Destiny - The Original Story
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- Опубликовано: 22 янв 2025
- Destiny's original intended story by Joseph Staten and his team is fascinating to me and I love talking about it. Destiny has always been intriguing and this video goes over some interesting details. #destinystory #destiny2 #destiny
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Hope you guys enjoyed this one. What do you guys think about the original story for Destiny?
I wish I could literally just play the orignal story for the game. The rewrite was shite in my opinion. We have lost all the connections with the initial game plot: the traveler. What purpose does it even serve now? It's very questionable in D2 as well and it's frustrating that they're more focused on sidequests rather than the main plot itself. The story for Destiny feels like a tree without the trunk. I wish I could playtest the original story myself and see how "linear" it really was.
If you think about it, Bungie's most successful franchise, Halo, was linear in that sense too. It's a story about the chief and his mission to save humanity, but with complexities that really immerse you into the game and make you feel apart of the world. You play as chief for one mission, and Arbiter for another. I thought that was really cool to just flip sides and see from a different perspective. You felt a real connection with the characters that you don't really get in Destiny. One thing I find that has honestly saved this game from its demise is the music. Honest to God, Marty O'Donnell is one of the greatest things, along with Staten, that has helped Destiny stay above the water.
You knoe the only mission I remember your Guardian speaking in was the first mission too; "Will it fly?" .We needed more dialogue in this game that I feel would have been there had we got the original story. It would've helped immensely to build a connection with your Guardian that presently doesn't exist at all. I'm not sure what Bungie can do to fix their game... Destiny 2 in my eyes was a real disappointment as to what could have followed on from Destiny 1. Anti-climactic boss battle, another side quest of a raid and more DLC missions that feel, again, like they're side stories and not innately linked to the main trunk of the game. They need to bring it back to the traveler and try and bring back some of the intrinsic plot that would have really thickened the franchise of Destiny and brought to life the characters and story. The music to this game though is something that remains intact and pure. Honestly a treasure to listen to these scores. Some of the best soundtracks gaming has ever seen and that's fact.
Hey man im curious if you think now that the new expansion is out and they are showing the crow differently if they are leaning towards the original story again.
@@haandawg My friend, let me tell you about how they tried to turn Destiny into a seasonal TV show...
@@anusmcgee4150 really???!
@@anusmcgee4150 I dropped the game when they started that shit
Nothing will ever capture the magic of D1. That music brings me right back to the tower
Oh Marty that beautiful bastard
@@pluradox don't call the bro Marty a bastard man
Agreed. Destiny 2 is good, but it can't even come close to Destiny's magical feeling and vibe. I've never experienced anything like it.
Right into the trailers loving embrace
Almost 10 years later and I’m still on this journey to find out what truly happened in the original story of this game I just hope that something will be revealed in the years to come like the old story boards to Halo 2 a few years ago
bdobbins did a good video based on the articles that jason schier wrote about the making of destiny and where it went wrong
The original concept art was very dark and depressing. The black garden was in the traviller and the vet came from inside of him. It also was a lot more sci fi rather than fantasy. Everything had a rational explanation.
oh what lmao
but dude the concept art is just so.. perfect and SO INCREDIBLY intriguing in every way. Always gets me thinking lmao
Haha. They didn't like it because it was "too linear". So instead we get an entirely incoherent story, lacking in any real narrative and depth. Cool, cool. Good job with the rewrites guys. Should've just left Joseph Statons story alone. He's actually a pretty damn good author and had a lot of influence on the Halo trilogies story.
totally agree
Nah I prefer this one look how much lore there is now
Who's to say half if not all this lore wasn't already written? They just had to scrap the original game and couldn't put any of it in until they figured out what kind of game they wanted to make.
@@thelatenightgamer2624 who the fuck wants lore when they didn't even have foundations? That's like like having a pizza but it comes without the base.
Hanibalistic27 Well, they kinda did. Established the Guardians And Ghosts And all that as well as what was considered allied with the Darkness or whatever being the main four races. There are some foundations, even though admittedly there was a wait before the game really started picking up.
Hearing Charlemagne's name, man, it's been a while. Remember back in Destiny 1 when there were more Warminds than just Rasputin, but then they retconned it later?
Such a missed opportunity with this story. It sounded so interesting
Right! This honestly sounds so much cooler than the lack luster version of Destiny that we got upon it's release
We might be getting this story back with the next 3 expansions.
@@AxisChurchDevotee not exactly the way its suppose to be told tho
@@AxisChurchDevotee “but I want it NOW”
Your views of Destiny are aligned with mine. I could'nt agree more.
I really hope someday we will get to see that supercut!
you and me both!
Question. where has the supercut information been stored? Or has it not been stored, but rather in memory of developers with an NDA? Or is it a functional demo stored away?
IXI Warlock IXI I imagine that bits and pieces still exist within hard drives at bungies studio
IXI Warlock IXI but mostly all this information is straight from devs who have spoken about it anonymously to a few journalists who reported on it
You know i hope they pull a destiny 2 not cannon and start d3 last franshise
So they rejected the original story for being too linear, and replaced it with a story that's also too linear. Brilliant logic, Bungie.
You know what I've been thinking lately? We might face the darkness defeat it, but realize that the Traveler is just as bad as the Darkness... They might reuse Uldren as the Crow now that he's a guardian. Just a thought that popped into my head. Reusing the elements of the old to finish up what the story we got. Plus the exo that was controled by a Warmind idea- it seems that Fellwinter is the 'son' of Rasputin. At least if this season's leaks are to be believed... But we'll see :D
Milos Radmilac hey! I’ve had the same thoughts. Bungie has stated in the past that they haven’t completely abandoned the original story, and simply wanted to start from a different point and get there eventually. So having Uldren become the ‘Crow’ and having Cayde’s personality as the new Hunter vanguard doesn’t seem too far fetched to me. There also seems to be a connection between Osiris and his assistant, ‘The Stranger’, as he calls Sagira ‘Little Light’, the same nickname The Stranger uses for our ghost. Mara Sov was described originally as a ‘pirate queen’ character by her voice actress, and I can see her slowly becoming that, ever since The Taken King. We’ll see!
Seems like you were right since we're now using darkness subclasses so they might reuse elements from the original storyline.
I agree, really no driving reason to play D2 besides the fact that its built around FOMO (fear of missing out). D1 was actually exciting, mysterious, and fun to play
Exactly. Fomo by itself isn't enough. There needs to be real quality content
Destiny 2 wasn’t mysterious and that was my #1 problem with it. Everything was laid out in front of you. Instead of having the secrets and surprises destiny 1 had
Kyrelian Agreed
@@dionpierre5847 Right? For me it was the music that always sucked me back in. So many questions unanswered, but hinted through those god-awful grimoire cards. The story was so damn cool and sadly cut away
Yup no-one seems to talk about that D2 is totally FOMO-based
From everything I've seen so far, I think this is what the story will actually BECOME. The exo stranger is returning, the darkness doesn't seem that bad and the speaker is dead. I think this is the best possible continuation of Destiny's story.
Nope sadly not
Ur right my guy they are literally doing this story ofc with some mods to it I prefer the story we got simply because I don't like the traveler being the bad guy
even more now lmao
@@doomguy.23frommars60 we don't know that yet for sure. There is a lot of weird things still
Jesus christ this aged poorly, they fucked it up so hard
Joseph Saten’s story was iconic and it would’ve been more in depth. You definitely would’ve had to wait longer for content drops… gotten books delving even deeper into the lore and the witnesses wouldn’t have existed.
Joseph gives you stories that are rich and complex in the way that it is structured because he cares about the depth of the character and the world.
Can’t wait to see what he does with Netflix Games.
Once again I wholeheartedly agree. @ 4:00 I think it's Mara Sov on the other line. It's a bit complex but basically my theory is the encounter with the Exo Stranger was orchestrated by a future Mara Sov to ensure we meet her in our timeline. After this cutscene we meet none other than Mara Sov for the very first time, coincidence? I don't think so especially when you consider the blatant hint that straight up tells us that they have an alliance in Mara's final Dreaming City cutscene. In lore Mara was compared to Savathûn as her foil and a worthy rival to her. Orchestrating events across multiple timelines as if she's playing multidimensional, interstellar, cosmic chess with Savathûn sounds right up her ally. Infact that analogy has been no joke used to describe Savathûn and Mara Sov's beef in lore.
no way, that's actually freakin awesome! i'll have to read up on that. that's pretty mind blowing tbh. man destiny lore is just something else, so incredible.
@@NovemberHotel Soo true man.
They really should have delivered with this story. Now I wanna play it but I know that will never happen. One of the reasons why I love this game. Pieces of the story is here. And this music is just beautiful. It's a shame we'll never get this story. The story we got still left me liking it though, the mystery it had. I much prefer it than Destiny 2.
We might be getting it back.
@@AxisChurchDevotee Eh. In D2? Not exactly good. It's not gonna play out well. Considering the state of that game. The game is a mess and the story is basically gone. A DESTINY Remake is needed at this point.
This makes me tear up man. I love Destiny 1 so much. Nothing like it. Thank you for this video
glad you enjoyed the video! definitely an incredible game
You know i hope they pull a destiny 2 not cannon and start d3 last franshise
@@xxxxanaxxxx683 fr lmao
Its only nostalgia my guy. Destiny 1 was an unfinished heap of garbage.
I’m hoping you blow up here on RUclips. This is a great video man.
Thanks man, that means a lot
Every enemy race in destiny 1 felt unique. In destiny 2 everything just blends together. Not just the enemy races.
fr unfortunately
Thats because the higher up at Bungie didn't see a 24/7 hour money stream/flow from an old fashion campaign anymore. They knew, the next era of business was live service model so scrapped all of Joseph Staten's years of hard work and stitched pieces of it together to dump you into microtransaction hell for years to come. These AAA studios don't give a fuck about the casual player base anymore. They only care about the pro esports players and the online live stream/RUclips content creator community that promotes their games for free. These content creators can do this because they get paid for it. Thats why.
I think beyond Light witch queen and lightfall will incorporate the original storyline.
Most people do not see destiny as i do. The story you mentioned sounded really cool yes but, i like destiny it as it is now. I have been playing since release in 2014 and the game soon became my favorite game and has been an escape for me since then. The story may have some untapped potential but still, im loving the game and have loved it through all it ups and downs. Especially since shadowkeep came out. For a lore nerd like me seeing that pyramid ship made me the most excited i have ever been. Im sticking with destiny until the servers get shut down for the last time, the story is an amzing one, at least i think so
I couldn't agree more with everything you said. It would be really cool to play the orginal store, but I still really love both Destiny 1 and 2 as they are now. These two games are so special and imprant to me. I know this is probably an un popular opinion, but I would say they are my favorite games of all time.
Destiny has no story its just full of nonsense and gobbledegook
@@purefoldnz3070 then why are you here? and this past year the story has become even better than it was
@@antictheidiot1594 "story" lol.
@@purefoldnz3070 ahh ok
Looking back on Destiny 1, I think that complaint from Bungie's higher-ups, mainly Jason Jones, of Joseph Staten's story for Destiny being too liner comes from the fact that Bungie wanted Destiny to revisit the open-world/open-ended design of the Pre-Xbox version of Halo 1. As they did not to repeat the same linear campaign format they did successfully with Halo 1-Reach, as they were burnt out with Halo and wanted Destiny to be completely different from the Bungie games that came before.
Story-wise, Joseph Staten's original story for Destiny 1 is basically a refined version of the Arbiter story from Halo 2 where you play as a character taking orders from a religious leader (The Speaker = Prophet of Truth) only to find out both their religion is a lie and the very thing they worship is a galaxy-destroying superweapon (Traveler = Halo rings). Thus the player character has to renounce all their beliefs and take the lead (exactly like what the Arbiter did with the Eiltes in the Covenant's Great Schism) to stop the activation of said galaxy-destroying superweapon. Jason Jones and Bungie's higher-ups might have feared it would have made Destiny repeat the similar criticisms of Halo 2's campaign levels being too liner with not enough open-level designs like in Halo 1 or Halo 3, as Bungie was still largely unhappy with how Halo 2 turned out.
While I still think Bungie's higher-ups and Jason Jones' complaints about Joseph Staten's original story for Destiny being too liner were overreacted and overcorrected as Bungie's strength was making huge levels that feel open-ended while being linear story-based games, not open world games. Just look at how Halo 3: ODST levels in its open world are structured to be played in a linear matter, not out of order. Giving the player too much freedom and not leaving room to design set pieces for unique encounters that can only come from a linear story like the Warthog runs or big vehicle battles make for a very boring game, which is sadly what happened with Halo Infinite's campaign and Bungie's two Destiny games.
Destiny 2 can never replace the first one. Something about it is so good, something about it is nostalgic and magical
Destiny without marty o donnel just feels like a game we weren't meant to play.
👏I’m glad this was on my recommended. Great video.We can only hope that this franchise continues its legacy and keeps its original,unique features,and interesting content along the way from D1 forward.🪐
Nice pfp
I think I might do something with these ideas, and themes.
When will someone from Bungie finally give us some closure on the original story?
For a time, I believe Destiny 1 held the Guinness book of world records for the most recorded lines for a video game. Over 1k lines. We only heard a fraction of them. Such an unfortunate result. What we got was a Frankenstein mess of what was originally planned. We're living in the alternate universe; the wrong one sadly...
I found your videos a couple days ago and I have to say I agree with EVERY single word and opinion so far.
I'm pretty sure ghosts were originally meant to be literal ghosts. Like humans that the traveler killed and turned into ghosts. This was part of the original 2013 story and there are many references to this in the vanilla game like ur ghost being recognized as a person/scientist by a terminal on Venus. The traveler devastated us to save itself. I hope they still go this route.
Please keep making these og D1 videos
"The brightest light creates to darkest shadow" would have been a perfect summarization of the original scrip story
This would be cool to play. Even just a spin-off would be really cool to try it out.
Gotta agree with you there.
Spin off yeah but not main story
They could probably even write it off as an AU if they wanted
In a 2013 interview at E3 joe was asked what the purpose of that wall was, was it to keep something out? And joe replied “yea or keep something in” ! What if the traveler was evil ?? Plot twist
Yeah. The original D1’s story sounds pretty cool and I wish we got to see it. Maybe if we get a Destiny 1 reboot later on down the line for whatever reason.
i really wish if they could do like a remastered d1 with the cut story since they aren’t with Activision anymore and release it on pc and stuff
When you realize that a warlock armor set in Destiny 2 is a armor set from before the original game was reworked entirely.
To anyone that's watching this currently (2022):
Paying close attention not only to the seasonal storylines, but also the overarching plot of D2 throughout Witch Queen, there's an argument to be made that Bungie has an opportunity to steer the game's current narrative closer and closer to the original plotline of Destiny 1. I most definitely have my doubts about the traveler's true intentions, and with the revelations about the hive's origins, how the darkness factors into those origins, along with the recontextualization of D1 raids with hindsight, I believe that as of now this is the greatest case for Bungie to tie in everything that's already happened together into a culmination that feeds right back into the original plotline.
Granted, there are going to be differences. It's not reasonable to think that Bungie can just oust themselves from any narrative corners or make a perfect attempt at retconning or backtracking on stories it's already told. Even if they were to do so, I would definitely be hyper-critical and disappointed.
With that being said, the groundwork has been laid out. Crow is in the game now, as a guardian and not as Prince Uldren. Ana Bray already took a copy of Rasputin and inserted it into an exo frame. Elsie Bray is already in game. Thanks to the drifter, questions about the traveler's true intentions and goals have pervaded the game for nearly 3 years at this point; driven even harder by Witch Queen's revelations.
On a side note: It wouldn't surprise me if after or during The Final Shape, Humanity is finally driven out of Sol, and we gain the opportunity to start retaking worlds from the Witness, most notable Torobatl; the Cabal home world.
LOL Bungie just killed off Rasputin
I think they're starting to use V1 Script of Destiny 1 but now they are implementing into D2 Lightfall. Why you may ask well what I've seen on reddit is ana bray might put Rasputin in an exo to save him plus Uldren becoming the crow is already in effect.
This is my very long idea of what exactly Joseph Staten had been writing to begin with. You were a veteran Guardian serving the city’s supposed “cause” of protecting and saving the last of humanity, further swayed into believing the role you were given by the traveler, from the speaker. You would believe this lie until you were brought out of the waters by The Crow, who leads a secret guardian defect group that knew something was deeply wrong with the government running this refuge for humanity. He takes you and convinces you to help their plight. Supposedly this group comprised The Crow, the Exo stranger/Elsie Bray, and a few ghostless guardians. You basically were put in a position to reject your lying civilization to support the cause of a new one, even if it meant facing the alien ridden wilds. Osiris wasn’t crazy in this context. The city muddled his image when he perhaps likely stumbled upon connections that lead him to his accusations of the traveler. You gain allies like the queen and her fallen, as well as Rasputin to assist in launching an assault against the city and infiltrating the inside of the Traveler. The Black Garden was obviously meant to be the interior of the machine god, and you destroying the heart was part of the process. It makes sense now why ghost asks you “think you can kill a god?” It would’ve been a story about deception, societal brainwashing, censorship and the means to break away from that to forge your own path. To make one’s own “Destiny.” It’s also possible that the Traveler was a Vex device designed to accelerate the rise and falls of numerous races of life across the galaxy. Suggesting they were the true enemies of it all. The fallen and cabal were victims looking for revenge or reclamation. The hive were likely just a race that came to believe in the darkness but didn’t think the traveler was associated with the light. The super weapon they were working with, that likely was a shard of the traveler from that one mission. And the Vex were the truly omnipresent ones who set up everything.
Look up the staten cut remnants on RUclips. The guy has managed to somewhat piece together the original story through old material. Watch the video and read the description for more in-depth explanation. A lot of it aligns with the play tester and it’s pretty interesting
@@Ben-zg8xk Hey thank you! Can you share a link or a title of it so I can find it? And thank you for reading that much text over something that doesn’t exist anymore lol. Those were just my thoughts on the subtext, thematic ideas and implications of the original story that Staten was intending. It was definitely a little darker than what we all got when looking deeper into it I’d say.
@@j25903 ruclips.net/video/IvulMid1QVU/видео.html
@@j25903 tried linking it but got deleted. Look up The “Staten Cut” remnants by myrzir
Underrated video
5:00 Destiny 2 ignored much of the lore that people subscribed to in D1. Never forget that Bungie tried hiding behind the cry of sexism when people called out the Curse of Osiris director for claiming the grimoire lore didn’t matter in the face of her (bad) story.
I see you everywhere.
If D1 launched with the original story it could have been one of the best games of all time
Possibly been considered on par with Halo.
I’ve been playing this game since the D1 Alpha and have never seen this. Turns out in its own way the traveler did create the Witness and what we know as the “darkness”. I find it interesting that even to this day while in the Tower for IB Saladin repeats the random line “What if the traveler isn’t what we thought it was?”. I think there’s reason to believe this is still true.
I'm still hoping that bungie chose to wait longer for the plot twist so it will be more impactfull. Crossing my fingers it still comes. Because if it comes now it would be legendary because no one is expecting it. Maybe the last destiny 2 dlc will start hinting at it and we will get the reveal in destiny 3.
The final shape is planned to be last peice of the puzzle for the light and darkness saga
I hope this will be the Beyond Light’s plot.
The first raid btw, was supposed to be Crota's end and Kings Fall combined, where at the end, we would save rasputin, who would help us potentially defeat the traveler.
yes i have a video covering that backstory! it's called "The Destiny Raid We Never Got"
@@NovemberHotel dope, I'ma have to watch it
The traviler took over earth tech making the vex and they worshipped him and the black garden is inside the traviller. Also the hive as main villains would have been awesome.
You guys remember when you stayed next to brother vance what he said about the speaker? "Ask yourself, what would you do if it was proven the Speaker was a charlatan?" I think this was a hint for something bigger. Man i loved destiny... also the planets and level designs of it. Hate the fact that they changed the story...also I stopped playing destiny 2 because it was just about the money and nothing special anymore...
I love it. Thank you man. Great video. You got my attention.
Glad to hear it!
Thanks for making this vid. Good to see people still interested in the cut- story! Hopefully one day we can see what destiny could’ve been. Subbed!
I hope so too! It’s so intriguing. Thanks for subbing!
I play Destiny and have done since Beta. But I hate the story and the direction it has gone. There is no sense of jeopardy, tension, war…it is all a cartoon in space. I wish we could have had the original story and writers still. There was such better atmosphere in D1 and I would love to have seen the original
I loved destiny 1, stopped playing d2 because it was just a cash grab that spat on all of the mystery. If I kept playing d2 I would have spent over $200 on content dlc alone
Couldn't agree more
It’s be cool if in beyond light, it turns out that we were the people the exo stranger was talking to, so basically she would be talking to the future us through voice comms and the past us in person
whats the music @2:57? someone pls let me know. its soooo beautiful
Alright starting a new game of d1. Great missions great story. Let’s Go!
Destiny 1 went from being full of story and cutscenes to having 2 cutscenes and no story.
Now Destiny is just a marvel movie.
I had always made up my own head cannon that the traveler was a liar, something that discovered new targets for the darkness. And that was why my guardians only used solar.
dude, same. I'll never forget the awesome lore, atmosphere, and mystery of D1. Entering the Vault of Glass for the first time, KIngsfall, the mystery of rasputin, and even the wickedly bizare concepts like Siva, Throne-worlds, and worm gods. It was honestly something badass and beautiful that I found on par with games like Shadow of the Colossus and Mass-Effect. I quit playing d-2 shortly after it's release because it just felt like a wild ride was turned into a soulless watered down mass-production marvel movie of it's former self. It's a shame really
Bruh D2 has all of that and more but ofc nostalgia and all that
What’s that cut crow cutscene called I can’t find it anywhere I want to watch it
Can you do a Recap of the basic story of destiny 2 before any dlc
TL:DR
D1 story: okay
D2 story: incoherent mess(for new and returning players)
Taken King will always be my favourite era in Destiny, Rise of Iron is a close second. That feeling when you first encounter Oryx and the Taken on Phobos, first landing on and exploring The Dreadnought. The place felt HUGE and there was so much to explore, the story, while fairly linear and predictable, was still great. The soundtrack was amazing as well. Bow To No One during the initial trailer, Regicide while fighting Oryx, and forging your own sword from the remains of his felt amazing. Farming the hadium flakes was a little tedious sure, but the reward was worth it since the swords were unique and powerful in their own ways. I never did the raid much since I had no friends to play with, but the few times I did, I had a blast.
I think the problem with Destiny 2's story is so much of it is cut out and in chunks, most of the DLC's are there(for now at least) and they introduce more story elements/missions in the seasons, this would be fine if all the season story content was available. "Newer player and missed out on a prior DLCs launch seasons? Sorry! have fun piecing together a story with only half of it!"
I know theres a timeline node in the directory with a brief rundown of a seasons specific story, but its hard, for me at least, to feel invested in a story if I only know part of it. I took a break for awhile after Forsaken and came back at the start of Witch Queen, bought the DLC's I missed and played through them in order. Some of the dialogue would reference thing's that other characters or even the Guardian we play have done before, it felt like there were gaps of story I was missing and I felt kinda lost. I had already played through The Red War, Curse of Osiris, Warmind and Forsaken so I knew the story already, but for a new player? I can't imagine how confusing it is.
Destiny 1's story left much to be desired, but at least it's still there for anyone to pick up and play at anytime
God I remember watching Bdobbins talk about this back in 2014 i honestly liked it and then I played it and I saw all that I lost I'm sad
Despite the campaign being kinda trash, D1's lore had a certain mystique and grandeur that kept everything grounded. Like as far as we knew, the hive homeworld was on the other side of an entire galaxy that they had conquered, and the worm gods were content to just chill at the bottom of their ocean while we struggled hopelessly like the countless other races the traveler had attempted to uplift in the past. Then in D2 one is just chilling on mars for some reason? and we kill it in a lame story mission? Many similar letdowns with rasputin, osiris etc.
Would be very interesting to see what it would have been
This video deserves more views!
Thanks man!
Honestly, I feel like the story of Destiny 1 as is was moreso about establishing the enemy races and some of what they can do as well as with the Guardians And stuff than really trying to tell a story. Not saying that it necessarily worked or didn’t work, I honestly didn’t mind vanilla Destiny 1 all that much, but that’s just what I thought.
I would live to play this too, just the only thing is that Cayde would be Uldron.
I think that a joe statem driven destiny would have been insanely easy to follow compared to modern destiny.
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but knowing what came later, I'm actually glad D1's vanilla campaign was quick bite-sized windows into each facet of the lore, locations, and enemies. If you played from the start and didn't know what it would become, I can definitely see it being frustrating. But if you got into it a bit later, D1 vanilla is actually a nice gentle introduction to everything, and the world of Destiny would seem fairly impenetrable without it.
They did the same thing to a game called spore it went from realistic to more kid like and they took a stage of evolution out
I totally agree. Destiny 2 can never live up to vanilla Destiny. Don't get me wrong the final shape was amazing but vanilla Destiny brings a feeling of adventure and mystery from the lore, locations, and story. If I'm being honest here I agree as well that Destiny really ended for me after Rise of Iron. In fact I still play vanilla Destiny from time to time and you still find people to play with you just got to hang out at the tower. But I've would of loved to have played the original Staten cut of Destiny. Given to what has happened at Bungie these past few days makes wonder what kind of Destiny we would have today if they had different upper management that actually cared about Destiny and its people. Well one can dream right. I hope you all are doing well my fellow guardians.
Per Audacia Ad Astra. **( ^ )**
This explains why there were pieces of a warmind in the Oryx final mission room. lol they just decided to leave it in the game..
Need to know who decided to fuck with Staten’s work so I can give them a piece of my fucking mind.
The higher-ups at Bungie said it's "too linear" so blame them. They are the reason for Destiny's shitty story. I like at least part of the story.
I'm sorry Joseph Staten.
destiny is a monument to squandered potential
isn't destiny's 2 story now just going copying Joseph's original story? Even D1 concept art had the Pyramid ships
Idk, i feel like the story got good now, especially after witch queen.
Making D2 was a mistake...They should have just continued adding DLC
That’s gonna ruin D1 in being no better than D2 :V
Meh idk I like my class abilities and mantling over ledges😂
For real though, it would’ve been cool to see what could have been if Bungie stuck with D1 for all of this time, but I think they would’ve made D2 when the current gen dropped. Let’s also not forget a good chunk of the player base plays on PC these days.
Imagine telling the guy who wrote Halo's story that his work was too linear. Activision really fuck everything they touch.
*bungie
@@yotengoman5413 Think the original idea was Joseph Staten's
@@jamiedude1050 yes staten wrote the story but it was the bungie execs that said no, not activision.
@@doktorfriday That makes it even worse
Excellent video. Couldn’t agree more. I would have LOVED the original story for Destiny. Since forsaken, and it going free to play with all these “seasons” it’s become so messy and has problems with connections and goodness knows what else. I was such a big Destiny player (it’s what I got an Xbox one to play) I was not a fan of Destiny 2. It got a little better but not much. After Forsaken I just stopped playing. I log on (if it lets me) and play crucible now and again, but the new model, and the hard push into MMORPG due to the streamers and RUclipsrs demanding it with all its numbers and stats and gobbledygook .. it’s just lost me.
Agreed
It’s still such a shame Activision was involved at all, Bungie had worked on this game for so long, even advertising it in Halle 3 ODST on little posters(which aren’t in the MCC version) so they had been working on it for so long. It had so much love and care put into it, and all the cutscenes and the length of it all actually seemed amazing….compared to the atrocity we got, which was amazing to play, but it’s story for years was basically non-existent and garbage. Hell it’s taken until The Witch Queen to really do anything that seems like true progression in the story. It actually felt well made, so did the Taken King, but I’m talking D2. It did nothing for years…Forsaken was good but all it did was kill a beloved character and then do some shit with species vaguely mentioned and just go “that’s cool right? You like this?”
Again it was the gameplay that saved it, the story while good, didn’t have depth. That’s always been my complaint with Destiny.
I’d give anything to at the very least see a playthrough with all the cutscenes or even just the full script and storyboards, something of what we were meant to get. Like the whole Halo 2 thing, which always leads me to…what would Halo 3 have been had we got the Halo 2 we all wanted?
I Wana play 100% of the lore pre city is dope o I want it to be a bit darker and my warlock to fly
Wait- if the darkness is a spawn of the traveler. How the fuck did the traveler get damaged and other things like how did our characters get our powers i mean do our ghosts betray us? How would this all have worked
I don't know if i would have liked that version of the story. Knowing that the game would have gone on for more years it was too complex and overall i liked the approach of a "general introduction to the universe and the lore". It's what made me want to play the game in the years to come.
That’s a good point. The way they went with it served for more longevity.
This why I feel AAA studios like Bungie need to release their game in early access so the entire community can see what they have so far. If they did that with Destiny 1 and then the overhaul happened. I think alot of people would have been pissed and it would a lot more obvious of what happened. It all just feels like a huge predatory scam off of loyal Halo audience Bungie created for years.
To be honest, I still find the ‘twist’ that the Traveler is evil to be really predictable and boring. I would much prefer if they just played it straight with the Traveler and it’s alignment as a benevolent being and I hope they don’t change it to make the Traveler a secretly evil one. I’m still on the fence with the “walk between the dark and light” plot thread that first started in Forsaken. I feel like that’s been one all too much in the current ‘era’ of storytelling. I’d prefer if they actually kept it more black and white with the Darkness being a wholly corrupting force, like it seemed to be in the D1 lore. But I guess we’ll see where things go.
I’m sorry but there’s no way it was easier to completely scrap and remake the story, then it was to slightly tweak and make the story a little less linear
My thoughts exactly, but apparently the original story had us going to all the different planets within the first hour of the game and some other characters stories were wrapped up to quick like the traveler being evil and Osiris being our mentor and stuff. Jason Jones just said, "too linear and needs a complete overhaul to be the open-ended experience I dreamed it'd be"
@@NovemberHotel honestly i can kind of understand why they the bungie higher ups would think that, but i seriously cannot wrap my head around the decision, it blows my mind that they thought this story would benefit the game above the original. the original story itself didn’t seem anything super amazing, but the world it built and the world building it would’ve had, would’ve been honestly probably one of if not the best ever created. also the scale of the last third of the game especially given what the raid would’ve been would’ve been the most mind blowing thing
If destiny 1 was on PC I’ll be playing that instead tbh
Honestly. I like the current state of the story now better than if they'd gone down this path. I'm glad the Traveler wasn't tricking us, that it truly is a manifestation of the light the way the pyramids are of the darkness.
What's wrong with a linear story?
Especially seeing how Destiny 2 is now super linear, like a marvel movie. Bungie only has Staten's story to rely on.
Bruh the story sounds so bad ass
Lol did they really complain that it was too linear? 😂😂
Destiny one story was a straight railroad
Destiny 2 feels like to much of a power fantasy. I don't want to feel like a God.
I like destiny when it shows its scale. When we are small and it is big. When our enemy and this place is beyond our comprehension. Hence why I love vog
Carson Beach To be fair, by the time of Destiny 2, we’ve taken out a good chunk of all the respective factions’ troops. Even with losing our light and getting it back(which didn’t have that much of an effect in the long run). So it’s only fitting that those enemies aren’t as much of an issue for us anymore, though it is kinda boring tearing through boss fights like nothing in Strikes now.
I'm so glad it was changed the new story is so epic
Interesting. Someone who likes vanilla D1 as is.
@@superlombax1561 yep
The traveler being evil is confirmed not true
After Joseph Staten left Bungie was doomed
Don’t forget bungie was even more doomed when they fired Marty O’Donnell.
supposedly, bungie is trying to take elements from the original narrative (most obviously exo rasputin) and bring them into the current game
I think that the real tyrant here was activision. Now that is gone they resurrected Uldren as the Crow. So who knows maybe they will pick up and take the game to a better story. Hell I like what they did with Shaw the hunter in the cosmodrome.
Indeed. If we remove D2 I can say I love the Destiny universe!