Do you need 32 GB of RAM for PC gaming in 2020?
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2020
- Is there any point getting more than 16 GB of RAM for gaming? Do you need 32 GB of RAM for PC gaming in 2020? Can you even use all 32 GB of RAM for gaming? Many questions in today's video.
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Do you think the next generation of consoles is going to mean that games start using more RAM? Let me know what you think!
Have you tried Forza Horizon 4 or Astroneer ?
Nope. Both next gen consoles have 16GB GDDR6 which is shared between application and video memory.
@@baroncalamityplus Yeah, that's also what I was thinking. They do have a very fast memory interface, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out.
still stuck with 8gb!
i've got 32 gigs in my system right now, but i still somehow manage to fill it up on a daily basis, i plan on upgrading to 64 gigs in a couple of weeks to see if that helps.
I'm only watching this so I can hear Dawid say "thidy two" as much as possible
Yeah it's so funny that he says thidy instead of thirty
I think that's why we're all here
all i can hear was titty two
Hahaha!! I genuinely thought I said it normally this time. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Normal for you and that's what we like!
It isn't the game that requires 16 gigs,
It is the chrometab running in the background whilst you game that bottlenecks you.
Realistically yeah, if you have a few chrome tabs, streaming, discord, it does add up. But "need" is a strong word.
@@oGPhoenixo You definitely need at least 16 gigs of ram in this day and age. Back when GTA 5 came out I was still rocking 8 gigs, GTA 5 and Discord alone would consume all of it and it severely impacted GTA's performance.
I have on average 30-40 tabs open at all times, and I never close my web browser haha. Although, even if I only had 16 gigs, it really wouldn't matter too much as computers are pretty good at moving data between memory and virtual ram based on what you are doing at any given time. Maybe if you are using a hdd that could be an issue, but I think it's safe to say the majority of people at least have an ssd nowadays. It really only impacts you if you are needing to use more then 16 gigs at once. Having tabs open in the background while you game won't actually impact you, it would simply be offloaded to your virtual ram space if you need more ram for what you are doing and only retrieved when needed. If you had programs actively running in the background while you game, that would be an issue. But web browsers aren't actively running in the background as much as they are just static and there, resting and not actually needed to be loaded in system ram while waiting for you access them.
@@gerble36 i cant even fathom needing 30-40 tabs open. i get more than 5 and i get annoyed finding the one i want.
@@gerble36 I actually notice a significant performance-drop in CoD Warzone when I leave Firefox open in the background with 16GB of Ram and it's really annoying having to close my browser while I'm playing. I even experience more crashes when I forget to close it.
You don’t need 32Gb but you’ll definitely benefit from it. Not in terms of fps but for the overall user experience; less stuttering, more smoothness, just a better experience overall.
It's a shame people don't understand the difference between benchmarks and user experience. The only way you can show someone the difference is by using their current system with 16GB and then upgrading to 32GB.
@@SiCSpiT1 I'm late to the party here but I've noticed so many weird "benchmark" videos where the creator concludes that because of framerates there's no difference in performance when you can see with your eyeballs that one is significantly visibly smoother than the other.
@@K.C-2049 I remember one of the guys from Hardware Unboxed answering a subscriber question about 'who would benefit more from having 32GB of RAM between casual and competitive players,' the one with the darker hair, I forget his name, said something to the affect of, ‘Well, if you’re a competitive player you’ll turn down settings and close programs for the lowest latency and casual players won’t notice the extra latency/ benefit from the lower latency.’ As if there’s no one in between, who sweat it out during the latest COD release and enjoy RPGs in the summer.
The main issue is, as of yet, there’s no way to objectively measure user experience with repeatable results, while ensuring the exclusion of confirmation bias and user error. The only thing we can agree on is higher framerates for gaming and everything else is lost to subjective experience if it can’t fit into bar charts. You’ll notice most tech channels only recommend what you ‘need’ to reach the typical framerates, at a given resolution, relative to the capability of a GPU. Because of this I’ve see posts online from goofballs with specs like: r5 5600G, 16GB RAM, 4090; Asking if they should upgrade the CPU and memory after upgrading to a 4090 since they only play games at 4k. Even better yet many of the comments mindlessly state that it’s not worth it because there’s little to no FPS to be gained. Not, "you idiot, you've just burned at least $1600 on a GPU. What's an extra $200 going to hurt?" or "If you can afford a 4090 to day, why did you put it in a $500 budget when it was new?"
What I find ridiculous is how there’s only a vocal minority able to square this circle and notice that, in the US market, gaming PCs over a $1000, let alone a single component, are existing the “all you need” territory and are entering a compromise reduction connoisseur domain. You either get the click bait “console killer” or the >$5000 envy builds. Very few are willing to stick their neck out, at least in the techtube sphere, and draw a line and say a system with 6 cores, 16GB RAM, on a $100 motherboard isn’t good value at $2000, you’re being a cheap ass not frugal, or at worst scammed. If you’re forced to use a USB splitter on your brand new $1800 desktop, you got played.
Let’s be honest, we all got 32GB of RAM just for the Task Manager.
yep
Nope, I got 4 sticks in 32 GB (4x8) because I plan to get a 5900x and a 3080 Strix or Tuf (or a 3080 TI since January is next month). Reason? 4 sticks instead of 2 sticks will give you increased performance on Ryzen 5000 series.
@@BlazeNarutoShippuden why not get 64?
@@raawesome3851 64 is for designing, doing rendering, or using multiple applications at once. So there is no need for that. 32 GBs is the medium that you need. 16 is just for gamers but they should really go to 32 GBs. Getting more sticks is always better than going for faster times.
All slots filled 😁
Things are changing... Was used to play games with 32 kb, a while ago. 8-)
If I'm not mistaken, that would mean they were DOS based games
Sed boomer
@@perorocino1653 no one says boomer anymore
@@crispy8038 ok boomer
@@onelifefitness7489 ok virgin
A 16 vs 32 comparison for tarkov would have been cool to see how big of an effect a ram shortage of 600mb has on performance
We have to keep in mind that the operating system and any other background-running tasks have to use some of that ram, so the difference is more than 600mb.
Your humor and ways of going about things is so entertaining and funny. I really appreciate your wholesome personality
Use case for 32 gigs of RAM: Play a game while streaming, monitor the stream on a second monitor, have Chrome open on a third monitor... Then edit the stream afterward to post to RUclips while watching RUclips and using Chrome.
Really, just using Chrome can need more than 16 gigs sometimes.
My son is usually watching RUclips on Chrome (with about 40 tabs open, including a few Reddit threads with too many memes), while playing a game like Civ 6 or Hearts of Iron 4. I have to avert my eyes.
Exactly. If you use your computer for anything else and don't want to close everything before playing a game, 32 is better. Though I still do it with 16. Having SSDs also hides a lot of the memory swapping in background.
Try Linux
I agree, I went for 32 GB in my system because I'll watch a stream or netflix on my second monitor in Chrome while playing like Runescape or FFXIV or World of Warcraft.
@@remytv If you have memory swapping with 16 much less 32 gigs... Your PC has other problems. JSing...32 gig user here and its more than I need.
I'll be coming back when 32gb ram is the sweet spot, just like I did to videos where people talked about 16gb being overkill lol
*Person showing off the first computer* "One day I predict there will be about 7 of these!"
Well I did acknowledge it wasn't necessary right then and unsurprisingly I ended up with a new system long before I ever needed 16GB of ram.
Though yes, more than 16GB will be the recommended at some point. I just couldn't accurately say when that'll be.
Then you'll have 64GB flexes happening.
@@ArtisChronicles
At this point we have 128GB ram flexes going on :P
well... we would have ddr5 sometime soon.. so yeah.. probably 32gb will become more greater
You're assuming your running game is the only thing hogging RAM. Your system and other background apps need some breathing space too!
Try leaving a few Chrome tabs open and launching Halflife Alyx or Star Citizen at the same time, we'll see :) or maybe you like to close everything you multitask on everytime you start a game?
32GB is the current sweetspot between cramped and over-futureproof, especially if you're building a new system, we're upgrading later would leave you with 2x8 + 2x?? In your 4 slots (4x8 would be wasted potential at this point in time)
I’m so glad you mentioned EFT, it is notorious for eating RAM like candy and is literally the only reason I have 32gb of RAM.
Thanks Dawid, that was very informative.
are you gonna do a sequel, like "Do you need 8+cores for PC gaming in 2020?" I think that would be pretty useful.
That sounds awesome. I will see if I can get my hands on a high core count CPU and then take it from there. 👍
@@DawidDoesTechStuff You Should Ask AMD or a Local Supplier for a full set of 3000 CPUs, even if you could just borrow them would be great
@@shaneeslick That's a great idea. I should actually email and ask.
8c vs 6c in Vr? 👀 (vrchat?)
u need cpu compatible with your gpu, u can pair 16 core cpu with 1050 and get fps of 1050, that’s how it works
Dawid: Implies having "thiddy-two" gigs means you're compensating for "something".
Also Dawid: *Immediately confirms he's compensating for something* 👍🤣
Hahaha!! Exactly. Im glad you picked up on that. 😂
It all comes out in group. I’m running 64 GB :(
@@user_16309 over over over over compensating for something
@@QueenCece6 touche
Paired with a Gravis card from Tech Yes City and you're all set.
Dawid does tech stuff and i watch David doing tech stuff
Thankfully I don't have to answer that question - the software and workflow I use for my job is RAM intensive, 16GB was always slugish and barely usable, going to 32GB has literally been night and day for work.... and I have it for gaming too :)
Omg he just made this video to flex his thiddy two gigs of RAM *we got a badass over here* 🤣🤣🤣
I know right! Pulling a Linus over here.
I got 32gb ram... on a laptop
@@DawidDoesTechStuff lmaO
I’m 9 and I got a intel i7 100700 and 32 gb of ram
Proud owner of 2gb ram
The good thing about mediumly big channels like you is because you’re just big enough to still be able to interact with most comments and makes the realation between viewer and creator much stronger, but this kind of channels usually don’t have a massive budget to do anything that goes through their head for a video. Been here since 50k and i hope you get much bigger, love your vids
rip interactions
Love your videos. If youtube hadn't thrown you in my face for 2 weeks while watching Jay, Steve and Linus I never would have seen you, so I guess the algorithm works sometimes.
Thank you for this. I was looking at doing a build here soon and was thinking if going 32 gig just under the thought of future proofing to a degree
Jeez someone get this man a sponsor, he really deserves it. love your content man
Cities Skylines: I'll take your whole stock of RAM
Truee :D sometimes it takes nearly 28gb
@@sebastianpurczynski3885 lmaoll! Indeeeeeeeedddddd! i only had 16gb of ram, and I used 2k assets and 60 mods whilst my pc can't handle it anymore 😂bcoz it used 28gb lol!! When I only had 16 lol.
My computer just randomly shut down by itself lmaoo😂and I couldn't open my pc and I had to wait for 1-3days to work again lol😂😢
For me 48GB. It‘s so badly optimized for +100k citizens.
@@CowMowTV ikr, i reluctantly bought another 32 gbs
@@sudochmodx3752, i will buy 64 in my new PC, just because of the Cities: Skylines optimization.
Daily driving and playing a game I see my ram usage get to 14gb so I am very happy with my 32gb setup. Especially since I could be playing a game and watching videos and having multiple tab opens
In escape from tarkov, to my knowledge if u restart the game between changing maps, it really does help with using less ram. I think the game saves the maps to ram, and when u restart the game it only loads the one map ure playing. It also helps with bugs and performance overall.
Or you can shell out an extra $60 and make your computer wait on you instead of the other way around.
Thanks! I just downloaded some additional 16GB's of RAM just to be sure!
I just recently rebuilt my system a few months ago, I had the extra capitol so I threw 32 gigs into it. Not because I thought I would need it now, but that I would eventually in the future. And since ram is cheap right now I figured it would make sense to do it while I was already building and spending money anyway.
I have a gaming PC I built back in 2012 with 16 gb ram and a 3770k. I found that in recent months, I would start to run out of memory frequently with all of my apps open and would even sometimes get crashes. A big culprit was Chrome memory hogging when I had alot of tabs open and/or having the app running for too long. Only gaming I really do is WoW and old stuff.
To my surprise, I found that despite it being ancient, the motherboard is able to support up to 32 gb ram so I spent $100 on a kit. The thing runs amazing now, like new. I think that this upgrade will give me a number more years out of the computer. Happy about my purchase.
That laugh. Lol. You just made my night.
Probably best to go about a test like this with multiple resolutions. RAM use would undoubtedly be higher when running 1440p or 4K.
Indubitably
I only have 16 Gigs of RAM and this video made me realize I will be fine for a while
For sure. Unless you are really into Microsoft Flight Simulator. 😅
If you ever decide to start running VMs you might be thankful for extra ram :p
In all seriousness though, you'll probably see upgrades elsewhere before you ever start needing more ram for gaming.
@@ArtisChronicles yeah probably gonna be when 8 cores is the norm for gaming cpus
@@ArtisChronicles I can confirm. I'm a software tester, and often go right to the limit of my 16GB with all the IDEs, databases and terminals I need to have open. I don't really need 32GB, but I would if the project was a bit bigger, and I'm extremely glad I have 16GB.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff is
2 16 gigs
better than just
1 32 gig?
I think a follow up video running benchmarks with background tasks running is worthwhile. 32 gigs might seem overkill for just a game but what about 30 chrome tabs, discord, icue, synapse, and any other choice program running in the background.
Except Chrome there is not such a Ram Eater
Maybe 2 gb
You da man, Dawid!
I plan on building a new PC after 8 years of using my current one which originally only had 8 GB's but upgraded to 16 GB's a couple years ago, gonna go with 32 GB's mainly as a future proof so I won't have to do it later down the line.
go 64. your welcome :)
Yes if you current has 16 and you start all new then obviously going for same 16 looks like no upgrade but platform change only lol
I got 32gb because of the recommended specs for flight simulator
was about to make the same comment,just bought 2 more sticks ;) can't wait,looks awesome!
It might use above 16gb but I would like to see under what scenario it does.
Not saying that you won't benefit from having 32 or more, just want to know what would use this much ram. Is 16 not enough to load all of the necessary textures on a wide view at a distance?
@@FallenPasha Thought I would just comment here.
I have a 2080ti SLI & i9 9900k OC 5GHz. I have all the settings maxed out and I would almost constantly crash whenever I landed at NY Airport. I also noticed I had micro stutters even when flying around casually. I switched my 16gb 3600 Ram to a 32gb 3000mhz and there is no crashing at all.
With the 16GB I used about 90-95% ram every time playing MSFS. Now with the 32GB I use about 20Gb. I am sure if I lowered the settings I could run the game smoothy with 16GB but instead I just upgraded the RAM. Definitely worth spending that extra money to futherproof your setup.
@@FallenPasha Whenever you load up cities with accurate photogrammetry, the RAM usage can exceed 16GB. Try loading Paris or New York and you'll see that you won't be able to play MSFS while a chrome browser is open.
With MSFS open at 1440p Ultra, I sit at 25GB of RAM usage with 32GB of RAM.
Having a heavy minecraft modpack and listening to a podcast on youtube while you peacefully build something and chat on discord with some friends feels like a more realistic scenario of someone that would need a lot of ram. Also add some extra chrome tabs for looking up how the mods you are using work.
When I'm running heavily modded Minecraft and watching RUclips I'm actively using at least 12 gigs, so you're not even being unrealistic
thanks helped a lot
Me as a star citizen player: NEED MORE NOT ENOUGH
I had Xplane 11 at 21gb ~ usage (Minus 4.6GB ~ for Windows 10) equals 16GB in-game usage.
I upgraded to 32GB just for MSFS 2020.
Also the new Gpu’s will have 10-24gb vram so game developers will be increasing textures and that 32GB ram will be used in future games.
I definitely needed it for Ms flight 2020 in 1440p, I saw usage of 23gb flying into lax
"To try and futureproof... but is it needed in 2020?"
This makes sense.
Who cares it's cheap right now... Unless you buy rgb lol then it's +$100
i literally paid 75bucks for this lol
@@billsoon8456 I'd rather save that money for DDR5 4800mhz thank you very much.
@@djangojansen7648 I think the average speed for DDR5 will be somewhere around 4800mhz, at least in the beginning. In 3 years I won't have any issue upgrading to DDR5 32GB of RAM, as of now it seems a bit silly lol
You forgot to mention background tasks. A clean install of windows idles at 2GB, and chrome loves eating up ram.
I'm not saying you need 32, but it isn't too absurd to want it.
@Im Shur yep 16 is more than enough nowadays
Did you two not watch the video? Maybe I'm missing something.. but he literally showed us all a game that takes 16GB's.. and then windows takes 2GB's minimum.. then chrome..
I admit, you're probably never gonna use 32 as an average gamer.. but over 16? in the next couple of years? That's a huge possibility.
Don't get me wrong, I rock 16.. and I probably will for the next couple of years.. but 8? You two really think that's acceptable? I throw 8GB's in web browsing devices, 16-32 in gaming.
@@DopefriedCheese For most people, those who AIN'T gonna run a bunch of stuff in the background & have a habit of maxing out the graphics settings when they game, 8gb is actually adequate at present. Most games currently available are gonna look pretty enough & run smoothly enough at about 6 to 7 gb. 16gb is deemed the sweet spot cuz that'd allow you to run graphics settings higher than necessary, while not requiring you to shut off everything else before you boot up your game.
@@DopefriedCheese dont worry this noobs man. I came here to say that i improve 20fps by going from 8gb to 32gb RAM. PC specs : i7 10th and RTx 2060. Improved in Battlefront 2, jedi fallen order. And most important the games stoped to break. Much smoother. I remenber when 512mb was overkill. Now get Over it and go to Next level. I also use programs like adobe Premier, Photoshop CAD and other DAW music programs. If you have the money go for it.
@@MicaelAzevedo I stopped answering for a reason. I literally have no background programs open that aren't necessary and exceed 8GBs with basic games. I'm the type of person that ran the XP layout for years. "That's because you have too many tabs open" is insulting. Lol, thanks
It's not like you're going to be swapping out ram depending on your usage. So just install 32gb and be done with it.
The same argument always comes up. Maybe you use it maybe you dont but better than not having it and needing it. 64 gig user...why because rams affordable and again I have it if needed and it looks great as well.
I was running with 8gigs until recently. Never really noticed an issue from it to be honest. The only game I have noticed that goes over 8gigs for me now is red dead 2. And that's by about 500MBs
think less than 16gb isn't very comfortable if you're a heavy pc-user, if you want more than that it's probably gonna be 32gb, 23.6gb ram is out of the question...
one step more is probably better than not enough.
my browser did not like 1x8 ram for sure.
who strictly plays game on their computers... think anything else could be more ram intensive, some games might require different things than others though.
@@smievil why would you ever run ram out of duel channel lmao
Thanks for the video, was thinking of getting another 16gb of ram but now thinking it's not really needed.
Dual rank will help tremendously so yes. At a high speed and low cas latency that is. Either way dual rank will still help a lot no matter what. I recommend everyone start out with 2x16 gb sticks because it's 32gb, dual rank, dual channel of course, also they can upgrade in the future easily and only buy 2 more sticks of the same ram.
No you only need 512 mb of ram in 2020
256mb only really needed 512 is overkill in most games.
@@Edmundostudios 256!!! my medium end pc has 32mb and runs just fine in minesweeper
What's ram
640kb is enough for anyone as Bill Gates famously never said.
Nah 32kb is enough for most gaming
Pretty happy with my 16gb ddr4, 16 is more than enough for few more years :p
Windows 10. With Edge and Chrome both open, Excel, PDFs, a Picture Viewer, Discord, "Download Management" software, and background tasks - and a 16GB RAMDrive:
Using 28.4GB RAM.
That's before I open Game Launchers (ie: Steam, Epic, GoG, etc) and an actual Game. With a video going on the side monitor as I often do while playing.
I'm glad I got matching "hand me down" RAM, from a friend when they upgraded, that doubled what I had before. So now I have 64GB.
**Browsers use 10-50 tabs for me. Keeps where I am in multiple Webcomics, RUclips series, etc. without having to re-open them or lose where I am...
Actually, if you stream and/or do video production, more RAM is useful. If your game uses 14GB, it's nice to have more than 16 so background processes have some memory to use.
Short answer: no
Long answer: noooo
When I was playing star citizen I needed 24gb for no stutter during jumps.
Ok this was a massively informative video, should be a MUST for DCS and Warthunder modders. DCS crashes alot but it seems that as with the Microsoft airsim people are modding the dog snott outta their aircraft which I NOW know eats system ram...thankyou very much...please update this video its on my faovorite must read, and Im sure all 10 of my followers on U tube will watch it.
At 5:24 I would suggest saying it aloud that there will be flickering, epilepsy is a very serious thing.
I honestly feel sorry for the people who looked away as the warning was only in text just to see flickering, been seeing these things in RUclips Shorts and TikTok.
I don't have epilepsy but I believe I know why they probably never complain, because they don't wanna risk it on social media where there are no strict measures in place, sad really.
Love your channel btw bro
of course , i bought ram like a week ago
and now every brand is on sale......
of course.
Yeah, there is a pretty huge sale going on at the moment.
Cities: Skylines can absolutely SMASH through 32 gigs of RAM if you’ve got a suuuuuper huge city. Other than that, you’re good to go.
Not even a „suuuper huge city“. 100k citizens and a bit of modding ate 48GB RAM.
Yup
Or you know... 9000 ASSETS
Loading screen mod should help alleviate that issue.
Most asset creators check the RAM usage of their assets before uploading.
I only have 16 GB personally, but the most I’ve managed to utilize was about 90%, and that was due to watching a video on RUclips, having like 8 other Chrome tabs open, and working on something in Photoshop at the same time
You should always try to stay below 80% because Windows will aggressively push things out of RAM to try to maintain 80%.
@@deViant14 Right. I never usually reach that high of utilization for my RAM anyways, so that was more of an exception than the rule for me.
I don't know if my computer has problems, but my ram usage ALWAYS maxes out whenever I'm editing a lot of files in Photoshop OR Premiere Pro. Today, I'll be upgrading to 32gb since I think it'll genuinely help me out when I'm editing.
@@MutaharFarooq Yeah Photoshop I know decodes the JPEG format or whatever one you're working with into like a bitmap representation in memory which is typically many times the size of the source file. Some of it is cached in scratch disks, which you may also want to look into optimizing by maybe having a scratch disk on a different drive than your image source's drive. I'm not an expert in either but the things I mention exist in roughly the way I've said at the very least.
@@MutaharFarooq It’ll probably help a good amount, especially if you use Photoshop on a more professional level. I personally use it as a hobby, so the projects I work on are on a much smaller scale in comparison.
You have to check task manager simultaneously Bro.. It states whether some data is compressed or not, more ram available means it will utilize more, due to less real time compression.. For multi tasking, that's a great thing due to responsiveness etc...
Me: Sees title
Also me: tell THAT to star citizen!
Yeah. SC can gobble up 16gb easy in Lorville.
If you want to take advantage of 32 GB of RAM, buy a 4x8GB kit. Now your RAM runs like if it was a dual rank kit, what could give you extra performance (~10%). A 2x16 kit of dual rank RAM would do the same, but it's not always clear if it is configured that way.
RAM requirements will go up with the new consoles, as the storage in these machines is really fast. On PC you have to compensate this I expect.
Everybody: do you really need this much ram my guy? It’s insane and overkill...
Hoarders: *YES*
You are the best tech RUclipsr
When you building a new rig now i would recommend 32gb of ram so you wont have problems with it for 4-5 years
Nah. You can just make sure you have 4 ram slots on your motherboard and buy the ram when/ if you need it
@@THEpicND by then we'd have ddr5 for a few years
@@THEpicND waste money on an old rig after 4 years doesnt sound worth to me. Better pay now and use the potential for 4 years straight. If you gonna invest in your pc why not at the start. At least I would replace the gpu over time and not add stuff like ram
@@scottyhaines4226 $$$$
I built a system with 32GB in 2013 still haven't reached the point yet where I needed it lol
Dawid: uses 90+ Minecraft mods
Also Dawid: thinks it's a lot
Most of the FTB modpacks: Pathetic.
Im playing mc eternal rn that has 320 90+ is litrally nothing
siskel sewalt the ultimate modpack 2.0 made by socksfor1 : pathetic
FTB mods still exists? Damn I can’t even remember last time I played blood and bones
@@snhprojects2789 bruh I'm playing mc eternal too it's fucking great
@@snhprojects2789 mce just *absorbs* ram
I just got the whole 64GB even tho I really have no need for it. It was the pretty kind with LED's and makes me feel good. There's probably memory locations that have never been used at all.
It depends on the game tbh, some are light on ram, and some are heavier. I found that Microsoft Flight Simulator will max out 16GB if thats installed, while if there's 32GB, it will sometimes choose to bump the usage up to 18-19GB, and custom scenery and addon aircraft will add a bit more load to that, although that also greatly impacts the gpu memory and thus reduces the framerate (I'm a casual 24 fps enjoyer - 4K Ultra)
"Potential short comings" well, i have you know I graduated at the top of my class in the Navy Seals...
Flight sim 2020: hold my beer
I was playing scum the other day and I found a spot where it memory leaked 27gb, so at that point I was happy I had 32gb of memory cus it meant my computer was still running. :P
Need? Perhaps not, but it will help. I often hit 16-24GB of ram used while playing games. My last system had 16GB and I often ran into low memory issues. Now I do have a triple / quad monitor setup and often run several programs while playing games.
If all you are going to do is play one game and run nothing else, yes 32GB of ram is a little overkill. But if you plan on watching video on another monitor or run other programs you really do want 32GB.
I use 2GB RAM for gaming and especially watching RUclips videos including Dawid Does Tech Stuff's videos.
My condolences...
2GB in my very old laptop as well btw, horrible experience 😜😉
2GB is impressive. My old laptop has 8GB and I occasionally throttle at the limit just with my normal tab-junkie-heavy Chromium-usage.
My main rig which is kind of old, too, has 16GB and I've only filled that up only a couple times and only when having an unreasonable amount of things open.
I'd still go for 32GB in my next rig.
Matt Savage my main has 64GB but I use it for work as well so not only gaming.
But the Intel i3-370M in my old laptop with the 2GB 1066MHz RAM and a 5.400rpm spinning rust drive? ... yeah, absolute garbage 😩 It still does RUclips btw ... at 720p and buffering alot 🤣😂
@@MrJohnLongbow I would say you could upgrade that but with the CPU I'm not sure if it's even worth it, at least your desktop is nice and overkill
@jim rose Idk how he does it but ram and HDD could be swapped, but like, what's the point
I feel so sorry for you with everyone saying “Thiddy Twwoooo Gigabytes” : ((( 😂
Finally someone bench marking with Tarkov..! If you have done any other test on Tarkov Im sure a lot of ppl would love to see it, or maybe its just me lol
I know I am late to this but I have managed to get about 31-32gb of ram usage on rFactor2. I haven't touched allocation or anything but it was a 45 car race on the Nürburgring full. Pretty much maxed settings
It's inevitable in my opinion: I like playing while doing something else in the background
@@ghostedsuicide Hi, I'm someone who plays games and doesn't do other things in the background. I prefer to enjoy the game and not be distracted.
A caveat is that when I need info, I'll look it up on my phone or laptop, so I understand why multiple displays are useful. They just aren't what I use as they take away from my immersion in the game.
Having recently finished Subnautica, having another screen showing materials needed really helps.
Agreed. Im upgrading my ram tomorrow to 32gb. I dont see a big performance gaming difference but when I am also browsing and opening other clients or downloading other programs then I start noticing things. Like you said "Its inevitable"
@@FallenPasha no music? what games are you playing?
I remember upgrading to 2GB Ram around 2005, some friends said no need for that much when 1gbwas recommended for very few games, then out came battlefield 2142 with 1500GB for recommended
1500GB?? Crazy!
Flight Microsoft simulator says yes lmao when browsing in the background.
I have 32 gigs of ram. I also have an 8 core cpu. Most games, on their own, don't fully use 32 gigs of ram. It's a different story when you are streaming, have multiple browser tabs and other apps open at the same time. Also, i regularly use a decompression/installer system that normally uses well over 20 gigs of ram. The more ram and cpu threads you have, the faster it works. Also i do audio work. I can sometimes have huge projects open. Ie an hours worth of samples and insturments. That almost maxes out my ram and hammers my cpu usage during playback.
as an owner of 64GB ram in his PC...i'm compensating for everything :(
use prime cache to cache game files to speed up game loading. In assassin creed odyssey I saw a huge difference by allocating 15gb for caching.
That's a very interesting suggestion. A great way to use the extra RAM you have sitting around.
Lol it is so funny to see how much you still reply to comments that most quality RUclipsrs like you would ignore 😂
Seen the i7 2600k CPU in the intro made me feel better about buying the same doing my first computer build as learning about hardware making a purchasing decision based on platform build upon best BANG for Buck older but relevant to current day system.
Started off with a ASUS P8Z68 Gen-3ProV that led me to choose best 1155socket out there to overclock being the i7 2600K i have seen in the intro :D - my choice of GPU in current market landed me on EVGA GeForce 960 4GB as most suitable price/performance value & topping it off with 4x8GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance just to make sure i dont bottleneck anything trying to push out best overclock performance. Working on Cooling and PSU now. SO far got the AIO Coolmaster for CPU & next spare money i get will finish off with another 4fans I havent researched yet, but doing the first build is more fun then I thought after understanding hardware specs.
PS* I can build a racecar engine faster then assemble a working PC probably ahaha but... its about to change
*PSS: Reconsidering going 4x8GB RAM (32gb) on my System might be WAY OVERKILL as Im learning now benchmark RAM utilizations for options. I mainly play World of Warcraft, Path of Exile, Diablo 3, would love to play GTA5 & Mafia/Max Payne type titles - would i need 16gb or 32for later said games?
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Dawid: "Finally a game that uses more than 16 gigs of ram!"
Star Citizen: "Am I a joke to you?"
For real man
Hahah yeah. My Ram monitor tells me 16gb is 90% in SC 😦
@@CollyDoo I just made the switch to 32gb of ram from 16. Makes a WORLD of difference. Stuttering is almost gone :) Definitely recommend it for the time being.
I'll leave this here: MICROSOFT FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2020
he says it at the end of the video
He mentions that as well. Doesn't change the fact that the average gamer is absolutely ok with 16 gb
Exactly, It's using an average of 22,5 GB of RAM overflying Tokyo or NY
@@cehaem2 Yes, BUT only at the very end of the video. Throughout the video I'd say the average viewer would be under the impression that 16GB is WAAAY enough, when in fact it actually is not. That's the issue. The video is still great and I agree that most people don't need more than 16GB - no doubt about it.
@@galmubi5406 Yes, for the average gamer 16 gigs is more than enough.
0:11 amazing PC build
I literally watched this hoping you would test EFT, and i gotta say... I think im gunna go with 32 lol
Im glad you mentioned Minecraft. I play RLCraft with extra shaders and noticed an improvement with 32 gigs of cheap Ram I picked up a few moths ago.
*I'm using 32GB of RAM but only because I built My PC for Video Editing. But I don't think I notice it, lol*
@@onionwarlock7407 Already have a Great CPU. But having more Ram isn't just for gaming unless you ONLY game. I don't ONLY game, I'm also a content creator so I shoot in HI-Res almost all the time.
@@onionwarlock7407 no no it's fine I had built my First PC in July of 2020 but I opted for 32GB because 16 isn't enough and thanks for watching my channel.
David, great video
I do have a few observations/questions.
First is the benchmark SW monitoring the game or the system usage?
If it is monitoring only the game then a sanitized Win10 by itself will eat 4-7Gb so you are quickly touching 16Gb and then you are paging and if you are paging you start eating more RAM later for processing.
Different games use the RAM differently some will need a lot of RAM for processing like on-line game other will just pass the bits to the GPU and it is it that will need RAM to render to the screen.
Finally I was so waiting for you to dive into the speed difference 3000, 3200, 4000 MHz what exactly does it 'give' the user? Are we talking 10% visible usable increase or 5% or 20%? Basically does it matter?
If you are processing super fast shipping to the RAM super fast and sending the bits to your GPU you are just bugging down your GPU, No????
Cheers,
a.
Also IMPORTANT thing is that, Windows 10 use 3-4GB in every moment because of that You don't have 16 GB, for game you have like 12GB and sometimes you ask yourself why You have problems with rendering distance in some games, its just because of that. You don't need 32, You can use like 24GB and that is good..
Thank you for the "Strobe effect" warning. I have epilepsy and that shit gives me seizures... A LOT (if not the majority) of people don't put that in their videos (taking about the warning). Subscribed!!
For you Tarkov example, it using 14gb does in fact mean it would max out a 16gb kit. A game using 8gb will leave you with maybe 4-5 gb free, not 8gb free. Not including any applications you might have open.
Nobody ever seems to consider that Windows uses a lot of ram. If you have 16gb, windows is using 3-4gb at any given moment. It scales with how much you have.
8gb = windows uses 2gb.
32gb = windows uses 4-6gb.
I have a 32gb machine, and I run diskeeper, to use the extra ram as cache for the mechanical hdd and for a short buffer for writes.
I have alot of shortcomings so I will take you advice, and get more ram for my pc. So 32gb of ram is what I need to help with that even if it doesn't help with the fps in games that much. Thanks for the advice, as any life advice is good.
Benchmarks aren't everything most people have something in the background running like discoard and browser . Going from 16 gb to 32gb in the real world performance it fell more Snaper. Just keep it in mind benchmarks aren't everything this is not the usual use of pc while gaming.
If you're offended by this I'm sorry.
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i usually keep 40 pornhub tabs open while i game
exactly i run 32 gigs on my system and my son runs 16 gigs and he says my system is more responsive doing the same things he does on his pc while playing games
@@shinukage8573 with my system there was a bit of a difference going from 2x8GB dual channel to 4x8GB dual channel. I was honestly not expecting any improvement on the game I was playing,I bought more to be reatdy for Microsoft flight sim 2020,but there was quite an improvement appearently due to it now running in Dual Rank mode for each channel.
You don't need to apologise for people potentially being offended by you stating your opinion. Anyone who thinks you aren't allowed to think for yourself should be apologising to you, not the other way around.
@@kylematlock7499 Dual-rank can make a big difference in some software, though it's very variable (some games love memory rank interleaving, some don't care about it at all). A lot of people with 16GB could benefit from going up to 32GB for this reason.
Got 64GB a few weeks ago... now the rest of the PC
Wait really? How much may I ask “Cringes”
Planning on saving for pc but kinda a noob, but have a friend I talk to all the time that helps me understand and talks to me about his current build ever now and then.
@@hostileenvironment6107 got 128gb now... 600 bucks total. still waiting for my gpu and cpu tho
@@nicksparrow009 Holy mother of aunt petunia, what you Running RL craft with added mods and a 128x realistic texture pack? :-0 I hate to imagine the price converted to Canadian AGFHFHHFGGHHGGHHGH
@@hostileenvironment6107 If I didn't win Crypto lotettery
I need 32gb because I run 3 screens and many programs at once if I were simply gaming I wouldn't need it but if you have a multi-screen setup it helps a lot.
I use Edge (based on Chromium) as my main web browser, so I plan to get 64GB in my next build.
You had me at ... “I have 32gigs of RAM” - swoon 😋
the 32 gigs of RAM (or the max afforded) are a good way of time-proofing a PC.
I use the memory and the 3tb for my game mods for my sims 4 gaming and screen shots and photo editing
Considering your PC is doing background tasks while you play games yes... Opening up mod organizer 2, steam, and Firefox web browser is 8 gigs of RAM on laptop