I kept scrolling and scrolling and was wondering where Wuwa was! I've seen so many Wuwa players who wished that Genshin would die. They constantly insult Genshin players, so it's just karma at this point. The Wuwa fanbase has actively deterred me from playing and spending money in that game, due to constantly acting like they are superior to every other game.
It's alright. The game has optimization issues anyway. Wuwa people forgot there are players with weak hardware and low skill. Something Genshin caters to successfully. Not everyone has a pc or likes to play on one. And the dodge-parry style isn't fit for casuals (I'm not saying you're one lol). Pair that with optimization issues and ta dah. Good luck to Kuro trying to get that audience to play their skill-based game.
> Genshin killer > males don't sell well, wait for Yinlin > the sales were bugged, wait for Changli > $30m is actually good for Kuro, so what if our two most hyped banners can't beat Genshin/HSR in dead patches? > ZheZhi isn't hype and this was a dead patch, game is fine > Shorekeeper is barely an upgrade over Verina so people aren't pulling > "I think it's OK as long as we survive, right" > at least dEvs LiSTeNed even though WuWa has the worst story out of any mainstream gacha, the worst music, the worst writing, and the worst voice acting > I'm glad WuWa is as niche as PGR, just shows that Kuro only cares for their players and not profits > Camellya will save WuWa And on and on. Just accept that WuWa is more of a ToF competitor than any of the top gacha games, or continue to get clowned on.
@@aorusuki2374 ahh of course. But I feel bad shoving that copious take in their face when the game is already one foot in the grave. To truly defeat an opponent you must first give them a semblance of hope - Ghandi
@@looots1320 I did forget the PC sales argument, which has been debunked by Bilibili's version of SensorTower (I've made my status as a screenshot of the source because YT doesn't permit external links). As anyone can see, PC sales make up about 62.5% of WuWa's revenues, whereas it's 66.7% for Genshin. Keep in mind that these percentages are PC/Other, so for Genshin, 'Other' would include console sales. Therefore, WuWa's PC ratio would presumably fall even further when the game is released on the PS5. WuWa glazers simply underestimate just how much mobile gaming dominates in Asia. Have to remember that Global also encompasses Korea, Japan, India, and all of Southeast Asia. Also, certain mobile app stores, like Samsung Galaxy, not only offer exclusive discounts but also allow for more niche payment options like paying at a convenience store. So even PC players may still opt to spend on mobile. I’d conclude that, like SensorTower, these are just well-informed estimates based on a combination of publicly available proxy data and proprietary sources. But that doesn't make it useless as the core methodology will remain fixed over time, which lends to meaningful trend analysis. So, while the exact percentages might not be accurate, the relationship between one game to another is. And any educated estimate is infinitely more credible than a random person's 'feelings'.
It's pretty commendable that WuWa is genuinely embracing the Kuro CEO's philosophy: "I think it's OK as long as the game survives." Judging by these numbers, it seems that players are embracing this view as well. I have no idea why people were ever hyping up this quote. It just reads like a lack of ambition masked as a corporate gesture of goodwill. Do WuWa players seriously believe that Kuro is some benevolent entity? They're a for-profit company that thrives on exploiting gambling tendencies lmao.
Let me guess, when you go to the store, one tries everything to scam you as much as possible, while the other has reasonable prices, and you’ll still say, "Yeah, the scam store is the best." After all, nothing screams "we care about you" like preying on gambling tendencies for profit, just like a certain company, right? And God forbid we actually praise the company that's clearly doing a better job.
@@anthonylt3548 "Clearly doing a better job". I think you're not adult, because In business perspective "clearly doing a better job" means "making a lot of profit" Wuwa is doing worse and worse...
@@Dubstep_Gun Ah, you got me. With your talent, you must be someone important, right? Are you a CEO or something? Did it ever occur to you that when I mentioned predatory practices, I wasn’t talking about profit? I was referring to the player experience. I’m a customer-I care about what good the company does for me, not how much money the company makes. But of course, you don’t care about that, do you? You only care about which gacha company can squeeze the most money out of its players.
Honestly, some of Wuwa's player base are those Genshin F2p who want to boycott genshin because of rewards issue, something they never deserve in the first place because they don't buy anything. So i am not really surprised. They should help wuwa by buying something tho. Wuwa is a good game. Genshin and Wuwa had a different approach to their game which consumers immediately noticed. Genshin feels fresh. Genshin want for their consumer to build different ways of playing one character using the game mechanics. The playstyle change depending on the artifact, items, team composition, elemental reaction and certain skill condition of a character like the animation duration, , range, CD, effects and condition (ex: bounce, burn application etc..., knockback, stagger, pull animation, freeze debuff, buffs etc...). Character with a long animation can lead to a time loss or it can be a great deal. Example: we can play Raiden Shogun as a hyper carry or Hyperbloom EM team with her omni range skill or she could be in a National team or Overload or mixed and so on... And this apply to almost every character but it is not the same. Fischl is considered better than Yae Miko because her animation require her to stay on field longer than fischl. Yae Miko's damage is higher. Yae Miko is a good character it is just in a certain type of playstyle, Fischl quick rotation as a sub DPS is better. Yae miko tho can easily outrank fischl in terms of DPS. Both great characters that has similarities but different. Not every character can parry. Beido can parry and throw a counter. Her counter damage increase base on her parry time precision. Yun Jin and Candice parry is meant for protection and energy regeneration. Not every character can fly. Xianyun, wanderer and some other characters has the ability that allows them. While some can climb like vertically almost upside down like Kirara, or just teleport with Keqing or chiori etc.... I prefer using the world mechanic tho and play my favorite team. There is Hu Tao normal attack build, CA vape, Burst build with Ayaka or Mona or furina etc... or spice it with a plunge build with Xianyun. C0 Hu Tao requires a bit of skill with the jump cancel animation. we became techy Archers? There is a homing archers, exploding archer, Melt archer, off field archer etc... and a 1000km epic shot archer. So technically, the entire team becomes a single character by taking advantage of a team composition. This are just few example of the characters different mechanic. Have fun playing with the artifact too and the weapons. a pain in the arse to farm but if it were any easy, it ll be a dull game. Sacrifice a bit of damage for a smooth gameplay or risk it, who needs shield and heals anyway. People can have fun building and playing. Exploration can be fun and annoying sometimes which is part of enjoying a game. Some players didn't like this and compared it to WUWA. Make all the characters the possess the same feature. Some players hated the Chasm map in Genshin but after completing the Chasm cave is when the players realize how fun it is to explore such a deep and huge cave. If exploration where any easy, no one would even remember that map. The challenge of successfully exploring a very dark cave. Sumeru's Pyramid exploration generated a lot of meme. Majority of the players had a story to tell because of that pyramid. A fun experience now looking back to it actually. Wuwa offers a straight forward hack and slash mechanic which is fun. Hack and slash has always been fun. Wuwa is feeding the players everything tho, it is just convenient. Every character can reach the same location with their mobility so you actually don't have to think at all. All of Wuwa's character gameplay feels the same which is not bad. The only difference is the effects animation and the numbers but the gameplay is technically the same which is also not bad. it is a hack and slash game. It never gets old. A classic. It'll be funny if Kokomi with her fish can parry. In the early days of genshin, I still remember the island near monsdatht in genshin where players built an ice bridge because they want to see if the island is real. The trial and error because we all thought of gliding our way only to drown. And it is indeed a real island.. Genshin would always put something in a very high place for the players to deal with, literally. Yep we noticed that genshin always does that and some players don't and they just complain. Genshin provide a complex mechanic with a building element and a fast pace real time action. Certain character's ability has pro's and cons for the user to figure out in order to take advantage. Time to use the wits of a gamer and rage.
Hoyoverse is cocky now. They no that if they produce anything mediocre their consumers are gonna enjoy it. No matter which hoyo game is it. But in case of wuwa it's different. People have set a bat expectations. And when it's not met the game is dead for them. It's just so stupid. If I had to say I hate both genshin and wuwa. But to be honest I like wuwa a little more because its f2p friendly and good QoL. If genshin did that 2 years ago then I would have loved genshin even more. I just feel like a disappointed father 😂
@@cypureisreallybusy imagine calling a company cocky when that company is technically the first company to start this type of "mobile" game in the first place. It started with gun girl Z. A action gacha game of mihoyo. Then they made honkai impact. This is before PGR and the other 3d action hack and slash game on mobile. Calling a complex mechanic mediocre would only mean that you don't understand how genshin manage its mechanic with its animations. And hoyo made genshin 4 years ago. That is like you are calling Legend of zelda breath of the wild a mediocre game lol. Genshin gameplay is just right for the game. It can't be any faster or slower. It is just about right because the game emphasize a simple mechanic called swap or rotation. Hoyo's new game, zenless zone or ZZZ is innovational. They play with the TV, the cutscene is movie quality. The parry system is a buddy system. The character look out for each other which is a very nice detail. They release the game almost the same month of Wuwa so its understandable that WUWA is struggling not because of Genshin but actually because of ZZZ and star rail. Zenless animation is not just effects unlike wuwa. It is not bad but people who know will notice. Effects and animation are different. ZZZ's file size is literally just the character animation turning around smiling and showing a smug face. It is not just effects which is why hoyo games is great, we are not being overwhelmed with effects. Hoyo is actually putting more details on its animation and lessen the unnecessary effects. Genshin veterans like myself no longer spend that much compared to when the game first released because we are already comfortable of the game. And the game still manage to release fresh play style after 4 years. Mualani and Kinich and a pumping Kachina is a fresh air. Transforming to a dragon and playing with the environmental mechanics is mediocre now? At the moment, people spend their money on Honkai rail and Zenless zone. Honkai rail won several awards which is understandable because of its story telling and music. Among Hoyo's game, star rail did a good story telling job. Genshin has been able to win several awards as well against its competitor. Genshin has so many details that people don't noticed which you can find on the internet. From the story telling, visual, there are hints, small detail that is all over the game. They went an extra mile for those details. hoyo being cocky, if that is true, nobody would buy their game. common sense bro
@@Anya-Anyaaa if not cocky why not bring QoL updates before why wait 4 years? They added 1 condensed resin worth of resin and they didn't even if us a 5 star without us begging and praying to them and they did what? Gave as a standard selector which most of the people have a copy of. They refuse to give a limited banner character. So calling them cocky is fair. I agree genshin did it's best in its prime. But now it's different. I would like to see competition and let's be honest there was not a single genshin competitor like wuthering waves so I have to give them praise.
@@cypureisreallybusy QQL lol Ahh wut? so now you are spouting nonsense. Condense resin was updated around version 1.4 that is literally 4 years ago. Standard collector? Why are you even begging or praying for something free in the first place? A character that you would eventually get if you lose a 50/50. Why would they give limited character banner for free? The game is already free to play and you want more??the audacity of this person. By simply playing, you will eventually get enough rewards to get your limited characters without even trying for free. I really had to spell this out lol Genshin gameplay has always been the same with a twist. For example, Kinich graplling. You do realize that Xianyun can do the same technically, wanderer can literally fly for 5 seconds straight or if you use the meta, even longer. And a lot of character has a very good perks with them plus the game environment has a mechanic that we can use for exploration. Some characters already possess a very good ability to make the game easier. You ask for too much. Wuwa is a competitor, unfortunately it is not even a match. Genshin has so many mechanics in the game while wuwa is a straight forward hack and slash. I tried wuwa for a week, yea its fun, it is a hack and slash, that is it, nothing new. What Wuwa has are people who wants free stuff because they want free stuff. As for the graphic, it's just lighting although Wuwa did a good job with the characters, it is just the lighting. At this point, we can call it, art style of a game. Zenless zone of hoyo has a huge file size because each character is different from another, they didn't use the same model unlike genshin or wuwa. And yea something you would not understand anyway.
People be like > wait for shorekeeper she will defeat GI HSR and ZZZ. > wait for camellya she will defeat GI HSR and ZZZ. > please wait 2.0 they will destroy GI HSR and ZZZ. Mavuika isn't even release yet, and also Miyabi..
can't wait for Saintontas and Kazahana to work harder and make some good copium videos XD ahahaaahahha by the way, i love the PACIFIC RIM BGM ahahaahahahaa
I genuinely hope NTE and Azur community can learn from this, picking a fight with Gesnhin pretty much mean alienating 90% of your potential playerbase. Don't end up like Wuwa, the more wuwa pick a fight with Genshin, the deader it will be.
That is the problem with wuwa. Wuwa general idea is almost the same as genshin with just some different aspects that differences them. Wuwa need to be more unique.
tbf Wuwa not only picking fight with GI but other gacha games bcs they're the best combat game & your game is tr4sh ped0 bait eventough Verina art show her armpit and Youhu idle asking for correction. toxic Wuwa cc like stix also alrd made NTE hate videos and ofc they're trashing over ZZZ, GI, TOF etc. then when everyone pissed the dev locked 1.3 live chat lol.
The problem is the content creator such as tectone If tectone already has eyes on some game that he can make drama by pinning it with Genshin he will leach to it and automatically his fanbase that he build with majority of it anti-hoyo and genshin will leach to it as well making the game community toxic So "real" azure promilia and NTE fan has to gatekeep their game from those people
I can finally die in peace, knowing that the game I loved will fade away with me. After pulling Camellya, the final goal I had left, I will then proceed with my suicide plan. the plan I’ve carried with me for so long. It feels like both of our stories are ending together. Thank you, Wuthering Waves, for keeping me going these past few months.
Even when HSR gave out Ratio it wasn't this low. But damn the prophecy is true it actually managed to reach TOF level. But deserved tbh Wuwa community too based against Hoyo nowadays.
Wuwa losing to summoners war will always be hilarious. The game well known for being predatory and p2w as heck still has more paying players than wuwa 😂
@@Xxxitsmehx facts lol. All it takes is good combat and free wishes to hook those shills. They do Olympic gold medalist level mental gymnastics to explain how the story actually isn’t that bad and how they redid the voice acting (if you redo something and it still sounds terrible what’s the point).
@Kota-sk8sl its not even good combat They just copied the discharge tof system and added genshin ultimate on top + outro Thats all their originality, parrys feel like trash because they don't even have a proper parry animation lmao, unlike zzz where it really feels like a parry, two fking unique animations depending of the attack
> "The game well known for being predatory and p2w as heck still has more paying players than wuwa"? I’m amazed by your impeccable logic. Having more paying players doesn’t mean the game is better, especially when it’s known for being predatory and p2w. It just means they're better at exploiting their audience, not providing a fair or enjoyable experience.
Glazing a billion dollar company money that you will never see in your life is lowlife behaviour. How about we compare the actual game itself, as far as side by side comparison wuwa makes genshin impact look like a mickey mouse game.
Ww is really following tof footsteps, month after month. Global numbers, sadly i dont have chinese number for tof launch. 5 months for tof: 67M 5 months for ww: 65M. 6th month from tof: 2.8M Who will win next?
TOF character banner slow down after more than 2 years, wuwa slow down only after 6 months release lol. kuro really bad at managing resource its seems. also not to mention wuwa is more expensive to maintance compared to TOF. to be equal to TOF in earnings but need more budget to produce, its really a bad sign tbh.
@@Kramer8 The fact that that chart now got updated on the website and was basically missing half of WuWa's revenue for September when it was uploaded first is insane.
What is going to the cope now? If WuWa is such a better game, why people don't spend on it? Why nobody is playing it? I can't wait for NTE and Azur Promilia to come out so this game finally dies off along its toxic playerbase that has Genshin rent free in their mind.
@@mlwlan The game has 20k+ reviews at the SAME TIME, unless those 20k+ reviewers planned this and has zoom call or whatever it is to rate wuwa 5 stars at the same time, it's botted 100% Also there's legit a comment that say wuwa is "MMORPG", if that's not bot then I don't know what it is then And I know how botted reviewers is more since I familiar with it, one liner reviews is a example of botted reviews
Kuro games, a developer who is too lazy to do an advertising. Now suddenly put an efforts to bot their rating to be relevant. Really smart move since they can use the money to actually advertise... What kind of copium you smoke? Well i just get jumped by the hoyoshills gtg
@@Kota-sk8sl Even with full coomer design, NIKKE story is far more interesting than wuwa lol. both also has post apocalypse theme. i cant believe kuro f*ck up wuwa this badly.....
Dunno, where are the glazers? I sees the situation more as they just tryna defend thier beloved game from toxic gacha players mostly from genshin. Two playerbases completed wuwa's, ex-genshin/genshin players or players that came from pgr. Pgr in fact is one of the most nicest gacha community- leave them alone from the fact that you cant help yourself with getting unnecessary and unwanted attention that would prove useless such as argument or hate from two gachas.
@@rishuraspencer1262 Have you not browse youtube? Its full of wuwa cultists saying shorekeeper is the best thing ever. Lets think objectively here, shorekeeper is ass, do you agree?
Crazy that ToF in its prime made way more Wuwa but with 1\4 of wuwa's budget...what happened? Game's not bad and visuals are amazing as well as combat.
It's the first "Genshin Killer". It basically rode on Genshin success but failed to meet expectations. Genshin right now, while still huge, it's just not as popular as it used to be
Please stop coping so hard. Those are facts. I like game. With all these cope doesn't want to accept the truth it is starting get on my nerves and makes me want to uninstall game right away. xdd
Yeah, you're right it did go up, the September revenue is now at 11.5 mil on that site. They updated it. (Edited because went up by another mil again lol)
visual graphic and combat sure, but we talk about gacha games here. ppl simply want to pull a waifu/husbando and they want to know them better. wuwa just fail in this aspect, almost all wuwa character is just looks pretty but empty inside, they dont even have gimmick to make them looks interesting lol.
@@arifasatria7704 yes like I said it cut off before shorekeepers release basically meaning xiangli yao a free character by himself nearly made 7 mil, imagine how much camellya will make then probably 20 mil which isn't that bad obviously not genshin numbers but good enough.
The Wuwa CC claimed 50mil.. 6.75 and 10.5 is still far less than 50, as if it makes any difference. Stop trying so hard for a negligible increase 😂 If its 25mil then yea at least it's half way there, but damm...
@@gachaa_enjoyerno need to be so butt hurt my man. Those guys are neo Genshit Stan’s that wanted hardcore combat in Genshit but didn’t so they moved to WuWa. Don’t apply this to all WuWa community boy 😊
@@gachaa_enjoyer Those wuwa CCs are overhyping the game, wuwa's monetization structure is more consumer-friendly (lower pity, 2 free sequences, 100% weapon banner) and doesn't allow it to surpass Genshin unless it has x1.5-x2 of it's audience; which will never happen. The equivalent to wuwa making 50m would be Genshin making 75-100 - no chance. Now what is interesting is the inaccuracy of the "data" you use as an "unbiased" journalist. ToF's july revenue was 10m on publicly available revenue reports issued by the company, but sensor tower listed it as 730k. Perfect World and Shift Up have also reported a x4-x10 disparity via publicly available revenue statements issued directly from the company vs the sensor tower reports. Now apply that with the survey sample that indicates there's a 40/60+% split between mobile and PC wuwa players. I'm just saying as a professional journalist you seem to be very uneducated and lack the ability to critically think, kind of unfortunate for you really but it is what it is I guess.
@@meichung8950 No need to tell me all the calculations, after all, the CC knows that and have taken it into consideration when making the prediction. And as an unbiased channel, we do not tolerate hate here - saying that Wuwa has "no chance" to make 50m is akin to doom posting, your comment is a thinly veiled disguise to promote hate. Sensor tower only shows mobile revenue, not PC. What's your second point about? Pls get your teacher to review your comment before posting
ah, it's because we've been winning rates and get soft pity. I mean, look at me, i got verina and shorekeepers for 65 pulls, not to mention that i haven't gone explore the map and clear all the quests (finished tower of adversity, as a veteran of dark souls and bloodborne mf ofc). Honestly, WuWa gives me more free time than genshin (which i dropped cuz i can't even play the game peacefully, fr).
You think WW didn't have fomo is mad coping Also genshin has soft pity as well Also please don't you ever try to pit dark souls with WW WW is trash compared to fromsoft game
@@pontoancora i don't like games that has too many contents, i prefer game contents that has the same frequency like arknight and zzz (i uninstall it to play hsr since turn-base is my 1st fav genre of all). It just so happen that WuWa caught my eyes eventho exploration open world gacha is not my cup of tea.
their revenue went from halfed to halved in literal months, this is what happens when wuwa players get to offensive to the genshin community 😂 “lets alienate ourselves from potentially 90% of wuwas playerbase because were so superior”
Wuwa still on red with most hyped char that also meta on all teams, not even 11M, meanwhile zzz, the biggest hoyoverse flop in history or thats what wuwabots said, is still with 34M
@@Tilin2461 ah yes lets ignore the fact that september was mostly just XLY banner (a free caracter) and shorekeeper spiked after her release day, you guys are so funny man
The only thing smart players should care about is the quality of the game, not how much it baits you into spending money or preys on your addiction. Oh, but of course, the true measure of a game's greatness must be how many zeroes are in its revenue, not trivial things like gameplay, story, or whether it’s actually fun. Why bother enjoying the game when you can just enjoy watching it rake in cash, right?
"Joined 8 hours ago" ... created a new alt account just to comment here eh But yes you're right, the quality of the game matters the most. It also happens that revenue is a reflection of quality like gameplay, story, or whether it's actually fun. After all, it's your words against the others, you might think one game is good, but the majority don't think so, and it is shown here.
@@gachaa_enjoyer majority never gave WuWa a chance. Genshin and HSR have far bigger playerbases. This whole discourse is filled with bad faith arguments and all of you are stupid for fighting instead of appreciating the games for what they are and offer. You can like both Genshin and WuWa, you know?
@@Progeusz- I don't hate any games, and I neither do I play Genshin nor Wuwa, which is why I don't make subjective arguments like "story, gameplay, design", etc. In fact this channel have never compared Wuwa to Genshin in any of the videos but yet somehow many comments assume I play Genshin, interesting.. Numbers shown here and in other videos are publicly available and unbiased, they are literal numbers that show the behaviors of the general player base.
@@gachaa_enjoyer > "created a new alt account just to comment here eh" Hey, give me a break, will ya? Some RUclipsrs always seem to have a habit of blocking anyone who disagrees with them. The thing is, I don’t like it when people block me just because they can’t win an argument. So, I have to go through all the trouble of creating a different account. Talk about creating an echo chamber. > "It also happens that revenue is a reflection of quality" Revenue doesn't necessarily reflect quality, it often reflects how well a game is monetized, not how good it actually is. Just because something sells well doesn’t make it good. Look at mobile games with aggressive P2W systems, they generate tons of revenue by exploiting players, not because they offer better gameplay, story, or fun. Popularity doesn’t equal quality, and sometimes the majority is drawn in by manipulative tactics, not superior content.
usually ppl want to spent more if the game is fun and has more value for them. quality also include story, ost and other stuff like making character personality look good and interesting. wuwa only good in graphic and visual, maybe good combat too but its not enough tbh, especially for gacha games. ppl want to pull waifu/husbando to know them better and wuwa fail to deliver this since most of their characters just look pretty but empty inside, theres not even a gimmick to make them look interesting lol, no wonder ppl doesnt care much about wuwa character and dont want to spent more in this game.
Its a pc game lol Edited- sigh hoyoshills need to understand this game sucks in phone. Saying other games are also in pc doesn't make sense. Even ps5 support isnt available in the game
@@chihaotran1568let them alienate themselves from genshin players 😂 its not gonna hurt us or genshins revenue lmao, a supposedly hype ass female “waifu” cant even defeat an afk game 🗣 graphics is nice but it doesnt hide the bad story and selling too much females there’s literally only been 2 limited male 5* in this whole ass time, it just goes to show that wuwa only releases characters that appeals man childs into pulling another “mommy” character
@@Tilin2461yeah but for a channel name gacha enjoyer it feel a bit misleading only talking about negative thing everytime instead of enjoying other game to
@@pizzaman3985well channel name is indeed anything but a gacha enjoyer Or maybe he is a true gacha enjoyer, the real one that doompost x game because why not
This is so stupid. A company which loves their players. Showers them with ingame currency very f2p friendly, gives a limited 5 star for free sacrificing its monthly income, QoL updates to make our experience better. And people still hate. I love all gacha games. All the Hoyoverse games too but now im not interested because they give less free pulls to secure a character. Hoyoverse is gonna win every gacha revenue, its gonna be genshin topping hsr and it topping zzz and vice versa. But fighting over this is very childish and immature. Wuwa is doing great and i already see people hating and saying its gonna meet EoS which far from true. Judging a gacha games survival solely on its monthly is dumb.
do you understand that companies want money right? if WuWa continues bleeding profit, Kuro will start to cut costs to maximize it, and that will affect game quality in the future. dont't run from the truth
@@cypureisreallybusy Kuro does not love its players. It gave y’all great combat with the rest of the game being complete garbage and then threw some free wishes at you to keep you gambling and distracted. Every time someone says Kuro loves their players I cringe bruh, they didn’t even bother to give you a good game and you endlessly glaze them for a standard banner selector…for characters you’re going to get when you lose 50/50s anyway. Guaranteed sig weapon isn’t even good bc all the free weapons except for the two cr standard weaps and variation are absolutely garbage, so you’re almost forced to pull weapon ESPECIALLY on dps and supports with how hyper specific their buffs and passives are. So tell me exactly why you think Kuro loves their players?
@@Kota-sk8sl who hurt you? Your the type of guy who would d ride genshin just because they removed one fate point from the weapon banner. They are stingy and admit it.
@@Kota-sk8sl because of the QoL. They read the feedback from players. Unlike genshin. They are improving the game. Can't you see it? If your still blind and don't believe that kuro love it's players there's something wrong with you. I'm sorry.
Genshin fans talk about about things which has nothing to do with what the game is offering and console themselves. Wuthering Waves is a better a game and it will be. This is why Genshin has below 4 ratings and WuWa has 4.9 ratings.
Glazing a billion dollar company money that you will never see in your life is lowlife behaviour. How about we compare the actual game itself, as far as side by side comparison wuwa makes genshin impact look like a mickey mouse game.
@@hroki247 do you wuwa shills actually believe this? With that dead, empty, lifeless, boring world? The terribly written story that’s just constant rover glaze? The trash music (I mean seriously dreamless is the only good ost in the game)? With all the huge patches of the overworld that have zero chests/puzzles/enemies? Like other than combat and character design what do you specifically think is ACTUALLY good about wuwa?
Man, i left genshin on 2.2 and after playing wuwa i literally thought on coming back because it wasn't that bad Wuwa on the other hand, wuwa has one of the worst writting i have seen on my entire life, makes isekai smartphone look like a good plot because even that anime makes some sense Random aliens spawned from nowhere, people with superpowers, scifi thats also fantasy/wuxia with brainless characters that only exist to simp self insert rover, harembait, its so patetic Not even the autorun worked, insane stuttering, ugly character designs, the same copypasta genshin exploration, stamina bullshit when climbing, resin system but way worse, no house building, no fishing, no cards, no weekly boss coop, ugly coop with 1 char, max 3 players 4 years of difference between genshin and wuwa launch, they learned nothing
@@Kota-sk8sl Of course a mickey mouse enjoyer wants colorful pallete worlds. A post apocalyptic world with bright color palletes, then your brain will shut off when playing fall out. Funny how you shills complain its a genshin copy but complain that it doesnt have the same bright pallete as GI.
@@hroki247 did I ever mention color palette? No. “Dead, empty, lifeless, boring world” refers to the GIANT patches of the map that legitimately have had nothing in them since launch. It refers to the copy and pasted buildings all around the sea of flames and across the entire map. You do not need bright colors to make a post apocalyptic theme work, nor did I ever ask for it or even mention it: fallout and tons of other games have successfully done this years ago. It’s funny how you kuroshills consistently have to bring up points nobody ever mentioned because you are completely incapable of arguing the points people make.
Damn didnt expect Wuwa to fall off this hard
I kept scrolling and scrolling and was wondering where Wuwa was!
I've seen so many Wuwa players who wished that Genshin would die. They constantly insult Genshin players, so it's just karma at this point. The Wuwa fanbase has actively deterred me from playing and spending money in that game, due to constantly acting like they are superior to every other game.
Good and old karma
Fr same...
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they spent most of their time hating on hoyogames they forgot to login and spend on their own game 💀
It's alright. The game has optimization issues anyway.
Wuwa people forgot there are players with weak hardware and low skill. Something Genshin caters to successfully. Not everyone has a pc or likes to play on one. And the dodge-parry style isn't fit for casuals (I'm not saying you're one lol). Pair that with optimization issues and ta dah. Good luck to Kuro trying to get that audience to play their skill-based game.
I'm selling popcorn here. Who's going to buy while waiting for the people with their excuses. 🍿🍿🍿
I'm buying, and I guess we can make more than ww did this month xD
Thx, I also brought some drinks if anyone wants some🍹🥤🧉🧋
dont worry wuwabros, camellya wil save wuwa next patch trust and yes its definitely 50 WUWAZILLIONS
> Genshin killer
> males don't sell well, wait for Yinlin
> the sales were bugged, wait for Changli
> $30m is actually good for Kuro, so what if our two most hyped banners can't beat Genshin/HSR in dead patches?
> ZheZhi isn't hype and this was a dead patch, game is fine
> Shorekeeper is barely an upgrade over Verina so people aren't pulling
> "I think it's OK as long as we survive, right"
> at least dEvs LiSTeNed even though WuWa has the worst story out of any mainstream gacha, the worst music, the worst writing, and the worst voice acting
> I'm glad WuWa is as niche as PGR, just shows that Kuro only cares for their players and not profits
> Camellya will save WuWa
And on and on. Just accept that WuWa is more of a ToF competitor than any of the top gacha games, or continue to get clowned on.
4.9 rating dont forget
@@aorusuki2374 ahh of course. But I feel bad shoving that copious take in their face when the game is already one foot in the grave.
To truly defeat an opponent you must first give them a semblance of hope - Ghandi
upvote, Im surprise you keep up with their excuses
@@kingsimba9513 4.9 rating with
141k reviews .
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@looots1320 I did forget the PC sales argument, which has been debunked by Bilibili's version of SensorTower (I've made my status as a screenshot of the source because YT doesn't permit external links).
As anyone can see, PC sales make up about 62.5% of WuWa's revenues, whereas it's 66.7% for Genshin. Keep in mind that these percentages are PC/Other, so for Genshin, 'Other' would include console sales. Therefore, WuWa's PC ratio would presumably fall even further when the game is released on the PS5.
WuWa glazers simply underestimate just how much mobile gaming dominates in Asia. Have to remember that Global also encompasses Korea, Japan, India, and all of Southeast Asia.
Also, certain mobile app stores, like Samsung Galaxy, not only offer exclusive discounts but also allow for more niche payment options like paying at a convenience store. So even PC players may still opt to spend on mobile.
I’d conclude that, like SensorTower, these are just well-informed estimates based on a combination of publicly available proxy data and proprietary sources. But that doesn't make it useless as the core methodology will remain fixed over time, which lends to meaningful trend analysis. So, while the exact percentages might not be accurate, the relationship between one game to another is.
And any educated estimate is infinitely more credible than a random person's 'feelings'.
It's pretty commendable that WuWa is genuinely embracing the Kuro CEO's philosophy: "I think it's OK as long as the game survives." Judging by these numbers, it seems that players are embracing this view as well.
I have no idea why people were ever hyping up this quote. It just reads like a lack of ambition masked as a corporate gesture of goodwill. Do WuWa players seriously believe that Kuro is some benevolent entity? They're a for-profit company that thrives on exploiting gambling tendencies lmao.
Let me guess, when you go to the store, one tries everything to scam you as much as possible, while the other has reasonable prices, and you’ll still say, "Yeah, the scam store is the best."
After all, nothing screams "we care about you" like preying on gambling tendencies for profit, just like a certain company, right?
And God forbid we actually praise the company that's clearly doing a better job.
@@anthonylt3548 "Clearly doing a better job". I think you're not adult, because In business perspective "clearly doing a better job" means "making a lot of profit"
Wuwa is doing worse and worse...
@@anthonylt3548 oh the copium
if the kuro ceo actually believed what he said. He wouldnt be releasing a gacha game.
@@Dubstep_Gun Ah, you got me. With your talent, you must be someone important, right? Are you a CEO or something?
Did it ever occur to you that when I mentioned predatory practices, I wasn’t talking about profit? I was referring to the player experience.
I’m a customer-I care about what good the company does for me, not how much money the company makes.
But of course, you don’t care about that, do you? You only care about which gacha company can squeeze the most money out of its players.
If you are on the lowest you can only go up
-Sun Tzu probably
That's the fun part, they still can go down.
@@pontoancora I mean obviously Shorekeeper will bring WW at least $15mil, surely right?
@@arifasatria7704 my initial bet is 10M, actually. But is too soon.
Honestly, some of Wuwa's player base are those Genshin F2p who want to boycott genshin because of rewards issue, something they never deserve in the first place because they don't buy anything. So i am not really surprised. They should help wuwa by buying something tho.
Wuwa is a good game. Genshin and Wuwa had a different approach to their game which consumers immediately noticed.
Genshin feels fresh.
Genshin want for their consumer to build different ways of playing one character using the game mechanics. The playstyle change depending on the artifact, items, team composition, elemental reaction and certain skill condition of a character like the animation duration, , range, CD, effects and condition (ex: bounce, burn application etc..., knockback, stagger, pull animation, freeze debuff, buffs etc...). Character with a long animation can lead to a time loss or it can be a great deal.
Example: we can play Raiden Shogun as a hyper carry or Hyperbloom EM team with her omni range skill or she could be in a National team or Overload or mixed and so on... And this apply to almost every character but it is not the same.
Fischl is considered better than Yae Miko because her animation require her to stay on field longer than fischl. Yae Miko's damage is higher. Yae Miko is a good character it is just in a certain type of playstyle, Fischl quick rotation as a sub DPS is better. Yae miko tho can easily outrank fischl in terms of DPS. Both great characters that has similarities but different.
Not every character can parry. Beido can parry and throw a counter. Her counter damage increase base on her parry time precision. Yun Jin and Candice parry is meant for protection and energy regeneration.
Not every character can fly. Xianyun, wanderer and some other characters has the ability that allows them. While some can climb like vertically almost upside down like Kirara, or just teleport with Keqing or chiori etc.... I prefer using the world mechanic tho and play my favorite team.
There is Hu Tao normal attack build, CA vape, Burst build with Ayaka or Mona or furina etc... or spice it with a plunge build with Xianyun. C0 Hu Tao requires a bit of skill with the jump cancel animation. we became techy
Archers? There is a homing archers, exploding archer, Melt archer, off field archer etc... and a 1000km epic shot archer. So technically, the entire team becomes a single character by taking advantage of a team composition.
This are just few example of the characters different mechanic.
Have fun playing with the artifact too and the weapons. a pain in the arse to farm but if it were any easy, it ll be a dull game. Sacrifice a bit of damage for a smooth gameplay or risk it, who needs shield and heals anyway.
People can have fun building and playing. Exploration can be fun and annoying sometimes which is part of enjoying a game. Some players didn't like this and compared it to WUWA. Make all the characters the possess the same feature. Some players hated the Chasm map in Genshin but after completing the Chasm cave is when the players realize how fun it is to explore such a deep and huge cave. If exploration where any easy, no one would even remember that map. The challenge of successfully exploring a very dark cave. Sumeru's Pyramid exploration generated a lot of meme. Majority of the players had a story to tell because of that pyramid. A fun experience now looking back to it actually.
Wuwa offers a straight forward hack and slash mechanic which is fun. Hack and slash has always been fun.
Wuwa is feeding the players everything tho, it is just convenient. Every character can reach the same location with their mobility so you actually don't have to think at all. All of Wuwa's character gameplay feels the same which is not bad. The only difference is the effects animation and the numbers but the gameplay is technically the same which is also not bad. it is a hack and slash game. It never gets old. A classic.
It'll be funny if Kokomi with her fish can parry.
In the early days of genshin, I still remember the island near monsdatht in genshin where players built an ice bridge because they want to see if the island is real. The trial and error because we all thought of gliding our way only to drown. And it is indeed a real island.. Genshin would always put something in a very high place for the players to deal with, literally.
Yep we noticed that genshin always does that and some players don't and they just complain.
Genshin provide a complex mechanic with a building element and a fast pace real time action. Certain character's ability has pro's and cons for the user to figure out in order to take advantage. Time to use the wits of a gamer and rage.
Hoyoverse is cocky now. They no that if they produce anything mediocre their consumers are gonna enjoy it. No matter which hoyo game is it. But in case of wuwa it's different. People have set a bat expectations. And when it's not met the game is dead for them. It's just so stupid. If I had to say I hate both genshin and wuwa. But to be honest I like wuwa a little more because its f2p friendly and good QoL. If genshin did that 2 years ago then I would have loved genshin even more. I just feel like a disappointed father 😂
@@cypureisreallybusy imagine calling a company cocky when that company is technically the first company to start this type of "mobile" game in the first place. It started with gun girl Z. A action gacha game of mihoyo. Then they made honkai impact.
This is before PGR and the other 3d action hack and slash game on mobile.
Calling a complex mechanic mediocre would only mean that you don't understand how genshin manage its mechanic with its animations. And hoyo made genshin 4 years ago.
That is like you are calling Legend of zelda breath of the wild a mediocre game lol.
Genshin gameplay is just right for the game. It can't be any faster or slower. It is just about right because the game emphasize a simple mechanic called swap or rotation.
Hoyo's new game, zenless zone or ZZZ is innovational. They play with the TV, the cutscene is movie quality. The parry system is a buddy system. The character look out for each other which is a very nice detail. They release the game almost the same month of Wuwa so its understandable that WUWA is struggling not because of Genshin but actually because of ZZZ and star rail.
Zenless animation is not just effects unlike wuwa. It is not bad but people who know will notice. Effects and animation are different. ZZZ's file size is literally just the character animation turning around smiling and showing a smug face. It is not just effects which is why hoyo games is great, we are not being overwhelmed with effects. Hoyo is actually putting more details on its animation and lessen the unnecessary effects.
Genshin veterans like myself no longer spend that much compared to when the game first released because we are already comfortable of the game. And the game still manage to release fresh play style after 4 years. Mualani and Kinich and a pumping Kachina is a fresh air.
Transforming to a dragon and playing with the environmental mechanics is mediocre now?
At the moment, people spend their money on Honkai rail and Zenless zone. Honkai rail won several awards which is understandable because of its story telling and music. Among Hoyo's game, star rail did a good story telling job.
Genshin has been able to win several awards as well against its competitor. Genshin has so many details that people don't noticed which you can find on the internet. From the story telling, visual, there are hints, small detail that is all over the game. They went an extra mile for those details.
hoyo being cocky, if that is true, nobody would buy their game. common sense bro
@@Anya-Anyaaa if not cocky why not bring QoL updates before why wait 4 years? They added 1 condensed resin worth of resin and they didn't even if us a 5 star without us begging and praying to them and they did what? Gave as a standard selector which most of the people have a copy of. They refuse to give a limited banner character. So calling them cocky is fair. I agree genshin did it's best in its prime. But now it's different. I would like to see competition and let's be honest there was not a single genshin competitor like wuthering waves so I have to give them praise.
@@cypureisreallybusy QQL lol Ahh wut? so now you are spouting nonsense. Condense resin was updated around version 1.4 that is literally 4 years ago.
Standard collector? Why are you even begging or praying for something free in the first place?
A character that you would eventually get if you lose a 50/50.
Why would they give limited character banner for free? The game is already free to play and you want more??the audacity of this person.
By simply playing, you will eventually get enough rewards to get your limited characters without even trying for free. I really had to spell this out lol
Genshin gameplay has always been the same with a twist.
For example, Kinich graplling. You do realize that Xianyun can do the same technically, wanderer can literally fly for 5 seconds straight or if you use the meta, even longer. And a lot of character has a very good perks with them plus the game environment has a mechanic that we can use for exploration.
Some characters already possess a very good ability to make the game easier. You ask for too much.
Wuwa is a competitor, unfortunately it is not even a match.
Genshin has so many mechanics in the game while wuwa is a straight forward hack and slash. I tried wuwa for a week, yea its fun, it is a hack and slash, that is it, nothing new.
What Wuwa has are people who wants free stuff because they want free stuff.
As for the graphic, it's just lighting although Wuwa did a good job with the characters, it is just the lighting. At this point, we can call it, art style of a game.
Zenless zone of hoyo has a huge file size because each character is different from another, they didn't use the same model unlike genshin or wuwa. And yea something you would not understand anyway.
@@cypureisreallybusy you dont need to worry about genshin lil bro. You want competition ? Go spending money on wuwa bozo 😂
Talk is cheap
Shattering Expectations
People be like
> wait for shorekeeper she will defeat GI HSR and ZZZ.
> wait for camellya she will defeat GI HSR and ZZZ.
> please wait 2.0 they will destroy GI HSR and ZZZ.
Mavuika isn't even release yet, and also Miyabi..
Mereka sedang menghibur diri setelah menghujat game hoyo lalu terjatuh sangat dalam 🗿
Wuwa stepbrothers not even the biggest copium can save us now
Black Swan will save Wuwa.
Tor putki kala
White swan 💀
Wuwasisters, don't worry, Carmelo Hayes will save Wuwa!
Infinity Nikki gonna solo entire gachaverse
This guy speaking facts
Based
you will hope that it won't be as greedy as LaDs
Infinity Nikki and Nikke collab when?
"50 mil" i swear wuwa CCs are so out of touch with reality.
90% of CCs these days are clowns 🤡
@@Yesido470 including this one
can't wait for Saintontas and Kazahana to work harder and make some good copium videos XD ahahaaahahha
by the way, i love the PACIFIC RIM BGM ahahaahahahaa
Katakana already made one yesterday
Let see how gachasmack gonna make a positive take about this, that clwn is a yap master 😂
@@chito2701 saint is the biggest glazer on the planet and it’s legit because he’s fully incapable of making real content lol
Saint already made a video and the cope is over 9000
I genuinely hope NTE and Azur community can learn from this, picking a fight with Gesnhin pretty much mean alienating 90% of your potential playerbase.
Don't end up like Wuwa, the more wuwa pick a fight with Genshin, the deader it will be.
That is the problem with wuwa. Wuwa general idea is almost the same as genshin with just some different aspects that differences them.
Wuwa need to be more unique.
tbf Wuwa not only picking fight with GI but other gacha games bcs they're the best combat game & your game is tr4sh ped0 bait eventough Verina art show her armpit and Youhu idle asking for correction.
toxic Wuwa cc like stix also alrd made NTE hate videos and ofc they're trashing over ZZZ, GI, TOF etc.
then when everyone pissed the dev locked 1.3 live chat lol.
also don't forget your game is trash coomerbait different from king wuwa eventough wuwa story is resolve around new female want to f*ck Rover
The problem is the content creator such as tectone
If tectone already has eyes on some game that he can make drama by pinning it with Genshin he will leach to it and automatically his fanbase that he build with majority of it anti-hoyo and genshin will leach to it as well making the game community toxic
So "real" azure promilia and NTE fan has to gatekeep their game from those people
That's the reason why I quit Wuwa. No regrets. Just hope that the community of Azur Promilia doesn't follow what Wuwa community did.
I can finally die in peace, knowing that the game I loved will fade away with me. After pulling Camellya, the final goal I had left, I will then proceed with my suicide plan. the plan I’ve carried with me for so long. It feels like both of our stories are ending together. Thank you, Wuthering Waves, for keeping me going these past few months.
Hey man don't kill yourself.
Bro don't give up so fast, try infinity Nikke
Even when HSR gave out Ratio it wasn't this low. But damn the prophecy is true it actually managed to reach TOF level. But deserved tbh Wuwa community too based against Hoyo nowadays.
They are losing to tof comparing their launch dates (global only)
5 months of tof: 67M
5 months of ww: 64M
hsr still made 20 million with ratio🤣
@@pontoancoraand that is only for global...cn 1st month for tof was like 120m
@@fiyibomiolabode and 48M combined
hsr is actually a good game, wuwa is not, no surprise there
Wuwa losing to summoners war will always be hilarious. The game well known for being predatory and p2w as heck still has more paying players than wuwa 😂
Kurobots in shambles 😘
@@Xxxitsmehx facts lol. All it takes is good combat and free wishes to hook those shills. They do Olympic gold medalist level mental gymnastics to explain how the story actually isn’t that bad and how they redid the voice acting (if you redo something and it still sounds terrible what’s the point).
@Kota-sk8sl its not even good combat
They just copied the discharge tof system and added genshin ultimate on top + outro
Thats all their originality, parrys feel like trash because they don't even have a proper parry animation lmao, unlike zzz where it really feels like a parry, two fking unique animations depending of the attack
@@Tilin2461 I mean it’s definitely not amazing but I feel it’s good enough to give wuwa some point for. The rest of the game is straight garbage tho
> "The game well known for being predatory and p2w as heck still has more paying players than wuwa"?
I’m amazed by your impeccable logic.
Having more paying players doesn’t mean the game is better, especially when it’s known for being predatory and p2w. It just means they're better at exploiting their audience, not providing a fair or enjoyable experience.
Next month Wuwa will definitely destroy Hoyo!
Its Jiyan's banner vs Xilonen, Rappa, and Burnice.
Hoyoverse is afraid!
Genshin killer
I read a comment on reddit that the baby Saurians killed Wuwa
pets > wuwa
i play both so those game are great no hate
Glazing a billion dollar company money that you will never see in your life is lowlife behaviour. How about we compare the actual game itself, as far as side by side comparison wuwa makes genshin impact look like a mickey mouse game.
@@hroki247womp womp wuwa dead
where?? 🤔
I am still waiting for the genshin killer we were promised wuwa to be😂😂
As long as we survive !!
Ww is really following tof footsteps, month after month.
Global numbers, sadly i dont have chinese number for tof launch.
5 months for tof: 67M
5 months for ww: 65M.
6th month from tof: 2.8M
Who will win next?
TOF character banner slow down after more than 2 years, wuwa slow down only after 6 months release lol. kuro really bad at managing resource its seems.
also not to mention wuwa is more expensive to maintance compared to TOF. to be equal to TOF in earnings but need more budget to produce, its really a bad sign tbh.
@@arzurianrein4612 yeah. They must be feeling some pressure
Sensor tower is a scam.
Okay, now you should replied "Cope".
@@Kramer8 Im glad that you know that you are coping. Thats the first step.
@@Kramer8 The fact that that chart now got updated on the website and was basically missing half of WuWa's revenue for September when it was uploaded first is insane.
What is going to the cope now?
If WuWa is such a better game, why people don't spend on it?
Why nobody is playing it?
I can't wait for NTE and Azur Promilia to come out so this game finally dies off along its toxic playerbase that has Genshin rent free in their mind.
I think wuwa is living rent free in your mind bro
@@mlwlan I wouldn't even think about WW if it wasn't the fact you losers have to invade any Hoyoverse media with "WW is better!".
@@mlwlanokay cutie ;)
Wuwa well never die
True and real
You should talk how Kuro botting their app in playstore, legit the app rating jump from 3.8 to 4.9 in 1 night in my playstore which impossible
Ah so mow were on the botting copium
@@mlwlan i mean the revenue speaks for itself :3
@@enryu7886 how is revenue relavant to appstore ratings 😆
@@mlwlan The game has 20k+ reviews at the SAME TIME, unless those 20k+ reviewers planned this and has zoom call or whatever it is to rate wuwa 5 stars at the same time, it's botted 100%
Also there's legit a comment that say wuwa is "MMORPG", if that's not bot then I don't know what it is then
And I know how botted reviewers is more since I familiar with it, one liner reviews is a example of botted reviews
Kuro games, a developer who is too lazy to do an advertising. Now suddenly put an efforts to bot their rating to be relevant. Really smart move since they can use the money to actually advertise...
What kind of copium you smoke? Well i just get jumped by the hoyoshills gtg
This is actually sad lol :)))))
Reverse 1999 beating this let's go
Reverse 1999 is good
why u sounded like reverse 1999 is an underrated game, they deserved the earnings tho
Not anymore 😂
Wuwa actually made more. Sensor tower updated today and wuwa made about 11 million :))
I wouldn't be surprised if WuWa goes EoS before their 2.0 update
Woah Nikke filler arc clears WuWa im actually haply 🤤
@@iampower5547 NIKKE is goated even ignoring the coomer content they could never lose to midwa
@@Kota-sk8sl Even with full coomer design, NIKKE story is far more interesting than wuwa lol. both also has post apocalypse theme. i cant believe kuro f*ck up wuwa this badly.....
This didn’t age well 😂
Wuwa glazers are so funny man.
They even didn't want to admit that Kuro used bots and pait reviewers to upping their app rating in china and in many many playstore lol
Dunno, where are the glazers? I sees the situation more as they just tryna defend thier beloved game from toxic gacha players mostly from genshin.
Two playerbases completed wuwa's, ex-genshin/genshin players or players that came from pgr.
Pgr in fact is one of the most nicest gacha community- leave them alone from the fact that you cant help yourself with getting unnecessary and unwanted attention that would prove useless such as argument or hate from two gachas.
@@rishuraspencer1262 Have you not browse youtube? Its full of wuwa cultists saying shorekeeper is the best thing ever.
Lets think objectively here, shorekeeper is ass, do you agree?
@@Naruchyo-c1v no, next you'll call me kurobot 👍.
Damn, Honkai Impact 3 killer.
Haha nice joke
Honkai 3rd still going strong after 6+ years
And then theres GGZ still ongoing in cn
Crazy that ToF in its prime made way more Wuwa but with 1\4 of wuwa's budget...what happened? Game's not bad and visuals are amazing as well as combat.
TOF is just objectively better.
It's the first "Genshin Killer". It basically rode on Genshin success but failed to meet expectations. Genshin right now, while still huge, it's just not as popular as it used to be
“Genshin killer”
Math.
Please stop coping so hard. Those are facts. I like game. With all these cope doesn't want to accept the truth it is starting get on my nerves and makes me want to uninstall game right away. xdd
Finally a reasonable wuwa player
Imagine believing Sensor Tower as reliable source, couldn't be me.
How low it could get, worse than arknights and reverse 😂😂
get beaten by 2d chibi games, aintnoway
NAHHHHHH, HOLY FLOP
Midering flop is truly over with this one
i love how the best combat game, the most combat of combat still can't defeat AFK game lol.
The problem is they invested too much on combat that they forgot to invest on story aka the selling point of any gacha
AAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH 50 MIL 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Yeah, you're right it did go up, the September revenue is now at 11.5 mil on that site. They updated it. (Edited because went up by another mil again lol)
Is this the rgachaganing yt
WTF HAPPENED TO THEM
FLOPPED LIKE A B***H 🤣
for me neither is better among the two games wuwa with things less good than genshin impact and genshin impact with things less good than wuwa too
love all hoyo games but wuwa is great too btw
@@The6617 the combat is….absolutely nothing else about the game is “great”
visual graphic and combat sure, but we talk about gacha games here. ppl simply want to pull a waifu/husbando and they want to know them better. wuwa just fail in this aspect, almost all wuwa character is just looks pretty but empty inside, they dont even have gimmick to make them looks interesting lol.
😂😂😂😂
Guys this didnt count shorekeepers revenue! Sensor tower cut off at the 25th!
Even so Shorkeeper peak revenue in CN IOS is only 398k xD and it's decreasing to fast
Sep 24 means all of September 2024
@@arifasatria7704 no I was correct or else why did the sensor tower just update the revenue to 10.5 mil today??
@@IzuruKamakura-e6v Ye I misinterpreted what you meant, it got updated to include shorekeeper it seems
@@arifasatria7704 yes like I said it cut off before shorekeepers release basically meaning xiangli yao a free character by himself nearly made 7 mil, imagine how much camellya will make then probably 20 mil which isn't that bad obviously not genshin numbers but good enough.
Cope and seethe wuthering waves is doing fine. Get a job hoyobots
Man, you should come up with new insults. It's pitiful that you only have a few words on your vocabulary.
@@Nyx-xiii cope
@@eliajshdjddjYou just proved his point🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@eliajshdjddj no way you proved his point like that LOL
@@mohammadamaan3140 cope
I don't really see any problems.
Revenue went up to 10.5m and is still increasing due to adjustments with the sensor tower, I absolutely LOVE misinformation
This channel is definitely unbiased and truthfull.
The Wuwa CC claimed 50mil.. 6.75 and 10.5 is still far less than 50, as if it makes any difference. Stop trying so hard for a negligible increase 😂
If its 25mil then yea at least it's half way there, but damm...
@@gachaa_enjoyerno need to be so butt hurt my man. Those guys are neo Genshit Stan’s that wanted hardcore combat in Genshit but didn’t so they moved to WuWa. Don’t apply this to all WuWa community boy 😊
@@gachaa_enjoyer Those wuwa CCs are overhyping the game, wuwa's monetization structure is more consumer-friendly (lower pity, 2 free sequences, 100% weapon banner) and doesn't allow it to surpass Genshin unless it has x1.5-x2 of it's audience; which will never happen. The equivalent to wuwa making 50m would be Genshin making 75-100 - no chance.
Now what is interesting is the inaccuracy of the "data" you use as an "unbiased" journalist. ToF's july revenue was 10m on publicly available revenue reports issued by the company, but sensor tower listed it as 730k. Perfect World and Shift Up have also reported a x4-x10 disparity via publicly available revenue statements issued directly from the company vs the sensor tower reports. Now apply that with the survey sample that indicates there's a 40/60+% split between mobile and PC wuwa players.
I'm just saying as a professional journalist you seem to be very uneducated and lack the ability to critically think, kind of unfortunate for you really but it is what it is I guess.
@@meichung8950 No need to tell me all the calculations, after all, the CC knows that and have taken it into consideration when making the prediction. And as an unbiased channel, we do not tolerate hate here - saying that Wuwa has "no chance" to make 50m is akin to doom posting, your comment is a thinly veiled disguise to promote hate.
Sensor tower only shows mobile revenue, not PC. What's your second point about? Pls get your teacher to review your comment before posting
ah, it's because we've been winning rates and get soft pity. I mean, look at me, i got verina and shorekeepers for 65 pulls, not to mention that i haven't gone explore the map and clear all the quests (finished tower of adversity, as a veteran of dark souls and bloodborne mf ofc). Honestly, WuWa gives me more free time than genshin (which i dropped cuz i can't even play the game peacefully, fr).
Gives you kore free time because it has less content.
You think WW didn't have fomo is mad coping
Also genshin has soft pity as well
Also please don't you ever try to pit dark souls with WW
WW is trash compared to fromsoft game
@@pontoancora i don't like games that has too many contents, i prefer game contents that has the same frequency like arknight and zzz (i uninstall it to play hsr since turn-base is my 1st fav genre of all). It just so happen that WuWa caught my eyes eventho exploration open world gacha is not my cup of tea.
@@huynhquangquan5985 ZZZ is even more frequent in content than genshin.
You need to come out with another excuse, but, still, play whatever you want.
@@pontoancora ok, sorry for asking, but what excuse?
what's the point? comparing a hundred million players to 10 million players🗿
coping hard 🗣
their revenue went from halfed to halved in literal months, this is what happens when wuwa players get to offensive to the genshin community 😂 “lets alienate ourselves from potentially 90% of wuwas playerbase because were so superior”
@@YourDailyOtter don't forget their coping excuse " majority of players is in PC"
Big copium, wrong numbers, Damm you should do better
Guys it's not shorekeeper numbers
Why?
Shorekeeper arrived at 29th September, that already include 2 days of shorekeeper
@@yoyok7609sensor tower cut off on the 25th, it didnt take into account shorekeepers revenue
@@IzuruKamakura-e6v source?
@@fiyibomiolabode you can see in the sensory tower graph, it randomly just cut off at the 25th or something
This video did not aged well😂😂😂
I mean the guy said it will be 50 million even after the update it's still 11 which is still lower than what they made last month
Wuwa still on red with most hyped char that also meta on all teams, not even 11M, meanwhile zzz, the biggest hoyoverse flop in history or thats what wuwabots said, is still with 34M
@@Tilin2461 ah yes lets ignore the fact that september was mostly just XLY banner (a free caracter) and shorekeeper spiked after her release day, you guys are so funny man
@@ranger2325so zhezhi was also free? Thats explains why 15M 🤯
I know kurobot is retrd, but please learn how to use english correctly my guy
The only thing smart players should care about is the quality of the game, not how much it baits you into spending money or preys on your addiction.
Oh, but of course, the true measure of a game's greatness must be how many zeroes are in its revenue, not trivial things like gameplay, story, or whether it’s actually fun. Why bother enjoying the game when you can just enjoy watching it rake in cash, right?
"Joined 8 hours ago" ... created a new alt account just to comment here eh
But yes you're right, the quality of the game matters the most. It also happens that revenue is a reflection of quality like gameplay, story, or whether it's actually fun. After all, it's your words against the others, you might think one game is good, but the majority don't think so, and it is shown here.
@@gachaa_enjoyer majority never gave WuWa a chance. Genshin and HSR have far bigger playerbases. This whole discourse is filled with bad faith arguments and all of you are stupid for fighting instead of appreciating the games for what they are and offer. You can like both Genshin and WuWa, you know?
@@Progeusz- I don't hate any games, and I neither do I play Genshin nor Wuwa, which is why I don't make subjective arguments like "story, gameplay, design", etc. In fact this channel have never compared Wuwa to Genshin in any of the videos but yet somehow many comments assume I play Genshin, interesting..
Numbers shown here and in other videos are publicly available and unbiased, they are literal numbers that show the behaviors of the general player base.
@@gachaa_enjoyer > "created a new alt account just to comment here eh"
Hey, give me a break, will ya? Some RUclipsrs always seem to have a habit of blocking anyone who disagrees with them.
The thing is, I don’t like it when people block me just because they can’t win an argument.
So, I have to go through all the trouble of creating a different account.
Talk about creating an echo chamber.
> "It also happens that revenue is a reflection of quality"
Revenue doesn't necessarily reflect quality, it often reflects how well a game is monetized, not how good it actually is.
Just because something sells well doesn’t make it good. Look at mobile games with aggressive P2W systems, they generate tons of revenue by exploiting players, not because they offer better gameplay, story, or fun.
Popularity doesn’t equal quality, and sometimes the majority is drawn in by manipulative tactics, not superior content.
usually ppl want to spent more if the game is fun and has more value for them. quality also include story, ost and other stuff like making character personality look good and interesting. wuwa only good in graphic and visual, maybe good combat too but its not enough tbh, especially for gacha games. ppl want to pull waifu/husbando to know them better and wuwa fail to deliver this since most of their characters just look pretty but empty inside, theres not even a gimmick to make them look interesting lol, no wonder ppl doesnt care much about wuwa character and dont want to spent more in this game.
Womp womp, still a better game
Its a pc game lol
Edited- sigh hoyoshills need to understand this game sucks in phone. Saying other games are also in pc doesn't make sense. Even ps5 support isnt available in the game
@@SaikatSaha-yk1yq Fun fact Other games also have PC ports not only Wuwa
Fun fact most of the wuwa community plays on pc not Mobile @@chihaotran1568
@@chihaotran1568let them be bro these wuwa player only think their game the only game can be play on PC 😂
@@chihaotran1568let them alienate themselves from genshin players 😂 its not gonna hurt us or genshins revenue lmao, a supposedly hype ass female “waifu” cant even defeat an afk game 🗣 graphics is nice but it doesnt hide the bad story and selling too much females there’s literally only been 2 limited male 5* in this whole ass time, it just goes to show that wuwa only releases characters that appeals man childs into pulling another “mommy” character
>Channel name “gacha enjoyers”
>look at the channel
>most of the video is about hating on wuwa and barely talk about other game you can enjoy
@@pizzaman3985 because of so many wuwa glazer ccs lately. Someone needs to tell the truth
Hate is telling the truth about it's falling revenue and copy drama, sure
@@Tilin2461yeah but for a channel name gacha enjoyer it feel a bit misleading only talking about negative thing everytime instead of enjoying other game to
@@pizzaman3985well channel name is indeed anything but a gacha enjoyer
Or maybe he is a true gacha enjoyer, the real one that doompost x game because why not
This is so stupid.
A company which loves their players. Showers them with ingame currency very f2p friendly, gives a limited 5 star for free sacrificing its monthly income, QoL updates to make our experience better.
And people still hate. I love all gacha games. All the Hoyoverse games too but now im not interested because they give less free pulls to secure a character. Hoyoverse is gonna win every gacha revenue, its gonna be genshin topping hsr and it topping zzz and vice versa.
But fighting over this is very childish and immature. Wuwa is doing great and i already see people hating and saying its gonna meet EoS which far from true.
Judging a gacha games survival solely on its monthly is dumb.
do you understand that companies want money right?
if WuWa continues bleeding profit, Kuro will start to cut costs to maximize it, and that will affect game quality in the future.
dont't run from the truth
@@cypureisreallybusy Kuro does not love its players. It gave y’all great combat with the rest of the game being complete garbage and then threw some free wishes at you to keep you gambling and distracted. Every time someone says Kuro loves their players I cringe bruh, they didn’t even bother to give you a good game and you endlessly glaze them for a standard banner selector…for characters you’re going to get when you lose 50/50s anyway. Guaranteed sig weapon isn’t even good bc all the free weapons except for the two cr standard weaps and variation are absolutely garbage, so you’re almost forced to pull weapon ESPECIALLY on dps and supports with how hyper specific their buffs and passives are.
So tell me exactly why you think Kuro loves their players?
@@TheAdorelis sure. tell me how is PGR still active it's showed have hit EoS by your logic right?
@@Kota-sk8sl who hurt you? Your the type of guy who would d ride genshin just because they removed one fate point from the weapon banner. They are stingy and admit it.
@@Kota-sk8sl because of the QoL. They read the feedback from players. Unlike genshin. They are improving the game. Can't you see it? If your still blind and don't believe that kuro love it's players there's something wrong with you. I'm sorry.
Genshin fans talk about about things which has nothing to do with what the game is offering and console themselves. Wuthering Waves is a better a game and it will be.
This is why Genshin has below 4 ratings and WuWa has 4.9 ratings.
Bro2
How many ppl rate wuwu?
141k 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Genshin 4million ppl review
30x fold 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@aorusuki2374 188k, if the game was bad it would have been rated lower buddy not higher. Having near 200k reviews and maintaining 4.9 is no joke.
Ahh yes, the rating where all the 1 star suddenly went missing.
But go on, hold on to your dear internet ratings.
@@52_Ronin it is miniscule my friend.
👌👌👌👌
@@Naruchyo-c1v Look again i saw enough hate, i could have shared you screenshot but RUclips doesn't have any feature
Glazing a billion dollar company money that you will never see in your life is lowlife behaviour. How about we compare the actual game itself, as far as side by side comparison wuwa makes genshin impact look like a mickey mouse game.
@@hroki247 do you wuwa shills actually believe this? With that dead, empty, lifeless, boring world? The terribly written story that’s just constant rover glaze? The trash music (I mean seriously dreamless is the only good ost in the game)? With all the huge patches of the overworld that have zero chests/puzzles/enemies? Like other than combat and character design what do you specifically think is ACTUALLY good about wuwa?
Man, i left genshin on 2.2 and after playing wuwa i literally thought on coming back because it wasn't that bad
Wuwa on the other hand, wuwa has one of the worst writting i have seen on my entire life, makes isekai smartphone look like a good plot because even that anime makes some sense
Random aliens spawned from nowhere, people with superpowers, scifi thats also fantasy/wuxia with brainless characters that only exist to simp self insert rover, harembait, its so patetic
Not even the autorun worked, insane stuttering, ugly character designs, the same copypasta genshin exploration, stamina bullshit when climbing, resin system but way worse, no house building, no fishing, no cards, no weekly boss coop, ugly coop with 1 char, max 3 players
4 years of difference between genshin and wuwa launch, they learned nothing
@@Kota-sk8sl Of course a mickey mouse enjoyer wants colorful pallete worlds. A post apocalyptic world with bright color palletes, then your brain will shut off when playing fall out. Funny how you shills complain its a genshin copy but complain that it doesnt have the same bright pallete as GI.
@@Tilin2461 I experienced the same wirh Genshin, what now?
@@hroki247 did I ever mention color palette? No. “Dead, empty, lifeless, boring world” refers to the GIANT patches of the map that legitimately have had nothing in them since launch. It refers to the copy and pasted buildings all around the sea of flames and across the entire map. You do not need bright colors to make a post apocalyptic theme work, nor did I ever ask for it or even mention it: fallout and tons of other games have successfully done this years ago.
It’s funny how you kuroshills consistently have to bring up points nobody ever mentioned because you are completely incapable of arguing the points people make.
Haha my gacha game of choice is earning more than your gacha game which means i am the better and superior person than you
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Nah tectone video change the revenue. Eat another L and your Reverse69 game
content that Hoyobot likes, but unfortunately no one wants to subscribe.
content that kurobot always come and watch the video just to get trigger 😂
ToF killer