Hi Nigel, I must admit I never understood why the eSoul was the 3rd wheel of the triplets. I absolutely love mine and and the range diffence 2 miles (If I remember correctly) its completely irrelevant. In reality I get better than advertised range anyway (over 300 miles in the summer and between 260 and the advertised range of 282 in the winter (depending on how I drive) I am so pleased you have come over to thinking the same way!!
@@EVPuzzleArguably it shouldn't matter as much as it does but I'm chuffed you have been impressed by it. When looking at what electric cars to get over the last 6 years or so I have learnt so much from you, EV Man, Kate and James, Lemon Leaf Man and Fully Charged etc. over the years so I feel as if I've successfully graduated from the College of EV Education!! 😅
Took 3 1/2 years, but you finally came round to our way of thinking! The only problem with the Soul EV is what do you replace it with (everything works so well and intuitively)... but that's not really an issue for a long time with the 7 year Kia warranty (another factor when comparing it to the E-Golf?). Nice vid, very well put. We test drove the e-Niro before pre-ordering one of the very first Soul FE's (without even seeing it), and as you say found the Niro soft and soggy (and dull, sorry). Didn't try the Kona...no point with us having a 6ft 3in son and elderly relatives that do not bend very well. Horses for courses in our case... and we tend to steer clear of boring if at all possible ( 2x Skoda Yeti owner and 11 years of Smart Roadster driving). In the future, maybe the Smart #1, but poor regen characteristics / inflexibility... plus Mercedes (Smart) know how to take the money off you for servicing etc. The Kia EV5 looks too big and the EV3 too small... we'll see!
The Kona series III is a lot bigger, and I saw a review that said it was much more efficient than the series II, what a lie. It can't be, it's heavier.
You are spot on with your observations. I’ve had the MG5 for 3 years and yes I’d love a fancy car but the MG does everything I want so why waste money on a more expensive car. I would normally swap cars at 3 years but I don’t see the point now. It’s cheap to run, works well so may as well keep what I’ve got. I would be looking at a soul / Kona but they will just have to wait
I have had my E Niro 4+ for just over two and a half years. Loved the car and the flexibility of the 64kWh battery has been great. It gives many more journies that can be completed through use of home charging at 7.5p per kWh. A smaller battery car would mean many more tripshat would require a stop and charge at the higher prced rapid charging. Car shape is always a personal choice. As you say more choices are better so all of us can have something that fits in.
There's a book there, just waiting to be written... "What EV to Buy and Why". Subtitled: "A definitive Guide to Purchasing an Electric Vehicle". All of the points you discuss in this video, and many more, explained and perhaps even with a decision-making matrix to guide the reader to the best outcome? There you go, Nigel, should be right up your alley!
A writer, I think not, I can't even write a script , I'm far too spontaneous for that but what a great idea💡 The only problem is people. People are so fickle they actually buy cars for very odd non sensical reasons
Having had a kona mild hybrid, now I have a Niro Ev level 4 which I totally love , also my housemate has a kia soul 2016 , and they are all perfect in their own way
Two hundred mile round trips are a pain in most EVs in that you have to charge even though the two legs are only 100 miles. One reason I wouldn't go for a low range EV. It used to be a bit of a pain when I had a Zoe ZE40 because it added half an hour to to two hour return leg. If everywhere had destination chargers the problem would go away but until then a longer range car is the answer
@@geoffersvoiceofreason2534 only the pricey ones. The stellantis offerings will generally struggle to do 200 miles in the winter other than the very latest cars. I have a friend with a three year old model three that only just manages 200 miles on a charge. I agree the 64 kWh Kia and Hyundai offerings are exceptionally good range wise but are still the exception. I like the Soul but £20 k still more than I'm willing to pay for a car as I do a very low mileage
My wife has had her e soul for 2 years. One of the downsides is that the range and efficiency reduces quite significantly at 70mph motorway speeds. Very good around town though and on slower roads. I guess that shape has a lot to do with it. The e-Niro which I have had for a few days trial is much better. Slow charging speeds and range loss at speed are minor problems. Good car though. My model Y is much more efficient again.
Just got a 2022 e-Soul, and here in Canada it's the winter energy consumption that makes the large battery a must. Quebec province, where I live, has 99% renewable electricity (hydro), so that's a plus too. Very pleased so far - I particularly like the more upright A-pillars since this improves the forward span visibility. This, and the clear view of the edges of the hood (bonnet) reminds me of my old Volvo 244 and second generation Golf.
Picked up my ŠKODA Enyaq yesterday! Love it already and can’t wait to take the family out in it later. Intelligent Go already set up so cheap ⚡️ for house, 🔋and 🚙!! Yay!!
@@EVPuzzle just a vanilla 60 (actually it is a Lounge) - second hand with nearly 20,000 miles on the clock so it will probably need a new battery in around 18 months…. I mean years!! 🤣
As ever an interesting video...we have a 77kwh id3 and a Soul FE . both registered June 2021. The Soul is a great car but feels much less modern than the id3. Regards range, as with other EV'S, the Soul's range is massively affected by driving at 60ish, rather than an indicated 75. I suspect Susan's excellent figures reflect that, as a recent 200 mile motorway journey returned used all the battery..that was with most miles 70 plus at 5C...
That explains her excellent results...I think the main advantage of the id3 is that it is EV only, cars like the Soul where there are fossil fuel derivatives are more compromised...biggest difference is the absolutely amazing turning circle of the id3
lower top speed makes a huge difference, as it does with a ICE engine, irs just that we don't notice it and thereby lies the problem. [I was as guilty as the next person when younger]. Ev's encourages one to take your time, its lovely.
I've been a user of instavolt for a few years, but what they charge per KW is now putting me off them. Your journey from Norfolk to Bedford, you should aim to stop off a Tesla charger at Thetford or Cambridge. Now, they are open to all at certain locations , get the app, and your charge would be half the cost. Anyway, nice videos, keep it up, and Merry Christmas.
Too old for excitement, so very very pleased with my KONA series II purchase, from the money point of view, [ saving 25k AUD on expected price to the yet to be released NEW KONA EV here] the fact that we dont have to be so precious or nervous about scuffing it, or being hit in a carpark by an unthinking open door person, and still with 5.5 years left on the warrantee. And yes people its way big enough for us. Had it loaded to the gunwalls against a 30/35 km headwind, 258km, and 26% left on arrival [97 to 100kph]. Road was quiet.
Kia e-Niro IMHO better than either. We're 2 years into a 3 year deal and very happy. More space than Kona and more popular. Apologies if you mention it, just seen your notification and will watch vid later
Very informative, well done. I have spent a month looking at EV's, currently own a Audi A5 Diesel. Came across the best 300 mile EV's, shortlisted to Skoda, Kia or Hyundai. Test drove a Hyundai Kona, Premium, excellent to drive. Done more research, the Ultimate is what I opted for, collecting from a Hyundai garage soon. PS, why didn't your wife like the Kona? I looked at the E Niro, wasn't as good as the Kona.
I agree Kona drives better . Think is was the grey interior . She likes the darker Kia interior other than it's a woman thing . I've no idea because Kona is better 🤣
Nilgel, surely the &6k differential has to be amortised over the time you’re going to keep the car. We’ve bought a 21 plate Kona 64kwh this October (our fourth) for 20k and we see this as our final purchase. We have a Tesla model 3 also but swmbo won’t drive it and wanted the assurance that she could go to her sisters in Oxon without having to charge. Despite the fact that they have a Tesla as well as so have a home charger. The previous Kona was a 39kwh and was perfectly capable of doing the journey, in the summer, it would’ve done it both ways without charging , but she always used to get nervous when we got 10miles from home on the return journey and the GOM was very low. So over the life over the car and the time you own it the £6000 becomes fairly cheap. That’s if you can resist changing it in a year or two as I know you like a newer car fairly regularly. Which is a bit like me as well.
Interesting video, thank you. Just wondered, does the Soul or any of the three have bidirectional charging so you can link them into your house battery? It would make them great complimentary additions to a solar/battery system.
No none have V2H but it is possible via V2L to output to a home battery IF you have a capable inverter like the victron Quattro True bidirectional charging isn't here yet for CCS
Niro EV 2022 onwards has bi-directional - V2L can supply 3500W - not a full house battery, but regularly runs the tumble drier in the morning and all the kids PS5/ Gaming Laptops/Switch and large TV in the evening while we’re still of peak rate electric, then recharges on 7.5p cheap electric overnight
That's interesting, I am building myself an off grid farmstead. Connection cost is over 50% of a full solar setup. The only limitation is needing a diesel generator backup for long dull periods. A 3.5k boost could be the answer to 'a maidens prayer' as they say. Thanks.@@chrisp7839
I drive a 2022 model year Mini Cooper S E L3 and a 2023 model year D250 6 cylinder turbo diesel Defender 90 and the trip fuel costs differences at this time of year are stark. I can pre-condition the cabins of both cars and in the Defender that also warms the engine up. At todays electricity and diesel prices my normal 2 times a week 32 miles round trip to the nearest Sainsbury superstore costs me £1.25 in the Mini and £7.31 at 39mpg in the Defender. I know that the Defender is pretty economical in warmer times and I can easily get 37-39mpg on the run, that it isn’t your average family car and is running on AT tyres not the road tyres of the Mini but even my sister’s 2014 Honda Jazz that averages 60mph struggles to match the Mini’s efficiency. Mini in the last month has averaged 3.9 miles/kWh (temperatures down to -7C here and strong winds) and this week hasn’t dropped below 4.1m/kWh so in mpg that’s approx 160mpg ! I test drove a Fisker Ocean Extreme last week within the city of Glasgow, -4C but pouring with rain and that even managed 3m/kWh on its 22” road wheels and tyres on a 10 mile test route of motorway and city streets mostly at between 30 and 50mph.
Hi Nigel. Picked up a KONA series II premium EXT range. Very nervous on the drive home its so different. [I am 76] Anyway plugged it in now the solar is producing 2.5kw and will turn it off about 4pm. Summer here in South Australia. Managed to lock the charger in, and had to read A LOT. what does the auto hold do please???? cheers Andrew.
EV powertrains are usually set up to mimick a typical ICE automatic and therefore creep forward when the vehicle is stopped. Auto hold turns the creep off and the car will sit still when stopped and not try to creep forward. Sadly the default setting is creep on so you have to set autohold on each time you start the car..
@@EVPuzzle we use it daily, but then we have solar, but no house battery. We do washing, dishwasher on cheap rate, in the morning we plug in an extension to the car. Plugged into this is the tumble dryer, In the evening our daughters, who are avid gamers, plug in their huge telly, PS 5, and gaming Pc. This saves us a fortune as they are pretty energy intensive. With V2L, we have no need of a house battery,
I'm looking for a s/h EV that can tow a trailer. Was thinking of MG 4 or 5 but they're only rated for 500Kg. That will do my bike trailer but I also have a small car transporter trailer for the Fox, which comes to just under 1 tonne loaded. Do you know the towing capacity of the E-Soul, Niro, Kona? I can't find it anywhere online.
Not that it makes much difference to the price, but my 2014 skoda Octavia estate 1.6 tdi average 65 mpg at 68mph (not a small car IMHO) I do want an ev btw just waiting for the right time for my circumstances
We need public charging to come down in price don't we? If you weren't able to charge cheaply at home before leaving and only charged on public chargers then it would have cost about £40 wouldn't it? Quite a bit more expensive than the alternatives at the moment and it seems unfair to those who don't have a driveway and can't take advantage of the cheap charging.
Thankfully that 'what if' just doesn't happen . One of the huge benefits of an EV is electricity is available everywhere . The range of charging options will keep improving too
@@EVPuzzleI wasn’t really talking about your situation as you would always charge at home before leaving. I was just making a general comment about the inequality of cost of journeys to those without a driveway.
I’m going from the Musk device to the BYD Seal which in Australia is equivalent of £33K fully loaded. Would never consider going back……..either way, if you get my meaning.
@@EVPuzzle Chinese vehicles are basically no different to Japanese of the 70s. You’d swear it was made by BMW….a dealership killer. They make our phones, electric motors and batteries in our powered devices. China, SE Asia and Australasia in the same trade zone and the tesla, we are getting rid of, are of Japanese export quality. The China fear thing is survival strategy for the uncompetitive. TBH has an MG full of Bosch (China) VW parts.
@@EVPuzzle , ATM we have an Ionic 5, 2.0L 200BHP Ford Kuga and Fiesta in the drive. I have been trying to decide what EV to replace the Kuga with. I like the Niro aver the old Kona, but prefer the new Kona over the Niro now. I have friends who own both, and the Soul as well. My preferred car was the EV6, but couldn’t get on when I wanted to buy. It kills me every time I have to fill up the ICE vehicles, just money down the drain, and money that’s going to regimes that I despise. I can’t wait to replace them, but at an affordable price.
Hi Nigel, I must admit I never understood why the eSoul was the 3rd wheel of the triplets. I absolutely love mine and and the range diffence 2 miles (If I remember correctly) its completely irrelevant. In reality I get better than advertised range anyway (over 300 miles in the summer and between 260 and the advertised range of 282 in the winter (depending on how I drive) I am so pleased you have come over to thinking the same way!!
It's great to find an EV that truly surprises me . So many dissappoint.
@@EVPuzzleArguably it shouldn't matter as much as it does but I'm chuffed you have been impressed by it. When looking at what electric cars to get over the last 6 years or so I have learnt so much from you, EV Man, Kate and James, Lemon Leaf Man and Fully Charged etc. over the years so I feel as if I've successfully graduated from the College of EV Education!! 😅
interesting.
Took 3 1/2 years, but you finally came round to our way of thinking! The only problem with the Soul EV is what do you replace it with (everything works so well and intuitively)... but that's not really an issue for a long time with the 7 year Kia warranty (another factor when comparing it to the E-Golf?). Nice vid, very well put. We test drove the e-Niro before pre-ordering one of the very first Soul FE's (without even seeing it), and as you say found the Niro soft and soggy (and dull, sorry). Didn't try the Kona...no point with us having a 6ft 3in son and elderly relatives that do not bend very well. Horses for courses in our case... and we tend to steer clear of boring if at all possible ( 2x Skoda Yeti owner and 11 years of Smart Roadster driving). In the future, maybe the Smart #1, but poor regen characteristics / inflexibility... plus Mercedes (Smart) know how to take the money off you for servicing etc. The Kia EV5 looks too big and the EV3 too small... we'll see!
Totally agree, it's not the most exciting car but nothing equals it ....bar maybe an Enyak Sport line but they're huge and not efficient 🤷
The Kona series III is a lot bigger, and I saw a review that said it was much more efficient than the series II, what a lie. It can't be, it's heavier.
You are spot on with your observations. I’ve had the MG5 for 3 years and yes I’d love a fancy car but the MG does everything I want so why waste money on a more expensive car. I would normally swap cars at 3 years but I don’t see the point now. It’s cheap to run, works well so may as well keep what I’ve got. I would be looking at a soul / Kona but they will just have to wait
I have had my E Niro 4+ for just over two and a half years. Loved the car and the flexibility of the 64kWh battery has been great. It gives many more journies that can be completed through use of home charging at 7.5p per kWh. A smaller battery car would mean many more tripshat would require a stop and charge at the higher prced rapid charging.
Car shape is always a personal choice. As you say more choices are better so all of us can have something that fits in.
There's a book there, just waiting to be written... "What EV to Buy and Why". Subtitled: "A definitive Guide to Purchasing an Electric Vehicle". All of the points you discuss in this video, and many more, explained and perhaps even with a decision-making matrix to guide the reader to the best outcome? There you go, Nigel, should be right up your alley!
A writer, I think not, I can't even write a script , I'm far too spontaneous for that but what a great idea💡
The only problem is people. People are so fickle they actually buy cars for very odd non sensical reasons
Having had a kona mild hybrid, now I have a Niro Ev level 4 which I totally love , also my housemate has a kia soul 2016 , and they are all perfect in their own way
Two hundred mile round trips are a pain in most EVs in that you have to charge even though the two legs are only 100 miles. One reason I wouldn't go for a low range EV. It used to be a bit of a pain when I had a Zoe ZE40 because it added half an hour to to two hour return leg. If everywhere had destination chargers the problem would go away but until then a longer range car is the answer
? “Most EVs? My Kona (64Kwh). Will do 270 miles plus, on one charge. Most modern EVs will do a 20 round mile journeys, no 0roblem.
@@geoffersvoiceofreason2534 only the pricey ones. The stellantis offerings will generally struggle to do 200 miles in the winter other than the very latest cars. I have a friend with a three year old model three that only just manages 200 miles on a charge. I agree the 64 kWh Kia and Hyundai offerings are exceptionally good range wise but are still the exception. I like the Soul but £20 k still more than I'm willing to pay for a car as I do a very low mileage
My wife has had her e soul for 2 years. One of the downsides is that the range and efficiency reduces quite significantly at 70mph motorway speeds. Very good around town though and on slower roads. I guess that shape has a lot to do with it. The e-Niro which I have had for a few days trial is much better. Slow charging speeds and range loss at speed are minor problems. Good car though. My model Y is much more efficient again.
Just got a 2022 e-Soul, and here in Canada it's the winter energy consumption that makes the large battery a must. Quebec province, where I live, has 99% renewable electricity (hydro), so that's a plus too. Very pleased so far - I particularly like the more upright A-pillars since this improves the forward span visibility. This, and the clear view of the edges of the hood (bonnet) reminds me of my old Volvo 244 and second generation Golf.
Surprising how so few cars go for this config . It's good to be different
Picked up my ŠKODA Enyaq yesterday! Love it already and can’t wait to take the family out in it later. Intelligent Go already set up so cheap ⚡️ for house, 🔋and 🚙!! Yay!!
Which model , I do love the enyak in sport line especially. Great car 👏
Which model , I do love the enyak in sport line especially. Great car 👏
@@EVPuzzle just a vanilla 60 (actually it is a Lounge) - second hand with nearly 20,000 miles on the clock so it will probably need a new battery in around 18 months…. I mean years!! 🤣
As ever an interesting video...we have a 77kwh id3 and a Soul FE . both registered June 2021. The Soul is a great car but feels much less modern than the id3. Regards range, as with other EV'S, the Soul's range is massively affected by driving at 60ish, rather than an indicated 75. I suspect Susan's excellent figures reflect that, as a recent 200 mile motorway journey returned used all the battery..that was with most miles 70 plus at 5C...
Susan tops at about 65mph
That explains her excellent results...I think the main advantage of the id3 is that it is EV only, cars like the Soul where there are fossil fuel derivatives are more compromised...biggest difference is the absolutely amazing turning circle of the id3
lower top speed makes a huge difference, as it does with a ICE engine, irs just that we don't notice it and thereby lies the problem. [I was as guilty as the next person when younger]. Ev's encourages one to take your time, its lovely.
I've been a user of instavolt for a few years, but what they charge per KW is now putting me off them. Your journey from Norfolk to Bedford, you should aim to stop off a Tesla charger at Thetford or Cambridge. Now, they are open to all at certain locations , get the app, and your charge would be half the cost. Anyway, nice videos, keep it up, and Merry Christmas.
Haven't tried Tesla yet but these days we don't need the charge . Susan arrived using 41%, should have loads left on the return leg
I think the Soul is a great looking car
Agreed by far my favourite of the 3 (and beyond to be honest)
Too old for excitement, so very very pleased with my KONA series II purchase, from the money point of view, [ saving 25k AUD on expected price to the yet to be released NEW KONA EV here] the fact that we dont have to be so precious or nervous about scuffing it, or being hit in a carpark by an unthinking open door person, and still with 5.5 years left on the warrantee. And yes people its way big enough for us.
Had it loaded to the gunwalls against a 30/35 km headwind, 258km, and 26% left on arrival [97 to 100kph]. Road was quiet.
Kia e-Niro IMHO better than either. We're 2 years into a 3 year deal and very happy. More space than Kona and more popular. Apologies if you mention it, just seen your notification and will watch vid later
We get better than advertised economy, our long term average is about 4.3 miles/kwh
Very informative, well done.
I have spent a month looking at EV's, currently own a Audi A5 Diesel. Came across the best 300 mile EV's, shortlisted to Skoda, Kia or Hyundai. Test drove a Hyundai Kona, Premium, excellent to drive. Done more research, the Ultimate is what I opted for, collecting from a Hyundai garage soon.
PS, why didn't your wife like the Kona?
I looked at the E Niro, wasn't as good as the Kona.
I agree Kona drives better . Think is was the grey interior . She likes the darker Kia interior other than it's a woman thing . I've no idea because Kona is better 🤣
Nilgel, surely the &6k differential has to be amortised over the time you’re going to keep the car. We’ve bought a 21 plate Kona 64kwh this October (our fourth) for 20k and we see this as our final purchase. We have a Tesla model 3 also but swmbo won’t drive it and wanted the assurance that she could go to her sisters in Oxon without having to charge. Despite the fact that they have a Tesla as well as so have a home charger. The previous Kona was a 39kwh and was perfectly capable of doing the journey, in the summer, it would’ve done it both ways without charging , but she always used to get nervous when we got 10miles from home on the return journey and the GOM was very low.
So over the life over the car and the time you own it the £6000 becomes fairly cheap.
That’s if you can resist changing it in a year or two as I know you like a newer car fairly regularly. Which is a bit like me as well.
I get the feeling this time the Soul will be around for many years if it behaves as it should
@@EVPuzzle I'm thinking the upcoming 2025 range for the EV5 & EV4 might be replacing the Soul. I really like ours, great fun to drive.
Interesting video, thank you. Just wondered, does the Soul or any of the three have bidirectional charging so you can link them into your house battery? It would make them great complimentary additions to a solar/battery system.
The Soul doesn't but it has been discontinued the new versions of the others may have bidirectional charging but as a guess I would say no they don't.
No none have V2H but it is possible via V2L to output to a home battery IF you have a capable inverter like the victron Quattro
True bidirectional charging isn't here yet for CCS
I have a 2021 Soul, no bidirectional charging I'm afraid.
Niro EV 2022 onwards has bi-directional - V2L can supply 3500W - not a full house battery, but regularly runs the tumble drier in the morning and all the kids PS5/ Gaming Laptops/Switch and large TV in the evening while we’re still of peak rate electric, then recharges on 7.5p cheap electric overnight
That's interesting, I am building myself an off grid farmstead. Connection cost is over 50% of a full solar setup. The only limitation is needing a diesel generator backup for long dull periods. A 3.5k boost could be the answer to 'a maidens prayer' as they say. Thanks.@@chrisp7839
I drive a 2022 model year Mini Cooper S E L3 and a 2023 model year D250 6 cylinder turbo diesel Defender 90 and the trip fuel costs differences at this time of year are stark. I can pre-condition the cabins of both cars and in the Defender that also warms the engine up. At todays electricity and diesel prices my normal 2 times a week 32 miles round trip to the nearest Sainsbury superstore costs me £1.25 in the Mini and £7.31 at 39mpg in the Defender. I know that the Defender is pretty economical in warmer times and I can easily get 37-39mpg on the run, that it isn’t your average family car and is running on AT tyres not the road tyres of the Mini but even my sister’s 2014 Honda Jazz that averages 60mph struggles to match the Mini’s efficiency. Mini in the last month has averaged 3.9 miles/kWh (temperatures down to -7C here and strong winds) and this week hasn’t dropped below 4.1m/kWh so in mpg that’s approx 160mpg !
I test drove a Fisker Ocean Extreme last week within the city of Glasgow, -4C but pouring with rain and that even managed 3m/kWh on its 22” road wheels and tyres on a 10 mile test route of motorway and city streets mostly at between 30 and 50mph.
It's actually called Soul EV now, eSoul was the moniker for the previous generation.
Hi Nigel. Picked up a KONA series II premium EXT range. Very nervous on the drive home its so different. [I am 76] Anyway plugged it in now the solar is producing 2.5kw and will turn it off about 4pm. Summer here in South Australia. Managed to lock the charger in, and had to read A LOT.
what does the auto hold do please???? cheers Andrew.
EV powertrains are usually set up to mimick a typical ICE automatic and therefore creep forward when the vehicle is stopped. Auto hold turns the creep off and the car will sit still when stopped and not try to creep forward. Sadly the default setting is creep on so you have to set autohold on each time you start the car..
@Timbofr3 Now worked that out, lots to learn, many thanks. Its a lovely ride and the seats are awesome, though I use a sheep skin.
Of course, the later model Niro EV has vehicle to load, so that makes it a lot more useful
'Lot'?😉
V2l isn't something I'm excited by .
I wouldn't use it even if our car had it
@@EVPuzzle we use it daily, but then we have solar, but no house battery. We do washing, dishwasher on cheap rate, in the morning we plug in an extension to the car. Plugged into this is the tumble dryer, In the evening our daughters, who are avid gamers, plug in their huge telly, PS 5, and gaming Pc. This saves us a fortune as they are pretty energy intensive. With V2L, we have no need of a house battery,
I'm looking for a s/h EV that can tow a trailer. Was thinking of MG 4 or 5 but they're only rated for 500Kg. That will do my bike trailer but I also have a small car transporter trailer for the Fox, which comes to just under 1 tonne loaded.
Do you know the towing capacity of the E-Soul, Niro, Kona? I can't find it anywhere online.
I don't think they were ever rated for towing at all. Absolutely no idea why not though
@@EVPuzzle Thanks. It seems that not many EVs were up until now. BYD seal is good for 1500Kg but I don't have the wedge for a new'un.
Not that it makes much difference to the price, but my 2014 skoda Octavia estate 1.6 tdi average 65 mpg at 68mph (not a small car IMHO) I do want an ev btw just waiting for the right time for my circumstances
We need public charging to come down in price don't we? If you weren't able to charge cheaply at home before leaving and only charged on public chargers then it would have cost about £40 wouldn't it? Quite a bit more expensive than the alternatives at the moment and it seems unfair to those who don't have a driveway and can't take advantage of the cheap charging.
Thankfully that 'what if' just doesn't happen . One of the huge benefits of an EV is electricity is available everywhere .
The range of charging options will keep improving too
@@EVPuzzleI wasn’t really talking about your situation as you would always charge at home before leaving. I was just making a general comment about the inequality of cost of journeys to those without a driveway.
A used Ioniq 6 would be a good deal. Hyundai efficiency and supposed to be quite a responsive drive as well.
Bigger Hyundai's aren't as efficient by quite a margin . Still dont understand why to be honest
I’m going from the Musk device to the BYD Seal which in Australia is equivalent of £33K fully loaded. Would never consider going back……..either way, if you get my meaning.
Byd? Brave man . What's the support like over there, nothing here in the UK
@@EVPuzzle Chinese vehicles are basically no different to Japanese of the 70s. You’d swear it was made by BMW….a dealership killer.
They make our phones, electric motors and batteries in our powered devices. China, SE Asia and Australasia in the same trade zone and the tesla, we are getting rid of, are of Japanese export quality. The China fear thing is survival strategy for the uncompetitive.
TBH has an MG full of Bosch (China) VW parts.
@@EVPuzzle 100 dealers by end of 2024 in uk
@@chriss4949 that won't be new ones I'm presuming so who are they aligning with ?
Do any of the triplets have V2L ?
New versions do yes 👍
New versions do yes 👍
The new Kona is much nicer looking than the Niro, it has been elongated. I would definitely consider it as a second car.
Wow what's the first car . Lucky to have that as 2nd car
Wow what's the first car . Lucky to have that as 2nd car
Wow what's the first car . Lucky to have that as 2nd car
Wow what's the first car . Lucky to have that as 2nd car
@@EVPuzzle , ATM we have an Ionic 5, 2.0L 200BHP Ford Kuga and Fiesta in the drive. I have been trying to decide what EV to replace the Kuga with. I like the Niro aver the old Kona, but prefer the new Kona over the Niro now. I have friends who own both, and the Soul as well. My preferred car was the EV6, but couldn’t get on when I wanted to buy.
It kills me every time I have to fill up the ICE vehicles, just money down the drain, and money that’s going to regimes that I despise. I can’t wait to replace them, but at an affordable price.
You have personally experienced the psychological process of cognitive dissonance. 😂
Do they do a sporty variant, the R Soul?
Yeah the R Soul is good on runs and trots around town nicely!
No, but maybe I should pimp it up with sport seats a roof spoiler and some 19” rims 😉🤣
No you can get a second hand Kona electric 2020 for less than £12k
Yep higher mileage Hyundai's and Kias are great value right now