windmillman I agree. Will give this guy one more chance to bring some energy to the review that they did, but right now it seems hes just reading without passion lol
This feels like it was written by MV and just read off by this guy. It really doesn't feel genuine. Maybe I'm wrong but quite a bit of the review and comparison content feels more like the manufacturer wrote it. There are no faults brought up here, nothing critical is brought up and instead you explain that sadel bags are sadel bags... The only negative brought up is that it might be hard to buy one in certain regions. I get that you didn't have a whole lot of time to ride around and test it but this feels more like you are trying to sell me the bike than give an opinion on it.
Honestly this dude who is telling us the information is honest about the MV's He did it with the F3's aswell, both 675 & 800. He gives his honest opinion about it. When the F3 was released, he said it how it was. Incredible to ride but the throttle was just bad, and awful for the streets. All of that has been fixed by now, and these bikes run great. Ride one, and you'll know what he's talking about.
mlakarm18 So if everyone who's being honest doesn't get invited back, who's gonna make a review if all are honest? They're just afraid when instead they should all band together and stick to the principles. Bike manufacturers need them too.
This video is weird. I'm not against new hosts, but the way there was no introduction whatsoever (to people who don't know him, at least) is so weird. The camerawork, colours are poor, the guy is not even in focus (come on!) This is very, very off-brand, it doesn't feel like Motorcyclist, it feels like a random biker on RUclips. Hmm.
Yeah, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm from The Netherlands, which is very much PART OF Europe, and the Dutch men are the tallest in the world. If you need proof, I'm 6'5".
I couldn't care less about Waheed. I have come to expect quality videos from this channel but this one falls pretty short of the standard. It felt more like an advertisement than an actual review of any sort. There was hardly any mention of the specs of the motorcycle. On top of that there wasn't any critical analysis worth mentioning. Thoroughly disappointed. And WTF did they mean when they said that Europeans are shorter in general? Who the hell wrote the script and didn't anyone review it before making the video?
Christian Hodges (-) How can you hate the sound of a person's voice??? Do you hate Sponge Bob's voice??? I'm thinking your hate is more on his name. I'd bet that if his name was changed from Waheed to Wayne, you'd have a different perspective.
Great to see Adam on this channel, haters gonna hate but this guy knows his stuff. Saw him in a video when he identified tyre makes blind, that got my respect. Yes he can ramble on a bit but there's gold in there, I've picked up some good riding tips listening to him.
I think people who know Adam respect his opinion and he compliments the crew well. He even got a hair cut. People who dont know him or seen his vids are going to be like who the F is this guy? Bike launches are different, more of an exploratory intro than a critical review.
Nice review, Adam. Do we love Zach and Ari? Hell yes, but live above the haters homie, keep the videos coming and of course we want you on more videos.
Does anyone buy these? Every review video is a factory provided loaner, with the requisite emphasis on the positives. What we need are some owner reviews. What’s this bike like to live with, ride and service after a couple of seasons?
Seeing as how there wasn't a single critique or negative thing talked about... this doesn't reallY qualify as a review. More of a sales pitch really. Sounds like it came directly from their website
I gotta agree with a lot of the comments I've read here. Dude is obviously very knowledgeable about the motorcycle, and presents the information as it is. He's just missing the natural delivery that Ari and Zack have developed through the years. The video did feel a little canned; a good, mostly informal presentation should integrate the personality of the individual(s) presenting. Anyway, seems like a decent bike.
It's not ugly, that's for sure, but I dunno... I expect more in the looks department from MV. In the current market of course they need an ADV, but it feels more like you would buy this because MV are a cool brand rather than because this is a cool bike.
I like Adam and his reviews and I hugely respect his track skills, but it kills me every time he said, "it works real good." Good is an adjective, not an adverb and real means actual, not very. "It works really well." Seriously, you're a writer/journalist, you should know this.
Google "tallest people in the world" The world's 10 tallest countries Netherlands - 1.838m. Montenegro - 1.832m. Denmark - 1.826m. Norway - 1.824m. Serbia - 1.82m. Germany - 1.81m. Croatia - 1.805m. Czech Republic - 1.8031m. Yeah, all those short Europeans... :D
Well, we're shorter than Shaquille O'Neal... Didn't know that he was standard US height... My bad, I'm just 5'11" Google this: "List of average human height worldwide" and be surprised :-)
So this is it, this is the collapse of Motorcyclist Magazine. You've lost it. You had a good thing going but now that you have the viewer base to start taking money from the brands for these ads you're just ignoring the quality aspect. This is really the only motorcyclist channel that I watch and it's been so good up until about now.
Jason Yergin People have different talents. He might be a fantastic rider but delivering the right content for the camera is not him. Also, had never heard about him until the links were posted.
Zach and Ari are the heart and soul of this channel. Period.
windmillman I agree. Will give this guy one more chance to bring some energy to the review that they did, but right now it seems hes just reading without passion lol
WHERE IS ZACH AND ARI!!
Average Joe saddddd
At ur mom house...
IF neither are here... hopefully off filming one of the overseas vids :D
This feels like it was written by MV and just read off by this guy. It really doesn't feel genuine.
Maybe I'm wrong but quite a bit of the review and comparison content feels more like the manufacturer wrote it.
There are no faults brought up here, nothing critical is brought up and instead you explain that sadel bags are sadel bags... The only negative brought up is that it might be hard to buy one in certain regions.
I get that you didn't have a whole lot of time to ride around and test it but this feels more like you are trying to sell me the bike than give an opinion on it.
axel boström it’s a “first ride” review... or in other words, introducing this bike to the audience.
I have seen many of his motorcycle reviews. Every motorcycle could be introduced as a perfect one by him. Yeah, that's a flaw.
Honestly this dude who is telling us the information is honest about the MV's
He did it with the F3's aswell, both 675 & 800.
He gives his honest opinion about it. When the F3 was released, he said it how it was. Incredible to ride but the throttle was just bad, and awful for the streets.
All of that has been fixed by now, and these bikes run great.
Ride one, and you'll know what he's talking about.
They have to. Otherwise next time they wont be invited anymore to a launch of a new motorcycle.
mlakarm18
So if everyone who's being honest doesn't get invited back, who's gonna make a review if all are honest?
They're just afraid when instead they should all band together and stick to the principles. Bike manufacturers need them too.
We want Zack and Ari ... !
Who?
what makes mc soo worth to wait are zach and ari
Ari-gato and Zack-Attack!!
But does the shift lever still fall off? lol
smith jones why do you think they practically made it an auto lol
smith jones because of that one MC commute they've decided "iz notte necessarie"
That was a dealer mistake I believe.
The sight glass on the clutch reminds me of those watches with tbe exposed gears, I'm sure that was the intended aesthetic
Nice to see Adam in your team)
Best motorcycle journal as well as youtube channel.
Thanks bro. I appreciate your support.
This video is weird. I'm not against new hosts, but the way there was no introduction whatsoever (to people who don't know him, at least) is so weird. The camerawork, colours are poor, the guy is not even in focus (come on!) This is very, very off-brand, it doesn't feel like Motorcyclist, it feels like a random biker on RUclips. Hmm.
Dean Moriarty Everything about this review screams Motorcycle USA to me and I can't stand it.
Oh shush.
Yeah, we should have added a lower third. Forgot about that...
You cry so much
Hopefully Amazon never thinks of making a bike.
"Alexa, fifth gear"
Alexa - "Which episode?"
Since when have European people been small. Have you ever been to Germany? 😆
Yeah, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm from The Netherlands, which is very much PART OF Europe, and the Dutch men are the tallest in the world. If you need proof, I'm 6'5".
You should actually be 2 metres tall :)
I wish, that would have gotten my out of the military draft at the time.
means not fat as fuck
He probably meant lighter. Cause North Americans are heavier on avg.
WOW! Adam joins the motorcyclist magazine
Keep Adam. Great to see him here. Loved his motorcycle USA reviews. He tells you how a bike feels.
In other news there's still no dealers anywhere near you...
Lol.
Would love to see a comparison between this and the Yamaha tracer 900 gt.
I have a Rekluse on my dirt bike. Awesome. Never had a problem with it.
This doesn't seem like a MM video at all! Bring back Zach and Ari!
Adam Waheed in Motorcyclist Magazine 😍
Adam Waheed would be a great addition to motorcycle magazine. Has a very unique perspective, he would add a lot to the Ari and Zach dynamic!
Thanks man- yeah I am her under the MM banner now.
Nice to see Adam again! Always does a great job
I couldn't care less about Waheed. I have come to expect quality videos from this channel but this one falls pretty short of the standard. It felt more like an advertisement than an actual review of any sort. There was hardly any mention of the specs of the motorcycle. On top of that there wasn't any critical analysis worth mentioning. Thoroughly disappointed.
And WTF did they mean when they said that Europeans are shorter in general? Who the hell wrote the script and didn't anyone review it before making the video?
Adam Waheed! It's great to see you on Motorcyclist Magazine! 👍
Thanks man.
Nice to see Mr. Waheed reviewing again.
scottieray he looks permanently stoned
I like this guys quirky voice.
A T I hate his voice with a passion lol
Christian Hodges (-)
How can you hate the sound of a person's voice??? Do you hate Sponge Bob's voice???
I'm thinking your hate is more on his name.
I'd bet that if his name was changed from Waheed to Wayne, you'd have a different perspective.
bludmakesgrassgrow :-)
Seriously
You did a wrong color space conversion in the compositing in several shots. They look really dim.
Hell ya waheed in the house👍🤘He is a great fit on this channel. We demand dirt bike reviews , show em how to ride .🏍
Tyt man - thanks for the support.
Great review. And thanks for sharing the Model yr. at the start. I wish all reviewers would tell the year of the bikes they are speaking about.
Good review and good motorcycle. Nice job dude hope to see you soon!
ADAM!! Great haircut man!!
Thanks bro. I will pass along your note to Lilian my dearest stylist.
It's a refreshing look. You've historically been a bit wild. hahaha
Yeah man, we're tightening up the program for '18 and beyond. It's MotoGP from here on out, bro.
Hopefully Adam will be a permanent addition to MM! Congrats if it is!!
Yeah man, I'm here. Thanks for the well wishes.
Great to see Adam on this channel, haters gonna hate but this guy knows his stuff. Saw him in a video when he identified tyre makes blind, that got my respect. Yes he can ramble on a bit but there's gold in there, I've picked up some good riding tips listening to him.
Lol, thanks man.
Adam waheed hired by motorcyclist?!
Cianski Judging by the riding style; yes.
Great to finally see a video featuring Adam, just need an On Two Wheels with all three now!
thank you mv agusta spokesperson
I think people who know Adam respect his opinion and he compliments the crew well. He even got a hair cut. People who dont know him or seen his vids are going to be like who the F is this guy? Bike launches are different, more of an exploratory intro than a critical review.
Hey Adam, nice haircut!
Thanks bro. It's MotoGP from here on out.
eh...Adam for MC now? awesome!
Nice review, Adam. Do we love Zach and Ari? Hell yes, but live above the haters homie, keep the videos coming and of course we want you on more videos.
Thanks Jason - yeah man, mission remains the same as always.
18 years since my last new bike would be nice to locate one of these
Always had a very fond licking to the Mv’s
Guess we'll be seeing this guy a lot from now on.
triple exaust is always insanely beautiful
this guy does the best reviews.
Beautiful motorcycle, and I love the idea of automatic/manual gearbox combined together.Lack of dealership network is really offputting though.
Does anyone buy these? Every review video is a factory provided loaner, with the requisite emphasis on the positives. What we need are some owner reviews. What’s this bike like to live with, ride and service after a couple of seasons?
WOW THAT MOTO IS SICK
Adam the MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love that bike. Want one.
Hey, a great new addition to MM. That means even more awesome content!
Not using clutch lever on a bike really takes out the fun.... It's good this bike can use the lever with the auto clutch... Niceeeeee
Love Waheed!!! Hope to see him on some “On Two Wheels!”
On the wheels! If it helps with faster production of those quality and at times comical episodes, is love it
Yo waheed, been a while
What's up - happy to be here. Been posting some vids on my channel to - check her out.
Subscribed when I saw Adam! 2 thumbs up!
Who would want an automatic clutch on a motorcycle?
I would.
Maybe someone with a disability, arthritis or who is older.
Anthony G. The world needs more open minded people like you.
I bet you would love it
... a one armed rider ??
It sounds great huh? Guess we'll have to take your word for it...
Seeing as how there wasn't a single critique or negative thing talked about... this doesn't reallY qualify as a review.
More of a sales pitch really. Sounds like it came directly from their website
I mean it's a first impressions soo.. 🤔
whoaa mr Adam Waheed in MC?
god bless!
I am here. Thanks for watching and the note.
Gorgeous bike
such a great bike
Love the review, Adam; thank you. You make me miss Ari and Zack that much less. I watch those guys on MotorTrend but it "feels" different.
Zack and Ari make this channel. MC magazine, remember what happened to Top Gear UK?
I wanna see Zack do a MC commute on one of these.
Why does everyone think that riders don't want to shift the transmission?
One day all motorcycles will be automatic
Italians are great at pizza, and it's reliable food
BritishBiker Philippines
Nice. What do the British make that is reliable?
Empires?
Or you could just buy a Motus.
gotteem
Gortall
A long time ago maybe. How did that north American thing work out for them though?
What we’re the issues with the earlier models? I see a used 2016 on CycleTrader in good condition with the panniers with only 12000 miles for $9600
Nice bike. Cool review. Pretty scenery. I don't think I want any part of that clutch though.
Auto clutch?? Similar tech like on yamaha mopep??
centrifugal clutch ? i thought those are not suitable for high performance ? but i guess its very relaxing to ride, feels like a big scooter.
oh the euro4 emissions are for europe huh..? had no idea. who tf is this guy
Will it recognise the chip in the key now? Or you still won't be able to start it?
I gotta agree with a lot of the comments I've read here. Dude is obviously very knowledgeable about the motorcycle, and presents the information as it is. He's just missing the natural delivery that Ari and Zack have developed through the years. The video did feel a little canned; a good, mostly informal presentation should integrate the personality of the individual(s) presenting.
Anyway, seems like a decent bike.
With an 850mm seat height you can hardly say it is for smaller people. The price is ridiculous for an 800 as well
It's not ugly, that's for sure, but I dunno... I expect more in the looks department from MV. In the current market of course they need an ADV, but it feels more like you would buy this because MV are a cool brand rather than because this is a cool bike.
@Motorcyclist Magazine Just to let you know Sol Pogue a channel on YT stole parts of your video.
"gargantuan side bags" they look 15L each. We looking at the same bags?
I like Adam and his reviews and I hugely respect his track skills, but it kills me every time he said, "it works real good." Good is an adjective, not an adverb and real means actual, not very. "It works really well." Seriously, you're a writer/journalist, you should know this.
Comments on motorcycle vids are reliably a clustershit house.
Where did Zach and Ari go?
Good build quality for the money? I believe this lists ~$22K. That is some very built competition.
Google "tallest people in the world"
The world's 10 tallest countries
Netherlands - 1.838m.
Montenegro - 1.832m.
Denmark - 1.826m.
Norway - 1.824m.
Serbia - 1.82m.
Germany - 1.81m.
Croatia - 1.805m.
Czech Republic - 1.8031m.
Yeah, all those short Europeans... :D
But will the shift lever come off on the way to work?
just Zach and Ari thanks.
Where is the gearshift lever located on this motorcycle?
Came here for a motorcycle review but got a automatic clutch advert... Wtf
That headlight looks dated and whats with that fugly exhaust?
Well, we're shorter than Shaquille O'Neal... Didn't know that he was standard US height...
My bad, I'm just 5'11"
Google this: "List of average human height worldwide" and be surprised :-)
So it's a big postie? Yay.
That centrifugal clutch sounds like a silly gimmick. I'm curious how they decided that's something their customers want.
These factory/dealer paid reviews are not what buyers need. I have yet to find any owner reviews of the Turismo Veloce 800. Is anyone buying these?
👌 good revieuw
This isnt who i was expecting... good information but not the same energy
Nice looking bike...
Maybe show the bike more ? Point out some features as you talk
Where is zach and ari 😥😥
are european shorter people ? 3:30 made for the phillipines
Don’t like a clutch? Don’t ride a motorcycle or is it just me?
Sucks to see Adam trying to find a home, keep trying man. I just can't look at any MVs because they seem to be always in a financial bind
Well this guy have a hard time after the PROs, be nice gentlemen.
So this is it, this is the collapse of Motorcyclist Magazine. You've lost it. You had a good thing going but now that you have the viewer base to start taking money from the brands for these ads you're just ignoring the quality aspect. This is really the only motorcyclist channel that I watch and it's been so good up until about now.
Who IS this guy??
Above Mercury Hahahahaha.... I had the EXACT question in my head! This guy is like the technical manager but doesn't know shit.
Wow. You guys don't know Adam Waheed?
Jason Yergin yeah never heard of him
Well here's some info for ya. www.motorcyclistonline.com/authors/adam-waheed instagram.com/adamwaheed/?hl=en
Jason Yergin People have different talents. He might be a fantastic rider but delivering the right content for the camera is not him. Also, had never heard about him until the links were posted.
50,000km clutch life... wow that's bad. I have 200,00km on my stock Harley Clutch.