pad. So they are real $2 bills, just very suspicious looking.
A lot of places won't take $2 bills. I think they're fun so I collect them but if I try to spend them there's a lot of Little Stores that don't believe they are real. Just because they are slightly rare but I'm surprised that people haven't seen or won't take cash.
It's not even leaving out part of the story. He made several comments about how his friend printed them and how suspicious they are and then most people don't seem to get the fact he was joking, unsurprisingly.
They're actually made from sheets of uncut $2 bills. You can buy them uncut from the Bureau of Engraving and Printing. He pays a local printer to bind and perforate them. It's totally legal because they're not forgeries.
because the uncut $2 bank notes are bought from The Bureau of Engraving , they're real money, anyone can buy them. Then he gets the sheets bound together by a local office supplies company so they look like a pad of money that he had made, though actually they are in fact real money.
He doesn’t mention once in this video that he doesn’t print them, nor does his printer friend - he purchases these and then takes them to a printer who perforates and makes them into pads for him.
Steve doesn't print his own $2 bills. He orders uncut sheets of 2's from the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, and has his vendor perforate them and mount them into these pads. When he refers to a "higher quality printer", he's talking about the Bureau. -jcr
because life is unfair.woz literally single-handedly made the apple I and apple II .he is a real time engineer.yet he faded away in the shadow of the mighty propaganda-fueled jobs i don't deny jobs was a genius,but the woz is a double genius jobs was.
so he buys legal tender bills that are still in sheets . he takes those sheets to a person who makes them into pads with perforations...since the money was made by a real federal institution and the bills have real serial numbers ...he is just modifying legal tender to be more nerdy. those people in the audience think he's counterfeiting bills for 20 years ...and getting away with it...bc he's so good at it..but its just real money in a funny format .
His discount is not 37.5%--- even without the perforation and binding, the sheets are probably worth $40 or $50 bucks--- uncut, mint bills are quite expensive.
@YellingSilently ACTUALLY, disregard my below post - I found an article Steve wrote about this here: woz.org/letters/general/78.html - he didn't tell the full story in the video, he made it seem like his friend printed the actual bills for him. What he actually does is buy the bills in sheet form from the Bureau of Engraving and Printing which will sell legal sheets of uncut currency, then he has a friend turn them into pads, so the bills are legal. He just left out part of the story.
I think its because in order for something to be legal tender it has to meet certain specs AND must be accepted by the person you are offering it to... also technically you can pay any debt with anything the person the debt is owed to accepts as tender like an exchange of goods kinda thing
Good to see such an amazing person sticking it to the man by telling minimum wage workers how stupid they are for not knowing that he can effectively make actual currency look fake. What a hero. The world definitely needs more people like Woz.
@stayfly123 Listen to him carefully as he says "His printer makes these" not "He printed them" What he does is buys full sheets of real $2 bills from the mint as those are sold to collectors who would frame them and gets a printing company to bind them into a book and ass perforations. It is legal as it is real money.
@00sturm I would suspect that because he is not attempting to counterfeit a note in circulation. Also, if he was accused of defrauding people by using them, he could simply identify it as barter, supported by the idea that he gave them a bill that was not in circulation which would not be commonly accepted as currency, as such the only reasonable contract of sale would be the barter of his 'notes' for their goods and or services.
No these are real banknotes, $2 bills are still made. What he does, and he was careful to play along with the confused interviewer by nog explaining the details, is buy uncut $2 sheets from the government that's his "higher quality supplier". He takes these to a local printing company who turns them into these pads. They're still real $2 bills which is why he can spend them. The Secret Service has had chats with him, they have questioned him as he says here, but they're well aware they're real and they can't really stop him.
@mortisnoctu its a joke. He buys the pads from the treasury. They are perfectly legal. You can buy it from them also. It cost more money but he is rich so he is fine
its like $20 dollars for uncut 4- $2 bills. He has them bound into a pad and perforated . So selling for 5 bucks is a total deal. He simply finds it funny using them for purchaces like coupons, or more to the joke, like he printed them . Noone perforates sheets of bills they paid 4 times their value for and uses them as cash. He is rich and it is funny. It is totally legal , just not usual or economical. You can buy 4,32 - $2 bill uncut sheets from Treasury. I do not think you can hand a sheet to cashier for groceries. But anyone who knows the cost of sheets of any bills - they would buy em for 5 or 33 bucks uncut , uncirculated quickly.
@declangrindrod The bills are in uncut sheets from the US Treasury. His High Quality Printer (person, not machine) machines it into a memo pad and perforates on the edge of each bill. I'd buy the whole pad from him at his 37.5% discount.
Jct: If he'd put "Steve Wozniak will redeem this $2 for 12 minutes of volunteer time", he could spend them like Hours in Ithaca N.Y. Or other time-based currencies. In 1999, I paid for 39/40 nights in Europe with an IOU for a night back in Canada worth 5 Hours. So I can think that everybody would take 30 of Steve's Scrip if he signed his name on it.
so he is actually not making any money for it right? Because he is said he is selling for 5 dollars and if they are real money he is giving out more money. Actually loosing money from it.
"Steve Wozniak prints his own pads of $2 bills" is totally misleading and a lie. I do not think half the people in the audience understood the joke nor do I believe the interviewer understood it was not printed by Steve. I didn't understand until someone explained in comments and I rewatched the video.
It costs less than $5 to make these sheets... So he's still profiting in pure money from selling these sheets rather than spending his fake money on items/objects (food, gum, pop, etc)
As explained by reddit user exteras:
"Just so people don't get confused: these are real bills, printed by the US government. He buys uncut sheets of them from the Bureau of Engraving; anyone can buy these. He then takes them to a professional printer who cuts them up into pads and perforates them.
He's not printing the bills themselves, and its not illegal."
So why does he sell them for $10? If they're worth $50.
@@reuploadify I believe this is a very appropriate use of “for the lulz”
This was an absolutely terrible explanation by Woz and lying by omission by Wozniak
@@Meowhsss Regarding the bills...This is the deal. It is a prank on anyone who will listen. Everything Woz says is true about using them for the last 20 years.... The bills are real two dollar bills. He has them perforated and put on a pad.....listen to what he actually says about the printer 'making them', he doesn't say they are 'printing them', Woz is not lying. The bills meet specs because the are real bills. It's classic Woz. And I feel bad for telling you.
@@cdoublejj it’s just dumb
Regarding the bills...This is the deal. It is a prank on anyone who will listen. Everything Woz says is true about using them for the last 20 years.... The bills are real two dollar bills. He has them perforated and put on a pad.....listen to what he actually says about the printer 'making them', he doesn't say they are 'printing them', Woz is not lying. The bills meet specs because the are real bills. It's classic Woz. And I feel bad for telling you.
is "the printer" the US mint?
@@pacman10182 Yes. But he probably has someone else perforate and bind them into those pads.
@@pacman10182 that's the "higher quality printer" he says he gets "the supplies" from at 0:25.
on the steve-o podcast he showed it had repeat serial numbers...these are unauthorized notes. these are private property. us notes are federal property
@@95TeggyRS Was going to say this. They do a close up and you can clearly see all the bills have the same serial number. Its actually the same story word for word all these years later. It's 100% just a conversation bit to mess with people. I wouldn't be surprised its the same printed pad from this show 11 years later.
The interviewer thought he tiptoes around that he did something illegal but he tiptoes around that he did something legal. Lovely.
I think Woz is playing a bit of a game here. I've seen stories about him doing this before. It's real bills printed by the treasury. He's just buying the uncut sheets then binding them into a pad and perforating the sheets.
It doesn't matter since he's still selling them at a lower price. You can literally buy more money with less money from him, and it be legal.
KauaiLongboarder To him, causing a stir is worth it.
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I like how smoothly he lets the ignorant interviewer make assumptions about it being counterfeit money that Woz prints himself. He words everything so carefully so as to not ruin the effect without claiming he did anything illegal (which he didn't). This guy is the man.
0:24 Woz: "I got him the supplies from a higher quality printer."
3:25 Dumb guy: "I just wanna be clear, you print this, this is your custom printing.."
3:29 Woz: "I have the printer make these pads for me."
That is pretty slick, I hadn't noticed that.
The Bureau of Engraving and Printing is probably a higher quality printer.
But his local print company can turn the sheets into very convenient pads which for some reason the Bureau of Engraving and Printing won't.
I think the award for quality goes to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing but the award for customer service goes to his neighborhood print shop.
His "printer" is a person, a place. The old sense of the word.
Yes, Woz buys the $2 bills from the Treasury Department in sheets, like any person can do. Then he goes to the printer (the place) who would perforate them and make notepads by gluing them together. I once bought a sheet of 4 bills (but I have no idea where I left them).
He's pranking the audience by saying that it smells the same and he took some random president. But if you search a bit, you will find Woz hilarious story when he spent his $2 bills in a casino in Las Vegas ...
I found the bills 😁
@@MarcKloos oh wow I can't believe you not only found the bills, but you updated here 4 years later. I don't remember anything I did 4 years ago. Awesome!
Yea dude thats the point
"These two $2 bills were attached to each other and perforated. You can purchase $1, $2, and now $5 bills from the Bureau of Printing and Engraving on sheets. The sheets come in sizes of 4, 16, and 32 bills each. I buy such sheets of $2 bills...
I take the sheets of 4 bills and have a printer, located through friends, gum them into pads, like stationery pads. The printer then perforates them between the bills, so that I can tear a bill or two away."
@declangrindrod
He NEVER said they were self printed. Listen to the story again. He said he used a "high quality supplier". Woz buys uncut 2$ bills from the US Treasury, there's lots of stories about him doing this. It actually costs him extra to buy the uncut bills from the Treasury, but he does it to prank people. The money is in fact legal tender, he just likes to see how people react to seeing them uncut like that.
He gets uncut sheets of real bills from the Department of Treasury and then he has a printer perforate them and make them into a pad. So they are real $2 bills, just very suspicious looking.
Is that the truth?
@@njcowboys3588 Yes. It's real money, printed by the US Government, bought in sheets, and made into pads.
A lot of places won't take $2 bills. I think they're fun so I collect them but if I try to spend them there's a lot of Little Stores that don't believe they are real. Just because they are slightly rare but I'm surprised that people haven't seen or won't take cash.
Steve Jobs had much more money but Woz has always had much more fun
Steve Wozniak is just... awesome!
It's not even leaving out part of the story. He made several comments about how his friend printed them and how suspicious they are and then most people don't seem to get the fact he was joking, unsurprisingly.
Oh my god, the interviewer thinks they're fake! That's amazing and hilarious!
@0501701 the $2 sheets are made legally and are sold as collectibles. Woz just uses his printer to perforate the sheets and bind them into pads
They're actually made from sheets of uncut $2 bills. You can buy them uncut from the Bureau of Engraving and Printing. He pays a local printer to bind and perforate them.
It's totally legal because they're not forgeries.
because the uncut $2 bank notes are bought from The Bureau of Engraving , they're real money, anyone can buy them. Then he gets the sheets bound together by a local office supplies company so they look like a pad of money that he had made, though actually they are in fact real money.
He doesn’t mention once in this video that he doesn’t print them, nor does his printer friend - he purchases these and then takes them to a printer who perforates and makes them into pads for him.
@EcoDimension no he bought uncut sheets from the BEP, available on their site
He does it as a joke, they're really like $3 each in sheet form, but it's still legal tender.
Seems like a really nice guy, like a good neighbor.
Steve doesn't print his own $2 bills. He orders uncut sheets of 2's from the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, and has his vendor perforate them and mount them into these pads. When he refers to a "higher quality printer", he's talking about the Bureau.
-jcr
I've had treasury $2 bills that were rejected by merchants who had never heard of a $2 bill! I'd love to try some of these.
Im sorry but why is jobs more famous
because life is unfair.woz literally single-handedly made the apple I and apple II .he is a real time engineer.yet he faded away in the shadow of the mighty propaganda-fueled jobs
i don't deny jobs was a genius,but the woz is a double genius jobs was.
Jobs was good at marketing, Woz was/is an engineering.
Because Woz isn't interested in being famous, he's not an overinflated douche nozzle who needs 24/7 ego stroking, he's just doing his own thing.
why is elon more famous than the workers
Who else had this video pop up after seeing him on Stevo?
😂 yea. I was looking for that 😂
The Great and Powerful Woz doesn't need money. He IS the money.
so he buys legal tender bills that are still in sheets . he takes those sheets to a person who makes them into pads with perforations...since the money was made by a real federal institution and the bills have real serial numbers ...he is just modifying legal tender to be more nerdy. those people in the audience think he's counterfeiting bills for 20 years ...and getting away with it...bc he's so good at it..but its just real money in a funny format .
You note that he doesn't put a number on the quantity of pads/sheets he sells. He just says "lots".
I don't know if this is some elaborate joke I'm not getting or Woz is just crazy.
His discount is not 37.5%--- even without the perforation and binding, the sheets are probably worth $40 or $50 bucks--- uncut, mint bills are quite expensive.
Wheres the video of the drive thru, too awesome.
@YellingSilently ACTUALLY, disregard my below post - I found an article Steve wrote about this here: woz.org/letters/general/78.html - he didn't tell the full story in the video, he made it seem like his friend printed the actual bills for him. What he actually does is buy the bills in sheet form from the Bureau of Engraving and Printing which will sell legal sheets of uncut currency, then he has a friend turn them into pads, so the bills are legal. He just left out part of the story.
He is the most brilliant troll ever. Steve Wozniak is my new hero.
It's a really obscure room, you've probably never heard of it.
I think its because in order for something to be legal tender it has to meet certain specs AND must be accepted by the person you are offering it to... also technically you can pay any debt with anything the person the debt is owed to accepts as tender like an exchange of goods kinda thing
I once saw a television show where a lady used sheets of hundred dollar bills as wrapping paper for a luxurious gift. I was kinda put off by it.
Good to see such an amazing person sticking it to the man by telling minimum wage workers how stupid they are for not knowing that he can effectively make actual currency look fake. What a hero. The world definitely needs more people like Woz.
@stayfly123 Listen to him carefully as he says "His printer makes these" not "He printed them"
What he does is buys full sheets of real $2 bills from the mint as those are sold to collectors who would frame them and gets a printing company to bind them into a book and ass perforations.
It is legal as it is real money.
I was there for this. I have one autographed. Greatest fucking day ever.
Same, but I had him sign the Engadget ticket instead. Was amazing
2:55
nope you can't use that device to leave the USA; a passport is required since the recent law change.
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3:23 - i love the subtly-nervous laughter in the background.
...you can't laugh; _that was a national tragedy._
@00sturm I would suspect that because he is not attempting to counterfeit a note in circulation.
Also, if he was accused of defrauding people by using them, he could simply identify it as barter, supported by the idea that he gave them a bill that was not in circulation which would not be commonly accepted as currency, as such the only reasonable contract of sale would be the barter of his 'notes' for their goods and or services.
No these are real banknotes, $2 bills are still made.
What he does, and he was careful to play along with the confused interviewer by nog explaining the details, is buy uncut $2 sheets from the government that's his "higher quality supplier".
He takes these to a local printing company who turns them into these pads. They're still real $2 bills which is why he can spend them.
The Secret Service has had chats with him, they have questioned him as he says here, but they're well aware they're real and they can't really stop him.
but what did he say about the high quality printer he has in his house ?
If they are real bills, he would have to "buy" each sheet for $8 each though, so what different does it make?
Thank you for the reply and info!
@mortisnoctu its a joke. He buys the pads from the treasury. They are perfectly legal. You can buy it from them also. It cost more money but he is rich so he is fine
thanks for sharing "engadget"
so you are saying the bureau of engraving just gives steve the money?
its like $20 dollars for uncut 4- $2 bills. He has them bound into a pad and perforated . So selling for 5 bucks is a total deal. He simply finds it funny using them for purchaces like coupons, or more to the joke, like he printed them . Noone perforates sheets of bills they paid 4 times their value for and uses them as cash. He is rich and it is funny. It is totally legal , just not usual or economical. You can buy 4,32 - $2 bill uncut sheets from Treasury. I do not think you can hand a sheet to cashier for groceries. But anyone who knows the cost of sheets of any bills - they would buy em for 5 or 33 bucks uncut , uncirculated quickly.
Yup. I own one and a 50 sheet of $1 bills. The US Mint website has them for sale among several other cool items.
Ok, now. When does he say it's wrong?
Why does the interviewer look like a young Wozniak?
He charges $5 for a pad worth $50. So can I buy one, then use that to buy 10 more?
Is legal to print money, but only if you pay the federal reserve by some means. Usually $1.25 on the bill or something.
It explains everything about the legality. If it's legal tender, then it's legal to use it. How's that hard?
@declangrindrod The bills are in uncut sheets from the US Treasury. His High Quality Printer (person, not machine) machines it into a memo pad and perforates on the edge of each bill. I'd buy the whole pad from him at his 37.5% discount.
The "high quality printer" he refers to is the US Mint. He has a regular print shop perforate and glue the uncut sheets he buys.
@@untziggy4 Printer, in this case, refers to the print shop that works with the uncut sheets from the Treasury. The Mint only deals with the coins.
I think he said because he uses real "stencil" plates, thus making them legal.
Why take use an ATM when you can go straight to the source
I think it's in the declaration..something like " ...and thus every man shall have the right to pay with money he printed at home...".
“I got the supplies from a higher quality printer”
You can buy sheets and have them put into a pad
@ALurkingGrue oh i see, but why sell them for a loss?
yes please someone. this is crazy
I wonder if u can deposit them into an ATM machine
3:55 they dont have to take legal tender in California???
he is so awesome, wow
If he sells 4 $2 bills for $5, then he loses $3 per sheet. I wonder how many sheets he sells every year.
Trolling muggles is so much fun, good job Woz.
Jct: If he'd put "Steve Wozniak will redeem this $2 for 12 minutes of volunteer time", he could spend them like Hours in Ithaca N.Y. Or other time-based currencies. In 1999, I paid for 39/40 nights in Europe with an IOU for a night back in Canada worth 5 Hours. So I can think that everybody would take 30 of Steve's Scrip if he signed his name on it.
On his ID and money he never lies about anything. He doesnt pretend they're something else. Also in the USA you can create your own currency.
no
so he is actually not making any money for it right? Because he is said he is selling for 5 dollars and if they are real money he is giving out more money. Actually loosing money from it.
seems to be a cool guy to kick it with. probably have a few drinks and listen to migos.
Woz is the man... I wish I could get those sheets somehow. What a pointless novelty!
Engadget used to be so good when Topolsky was around
He can afford the printer himself.
Engadget needs a new interviewer that doesn't try to talk over his guests.
They're real bills, they're just uncut.
how is printing money and spending it not counterfeiting.....
its cool that this guy does nothing but try to interrupt him
@hibernate2live Because there hasn't yet been a law passed that makes it illegal.
Good ol woz still getting in trouble :)
wtf? I don't get it . .. so those are actual bills? how can he just print em
I believe because its out of print
I just love Woz, awesome man :)
How many hipsters can you fit in a room? I guess it depends if the room is in Francisco.
Does that mean I might have a Woz $2 bill in my possession?
Oh god, he is my hero.
The interviewer looks like a young Woz.
@MrTranxistor Have you seen the movie Pirates of Silicon Valley ? Definitely recommended.
When did he say that they're the wrong president and wrong serial numbers?
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"Steve Wozniak prints his own pads of $2 bills" is totally misleading and a lie. I do not think half the people in the audience understood the joke nor do I believe the interviewer understood it was not printed by Steve. I didn't understand until someone explained in comments and I rewatched the video.
That someone of his stature thinks that just because someone may be in right that they can't convicted is surprising.
Umm the printer is 3800 dollars
He buy the bills and then puts them into sheets
@Tufflaw The adhesive of the story.
Holy shit. I'm from the same town as this guy...You can tell it's rich and white by the way he says "Los Gatos"
It costs less than $5 to make these sheets... So he's still profiting in pure money from selling these sheets rather than spending his fake money on items/objects (food, gum, pop, etc)
I think you could do it without doing anything illegal
Is this still going on? Can I still get a few and are they still legit?
Can I use them at the apple shop