I like your examples... and agree. But I'm a novice at Enneagrams, so my vote is subject to more learning. I have looked into Enneagrams. From a purely "scientific" point, they are not well supported (indeed, disparaged by some "intelligentsia"). However, the whole area of "personality," is a "soft science." Numerous examples from movies and printed stories seem to fit the Enneagram model, thus lending it some credibility. I appreciate its stress "fallback" behavior mapping. Some other personality measures seem to be static, to be blind to the effects of stress and aberrant mental states (some systems avoid such factors completely). Consequently, I intend to continue refining my understanding of Enneagrams... which is why I watched your video. You asked about other methods used: A related system that I have found useful, both in life and in writing (unpublished amateur), is "Work Styles." The system apparently arises out of the "Disc" method of personality characterization (If you Google, "Disc personality" you will find there are "tests" for it too). Briefly... The Work Styles system has two, mutually perpendicular axes: Horizontal --> Assertiveness from "ask" on left to "tell" on right. Vertical --> Responsiveness from "people" on bottom to "task" on top. The quadrants are (starting at upper right and moving counter clockwise): I: Tell Assertive, Task Responsive, Driver. II: Ask Assertive Task Responsive Analytical. III: Ask Assertive People Responsive Amiable. And IV: Tell Assertive People Responsive Expressive (think "used car salesman"). People have various "shadings" within those designations (my co-workers' survey responses placed me as an "Analytical Amiable, placing me towards the lower left of quadrant II). Each quadrant has a list of general traits (most of them pretty obvious). The "system" is extended to provide aids to help recognize and communicate with persons having work styles different from their own. When stressed, people follow a "Z" pattern starting in their quadrant. Using my Quadrant II (Analytical) as a starting point, my first (Ask Assertive, Task Responsive) reply when handed a problem is, "Let me think about it." If pushed for more immediate feedback, I will move to Quadrant I and become "Tell Assertive." "We should...." If that response is rejected and another reply is demanded, I drop to Quadrant III (making the diagonal on the "Z" and moving from Task responsive to People responsive), fall back to "Ask Assertive," and invoke "Amiable" mode: "What do you think we should be doing?" A final push will move me to Quadrant IV, Expressive, with a "Tell Assertive" response like, "I told you what I think we should do and that is really the best thing for you. Take it or leave it." With that, I'm done with the interaction. Walk away. The system has worked for me in the workplace. For example, I was having a real problem with a co-worker. After considering her actions I decided that she was an "Expressive." The start of my "Z", "let me think about it." Was at the end of her "Z", "I'll get back to you... when hell freezes over." She thought I was blowing her off. I thought her responses were unthinking, flippant, and pointlessly flamboyant. Once I figured out her Expressive leanings, the situation got resolved and we got along famously. I also find the "Work Styles" system useful for thinking about characters when they are "on the job" engaged in activities that are less "personal."
Oh yes! I've done Disc in my work life as well and it's incredibly insightful and more complex. I totally agree, it would be an excellent way to use personality profiles for character design. Thanks for your comment!
Well done, though Myers Briggs is clearly a ripoff of Astrological Archetypes... Still very helpful ! FYI, No Subtitles !?! ~Re: Easy to grab Screenshots of key points with both Text and Graphics ! ~THX ~ BTW, Your Scrivener Setup Video was Great ! ~Liked ~Subd
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I don't understand how you don't have more subscribers!
Your personality is so charming and your videos are super helpful and fun to watch.
🥺 thank you so so much for this!
Awesome! All good points :)
Thanks for watching! I’m so glad you enjoyed the topic 😉
I like your examples... and agree. But I'm a novice at Enneagrams, so my vote is subject to more learning.
I have looked into Enneagrams. From a purely "scientific" point, they are not well supported (indeed, disparaged by some "intelligentsia"). However, the whole area of "personality," is a "soft science." Numerous examples from movies and printed stories seem to fit the Enneagram model, thus lending it some credibility. I appreciate its stress "fallback" behavior mapping. Some other personality measures seem to be static, to be blind to the effects of stress and aberrant mental states (some systems avoid such factors completely). Consequently, I intend to continue refining my understanding of Enneagrams... which is why I watched your video.
You asked about other methods used: A related system that I have found useful, both in life and in writing (unpublished amateur), is "Work Styles." The system apparently arises out of the "Disc" method of personality characterization (If you Google, "Disc personality" you will find there are "tests" for it too). Briefly... The Work Styles system has two, mutually perpendicular axes: Horizontal --> Assertiveness from "ask" on left to "tell" on right. Vertical --> Responsiveness from "people" on bottom to "task" on top. The quadrants are (starting at upper right and moving counter clockwise): I: Tell Assertive, Task Responsive, Driver. II: Ask Assertive Task Responsive Analytical. III: Ask Assertive People Responsive Amiable. And IV: Tell Assertive People Responsive Expressive (think "used car salesman"). People have various "shadings" within those designations (my co-workers' survey responses placed me as an "Analytical Amiable, placing me towards the lower left of quadrant II). Each quadrant has a list of general traits (most of them pretty obvious). The "system" is extended to provide aids to help recognize and communicate with persons having work styles different from their own.
When stressed, people follow a "Z" pattern starting in their quadrant. Using my Quadrant II (Analytical) as a starting point, my first (Ask Assertive, Task Responsive) reply when handed a problem is, "Let me think about it." If pushed for more immediate feedback, I will move to Quadrant I and become "Tell Assertive." "We should...." If that response is rejected and another reply is demanded, I drop to Quadrant III (making the diagonal on the "Z" and moving from Task responsive to People responsive), fall back to "Ask Assertive," and invoke "Amiable" mode: "What do you think we should be doing?" A final push will move me to Quadrant IV, Expressive, with a "Tell Assertive" response like, "I told you what I think we should do and that is really the best thing for you. Take it or leave it." With that, I'm done with the interaction. Walk away.
The system has worked for me in the workplace. For example, I was having a real problem with a co-worker. After considering her actions I decided that she was an "Expressive." The start of my "Z", "let me think about it." Was at the end of her "Z", "I'll get back to you... when hell freezes over." She thought I was blowing her off. I thought her responses were unthinking, flippant, and pointlessly flamboyant. Once I figured out her Expressive leanings, the situation got resolved and we got along famously. I also find the "Work Styles" system useful for thinking about characters when they are "on the job" engaged in activities that are less "personal."
Oh yes! I've done Disc in my work life as well and it's incredibly insightful and more complex. I totally agree, it would be an excellent way to use personality profiles for character design. Thanks for your comment!
To me, Eowyn would be an 8, and Legolas a 4...at least as they are portraid in the books
the 9 would be Frodo
Excellent point and perspective - totally agree it could go that way!
Well done, though Myers Briggs is clearly a ripoff of Astrological Archetypes... Still very helpful !
FYI, No Subtitles !?! ~Re: Easy to grab Screenshots of key points with both Text and Graphics ! ~THX ~
BTW, Your Scrivener Setup Video was Great ! ~Liked ~Subd
Glad you enjoyed! Sorry about the subtitles, I didn’t realize they weren’t available on this video. Thanks for letting me know - I’ll fix this asap!