Know this is old. But when I had to tail gate in trees like that. Always did it backing up. That way any limbs would just run up the side of the bed. No way to get one hung between the cab and bed that way. Plus I was running on rock rather then the dirt or fabric. We even did some loads when Blue Topping for the state.
Awesome. The dump truck driver knows how to lay that gravel down. But, now that I watched your video I'll know what to ask when I have someone to put a gravel driveway down for me. Fabric sounds like a winner and I have thought about this in the past.
A good geotextile fabric is really the way to go, I am doing a new driveway next month and I will be using it, if you want very little settlement in your stone compact the sub grade (obv remove all the top soil first) then compact the gravel in 2/3 inch lifts for best results. The fabric does cost more, make sure you use a woven fabric, not filter fabric, this will help so you don't lose your stone over the years, in the long run this saves time and money.
good idea you used the fabric. I am going to do the same. I always thought you first pour one layer of bigger size gravel (like 1.5") before pouring the 3/4" gravel.
Rick Sherwood not if the number 1s are compacted right. Then put 2" or more of 2A on top to choke the big stuff in and you will have a nice solid driveway. Using number 1s isn't always necessary if there isn't much moisture in the ground or if there is a solid base
I wish i would have had that fabric 12 years ago when we built our driveway. We built in a then soybean and hay fields and it was mushy. We had to dig down nearly two feet and replace w clay then our gravel. All this time later and the gravel has been packed into the base layer and has all but disappeared. That fabric would have stopped that. Thanks for the video
with only a load truck with hydro jack, it is a very economic way of making a gravel road, and if done with step by step, down grading the gravel grades 1.5, 1.0, 3/4, 1/2 . 2-3mm. Also a pouring apout with opening adjust ment could be attached with Rear Wheel Movements.
Great video, Mr. Locust. And now a beautiful driveway. This is exactly how I plan to do our drive, geotextile with 21AA plus fines (I've also heard it called 'DGA, dense grade aggregate', or 'inch and a half minus'.) The length is about double yours. I do have a few questions, and your answers would be a big help: 1. What was final thickness of the poured stone? 2. Did you use your tractor for all spreading/leveling? With a front blade? or rear? or something else? 3. How has it behaved for you, two years on? Do you have freeze/thaw cycles there where you live? 4. Your prep'd road bed was flat, ie. with zero crown or slope, and in a couple spots was even a bit bath-tub-y (technical term). Have you experienced any pooling of water? especially given that clay layer you said is a foot deep. Thanks in advance for your help.
After reading comments and seeing your replies, I take you had no money for EcoTerr soil stabilizing grids or the budget for it as well which would offer the added benefit of keeping the stone in lace for the most part as it eliminated all if not some rutting issues common with this type of driveway surfacing. It also provides even less chance of the textile or gravel from sinking into the ground than normal as what you did. Bordering with brickwork or natural stone provides better looking edge and keeps the stone from spreading wider than you like or want. Driver did good on the first drop to hold that textile in place for the rest of the loads.
Once it packs down it doesnt really move at all. I have a gravel driveway and did it even without the fabric and nothing really happened to it even though most of the edge of the drive theres is a a slope the only problem is that i can wash out if it rains hard but theres not a lot you can do about it
that guy knows how to spread with the truck well. the guy I usually have haul does real good like that and I only have to spread with a bob cat around the circle where he can't get into, space to small. he couldn't get me until next month and I couldn't wait that long so I went with someone else. I spent almost 7hrs with the Bob cat. drivers make all the difference.
The guy I use is good at makin a huge awkward pile... only benefit it the cheap price :-p if you ask him to spread, you get 2 big piles about 20 feet from each other! Hes an old goof
I know this is a year old comment but usually the geotex fabric will run around 500$ for a 5’ X 300’ roll. The gravel really depends on what type of rock you want and how much you need.
yes, would like to know the need for geo textile fabric...is that something that is needed or just something you decided to use...and same question as carol...if you do need it...where did you get it..?? and if you don't mind me asking how much did you pay for the gravel and for them to come in and pour the gravel for you?
shela preiss typically 2A gravel is 14$ a ton which includes delivery. Fabric is usually around 200-300$ a roll depending on the size and where you buy it. It's used in high moisture areas to keep the gravel from pushing thru into the sub base. It also helps keep weeds out. So if you have a high water table under your driveway or wherever you are placing stone than I suggest using the geotex fabric.
What kind of gravel did you use? We had a guy bring in a load of gravel for the driveway which turned out to be a load of loose rock that ended up everywhere. :-(
Yes you do, I kept looking to see if they did that and in spots you see soil on the edges but does not seem like it's enough, generally top soil is around a foot deep.
Johnintoit not in a high vegetation area like this video is in. Usually around trees being the vegetation top soil is no more than a few inches. Around 3-5 inches. Sometimes only 2 inches in depth.
+Carol Seymour Thank you, I got the fabric at a local contractor supply center. My soil has a lot of clay down to about a foot that would cost a lot to remove and backfill. The fabric stabilizes the soft clay and keeps the gravel from getting pushed down. It also helps with keeping weeds from growing.
This method can be very dangerous! please do not try this at home and leave it up to an expert, somebody who has been driving for many years to spread gravel in this manner. The eat the truck can easily turn over on its side at any moment because of one small error which there are many that could cause that to happen!
I'm not sure about the stone but woven fabric sells in rolls, most standard rolls are 12.5 feet wide and just over 400+ feet long and you can expect the roll to weigh about 190 lbs, if you buy from a good distributor you will spend just under $300 for it.
Ruben Cuellar I lived in Alaska for a few years and I had a rock driveway. Never any problems with snow. Snow is easy to remove and rocks seem to hold their place well
Arsen damn dude where do you live? 2A gravel is 14$ a ton including delivery to the site. And like half that if you have your own truck to haul it with.
@@rogerl8488 where in Wet Virginia can you get that price please? I was ripped off and only received 6 to 8 tons when I paid for 20 tons. They're supposed to be coming back in about 3 days. Really need your info. Thanks. Rae
This driveway will settle and leave ruts because the top soil wasnt removed and will decompose. Update the video and show us so others learn from this oversight. You can use finer crush in those rutted areas to smooth it out but not too fine. Aaaaand the producers of this video never again returned to their online viewers or updated this video progress. Ta-dah! No mission accomplished.
epic fail on the drivers part letting that material spill over the gate... lift the bed up slowly while driving not all at once while you still have a full load...
most drivers dont own the trucks they are not allowed to spread it ,, for liability reasons ,, looked hairy a few times alot of weight up high, tip hazard,, just my 2 cents,, good job tho,, regards , scn ,,b safe out there
I really want to hear the sound of a car driving up the driveway. It would take me back to when I was a kid. A special sound,
"Somebody is here."
The pour of that material was as perfect as any I have ever seen.
Know this is old. But when I had to tail gate in trees like that. Always did it backing up. That way any limbs would just run up the side of the bed. No way to get one hung between the cab and bed that way. Plus I was running on rock rather then the dirt or fabric. We even did some loads when Blue Topping for the state.
Awesome. The dump truck driver knows how to lay that gravel down. But, now that I watched your video I'll know what to ask when I have someone to put a gravel driveway down for me. Fabric sounds like a winner and I have thought about this in the past.
A good geotextile fabric is really the way to go, I am doing a new driveway next month and I will be using it, if you want very little settlement in your stone compact the sub grade (obv remove all the top soil first) then compact the gravel in 2/3 inch lifts for best results.
The fabric does cost more, make sure you use a woven fabric, not filter fabric, this will help so you don't lose your stone over the years, in the long run this saves time and money.
Johnintoit
Johnintoit
good idea you used the fabric. I am going to do the same.
I always thought you first pour one layer of bigger size gravel (like 1.5") before pouring the 3/4" gravel.
It is all 2" minus gravel
Boerboy Washington the bigger stuff will rise to the top
Rick Sherwood not if the number 1s are compacted right. Then put 2" or more of 2A on top to choke the big stuff in and you will have a nice solid driveway. Using number 1s isn't always necessary if there isn't much moisture in the ground or if there is a solid base
I wish i would have had that fabric 12 years ago when we built our driveway. We built in a then soybean and hay fields and it was mushy. We had to dig down nearly two feet and replace w clay then our gravel.
All this time later and the gravel has been packed into the base layer and has all but disappeared.
That fabric would have stopped that.
Thanks for the video
ثبارك ألله احسن طريقة فرشة الأرض ب البلاستيك يمنع تسرب الماء ويبقى الطريق قويا
That’s great driving on the dump truck
with only a load truck with hydro jack, it is a very economic way of making a gravel road, and if done with step by step, down grading the gravel grades 1.5, 1.0, 3/4, 1/2 . 2-3mm.
Also a pouring apout with opening adjust ment could be attached with Rear Wheel Movements.
Looks great.
Beautiful Drive!!
Great video, Mr. Locust. And now a beautiful driveway. This is exactly how I plan to do our drive, geotextile with 21AA plus fines (I've also heard it called 'DGA, dense grade aggregate', or 'inch and a half minus'.) The length is about double yours. I do have a few questions, and your answers would be a big help:
1. What was final thickness of the poured stone?
2. Did you use your tractor for all spreading/leveling? With a front blade? or rear? or something else?
3. How has it behaved for you, two years on? Do you have freeze/thaw cycles there where you live?
4. Your prep'd road bed was flat, ie. with zero crown or slope, and in a couple spots was even a bit bath-tub-y (technical term). Have you experienced any pooling of water? especially given that clay layer you said is a foot deep.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Looks great!!! Now just needs good roller!!
After reading comments and seeing your replies, I take you had no money for EcoTerr soil stabilizing grids or the budget for it as well which would offer the added benefit of keeping the stone in lace for the most part as it eliminated all if not some rutting issues common with this type of driveway surfacing. It also provides even less chance of the textile or gravel from sinking into the ground than normal as what you did. Bordering with brickwork or natural stone provides better looking edge and keeps the stone from spreading wider than you like or want.
Driver did good on the first drop to hold that textile in place for the rest of the loads.
Not needed in his application, waste of money
Do you know how much that costs! $2sf if you're lucky!
4:50 No leveling or grading before layering on the gravel?
Looking good... Would it not be a good idea to put some form of a solid edge so the gravel does not disperse over time?
Once it packs down it doesnt really move at all. I have a gravel driveway and did it even without the fabric and nothing really happened to it even though most of the edge of the drive theres is a a slope the only problem is that i can wash out if it rains hard but theres not a lot you can do about it
How many feet does a 15 ton dumb truck cover of gravel ,poured at 4” inches ?
Super... super
wouldn't spraying tar over stones make stay in place better?
Benny ofAtlanta not really. And not to mention it'll get all over your car making it a mess to clean off the vehicle.
that guy knows how to spread with the truck well. the guy I usually have haul does real good like that and I only have to spread with a bob cat around the circle where he can't get into, space to small. he couldn't get me until next month and I couldn't wait that long so I went with someone else. I spent almost 7hrs with the Bob cat. drivers make all the difference.
The guy I use is good at makin a huge awkward pile... only benefit it the cheap price :-p if you ask him to spread, you get 2 big piles about 20 feet from each other! Hes an old goof
Not bad on that truck
How did u rig the fabric to ur tractor
What types of materials are used in this.... only gravels??
how much did that cost to install?
some mad skills!!!!
What does that cost?
That fabric may keep the weeds out and the stone above the soil but it's going to make it a pain to maintain without a lot of stone on top.
This is so cool to watch. How much does this cost?
I know this is a year old comment but usually the geotex fabric will run around 500$ for a 5’ X 300’ roll. The gravel really depends on what type of rock you want and how much you need.
yes, would like to know the need for geo textile fabric...is that something that is needed or just something you decided to use...and same question as carol...if you do need it...where did you get it..?? and if you don't mind me asking how much did you pay for the gravel and for them to come in and pour the gravel for you?
shela preiss typically 2A gravel is 14$ a ton which includes delivery. Fabric is usually around 200-300$ a roll depending on the size and where you buy it. It's used in high moisture areas to keep the gravel from pushing thru into the sub base. It also helps keep weeds out. So if you have a high water table under your driveway or wherever you are placing stone than I suggest using the geotex fabric.
The fabric stop grass or weeds from growing up through the gravel
Now that's cool :-)
nice ...about how long is the drive way
+MrBubbahunt9 It's about 400'
It looks great! What is that fabric for?
To stop plants/vegetation growing through.
Tight!!
What kind of gravel did you use? We had a guy bring in a load of gravel for the driveway which turned out to be a load of loose rock that ended up everywhere. :-(
Probably 3/4" minus. You want a stone that's mixed with fines so it compacts
how many tons of material per truck?
Tri Axles Typically haul 21-22 Tons per load, this tandem is typically around 18-20 tons
how long is your drive?
You don't need to dig and remove the top soil beforehand?
Yes you do, I kept looking to see if they did that and in spots you see soil on the edges but does not seem like it's enough, generally top soil is around a foot deep.
Johnintoit not in a high vegetation area like this video is in. Usually around trees being the vegetation top soil is no more than a few inches. Around 3-5 inches. Sometimes only 2 inches in depth.
And what should one putn instead of the topsoil? Sand? Gravel?
No you don't need to remove the top soil. You just need a proper aggregate
You've done a nice job. Where can one buy the geo textile fabric? And what purpose does it serve? Thanks!
+Carol Seymour Thank you, I got the fabric at a local contractor supply center. My soil has a lot of clay down to about a foot that would cost a lot to remove and backfill. The fabric stabilizes the soft clay and keeps the gravel from getting pushed down. It also helps with keeping weeds from growing.
+Steve don't see why not.
Larger stone as a base will also stabilize the clay, the stuff turns into concrete once the stone gets pushed into it
This method can be very dangerous! please do not try this at home and leave it up to an expert, somebody who has been driving for many years to spread gravel in this manner. The eat the truck can easily turn over on its side at any moment because of one small error which there are many that could cause that to happen!
How much it costed you. Thx
I'm not sure about the stone but woven fabric sells in rolls, most standard rolls are 12.5 feet wide and just over 400+ feet long and you can expect the roll to weigh about 190 lbs, if you buy from a good distributor you will spend just under $300 for it.
Hi, will you recommend this type of driveway for the snow, I live in Colorado, and so I want to do my driveway exactly like yours
Ruben Cuellar I lived in Alaska for a few years and I had a rock driveway. Never any problems with snow. Snow is easy to remove and rocks seem to hold their place well
how many loads total ?
NinjaGibsonRockstar looks like 5 to 6
Maybe 10 actually
how much a truck load cost
it's about 40 to 45$ a ton.
Arsen damn dude where do you live? 2A gravel is 14$ a ton including delivery to the site. And like half that if you have your own truck to haul it with.
It was around $12/ton delivered and spread, the quarry is only 20 miles away.
Dam that's high!!!limestone in Wv is 22 a ton truck brings 25 ton for 100 bucks...
@@rogerl8488 where in Wet Virginia can you get that price please? I was ripped off and only received 6 to 8 tons when I paid for 20 tons. They're supposed to be coming back in about 3 days. Really need your info. Thanks.
Rae
How long does a gravel driveway last?
Forever. You just need to drag it with new gravel during the year to keep smooth
How many ft is this driveway?
seal coat it and it will look like black top..
Paul Barnes
how many tons did you need for this? 2 truck loads?
It was around 120 tons, 10 truck loads or so.
This driveway will settle and leave ruts because the top soil wasnt removed and will decompose. Update the video and show us so others learn from this oversight. You can use finer crush in those rutted areas to smooth it out but not too fine. Aaaaand the producers of this video never again returned to their online viewers or updated this video progress. Ta-dah! No mission accomplished.
epic fail on the drivers part letting that material spill over the gate... lift the bed up slowly while driving not all at once while you still have a full load...
You are joking right? This driver did an excellent job, usually you need a machine to spred and smooth it out!
That driver saved him a ton of time and headache by doing that. Most drivers drop it all in one place and you are responsible for moving it
most drivers dont own the trucks they are not allowed to spread it ,, for liability reasons ,, looked hairy a few times alot of weight up high, tip hazard,, just my 2 cents,, good job tho,, regards , scn ,,b safe out there
scn102 that's what I was thinking. At least he spread it all for them most drivers dump it in one pile
Everybody's an expert except the people who do it for a living....
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