I worked in public school maintenance for 35 years and was square in the middle of the asbestos "terror crisis." First came the monitoring which rarely showed even slight traces. Then at great expense a survey and testing of all materials in the schools (paint, adhesives, tiles, piping insulation, hvac units etc etc etc had to be done and submitted. Then another plan to remove everything that contained asbestos had to be made and submitted. Then the removal began at great cost and disruption of activities. More and more testing and monitoring. Special bond millages had to be passed to pay when the general budget was overwhelmed. This took over 10 years and tens of millions of dollars for our small district to accomplish. Just when we were almost totally completed with the removal and replacement EPA, OSHA and other govt agencies changed their mind and said removal was disruptive, unnecessary and the worst way to handle asbestos. If it was in good shape and not deteriorating it was best to just leave it alone. They also determined that only one form of asbestos posed a serious threat and then when only in airborne fibers in large amounts. We had none of that type at all. I learned just how incompetent and useless govt agencies and so called experts are.
I love the depth of research that you and your son do on each of your topics this and your wonderful narrations makes this one of the greatest channels for History to be found Thank you for all you both do to bring this to the world. =)
Wish you'd been my Astrophysics lecturer. You just described the creation of the universe right after the Big Bang. The hydrogen-helium process started there.
The asbestos I was intriguing given I worked in a legal cell in the 1990s which was related to asbestos litigation in relations to its use in the Department of Defence in Australia. This was a big bit of deja vu for me. More than 2 decades ago and thousand miles from Australia. Thank you and greetings from Austria.
Chuckling so are you from Austria or Australia just kidding. Sounds interesting read a book on Libby, Montana some of the companies were down right evil.
@@letsgowinnietheflu5439 from both Austria and Australia. Yep the companies were a real disgrace. Australia has large reserves of blue asbestos. What I found of interest was a med report in the BJIM in the 90s that said Austria also had a valley that had asbestos but can't find that reference anymore. More interesting was the Histroy guy relating how a Austrian medico play a part if identifying the risks of asbestos. Learnt a lot supporting the legal team in the 90s
The part about a New Jersey asbestos factory is mostly likely talking about US Mineral Wool. If I recall, they originally used the leftover materials from the blast furnaces in town before switching to asbestos. However, back in the ‘80s and ‘90s, when the lawsuits started to roll in, even with all the money they had, there wasn’t enough to pay everything, so they folded and reformed as Isolatek. Which in the past month, the roof of their factory has caught fire twice, probably due to wiring. The irony of a fireproofing company catching fire is still funny to me.
I remember reading an article in Scientific American a couple of decades ago that presented epidemiological studies showing that more people have died from banning asbestos than from exposure to it. It is simply such a great fire retardant. Regardless, I remember in the late 70s working on lighting for plays in the ceiling area of my high school theater. The asbestos floated around like snow!
I hear you about the asbestos in the M1917, I have one of those and keep it in a box because the liner is fragile. I bring a replica with me when doing school presentations.
I'm surprised that you never mentioned the litigation against Baltimore based John Mansville. Peter Angelos made 10% of the approx. 3 billion settlement. He used this money to buy and then ruin the Baltimore Orioles.
Big shout out to Pepper industries for allowing my father and his fellow coworkers to be exposed to asbestos during the decommissioning of the USS forrestal. Big shout out to the attorneys who worked on the behalf of pepper industries to say that because my father also smoked cigarettes he did not deserve to be compensated for what they did to him. My father did not win millions of dollars from the class action lawsuit like others did. There were a few millionaires made out of what pepper did to their employees... Because of lawyers my father was not one of them. God damn them for cutting my father in half.
At the risk of being labeled a nitpiker, you mentioned at the beginning that asbestos is an element. It is a compound. If memory serves from geology or maybe it was a chemistry class, there are 9 such compounds called asbestos. Only one causes mesothelioma. That is due to the shape of the molecule.
Tom Bombadil You're wrong with almost everything you said. There are 6 types of Asbestos which are separated in to two groups, Serpentine and Amphiobole. All asbestos can cause Mesothelioma, Asbestosis and several other things, mostly due to the shape of the fibers that asbestos can leave behind in the air. A good way to describe asbestos would be as little arrows that get into the lungs, they then wreak havoc by poking the inside of the lungs, leaving scar tissue and constantly damaging your lungs from the inside until it gets stuck or caught in mucus. I used to work around Asbestos, I had to take special classes to get licensed and certified to handle it.
I know you do a lot on southern Illinois but what about slavery in southern Illinois and the old slave house in Gallatin county called the Crenshaw( old slave house in Gallatin county Illinois most people don't know if slavery in the north they used the slaves to mine salt on the saline river
The term 3rd world has nothing to do with economic development. It was applied to countries who aligned with Nato or the Soviet Union after the 2nd World War. 1st World = Nato alies 2nd World = Soviet allies 3rd World = Neutral
My feedback on your podcast it's you should remain as a podcast not invade my RUclips where I am used to seeing beautiful videos. So it's a disappointment so please take it as a feedback because you have set a standard when I click on your I find amazing videos. The podcast is great but I'm not going to sit for an hour I'm listening to the podcast. Anyway maybe other people would like it who knows in my opinion could be irrelevant but I just want to remind you you have a standard and when you deviate from that standard of doing the work someone should remind you that you're not meeting your standards. Anyway thanks for doing great videos
My feedback on your comment, despite how elequently composed it may be, is that it is petty and counterproductive to the enjoyment of those who also enjoy this format. The long format, audio podcast regularly occurs on this channel every other Tuesday and are comprised of individual THG episodes that occur on most Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays combined with some commentary. If you prefer shorter stories with pictures, as my 5 year old does, the individual episodes can be located with the youtube search feature. Happy Viewing.
I worked in public school maintenance for 35 years and was square in the middle of the asbestos "terror crisis." First came the monitoring which rarely showed even slight traces. Then at great expense a survey and testing of all materials in the schools (paint, adhesives, tiles, piping insulation, hvac units etc etc etc had to be done and submitted. Then another plan to remove everything that contained asbestos had to be made and submitted. Then the removal began at great cost and disruption of activities. More and more testing and monitoring. Special bond millages had to be passed to pay when the general budget was overwhelmed. This took over 10 years and tens of millions of dollars for our small district to accomplish. Just when we were almost totally completed with the removal and replacement EPA, OSHA and other govt agencies changed their mind and said removal was disruptive, unnecessary and the worst way to handle asbestos. If it was in good shape and not deteriorating it was best to just leave it alone. They also determined that only one form of asbestos posed a serious threat and then when only in airborne fibers in large amounts. We had none of that type at all. I learned just how incompetent and useless govt agencies and so called experts are.
Remember when The History Channel had amazingly interesting topics like this? THG is my top sub on here.
I love the depth of research that you and your son do on each of your topics this and your wonderful narrations makes this one of the greatest channels for History to be found Thank you for all you both do to bring this to the world. =)
Asbestos being a very useful and difficult to replace product reminds me very much of our current situation with plastics.
Not even close read the book on Libby, Montana.
Absolutely a great episode! Thanks again for making these podcasts! They make my day!
Wish you'd been my Astrophysics lecturer. You just described the creation of the universe right after the Big Bang. The hydrogen-helium process started there.
The asbestos I was intriguing given I worked in a legal cell in the 1990s which was related to asbestos litigation in relations to its use in the Department of Defence in Australia. This was a big bit of deja vu for me. More than 2 decades ago and thousand miles from Australia. Thank you and greetings from Austria.
Chuckling so are you from Austria or Australia just kidding. Sounds interesting read a book on Libby, Montana some of the companies were down right evil.
@@letsgowinnietheflu5439 from both Austria and Australia. Yep the companies were a real disgrace. Australia has large reserves of blue asbestos. What I found of interest was a med report in the BJIM in the 90s that said Austria also had a valley that had asbestos but can't find that reference anymore. More interesting was the Histroy guy relating how a Austrian medico play a part if identifying the risks of asbestos. Learnt a lot supporting the legal team in the 90s
The part about a New Jersey asbestos factory is mostly likely talking about US Mineral Wool. If I recall, they originally used the leftover materials from the blast furnaces in town before switching to asbestos. However, back in the ‘80s and ‘90s, when the lawsuits started to roll in, even with all the money they had, there wasn’t enough to pay everything, so they folded and reformed as Isolatek. Which in the past month, the roof of their factory has caught fire twice, probably due to wiring. The irony of a fireproofing company catching fire is still funny to me.
I remember reading an article in Scientific American a couple of decades ago that presented epidemiological studies showing that more people have died from banning asbestos than from exposure to it. It is simply such a great fire retardant. Regardless, I remember in the late 70s working on lighting for plays in the ceiling area of my high school theater. The asbestos floated around like snow!
I enjoyed this.
Over a million subs!! Your the best Lance. Up there with Dr mark Felton for quality. Loved this episode
You have good taste! THG and Mark Felton are the best.
Great episode!
Great one.
In the 60s you could buy 4×8 sheets for any project. The 50s decade you could purchase "lifetime" roof shingles .
I hear you about the asbestos in the M1917, I have one of those and keep it in a box because the liner is fragile. I bring a replica with me when doing school presentations.
This is an episode of some substance
FYI there's 4 new podcast episodes on the website if you've been binged all these and thought you were out
Helium is also used for space exploration. and rocketry.
Also used a lot in welding aluminum and other reactive materials, to the point the primary method is Heli-Arc welding.
I was waiting for someone to drop a Guy Montag reference, with all that talk about fire and salamanders.
ISENT THAT JUST HOT AIR , NO JUST ANOTHER POD CAST SEE CAST IT GOT EVRYWHERE 👌. THANKS
I'm surprised that you never mentioned the litigation against Baltimore based John Mansville. Peter Angelos made 10% of the approx. 3 billion settlement. He used this money to buy and then ruin the Baltimore Orioles.
Salamander as a symbol of French?
All good stories involve pirates. Except this one. Can't win them all.
But it does include butt pirates that took the lives of the workers who got screwed over and died so their employers could make profit.
Big shout out to Pepper industries for allowing my father and his fellow coworkers to be exposed to asbestos during the decommissioning of the USS forrestal.
Big shout out to the attorneys who worked on the behalf of pepper industries to say that because my father also smoked cigarettes he did not deserve to be compensated for what they did to him.
My father did not win millions of dollars from the class action lawsuit like others did.
There were a few millionaires made out of what pepper did to their employees...
Because of lawyers my father was not one of them.
God damn them for cutting my father in half.
Man I'm sorry that happened to your dad.
I bet the title of this video got it demonetized.
Is Lance related to the Counter?
Unlikely. The geiger counter is based on a Geiger-Müller tube, which was developed in 1928, a few years before THG was around.
At the risk of being labeled a nitpiker, you mentioned at the beginning that asbestos is an element. It is a compound. If memory serves from geology or maybe it was a chemistry class, there are 9 such compounds called asbestos. Only one causes mesothelioma. That is due to the shape of the molecule.
All asbestiforms cause mesothelioma.
Tom Bombadil
You're wrong with almost everything you said.
There are 6 types of Asbestos which are separated in to two groups, Serpentine and Amphiobole.
All asbestos can cause Mesothelioma, Asbestosis and several other things, mostly due to the shape of the fibers that asbestos can leave behind in the air.
A good way to describe asbestos would be as little arrows that get into the lungs, they then wreak havoc by poking the inside of the lungs, leaving scar tissue and constantly damaging your lungs from the inside until it gets stuck or caught in mucus.
I used to work around Asbestos, I had to take special classes to get licensed and certified to handle it.
I still have a package from Kent micronite cigarettes' ..... it cools that smoke.
Trust politicians to mess something up.
The schools I went to, until I went to a new school in 9th grade. Pretty sure I was exposed.
I know you do a lot on southern Illinois but what about slavery in southern Illinois and the old slave house in Gallatin county called the Crenshaw( old slave house in Gallatin county Illinois most people don't know if slavery in the north they used the slaves to mine salt on the saline river
The term 3rd world has nothing to do with economic development.
It was applied to countries who aligned with Nato or the Soviet Union after the 2nd World War.
1st World = Nato alies
2nd World = Soviet allies
3rd World = Neutral
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My feedback on your podcast it's you should remain as a podcast not invade my RUclips where I am used to seeing beautiful videos. So it's a disappointment so please take it as a feedback because you have set a standard when I click on your I find amazing videos. The podcast is great but I'm not going to sit for an hour I'm listening to the podcast. Anyway maybe other people would like it who knows in my opinion could be irrelevant but I just want to remind you you have a standard and when you deviate from that standard of doing the work someone should remind you that you're not meeting your standards. Anyway thanks for doing great videos
My feedback on your comment, despite how elequently composed it may be, is that it is petty and counterproductive to the enjoyment of those who also enjoy this format. The long format, audio podcast regularly occurs on this channel every other Tuesday and are comprised of individual THG episodes that occur on most Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays combined with some commentary. If you prefer shorter stories with pictures, as my 5 year old does, the individual episodes can be located with the youtube search feature. Happy Viewing.
Dude yup way off. Thousands love it. So sorry we all couldn't please you
@@MrWhatsHisFace87 I'm just happy we have fans who are passionate about the history guy.
@@benjaminrees6665 thank you for being a passionate supporter of the history guy
You know what when I see something on RUclips I don't like? I scroll by it and find something I do like .