7MM MAG vs 300 WIN MAG vs FLOUR!!! 💥💥💥
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You didn't mention that in the back of the third bag there was a small tear the bullet exited the third bag but it didn't touch the fourth. In the 300 Win Mag you're using 180 grain bullet versus 150 grain bullet. If you would have used 175 grain in the 7 mm Remington you would have got similar results.
Those bags must be some tougher paper because i was expecting a big cloud of flour. We need the .50 bmg
With a « Javelin » too... with a « Tomahawk » too... 😂 With a 22LR ... No ! But was it the comparaison, in the video ??? 😉 No.,,
@@marshalane6917 well glad you like it 😀
I think the rip in the 4th bag of flour on the .300 Win Mag shot was just the result of energy transfer, not the bullet actually entering the 4th bag. I think you would have found the bullet in the third bag.
My paps has been a die hard 300 win mag guy since 1973 when he bought his Winchester model 70. He hasn't used another hunting rifle since
The 300 fell between the slats. If you watch the video in slowmo you can see it fall.
The 7mm did the same you see it in the slow motion too if you look for it
I saw it!!
@@josephtroyan1283 i seen it too.
I sawed too!
3:24 and 7:05
'All purpose flour' serves one more purpose than what they intended.😁
Hmm couldn't find the bullet from 300 in the flour did it really penetrate the 4th bag or was it the force of the flour impacting the bag. there was alot of flour on the front of that bag which was given a big push.
My thoughts on the first test with the 7mm is the bullet tumbled and came out the sideways so missed the 4th bag.
Might be worth doing the test again and have a kitchen sieve in hand. In the names of science and entertainment.
Nah. No waste
In both instances, you can see something bounce off the fourth bag and fall on the pallet.
3:16
7:04
i agree the 7mm went out the side. never touching the 4 the bag.
That’s a great observation! I was thinking the same thing. Next time probably put the bags of flour together and tape them so they don’t move.
The problem is you used Walmart flour and everyone knows that Walmart flour is 90% powdered drywall
So THATS what's wrong with my bread!!🥴
And the other 10% is cricket flour.
So that's why i poop candy canes?
In the slow mo looks like the 300 bullet was tumbling out of the back.
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Looks likje the 7mm did also
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We don't seem to have a lot of destructive invasive wild bags of flour roaming around here in Texas so I will stick to 7.62x39 for the hogs we do have , but if we do get invaded by bags of flour it looks like either 7mm mag or 300 Win. mag will both get the job done.
7.62x39mm will be awesome to see.
Using a SKS too...
For next time , place a 1lb container of tanerite in the bag and then place a road flair behind the bag and hold on for one heck of a fireball !!
good test but it would have been more equal if the 7mmRM had a heavier grain bullet.
179 grain
Almost got ya a scope eye with the 300
He does tend to hold a bit limply.
When I used to work in kitchen l remember the chef telling me how combustible flour is, after watching this it seems pretty bulletproof too.
That's how you make some high caliber biscuits.
Should have placed a water jug between the bags to mix those biscuits.
Biscuits with the 300 win maaaaagggg
At least you did not spend a lot of " bread " on this vid.
150 7mm gets my vote even though it doesn't have as much powder but a smaller bullet.
The lighter bullet in the 7mm will have a lower sectional density than a heavier bullet in the 7mm. It may travel slower but it will penetrate deeper. I believe the advantage the .300 would have in a test like this is that larger bullets are available for the .300 than the 7mm. To match the sectional density of the longer 7mm bullet the .300 must use a longer bullet resulting in a much heavier bullet.
When, not if, bags of flour come after me and I need to take up arms against them - it's gonna be with the 300 Win Mag
In 1970 I bought a Savage 110DL in 7mm Ram Mag. Love it, and it’s a tack driver which shoots better than I do. I am a southpaw (Someone on another channel said I shouldn’t call myself a lefty in certain circles.) and that was the only left-handed bolt action available at the time. I was really ticked off when i took it into a gun shop in the 80s for a small issue and the clerk said not to spend too much money on it.
Anyhow energy is proportional to the square of velocity and momentum is proportional to the velocity. If a bullet hits its target with the same energy as another heavier one, it will give up more of its energy at lesser penetration. In a more complex target like a game animal this will prevent over penetration. I noticed in the water jug video that the 300 Win Mag bullet had come apart. Weight retention of the bullet is also critical in the stopping power of the round.
It may have skipped out to the right of bag #4 due to its trajectory. The 300 win was more of a center shot which gave it an unfair advantage. I think it warrants a rematch!!
Should has sifted the flour he didn't check it all.
A good suggestion would be to compare the 7mm 300 and 338. If you are able to find the right bullets the 7mm should be a 160 grain a 300 should be a 180 grain and a 338 should be a 225 grain bullet. If you pull the bullets from the case you’ll see their the same length jusy about which gives them theoretically the same penetrating capability with diameter of the hole being only difference. But that’s something to suggest anyway awesome video awesome channel
Simply the 300 Winchester Magnum is hard to beat. I'm thinking it's the Best all around Caliber.!!! Hard ta change my mind.!!! 🤔
I like my .338 mag
Would never try n change your mind on that, lol
@@ejakathebeast 338 lapua is king
Have you watched the paper plate and cinder block video? The 7mm magnum penetrated 18 more plates at 441 and annihilated a cinder block and blew it completely off of the table but the 300 only blew it apart and didn't even knock it off of the table
I've hunted with a 7mm rem mag for 33 years, and a .300 win mag for over 20 years, I shoot 140 grain bullets in the 7mm and 150 grain bullets in the .300, I live in LA where the the bag limit on deer is pretty liberal, 6 deer per year so as you can imagine I've killed a lot of deer with both rounds. I can tell you the difference between the two as a general rule of thumb on deer, Most shots with 7 mm the deer that aren't dropped usually run on average 20-50 yards, with the .300 most deer make it about 3 feet straight down lol! Of course there's always exceptions to everything, shot placement is key of course. I like to shoot bonded bullets with a mixture of lead and copper, in these thickets and briar jungles where we hunt even a 50 yard blood trail sucks without a good exit hole, If I lived in areas of the country where thick cover to them is like open woods to us then I wouldn't be that picky about bullets, but down here I always want a good exit hole, that's why I don't shoot solid copper, they will penetrate just about anything wich is wonderful, but they have dime size exit holes at best, wich ain't worth a flip in a briar thicket! Personally I load accubonds and trophy bonded bear claws, and in my lower velocity guns like .308 I don't mind a little bit softer bullet like a winchester deer season xp, or the sierra gamekings and even those powerpoints like you used in the video, to me those bullets are just fine in velocities at 2800 fps and lower. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth! One thing about shooting those lower weight bullets in the 7 mag and the .300, recoil is minimal.
Every shot I've made with a 7mm mag dropped in its tracks. I've never had to chase any. I've shot elk with a 243 and I've never had to chase them down either. Most times they stumble 8 to 10 yards and drop dead
it's obvious that the 7 Mag exited out the side of the 3rd bag of flower.
7mm is good round to build onto a 300 sniper stock, it feeds through 300 magazines without any issues and is lighter recoil and a little bit flatter trajectory, only thing you sacrifice is some energy.
thank you for doing what you do it's interesting to see how different calibers compare in nontraditional targets
I would have thought that you would have sifted that flour to find some bullet fragments!
Actually I noted Paul's guess too, and thought 'Yep, 3 bags !" Correct on one incorrect on the second.
That was fun.
Good video now try a 7 mm ultra magnum and a 300 ultra magnum
Cool vid man, crazy thought, take a couple bags of flower, wrap them around a thing of tanerite and watch the flower fly lol.
Add a road flare nearby for a fireball.
I’ve done this. It’s pretty cool. Flour didn’t catch on fire, but it showed the mushroom from the explosion pretty well.
Don't forget the can of gas
U spelled flour wrong
Thanks for the video now when are we having cake? LOL!!!! And how about a 22 shoot off with the flour?
And now I'm getting hungry for some fresh baked bread )))
you should have look for the bullet of the 300.. if you look at the 7MM it went off to the side, your placement shot was not centered..
Flower, when spread/sprayed, can explode if ignited, like a coal dust.
Should use maybe incendiary round against flower next time ;-)
You should put eggs, butter & milk in front of a bag of flour & make instant biscuits lol.
And a heated fry pan behind.
Fantastic answer! I saw this dish on a Chef Ramsey show called Beef Wellington, steak wrapped in a crispy flour crust. They said it was really good, but I've never had it - it's not like cattle hunting is a thing, nor should it be. _But flour hunting was something I'd completely overlooked plus they say that the secret is all in the crust!_ I'm going to have to check and see if I need a license for flour and find out what the bag limit is - I may get lucky enough to try that Beef Wellington for myself. Thanks for another outstanding video! 👍
Why two bullet weights. Doesn’t make these trials the same.
Usually compare the best of favorite load used in each caliber.
To get a real comparison you have to use bullets with similar sectional densities. This means for a 7MM caliber this would be a 160 grain bullet, SD is .283, and for 30 caliber this would be a 180 grain bullet, SD is .271.
@@nmelkhunter1 Wow, I am impressed.
Russell Keeling Thank you.
Jorge Solis You have to use sectional density (SD) as your common denominator, not weight. Since bullets are used to penetrate matter, SD is the important factor for comparing bullets.
Use the flower to cover up a Tannerite Target. Here in Georgia I can buy Tannerite at Ace Hardware so it's pretty easy to find here your mileage may vary.
I just got me a .357 sig barrel for my .40 s&w xdm & I'm going to shoot it tomorrow. I cannot wait.
Andrew Martinez do you live near Cincinnati? Cause I mistakenly bought .357 sig 50 rounds and have no need for them.
@@bry4christ2nda25 no. Unfortunately. I live in New Mexico.
Good luck with 357sig. Good option hard find ammo. Why i like my 40s&w
The 357Sig is has about the same recoil as the .40. It seems a little bit snappier to me though .
I was just wondering what advantage you might see in the sig over the 40.
3:25 you can see the first one tumbling as it exits the third bag and flies just to the right and past the big bag
Nah, 7:04 the bullet bounced off the 4th bag and fell to the pallet between the 3rd and 4th.
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I think it would be a tie if the 7 mil would not have exited to the right. I think you pulled the trigger to the right. That is just my humble opinion.
Great to see you guys still having fun...
Better shot placement would be required for a true test. If the 7mm came out of 3rd bag, it would have been in 4th bag if a better shot
You could have used a 160 or 170 grn. bullet for the 7mm . Making them more equal. The 7mm 150gr. would have reached major expansion deflecting it to the right out of the 3rd bag. Would have hit the 4th like the 300 win mag. did. I feel their very close in capability.
Sorry, but you are wrong. Using a 160 grains bullet in the 7mm would require a 190 grains bullet in the .300. What matters when comparing different bullets in different calibers is called "form factor". Form factor is often misused instead ofergonomic but its true meaning is in ballistics. In this instance, using bullets from different calibers that are very similar in sectional density primarily and to a lesser extent, shape, i.e; boatail, spitzer, etc.... (they share similar form factors) FYI. A 170 grains bullet in 7mm, without getting too technical is closer to a 195 grains bullet in .30 caliber. The bullets used in the video aside from sharing similar form factors also are the most popular chambered by manufacturers respectively. The choice of bullets in this video is what is called an "apples to apples comparison". Perfect choices.
Your first one, the 7mm, in the slow motion segment,, you can see the bullet tumbling, which would be off to the right, very cool, beside and behind the last bag of flour, like a tiny tornado
Awesome video, love the. 300
Great video. Would love to see a 4 rifle shoot out. 270 + 7mm08 + 308 + 6.5 cm
Add the 260 Remington to list
This is a surefire way to antique the hell out of your range!
A 160 grain Nosler Partion 7mm is the same sectional density as a 180 grain Nosler Partition 30 caliber. Try that to be fair!!!
Nice guns. Dads 7 mag always knocked the slobbers out of me. Hhaa. Great video
Put the flour in a semicircle around a big jug of an explosive target.
Biscuits and gravy please lol
Way back in 1986, I was shopping for a good deer rifle. I had my eye on a Remington 7mm Mag. But, I had to consult an expert... My Dad.
He had me to compare prices on a 7mm Mag ammo compared to a .270 Remington ammo.
I still hunt with that .270 Remington today. I've put a lot of deer in the freezer with that rifle.
@The Weapon Collection My Grandma gave me a .30-30 Winchester for my 14th birthday. I have NEVER lost a deer that I hit with that rifle. I love it in the thick stuff!
Have a lit flare next to the flour when you shot it. You'll see a nice fireball explosion.
Great video WTW, I figured the 7mm rem mag may have went a little further due to the difference in bullet weight? Oh well, it is what it is. Outstanding slow mo as well. Thank you sir.🤘🏽
Keep in mind, while that 150 grn may have higher initial speeds, it'll slow down WAY faster than a 180 grn at the same velocity.
I've been watching this guy for a while but the moment he said Boyd's stock and Nikon optics..... subscribe
With all that flour, make some peach pies. Uh huh!
Sounds good! 🍑
I will use that 7mm mag the next time I'm hunting a trophy loaf of bread and the 300 win mag when I hunt the dangerous Alaskan biscuit lol
Hahaha just having fun thx for the video
I seen both bullets... the first(7MM Mag) came out the third bag and bounce right off the fourth at around 3:15 and the .300 Win Mag went into the fourth bag and then came back out around 7:04
Well see! Yup i think we see the round twirling behind the 4th and last bag.
Maybe they should have tried to find part in the 3rd bag for the .300, maybe it was about the same thing or " energy blows" tearing the back.
Shoot the flour with
the 50 BMG ! 👍
44 mag... 45 acp... 357 flour challenge 😎👍
Thanks for the comparison. At one time the 7mm Rem Mag was used by the Secret Service Counter Sniper teams.
Bullets probably fragmented but next time might try a sifter of fine screen drainer
Hooray for the 300 WM. My hunting round of choice !!
a saw both tumble out the back right side and great video!!
The 7mm mag bullet fell out of the third bag and fell beneath the pallets.
175 grain 7 and a 180 grain 300 would have been a fairer match these two calibres are a pretty close match
So it would be safe to assume that your a 300 Winchester magnum, guy ha ha ha
@@cain2655 7rem mag and 30-06 guy
Its an old trick, but if you wanna check bullet expansion on hunting ammo then go get yourself a BIG block of raw unprocessed soap to shoot.. should be brown and a bit greasy.. unprocessed, nothing added to it.. and cut it in two to get a more realistic wound cavity than ballistics gel.. and then you can just melt it back down after and pour it into another block mould and shoot it again..
Both are some serious rifles!!
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And the 300 kills deer ! Shot one in C T and it hit way harder than my 270. Even I was like 🥴. But no tracking . Be safe. 🇺🇸
Great video I love watching you shoot stuff
Appreciate you watching Tim!
I guess that’s really ALL PURPOSE flour! Keep up the good work!
🤪🤪🤪 thanks for watching!
Awesome video as always!
as far as I know, 7mm was the original modern cartridge that the armed forces developed for sniping
Fun stuff gents. Back in early 90s we were given a bunch of flour that had weevils. I had my 7mmRemMag & was sure this would make a huge white cloud. It didn't. It just tore a big hole through back. But a 75gr. Sierra HP from a 243 was much more dramatic. Try hitting 1 bag with a light fast round & move up to a big heavy slow HP. It would be interesting to catch on slow mo.
Hey, I've been through McMinnville a few times. 3 years ago we visited Cumberland Caverns. Have always loved that part of the world.
Would not have guessed that result. Very cool.
Is that still joint compound on the 300? 🤣
At 7.05 on the left you can see the round tumbling through the air AWESOME😋😀😃😄
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Both caliber are deadly and both popular
Great target idea!!!
You can see the bullets spiraling out the back on both slow mo shots, they are leading the cloud of flour.
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Love my 300 XBolt win mag enjoyed the vid 👍🔥🦅
Hope no chef watches this video 😂😂😂
Or no bakers?
I bet that if you used a Nosler partition or a Barnes TTSX in both rifles the bullets would penetrate the last bag too. In my experience Power Points just don’t hold up very well at magnum velocities.
Now I want some biscuit and gravy! Lol
Wheat farmers will really like this video, flour replaces ballistic gel!
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I bet that flour is bulletproof
Two awesome belted magnums
What I think happened was the bullets stopped a one bag before the last holed bag and the bags bulged making a tear in the one behind.
I honestly thought both would be more destructive
Thanks 😊
The flower test was pretty cool, good information to know
7.62x39mm from a SKS will be awesome to see.
Try the 165 grain 7 mm . A little closer in size to compare, yes, money is as sways an option, still fun
Like 7mm rem mag great for dusting feral pigs 300y on wheat field at night with a spotlight but has a bit of muzzle flash, 243 a bit nicer all round not so hard on the shoulder if shooting from a vehicle.
JC Hollis - been shooting my Remington BDL 7mm rem mag 147gr for over 25 years and is very accurate even at long range. Early on installed a Sims butt pad and took 50% off of felt recoil. Way better shooting results by not being distracted waiting for the heavy recoil.
Still don't know why in a comparison video, he doesn't use a rest?
Itd hard for him to slam his gun down in frustration when hemisses if it's in a rest
Flour is pretty dense. Wonder how it would react if it is moist?
This is awesome!After shootin',we can make homemade biscuits n gravy(part 2)
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Shoot the flower with some added tannerite. That should make a big cloud. Lol
If you shoot enough of those, this video might make you a lot of dough.
Lone Wolf here, I really thought that the 300 m. Would have penetrated all the bags. That was surprising results!
Yup!!!
I would like to see a comparison between the .270 WSM, 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.8 Western.
Hunting bullets doing what they should, dumping all there energy 6 inches in with expansion
The small holes 3-4 bags in is just fragments making there way through so in summary both great game hunting cartridges