This poor guy was pushed or fell to his death, and then people, who were with him moments before are seen stepping over his body and running away. Not even stopping for a second to see if he was alive or dead. And the police don't want to investigate? Typical. The Metropolitan police are a complete disgrace. Poisonous from top to bottom. Something has got to be done, they are clearly not fit for purpose.
@@caveman5187 . So he deserved to be pushed out of a window? They were all high and drunk. They left him to rot on the ground. You must be a real piece of work.
@@jeanettehinds4253 I didn't say that. I'm just saying I don't feel sorry for him either. The road he took led him to that situation, he was a 6'4 man trying to intimidate and bully people he barley knew. Stop trying to make him out to be the perfect son and an innocent victim. He most likely did it to himself because he realised how embarrassing he'd acted.
*WOW. Just…wow.* I’m just blown away at the level of incompetence in this investigation. I pray Mark’s family and friends find the answers that bring them *some* comfort… *and if this flat has been a “drug den” for 25+ YEARS I’d say the local police must get a nice kickback*
"Drug Den" sounds so dramatic. A home where an addict lived maybe. Or even a house where parties took place and drugs were taken. That being the case there's alot more "Drug dens" out there than initially thought. I don't think Pete Doherty guilty of anything but being a heroin addict who was worried of getting arrested AGAIN and having to go through withdrawals. That and also a lack of humanity as drugs make you very selfish. Neither are a crime
I think it's wrong that Pete has his name dragged in as the front runner to know what happened. Just because he's famous and led a chaotic lifestyle doesn't mean he's guilty and has all the answers
Actually the reason why the man went to the flat was to speak to Pete about a theatre production. He was only there for a minute before he was over the balcony and dying. A news article shared that Petes minder Johnny 'Headlock' Jeannevol admitted to pushing him over the balcony then later retracted his statement. So it sounds like pete was the reason the man visited the flat and is the reason why the man ended up dead. Also witnesses heard noises neighbours told the news they heard shouting and swearing before the man was over the balcony.
Is anyone thinking it an ‘odd’ coincidence that Mark was due to star in a play just days later (The Accidental Death of an Anarchist) which featured a man who falls suspiciously to his death from a police window. It is stated by witnesses that Mark was very excited about this play, turned up at the flat with the promotional poster in his hand and was waving it under Pete Doherty’s nose. The poster depicts a man falling head first from a balcony railing. I think he was getting in Pete’s face about this play, maybe pushing him to attend the opening and when Pete’s ‘security’ henchmen are beckoned to remove him from the premises (as witnesses and they themselves attest to) they rough him up and do something along the lines of ‘you wanna star in a play where someone falls to their death…here you go mate’ and throw him from the balcony. The poster and play content he was pushing Pete about ‘inspired’ them to teach him a lesson in such a manner. If i was feeling really crazy i might even suggest Mark was loosely inspired by events that had occurred at the flat years earlier when Curriffe (Sp?) fell to his death from the roof after also associating with the group who frequented the flat.
Well thought out and probably close to the truth. I know that block of flats very well, someone I used to know had a flat there and used it as an endpoint for liquid ketamine smuggled in rosewater bottles using fake Bangladesh names
@@willmac5642 liquid ketamine smuggled in rosewater bottles? Haha you must just believe every tall tale you hear on the streets. Very gullible if you believe that
Anyone familiar with LHP/Dark Occulted or Masonic ritual, will be able to connect the dots on this case. It has all the hallmarks of a ritualistic sacrifice, using the modalities of Predictive Programming and Revelation of the Method, to prep the victim and public of what was coming. The very fact Doherty went back to the exact location to record a music video for 'The lost art of murder' only a short while after Blanco's death, tells you everything you need to know. MM = Masonic Mockery (33).
I think you were on the right lines until you got to the bit about Pete’s ‘henchmen’ throwing him over the balcony to enact the storyline of his play. That sounds farcical. I think what’s more like is there was a drunken grapple between the ‘henchmen’ and Blanco as they ejected him. Blanco himself was reported to be very drunk that night. He was very tall as well, so less protected by a railing than a shorter person. Whether he was pushed or it was an accident or he staggered over it, I can’t imagine we’ll ever find out, sadly for his mum, but I can’t imagine he was thrown over the balcony in some deliberate execution. They were all pissed up, probably grappling, pushing & shoving, and an accident happened. Might potentially be a manslaughter if it could ever be pinpointed exactly what happened, but as I say - very unlikely now.
No it's not, and I think we both know that was an accusation rather than a question. Maybe Blanco should have thought about assaulting people whilst intoxicated.
I don't understand? Why should he have thought about doing that? In my country you're breaking the law if you ignore someone in need of assistance, and I would've thought UK laws were on the same level. It was never an accusation, just an observation and a question combined.
@@joak.vintage Well fair enough, I didn't realise you weren't from the UK. But to answer your question, no it's not a crime unless there's a designated responsibility.
Why don't you reflect inwards on why you felt the need to write that comment? Have you any experience in "getting help" to someone who is an addict? If not, maybe you can create a youtube short with your tips and tricks, I'm sure it's helpful. The focus on this journalistic piece isn't on unsuccessful interventions or the pain and suffering from a mom trying to help her son, it's about someone falling to their death - either by accident or from an external force. Are you a big Pete Doherty fan or just oblivious to the world we live in? It doesn't matter if you're rich, resourceful or the kindest soul in the world - it's really hard helping someone recover from addiction because they are the ones that need to do the hardest work. @@danh5637
@@becky2235 shocking! The most insensitive thing I’ve ever heard too. It used to be the police recruits were ex-Army/Marines where they already have a great deal of professionalism,discipline,authority and generally have a lot of life skills to deal with difficult situations and most importantly…. Common sense! Now they seem like young middle-class wet behind the ears types, taking a break from uni for a few years as it looks good on their cv. God help us all. Another poorly managed failing institution.
The older i get the more I'm forced to contend with the fact that in some cases the truth may never exist. It's one of the hardest things to accept, especially in the case of a tragedy like this one.
wellcome to the real world,the police is racist,lazy,incompetent and no,we are not all equal in the eyes of the law/police. very sad for your loss, rip. hope you find justice.
The Police needs to save its sympathies and do it’s job. Mark, was murdered. With a multitude of witnesses present. It’s devastating that the officer told Marks mother Sheila that she could hold onto Marks glass/lens as a “keepsake” and it wasn’t taken in as evidence, it’s obvious that the officers who first investigated Marks death where corrupt. Sheila is a very strong woman. Hoping this family receives justice.
I’m not sure it is “obvious” that they were corrupt - incompetence seems more likely. To claim they’re corrupt means someone has paid them off. Who? Pete? He was a heroin addict so I think the chances of him having a bunch of money lying around is unlikely. Okay, probably his management team/record label then? Nope, they were under Rough Trade Records at the time, a very small independent label. It’s unlikely they would have enough money to influence the police. Is the whole thing suspicious? Absolutely is it. But I don’t see any evidence to indicate the police were corrupted. This sort of shoddy investigating is not uncommon with the Met. You only hear about this one because Shiela is so outspoken about it. I haven’t seen this documentary yet, but I’m going to assume they missed out that at the time Mark was dating a 17 year old drug addict (who turned 18 that day) and who has defended Pete, was incredibly drunk and picking fights with people all night. Does that excuse his death? Of course not, but it does paint a different picture to the one I suspect this documentary showed. Unfortunately for Shiela, she will never know what happened. Pete Doherty is a very troubled individual as were a lot of those he hung around with - Including Mark. I have no doubt that someone murdered him, but the public trying to play Cluedo with it doesn’t help anyone. Only those who were there know what happened, and I can promise you that information will die with them
@@Paulstrickland01 and you feel the need to point that out ? Oh well I’m entitled to say that I’m thinking of his family! Really no need to be so unkind , but hey you might be feeling sad at the moment , and needing to lash out. If so , I hope you feel better soon 🙏
@@lovedaybebe5881 Yeah I did because people like you think you're saying the most profoundly deep and meaningful stuff but you're not, you just vomit words you think have meaning now don't bring up entitlement because you're not entitled to say what you want anymore than I am and in fact your rights to speech ends at the tip of your nose now I know you're a female but I'm not and I don't view and behave according to emotions with every little thing so you're only talking down to yourself here because it's just a simple case of mocking a fool that doesn't require feeling sad or needing to lash out. 😂😂👏 Good talk.
Tenant of said flat was a police informer. He also had contacts in the media and celebrity world. He was useful to the police, they turned a blind eye. Goes on all the time.
I think it's a big contradiction that Sheila Blanco judges Peter on the one hand but at the same time is using his famous name in her own interest. This film is painting a one-sided picture and condemns Peter of just being a messed up drug addict while Mark is described as a generous genius. If her son would have been popular she wouldn't have needed to pull Peters name threw the dirt which had been done enough. She has every right to be upset and that Peter failed his obligation to stand the ground puts a bad very light on him for sure. But to point the index finger on him now and to say after sixteen years of failed investigation "he wasn't some Saint." Is that objective? Is that right? Her anger and frustration is understandable only in this case she is blaming the wrong person.
Yeah the title of this documentary and the intense focus on a guy who happened to be at the party (no evidence he was involved in the crime) is ridiculous. A clear cheap attempt at publicity. And the whole narrative of “this actual genius is just a drug addict, while my undiscovered actor son is the real genius.” It’s completely deranged. It doesn’t help her case at all.
Who cares how popular any of them were? A man died, popular or not that is wrong. Doherty ran away, more scared of being arrested for possession. Ran away like a coward after picking up his bag first.
There are people who give off bad energy and bad things around them happen, thing is they seem to get off Scott free , not saying they are directly involved but avoid these people.
It should be illegal to flee a scene of someone in severe distress, injured or danger of dying. These junkie scumbags were only thinking of themselves. "In France, the law requires anyone to assist a person in danger or at the very least call for help." The Good Samaratan Law exists in many countries. "In Germany, failure to provide first aid to a person in need is punishable under 323c of its criminal penal code."
Excuse me I'm on the side of recovering addicts having a loved one struggle with it all their life. But there is absolutely no excuse for what Pete did in this video where he's stepped over an injured person like that and not checked if he needed help or called an ambulance. Or even let the mother know exactly what happened to her son.
Maybe because he doesn't know what happened? If you have ever been on a night out in London, the streets are sprawled with people on the floor drunk; the whole city is an absolute cesspit. If people stopped for everyone they find on the floor in the city after a night out then you'd end up out for about 7 weeks.
@@TC8787-yq7ogThat's not quite the same. Pete has even admitted to having a disagreement with Mark just before he came over the balcony. Pete said he took off because he had drugs on him.
@tobietera I think his minder has 100% had an altercation with Blanco, which has nothing to do with Pete, a tragic and cautionary tale about why not to do drugs basically
Pete mention who the guy that fell was on the balcony with he said his name on a interview when asked about it. Such a sad state of affairs hope his mother gets the answers she needs.
This is not an isolated case. They also did this to a beloved songwriter from my hometown named Paul Cunniffe. He was invited back for a heroin houseparty. Police say he 'fell' or 'jumped' from the balcony, shocking coincidence don't you think?. Police obviously did nothing about it. Glad to see there is still people talking about it..
Depressing the amount of ignorant, uncaring, devoid-of-empathy kunts are in these comments either joking about this mother's grief or sticking up for the scum who ran away from a dead/dying man.
I used to think that drugs like crack and heroin messed up the brain, probably damaged the connection between the amygdala and the rest of the brain causing a lack of empathy. Now I'm older, I realise that those types of people are attracted to those types of drugs.
Hazarding a best guess at what happened, based on everything known. Mark turned up at this party, promoting his new play, knowing Pete was there and trying to get some sort of endorsement from him. He was very drunk by all accounts, making a nuisance of himself. The flat owner and Pete’s minder ejected him. They were all pissed up and and in an ensuing struggle in the stairwell Mark has somehow gone over the balcony. I can’t imagine it was a deliberate murder - most likely the result of drunk grappling, pushing and shoving.the exact circumstances of how he went over - a shove, a stumble, a stagger, will never be known. Presumably someone called an ambulance, and Pete, not wanting the attention of the police due to his drug situation, or the media, legged it. There’s no law against that, an ambulance had been called, he’s intoxicated and not medically trained, other people are with Mark. I get why Marks mum would want to use Pete’s name to get her search for justice some traction in the media, but just because he’s famous and was at the party doesn’t mean he saw or knows or was involved in what happened to Mark, and he shouldn’t be tarnished with guilt by association. The whole thing was a tragic mess.
@@mf289 there is no duty to help anyone in the UK if you are a bystander to an accident. You are thinking of var crashes, where it IS illegal to leave the scene of an accident. Two different things.
@@mf289 you cannot possibly know that. If he’s in the flat, and the woman calls up to say Marks had an accident and needs an ambulance, and they all go down to the street, Doherty sees Mark is somehow hurt, and legs it as an ambulance and police are on the way and he’s in possession. You can say it’s morally reprehensible, but it’s not illegal. It is on video for the world to see and he was never arrested for ruining away because there is no evidence that he was involved in Mark going over the railing, therefore he was a bystander.
@@DXJ_YT the guys who likely threw mark over were Doherty’s security, if the police wanted to they could get Doherty on joint enterprise. Headlock even confessed to murder initially.
Just because Pete was there does not mean he did it, I understand the want to know, but don't blame without evidence, I'm sorry you lost your son Drink drugs abusive behavior seems to be a big issue
though he was with people who had pushed him down the stairs ? I think that is the question and it is a small group but by looking at a well known fact it puts pressure to bring the truth to light.
@@aliencactus720 very hard when drugs drink and abusive behavior played a massive part and very sad for his family, and sad that because Pete was most famous one there the spot light falls on him
@@mystavalon200 . . .and if someone there knows about some fight etc then they should talk about it ? Their status should not negate that. Even if, it was a freak accident.
It's worth watching Louis Theroux talk to him about this recently. Fair time ago but Doherty comes across a bit shady about it all to be fair. Seems to know more than letting on and the coppers sound like they didn't do their job in the first place. Celebrity connections and a corrupt police force. Not saying he did the deed but it's not the first time he's been in the clink. Had some good tunes.
As someone fully qualified in the field of Kinesics, Doherty (during that Blanco segment especially) is pathologically lying on all fronts, and once again, changing his story of what 'he' witnessed that night.
When did Pete and that girl step over his body? They’re in the middle of the road. Mark is behind a car. They may or may not have seen him. The British press is ridiculous.
Pete seemed to guilty when this was brought. He even went to say "when he was pushed" and louis changed his train of thought. He definitrly knows what happened at the very least. This needs to be reopened.
She says based on the footage he’s been dumped over but the footage doesn’t show that. A bunch of drug user s would always run if some jumped or was pushed off a balcony. Sadly her son was at a “drug den “ she’ll probably never know all that went down. It’s not fair to go after Pete or Kate at this point.
Very sad for his mother but from what is shown here it is no wonder the police cannot determine and prosecute the killer if that was the case - remember Michael Barrymore, comedian and television presenter, at whose drug filled party a young guy died from internal injuries [to put it politely] and till today the police have been unable to identify/prove who the actual killer amongst the few guests present.
I take it you haven't seen the whole programme with the part about Doherty's bodyguard boasting to friends and acquaintances about his responsibility for Blanco's death, and later surrendering himself to the police and confessing to pushing Blanco from the balcony (and then swiftly retracting that confession), then...
@@Britpopsoul According to witnesses, Blanco was 'bothering' Doherty and allegedly Doherty indicated to his bodyguard and others that Blanco should be removed from his presence, setting in motion the chain of events which led to Blanco's death. If true, that's what it 'has to do' with Doherty, whatever his actual intent or how others chose to interpret his request. Whatever the case, CCTV clearly shows Doherty (yes, and others) fleeing the scene later once he appears to realise what has occurred. Panicked or not, he (and they) should, at the very least, have remained until the police arrived to take their statements. Note *very* carefully that I'm suggesting that the available evidence (including the bodyguard's confession) so far indicates that Doherty is 'involved' rather than actually 'implicated' in Blanco's death. Until the case is properly, or even just adequately, investigated there's no way of knowing which one actually applies. If you still don't understand how any of that involves Doherty in Blanco's death - however indirectly or possibly even without actual intent to harm - then I'm afraid I can't help you any further. Fans can keep trying to paint this how they like, but Doherty was no uninvolved bystander here.
@@oldmanofoy4286 This video isn't all the evidence though. have you seen the news night program about this? It shows the full CCTV footage of Blanco outside the building and then goes back inside and is over the rail all in less than a minute. Then everyone else at the party doesn't come out for like 12 minutes after that. Not exactly a fast get away. The news night also program goes through the sequence of events of the girl that found Mark outside, they called emergency services and she told Pete to leave and so forth. Holding court in social media does not result in an accusation. The police watched the full CCTV and it's all the evidence needed cause it's just not possible for foul play to occur in less than a minute. Here's the news night program ruclips.net/video/UmLKixXxIXA/видео.html
think it is but seems to be very ahrd to prove. had friends of mine watch addicts die and then steal there drugs, leave the door open. hapens all the time
@@TC8787-yq7og yep she is indeed, who decided to date a heroin junkie which would have had a serious impression on her. Ive seen clean people get dirty on shitty scumbag drugs like heroin because of peer pressure more than actual decision making. Ive worked hospitals for 4 years and helped homeless for 7, so unless youve been on the streets and know these addicts first hand and their stories i wouldnt say youve a leg to stand on trying to discuss drug problems with me.
What was her son at a drug den? And Pete doherty was and crack and herion addict at the time. He's was being constantly arrested by the police, so he didn't want to be at the flat when the police showed up knowing he'd be targeted and end up with another drug charge that could lead he to spending more time in prison. and second its a herion addicts worst nightmare to be withdawing in a police station cell, I'm not saying its right that he ran past marks body, but drug addiction changes or judgment for the worst.
Its an absolutrly key point that channel 4 have left out to get the mothers cooperation I feel. If we cant know why he was there (likely buying crack or heroin), why are we being invited to make a judgement?
Being at a crack den doesn’t mean you deserve to die. And I’m sorry I don’t care if Doherty was worried about a possible drug charge. Guys dying and he ran like a coward.
Some brave journalist (if there are any left) should confront Doherty on why he has never spoken to the victims mother? If he is innocent, what does it matter? He has avoided her, and this is very telling of guilt.
If you're so interested in what Pete does you would know that he has spoken about this and you can find it online with the Louis Theroux interview and countless others. Or you can continue to just post random opinions and accusations demanding people do things and just make yourself look ignorant.
@@belleh.2955a bit Harsh Man, seriously though Dohertys recollections of the night in Question at the time would of been much more Valuable too the Police(invisible Air Quote) investigation as too todays Survived Hall of Famer!
@@belleh.2955 Umm, you are really weird. This is social media, and I think you may be involved in a cover up the way you are narcissistically reacting. Bye Troll...
@@MsBlueRyan Well ur welcome I guess, it's a strange high emotive case but these things happen. I wouldn't mind Trolls if they were like Pranksters and give up the Ghost but their natures seemed to b much more disturbed and sinister unfortunately for them!☮️✌️🕊️
Disgusting, she found her sons glasses lense, why forensics not taping off, checking every inch, blood on stairs 🙈. Quite possibly was heard coming back up stairs & punched hard flying over balcony, why would he go back to jump & it didn’t look like a jump???? Poor lady, poor son🙏🙏🙏 well if it was accidental or murder tell the truth, karma is a bitch!!!
Having had experience with this sort of thing, they dont investigate the dealer who sold stuff to OD deaths. Theres just no evidence usually, certainly not enough for the CPS to prosecute, then what crime would you charge them with? Addicts and dealers know this.
No he did not overdose. This documentary leaves out the full CCTV. Mark walks out the front door of the building and walks back in and is over the communal stairwell rail in 57 seconds from walking into the communal front door. but see how easy it was for you to make a false accusation without knowing the full evidence? That's what this documentary was designed to do an all of you in the comments ate it up. The reason there are no murder charges is cause the full CCTV footage actually shows there's no murder. That's all the evidence that's needed. The end. Case closed.
Recent Lois Theroux interview with Doherty where he claims he was sorry for walking by the body but he didn’t want to talk with cops because he has drugs on him, yea right, he scurried away because he saw what happened.
So a man on drugs jumping from a balcony is impossible? I think it’s wrong of her to smear someone’s name. It’s speculation the guy was thrown off. And even if that was the case it was a group of people off their faces. It sounds like she’s projecting guilt about not helping her son get off drugs before this happened.
There is a class that is considered fully human, and the the rest are not. Many have been fooled into believing it's a white-black, male-female, straight-gay, etc. kinda thing. It's not. It's just money and connections. In these kinds of cases the first thing police assess is "does this person matter?". Most people don't. If it's a VIP or VIP-adjacent person the investigation is full and thorough.
I'm here, and I've been hushed up trying to tell the truth about the aggravated perjury committed that night, the system is crooked full of pay offs and hushed hand in glove with the media crooked as they come. I will not stand down, until Mark has justice. . my life was threatened to keep hush but I no longer care they'll do it again anyway worse than Diddy the lot were . Mark was the only good man there.
I normally enjoy Channel 4 documentaries but this is a bit on the nose. Someone in the production team definately thinks they know what happened, withouy any proof.
Pete Doherty was booed off stage and had needles thrown at him in 2008 at Live at Loch Lomond, he was coming off the back of the stage, i was chatting wth my pal who was tech for the event. I passed a doobie to him, but Pete just strolled by, took it, smoked it, proceeded to be completely stoned, later, he went out on the loch and fell out of the boat and nearly drowned cause he was so fucked. did i ruin his sober streak?
@@stelovesoasis I lay down in the road with him holding his hand talking to him, someone else called them. He was squeezing my hand. He died saving my life, they laid sacrilege on his honour. It will all be told to the press soon enough. They took my phone at the start of the nt so I couldn’t escape or call for help.
@@stelovesoasis when someone who’s to blame for all this has money and power over the press what do you think can be done ? The police have proven their incompetence covered up and twisted facts in this case clearly committed perjury themselves. Show me a honest journalist who isn’t hand in glove with them . I don’t think it’s possible to find they’re all connected the media abuses it’s power. They can’t afford to have this persons name dragged through it (similar to Diddy case) if you get my meaning that’s what’s being covered up .. that’s why he was killed he was against all of them committing a crime.
@@stelovesoasis you’re repeating questions and repeating replies isn’t necessary you got to listen the first time around. The press and police are hand in glove .. there is probably no way of doing anything other than allowing the truth to be told, and if that’s all that can be done “so be it!”
The way the body fall down look like he was already fainted..probably doherty went out just because the newspaper would made it really big if he was there.but that doesnt prove his guilt
Channel 4 again astonishing me with such a murky, ridiculous “incestigative hit piece”. Same as y’all tried to do with Russ… ps. Whatever happened to that one, eh? NO ONE went to the police even when the police came to you guys since it’s release??!
They are protecting one of their own👿👿 hence the smirking coppers and the keep a suvineer quote😢😢😢 incredibly unjust and ridiculous l. His mum is a warrior
He fell with the gear on him most likely. Someone deep in addiction would step over someone for the parcel. Doesn’t mean he jumped though… unless he’d been up for over 5 days. I’ve been in some very dark places after 3-4 days up and still have it on tap to not stop. Urgh… I do not miss them days. Scary times.
If i seen a body on a road i wouldn't pick something up on that persons body probably his phone....i would stop and phone 999 breathing or not.....🙄🙄i think.... cause of evidence reasons its just dodgy behaviour and of course there was more people on that balcony that the guy wanted whatever he picked up disposed of....🙄
it's clear in the CCTV footage. Pete is on the other side of the road. He bends over, something falls out of his pocket, he picks it up. Why would he take Mark's phone? If that were true it would ping cell phone towers wherever Pete went next. The girl that found Mark first did call 999. Dodgy behavior is what happens at crack dens when you're high and have drugs on you. No one in that condition would stay and talk to police.
He’s not looking at the cctv properly ! Come on this is fixed .. police can’t be that thick ! Look at the clothing ignore the inverted colours of cctv.. think 💭
@@stelovesoasis you wanna listen a fabricated version of evens fill ya boots but I’m here to speak for Mark on his behalf and let the world know who did this to him.
Mark Don ain’t a copper. He’s a friend of Pete and Carl, I met him with Carl and they spiked me. They had me banging my head on a wall after drug assaulting me. Got a little secret for ya 32nd December no thank you. They’ve been singing about roofying people for years. Just downed the whey oh oh. Listen out for all the times pete sings about Don. He’s not saying don’t or down. I was a huge fan and they ruined my life
This poor guy was pushed or fell to his death, and then people, who were with him moments before are seen stepping over his body and running away. Not even stopping for a second to see if he was alive or dead. And the police don't want to investigate? Typical. The Metropolitan police are a complete disgrace. Poisonous from top to bottom. Something has got to be done, they are clearly not fit for purpose.
Who do you think pushed him ?
And by the way. I agree with every single word you say.
He was literally drunk and assaulting people, what do you mean?
@@caveman5187 . So he deserved to be pushed out of a window? They were all high and drunk. They left him to rot on the ground. You must be a real piece of work.
@@jeanettehinds4253 I didn't say that. I'm just saying I don't feel sorry for him either. The road he took led him to that situation, he was a 6'4 man trying to intimidate and bully people he barley knew. Stop trying to make him out to be the perfect son and an innocent victim. He most likely did it to himself because he realised how embarrassing he'd acted.
"Oh keep it as a keep sake" like shes picking up shells on skegness beach, how insensitive was that copper
Lime a lot of them unfortunately
Because she scraping the bottom. Understand its hwr son but she just picked doherty because he was famous its bs .
*WOW. Just…wow.* I’m just blown away at the level of incompetence in this investigation. I pray Mark’s family and friends find the answers that bring them *some* comfort…
*and if this flat has been a “drug den” for 25+ YEARS I’d say the local police must get a nice kickback*
Paul Roundhill is a known police informant.
"Drug Den" sounds so dramatic. A home where an addict lived maybe. Or even a house where parties took place and drugs were taken. That being the case there's alot more "Drug dens" out there than initially thought. I don't think Pete Doherty guilty of anything but being a heroin addict who was worried of getting arrested AGAIN and having to go through withdrawals. That and also a lack of humanity as drugs make you very selfish. Neither are a crime
then you have Pete posh boy with Military service family
Pete's management bribed the police-only explanation
You're very naive if you think there's any kickbacks going on from a smack heads pad, the police just don't care
Speaking from experience, I would be more shocked by police competence!
Here’s hoping this poor man’s family experience justice some day soon. 🌞
I think it's wrong that Pete has his name dragged in as the front runner to know what happened. Just because he's famous and led a chaotic lifestyle doesn't mean he's guilty and has all the answers
Exactly.
Actually the reason why the man went to the flat was to speak to Pete about a theatre production. He was only there for a minute before he was over the balcony and dying.
A news article shared that Petes minder Johnny 'Headlock' Jeannevol admitted to pushing him over the balcony then later retracted his statement.
So it sounds like pete was the reason the man visited the flat and is the reason why the man ended up dead.
Also witnesses heard noises neighbours told the news they heard shouting and swearing before the man was over the balcony.
@@CeasefireNow2024you should watch Louis Theroux interview with Pete. Then you can get your facts right
wtf You need your head read.
@@devinmillermedia *junkie take it you like using that word Devin, probably makes you feel better about yourself and your own shortcomings lmaooo
Is anyone thinking it an ‘odd’ coincidence that Mark was due to star in a play just days later (The Accidental Death of an Anarchist) which featured a man who falls suspiciously to his death from a police window. It is stated by witnesses that Mark was very excited about this play, turned up at the flat with the promotional poster in his hand and was waving it under Pete Doherty’s nose. The poster depicts a man falling head first from a balcony railing. I think he was getting in Pete’s face about this play, maybe pushing him to attend the opening and when Pete’s ‘security’ henchmen are beckoned to remove him from the premises (as witnesses and they themselves attest to) they rough him up and do something along the lines of ‘you wanna star in a play where someone falls to their death…here you go mate’ and throw him from the balcony. The poster and play content he was pushing Pete about ‘inspired’ them to teach him a lesson in such a manner. If i was feeling really crazy i might even suggest Mark was loosely inspired by events that had occurred at the flat years earlier when Curriffe (Sp?) fell to his death from the roof after also associating with the group who frequented the flat.
Well thought out and probably close to the truth. I know that block of flats very well, someone I used to know had a flat there and used it as an endpoint for liquid ketamine smuggled in rosewater bottles using fake Bangladesh names
@@willmac5642 liquid ketamine smuggled in rosewater bottles? Haha you must just believe every tall tale you hear on the streets. Very gullible if you believe that
Anyone familiar with LHP/Dark Occulted or Masonic ritual, will be able to connect the dots on this case. It has all the hallmarks of a ritualistic sacrifice, using the modalities of Predictive Programming and Revelation of the Method, to prep the victim and public of what was coming. The very fact Doherty went back to the exact location to record a music video for 'The lost art of murder' only a short while after Blanco's death, tells you everything you need to know. MM = Masonic Mockery (33).
@@leannecampbell4551😂 take the tinfoil hat off
I think you were on the right lines until you got to the bit about Pete’s ‘henchmen’ throwing him over the balcony to enact the storyline of his play. That sounds farcical. I think what’s more like is there was a drunken grapple between the ‘henchmen’ and Blanco as they ejected him. Blanco himself was reported to be very drunk that night. He was very tall as well, so less protected by a railing than a shorter person. Whether he was pushed or it was an accident or he staggered over it, I can’t imagine we’ll ever find out, sadly for his mum, but I can’t imagine he was thrown over the balcony in some deliberate execution. They were all pissed up, probably grappling, pushing & shoving, and an accident happened. Might potentially be a manslaughter if it could ever be pinpointed exactly what happened, but as I say - very unlikely now.
Isn't it illegal to leave someone in a vulnerable state?
This is awful, his mom is a true fighter and I wish her all the best.
No it's not, and I think we both know that was an accusation rather than a question. Maybe Blanco should have thought about assaulting people whilst intoxicated.
I don't understand? Why should he have thought about doing that?
In my country you're breaking the law if you ignore someone in need of assistance, and I would've thought UK laws were on the same level. It was never an accusation, just an observation and a question combined.
@@joak.vintage Well fair enough, I didn't realise you weren't from the UK. But to answer your question, no it's not a crime unless there's a designated responsibility.
She maybe should reflect inwards on why she didn’t get her son help for his addictions before.
Why don't you reflect inwards on why you felt the need to write that comment?
Have you any experience in "getting help" to someone who is an addict? If not, maybe you can create a youtube short with your tips and tricks, I'm sure it's helpful.
The focus on this journalistic piece isn't on unsuccessful interventions or the pain and suffering from a mom trying to help her son, it's about someone falling to their death - either by accident or from an external force.
Are you a big Pete Doherty fan or just oblivious to the world we live in? It doesn't matter if you're rich, resourceful or the kindest soul in the world - it's really hard helping someone recover from addiction because they are the ones that need to do the hardest work.
@@danh5637
‘You can have it as a keepsake’. The most unprofessional thing I’ve ever heard from a representative of supposedly a ‘professional public service’.
Unfortunately doesnt supirise me ive had similar interactions
@@becky2235 shocking! The most insensitive thing I’ve ever heard too. It used to be the police recruits were ex-Army/Marines where they already have a great deal of professionalism,discipline,authority and generally have a lot of life skills to deal with difficult situations and most importantly…. Common sense! Now they seem like young middle-class wet behind the ears types, taking a break from uni for a few years as it looks good on their cv. God help us all. Another poorly managed failing institution.
This is disgusting. No words beyond that.
Didn't know Pete did know about so many deaths
The older i get the more I'm forced to contend with the fact that in some cases the truth may never exist. It's one of the hardest things to accept, especially in the case of a tragedy like this one.
The truth always 'exists'. It does not depend on being public knowledge to exist.
@@djefferson5669 except that people lie to get away with it and the law is lazy
wellcome to the real world,the police is racist,lazy,incompetent and no,we are not all equal in the eyes of the law/police. very sad for your loss, rip. hope you find justice.
Where was racism present in this case?
hahaha muh waycism
@@calontour he was speaking generally about the police. are you a police? you have the cognitive skills of an officer.
@@the_local_bigamist I’m not “a police”, no 😂🤣
@@wavell14 I've heard a shit tonne of racist/sexist/homophobic remarks from both on and off duty met officers
The Police needs to save its sympathies and do it’s job. Mark, was murdered. With a multitude of witnesses present. It’s devastating that the officer told Marks mother Sheila that she could hold onto Marks glass/lens as a “keepsake” and it wasn’t taken in as evidence, it’s obvious that the officers who first investigated Marks death where corrupt. Sheila is a very strong woman. Hoping this family receives justice.
I’m not sure it is “obvious” that they were corrupt - incompetence seems more likely. To claim they’re corrupt means someone has paid them off. Who? Pete? He was a heroin addict so I think the chances of him having a bunch of money lying around is unlikely. Okay, probably his management team/record label then? Nope, they were under Rough Trade Records at the time, a very small independent label. It’s unlikely they would have enough money to influence the police. Is the whole thing suspicious? Absolutely is it. But I don’t see any evidence to indicate the police were corrupted. This sort of shoddy investigating is not uncommon with the Met. You only hear about this one because Shiela is so outspoken about it. I haven’t seen this documentary yet, but I’m going to assume they missed out that at the time Mark was dating a 17 year old drug addict (who turned 18 that day) and who has defended Pete, was incredibly drunk and picking fights with people all night. Does that excuse his death? Of course not, but it does paint a different picture to the one I suspect this documentary showed. Unfortunately for Shiela, she will never know what happened. Pete Doherty is a very troubled individual as were a lot of those he hung around with - Including Mark. I have no doubt that someone murdered him, but the public trying to play Cluedo with it doesn’t help anyone. Only those who were there know what happened, and I can promise you that information will die with them
detective inspector Colombo here ^^
@@PhilMcAuley it’s Lieutenant Columbo.
You seem to know a lot about the case for someone who.... knows absolutely nothing about the actual circumstances of the event.
@@mrg4388 know Pete has heavy connections to the British army with his family
STICKY ONE PETE, YOU MIGHT WANNA START MAKING SOME DRILL MUSIC. THAT CCTV FOOTAGE LOOKS LIKE MURDER.
😂😂😂
LMAO
I’m so sorry for the loved ones of this young man 🙏 may light perpetual shine upon his soul . I cannot imagine the grief of his family 🙏
That's just a load of nonsense words that don't mean anything to anyone except you.
@@Paulstrickland01 and you feel the need to point that out ? Oh well I’m entitled to say that I’m thinking of his family! Really no need to be so unkind , but hey you might be feeling sad at the moment , and needing to lash out. If so , I hope you feel better soon 🙏
@@lovedaybebe5881 Yeah I did because people like you think you're saying the most profoundly deep and meaningful stuff but you're not, you just vomit words you think have meaning now don't bring up entitlement because you're not entitled to say what you want anymore than I am and in fact your rights to speech ends at the tip of your nose now I know you're a female but I'm not and I don't view and behave according to emotions with every little thing so you're only talking down to yourself here because it's just a simple case of mocking a fool that doesn't require feeling sad or needing to lash out. 😂😂👏 Good talk.
Amen
And the souls of all the departed. Amen
Docherty was probly picking up some of his drugs before fleeing
If the police say that flat had been a drugs den for 25 years then why the fuck didn't they do something about it?
Tenant of said flat was a police informer. He also had contacts in the media and celebrity world. He was useful to the police, they turned a blind eye. Goes on all the time.
This Mum needs justice for her poor dear Son, this doesn't add up, corruption.
I think it's a big contradiction that Sheila Blanco judges Peter on the one hand but at the same time is using his famous name in her own interest. This film is painting a one-sided picture and condemns Peter of just being a messed up drug addict while Mark is described as a generous genius. If her son would have been popular she wouldn't have needed to pull Peters name threw the dirt which had been done enough. She has every right to be upset and that Peter failed his obligation to stand the ground puts a bad very light on him for sure. But to point the index finger on him now and to say after sixteen years of failed investigation "he wasn't some Saint." Is that objective? Is that right? Her anger and frustration is understandable only in this case she is blaming the wrong person.
Yeah the title of this documentary and the intense focus on a guy who happened to be at the party (no evidence he was involved in the crime) is ridiculous. A clear cheap attempt at publicity. And the whole narrative of “this actual genius is just a drug addict, while my undiscovered actor son is the real genius.” It’s completely deranged. It doesn’t help her case at all.
Who cares how popular any of them were? A man died, popular or not that is wrong. Doherty ran away, more scared of being arrested for possession. Ran away like a coward after picking up his bag first.
There are people who give off bad energy and bad things around them happen, thing is they seem to get off Scott free , not saying they are directly involved but avoid these people.
A modern retelling of a Charles Dickens classic.
It should be illegal to flee a scene of someone in severe distress, injured or danger of dying. These junkie scumbags were only thinking of themselves.
"In France, the law requires anyone to assist a person in danger or at the very least call for help." The Good Samaratan Law exists in many countries.
"In Germany, failure to provide first aid to a person in need is punishable under 323c of its criminal penal code."
True
These "Junkie Scumbags"? Er this guy was at the flat as well? Everyone seems to blame everyone but himself for his stupid behaviour that night.
@@P-zq9vn
What are you on about ?
Excuse me I'm on the side of recovering addicts having a loved one struggle with it all their life.
But there is absolutely no excuse for what Pete did in this video where he's stepped over an injured person like that and not checked if he needed help or called an ambulance.
Or even let the mother know exactly what happened to her son.
Maybe because he doesn't know what happened? If you have ever been on a night out in London, the streets are sprawled with people on the floor drunk; the whole city is an absolute cesspit. If people stopped for everyone they find on the floor in the city after a night out then you'd end up out for about 7 weeks.
@@TC8787-yq7ogThat's not quite the same. Pete has even admitted to having a disagreement with Mark just before he came over the balcony. Pete said he took off because he had drugs on him.
@tobietera I think his minder has 100% had an altercation with Blanco, which has nothing to do with Pete, a tragic and cautionary tale about why not to do drugs basically
Pete mention who the guy that fell was on the balcony with he said his name on a interview when asked about it. Such a sad state of affairs hope his mother gets the answers she needs.
This is not an isolated case. They also did this to a beloved songwriter from my hometown named Paul Cunniffe. He was invited back for a heroin houseparty. Police say he 'fell' or 'jumped' from the balcony, shocking coincidence don't you think?. Police obviously did nothing about it. Glad to see there is still people talking about it..
Yh same guy Roundill, plus wasn’t the play Blanco was in about someone falling from a balcony? Weird.
Depressing the amount of ignorant, uncaring, devoid-of-empathy kunts are in these comments either joking about this mother's grief or sticking up for the scum who ran away from a dead/dying man.
A lot of Shills propping-up the evidently guilty ones, in a desperate attempt to reduce the guilt!
I used to think that drugs like crack and heroin messed up the brain, probably damaged the connection between the amygdala and the rest of the brain causing a lack of empathy. Now I'm older, I realise that those types of people are attracted to those types of drugs.
What a load of BS
Simplistic nonsense
Utter crap
Triggered ex-communicated Junkie! 🤣🤣🤣@@barrybutter6906
Facts! Parasitic substances for Parasitic empty vessels!
Hazarding a best guess at what happened, based on everything known.
Mark turned up at this party, promoting his new play, knowing Pete was there and trying to get some sort of endorsement from him. He was very drunk by all accounts, making a nuisance of himself.
The flat owner and Pete’s minder ejected him. They were all pissed up and and in an ensuing struggle in the stairwell Mark has somehow gone over the balcony. I can’t imagine it was a deliberate murder - most likely the result of drunk grappling, pushing and shoving.the exact circumstances of how he went over - a shove, a stumble, a stagger, will never be known.
Presumably someone called an ambulance, and Pete, not wanting the attention of the police due to his drug situation, or the media, legged it. There’s no law against that, an ambulance had been called, he’s intoxicated and not medically trained, other people are with Mark. I get why Marks mum would want to use Pete’s name to get her search for justice some traction in the media, but just because he’s famous and was at the party doesn’t mean he saw or knows or was involved in what happened to Mark, and he shouldn’t be tarnished with guilt by association. The whole thing was a tragic mess.
Leaving the scene of an accident is a crime, also if Pete was involved in grappling that killed someone then that is man slaughter.
@@mf289 there is no duty to help anyone in the UK if you are a bystander to an accident. You are thinking of var crashes, where it IS illegal to leave the scene of an accident. Two different things.
@@DXJ_YT he wasn’t a bystander though, he was actively involved
@@mf289 you cannot possibly know that. If he’s in the flat, and the woman calls up to say Marks had an accident and needs an ambulance, and they all go down to the street, Doherty sees Mark is somehow hurt, and legs it as an ambulance and police are on the way and he’s in possession. You can say it’s morally reprehensible, but it’s not illegal. It is on video for the world to see and he was never arrested for ruining away because there is no evidence that he was involved in Mark going over the railing, therefore he was a bystander.
@@DXJ_YT the guys who likely threw mark over were Doherty’s security, if the police wanted to they could get Doherty on joint enterprise. Headlock even confessed to murder initially.
Just because Pete was there does not mean he did it, I understand the want to know, but don't blame without evidence, I'm sorry you lost your son
Drink drugs abusive behavior seems to be a big issue
though he was with people who had pushed him down the stairs ? I think that is the question and it is a small group but by looking at a well known fact it puts pressure to bring the truth to light.
@@aliencactus720 very hard when drugs drink and abusive behavior played a massive part and very sad for his family, and sad that because Pete was most famous one there the spot light falls on him
@@mystavalon200 . . .and if someone there knows about some fight etc then they should talk about it ? Their status should not negate that.
Even if, it was a freak accident.
@@aliencactus720 pushed him down the stairs? Where'd you get that information from? I've never head that one
@@belleh.2955 Oh, it is a very many years ago now. There was a investigator who looks into the murky celeb world. They all ran off.
It's worth watching Louis Theroux talk to him about this recently. Fair time ago but Doherty comes across a bit shady about it all to be fair. Seems to know more than letting on and the coppers sound like they didn't do their job in the first place. Celebrity connections and a corrupt police force. Not saying he did the deed but it's not the first time he's been in the clink. Had some good tunes.
As someone fully qualified in the field of Kinesics, Doherty (during that Blanco segment especially) is pathologically lying on all fronts, and once again, changing his story of what 'he' witnessed that night.
When did Pete and that girl step over his body? They’re in the middle of the road. Mark is behind a car. They may or may not have seen him. The British press is ridiculous.
Hes famous and attending a gathering of people, so lets just assume hes involved. Tell us why the son was there. Shoddy journalism
Pete seemed to guilty when this was brought. He even went to say "when he was pushed" and louis changed his train of thought.
He definitrly knows what happened at the very least. This needs to be reopened.
Has the interview been edited since? When the Blanco topic came up, Pete was all over the camp, his body language gave the game away...once again!
She says based on the footage he’s been dumped over but the footage doesn’t show that. A bunch of drug user s would always run if some jumped or was pushed off a balcony. Sadly her son was at a “drug den “ she’ll probably never know all that went down. It’s not fair to go after Pete or Kate at this point.
You heart must be broken, this is so unfair
Very sad for his mother but from what is shown here it is no wonder the police cannot determine and prosecute the killer if that was the case - remember Michael Barrymore, comedian and television presenter, at whose drug filled party a young guy died from internal injuries [to put it politely] and till today the police have been unable to identify/prove who the actual killer amongst the few guests present.
I take it you haven't seen the whole programme with the part about Doherty's bodyguard boasting to friends and acquaintances about his responsibility for Blanco's death, and later surrendering himself to the police and confessing to pushing Blanco from the balcony (and then swiftly retracting that confession), then...
@@oldmanofoy4286and what does that have to do with Doherty? They’ve titled this under his name.
@@Britpopsoul According to witnesses, Blanco was 'bothering' Doherty and allegedly Doherty indicated to his bodyguard and others that Blanco should be removed from his presence, setting in motion the chain of events which led to Blanco's death. If true, that's what it 'has to do' with Doherty, whatever his actual intent or how others chose to interpret his request.
Whatever the case, CCTV clearly shows Doherty (yes, and others) fleeing the scene later once he appears to realise what has occurred. Panicked or not, he (and they) should, at the very least, have remained until the police arrived to take their statements.
Note *very* carefully that I'm suggesting that the available evidence (including the bodyguard's confession) so far indicates that Doherty is 'involved' rather than actually 'implicated' in Blanco's death. Until the case is properly, or even just adequately, investigated there's no way of knowing which one actually applies.
If you still don't understand how any of that involves Doherty in Blanco's death - however indirectly or possibly even without actual intent to harm - then I'm afraid I can't help you any further.
Fans can keep trying to paint this how they like, but Doherty was no uninvolved bystander here.
@@oldmanofoy4286He’s gave his statement already😂🤦♂️
@@oldmanofoy4286 This video isn't all the evidence though. have you seen the news night program about this? It shows the full CCTV footage of Blanco outside the building and then goes back inside and is over the rail all in less than a minute. Then everyone else at the party doesn't come out for like 12 minutes after that. Not exactly a fast get away. The news night also program goes through the sequence of events of the girl that found Mark outside, they called emergency services and she told Pete to leave and so forth. Holding court in social media does not result in an accusation. The police watched the full CCTV and it's all the evidence needed cause it's just not possible for foul play to occur in less than a minute. Here's the news night program ruclips.net/video/UmLKixXxIXA/видео.html
Even if he wasnt pushed surely its criminal to leave someone who needs emergency assistance?
think it is but seems to be very ahrd to prove. had friends of mine watch addicts die and then steal there drugs, leave the door open. hapens all the time
@@ricwhite612 surely nobody can justify seeing a man fall from a balcony and run away from that.
That Doherty fella always gave off massive scumbag vibes to me. People seem to not do so well being alive around him just like ol Amy
Amy was a grown woman, she made her own choices
@@TC8787-yq7og yep she is indeed, who decided to date a heroin junkie which would have had a serious impression on her. Ive seen clean people get dirty on shitty scumbag drugs like heroin because of peer pressure more than actual decision making. Ive worked hospitals for 4 years and helped homeless for 7, so unless youve been on the streets and know these addicts first hand and their stories i wouldnt say youve a leg to stand on trying to discuss drug problems with me.
What was her son at a drug den? And Pete doherty was and crack and herion addict at the time. He's was being constantly arrested by the police, so he didn't want to be at the flat when the police showed up knowing he'd be targeted and end up with another drug charge that could lead he to spending more time in prison. and second its a herion addicts worst nightmare to be withdawing in a police station cell, I'm not saying its right that he ran past marks body, but drug addiction changes or judgment for the worst.
Its an absolutrly key point that channel 4 have left out to get the mothers cooperation I feel. If we cant know why he was there (likely buying crack or heroin), why are we being invited to make a judgement?
Being at a crack den doesn’t mean you deserve to die. And I’m sorry I don’t care if Doherty was worried about a possible drug charge. Guys dying and he ran like a coward.
Some brave journalist (if there are any left) should confront Doherty on why he has never spoken to the victims mother? If he is innocent, what does it matter? He has avoided her, and this is very telling of guilt.
If you're so interested in what Pete does you would know that he has spoken about this and you can find it online with the Louis Theroux interview and countless others. Or you can continue to just post random opinions and accusations demanding people do things and just make yourself look ignorant.
@@belleh.2955a bit Harsh Man, seriously though Dohertys recollections of the night in Question at the time would of been much more Valuable too the Police(invisible Air Quote) investigation as too todays Survived Hall of Famer!
@@belleh.2955 Umm, you are really weird. This is social media, and I think you may be involved in a cover up the way you are narcissistically reacting. Bye Troll...
@@trevormerren2329 Thank you. belleh is a troll. It follows me because it thinks it makes me mad. It doesn't.
@@MsBlueRyan Well ur welcome I guess, it's a strange high emotive case but these things happen. I wouldn't mind Trolls if they were like Pranksters and give up the Ghost but their natures seemed to b much more disturbed and sinister unfortunately for them!☮️✌️🕊️
Never trust a junkie, lying comes natural to them, there's no honour amount junkies, watch him run for god sake, couldn't give a toss about Mr Blanco.
Yes thats disgusting but not all people with addictions are like that
@@becky2235 Becky all junkies are like that, they are the most selfish people alive
I feel sick. I really , really feel sick. There were 3 on the balcony including this young man.
Was you there?
@@henben9215 was you ?
@@SharonMcwilliams78 you seem to know a lot about it? So you must’ve been?
@@henben9215 that’s your observation. Not possible really. Happy Saturday!!! Pay attention!!!
@@SharonMcwilliams78 so stop talking shite! Happy Saturday!
Disgusting, she found her sons glasses lense, why forensics not taping off, checking every inch, blood on stairs 🙈. Quite possibly was heard coming back up stairs & punched hard flying over balcony, why would he go back to jump & it didn’t look like a jump???? Poor lady, poor son🙏🙏🙏 well if it was accidental or murder tell the truth, karma is a bitch!!!
My god how upsetting 🙏🏾😞 the poor boy’s family 💔😢
Couldn’t he have overdosed and then the people just threw him over instead of admitting it was drug use? Maybe to not get the dealer in trouble?
Having had experience with this sort of thing, they dont investigate the dealer who sold stuff to OD deaths. Theres just no evidence usually, certainly not enough for the CPS to prosecute, then what crime would you charge them with? Addicts and dealers know this.
No he did not overdose. This documentary leaves out the full CCTV. Mark walks out the front door of the building and walks back in and is over the communal stairwell rail in 57 seconds from walking into the communal front door. but see how easy it was for you to make a false accusation without knowing the full evidence? That's what this documentary was designed to do an all of you in the comments ate it up. The reason there are no murder charges is cause the full CCTV footage actually shows there's no murder. That's all the evidence that's needed. The end. Case closed.
Recent Lois Theroux interview with Doherty where he claims he was sorry for walking by the body but he didn’t want to talk with cops because he has drugs on him, yea right, he scurried away because he saw what happened.
So a man on drugs jumping from a balcony is impossible? I think it’s wrong of her to smear someone’s name. It’s speculation the guy was thrown off. And even if that was the case it was a group of people off their faces. It sounds like she’s projecting guilt about not helping her son get off drugs before this happened.
Justice for mark
A lot of these rich kids turn to drugs because they’ve had their back’s blown. It’s a very/rich family thing, especially catholic.
How a bunch of skinny addicts gonna throw a big dude off a balcony
There is a class that is considered fully human, and the the rest are not. Many have been fooled into believing it's a white-black, male-female, straight-gay, etc. kinda thing. It's not. It's just money and connections. In these kinds of cases the first thing police assess is "does this person matter?". Most people don't. If it's a VIP or VIP-adjacent person the investigation is full and thorough.
Utter shit
If Doherty was political... then they'd have this case wrapped up in no time. Very sad case tho. I hope justice is done.
so sad ,why has this not be properly investigate. ?
He literally stepped over a dead body and took off running.
Why didn't he stop to help
The police probably get a cut with the drug den. Like they stay friendly with the grooming gangs in Huddersfield etc.
What about you witnesses?
I'm here, and I've been hushed up trying to tell the truth about the aggravated perjury committed that night, the system is crooked full of pay offs and hushed hand in glove with the media crooked as they come. I will not stand down, until Mark has justice. . my life was threatened to keep hush but I no longer care they'll do it again anyway worse than Diddy the lot were . Mark was the only good man there.
Pete was the most famous person there, so it’s mind blowingly clear he had something to do with it, if not directly involved! 😐
He was asking for Mark to be removed from the party, which led to the death
Nope he wasnt the famous man kept his name hushed up with a pay off
I normally enjoy Channel 4 documentaries but this is a bit on the nose. Someone in the production team definately thinks they know what happened, withouy any proof.
Pete Doherty was booed off stage and had needles thrown at him in 2008 at Live at Loch Lomond, he was coming off the back of the stage, i was chatting wth my pal who was tech for the event. I passed a doobie to him, but Pete just strolled by, took it, smoked it, proceeded to be completely stoned, later, he went out on the loch and fell out of the boat and nearly drowned cause he was so fucked.
did i ruin his sober streak?
So 2 people die in his presence and its all coincidence shame.on the uk.police system
Peter Doherty is innocent
I was there, I seen it all happen... the police covered it up and those who were there "lied to the police and press." It's time justice happened !
@@stelovesoasis I absolutely was there and I seen it all
@@stelovesoasis I’ve heard their accountability’s and not one of them told a inch of truth.
@@stelovesoasis I lay down in the road with him holding his hand talking to him, someone else called them. He was squeezing my hand. He died saving my life, they laid sacrilege on his honour. It will all be told to the press soon enough. They took my phone at the start of the nt so I couldn’t escape or call for help.
@@stelovesoasis when someone who’s to blame for all this has money and power over the press what do you think can be done ? The police have proven their incompetence covered up and twisted facts in this case clearly committed perjury themselves. Show me a honest journalist who isn’t hand in glove with them . I don’t think it’s possible to find they’re all connected the media abuses it’s power. They can’t afford to have this persons name dragged through it (similar to Diddy case) if you get my meaning that’s what’s being covered up .. that’s why he was killed he was against all of them committing a crime.
@@stelovesoasis you’re repeating questions and repeating replies isn’t necessary you got to listen the first time around. The press and police are hand in glove .. there is probably no way of doing anything other than allowing the truth to be told, and if that’s all that can be done “so be it!”
Why did the police not arrest them
The way the body fall down look like he was already fainted..probably doherty went out just because the newspaper would made it really big if he was there.but that doesnt prove his guilt
So.they were all drugged up, and her son threw himself over the balcony.
Sending you much love and strength- mothers always know ❤️🙏😇
The Met,says it all really!
I really couldn't give a shit about posh boys with everything that still fuck up .
Channel 4 again astonishing me with such a murky, ridiculous “incestigative hit piece”. Same as y’all tried to do with Russ… ps. Whatever happened to that one, eh? NO ONE went to the police even when the police came to you guys since it’s release??!
Could have been worse, could have been found in Barrymores pool
Loui through interview insulting promoting pete Doherty my heart feels for mark mother
Pete ran away as he didn’t want to get caught with drugs, he didn’t murder him
They seem incredibly close don't they .. they choose the journalists they trust remember that
I'm just waiting for MeToo to come to Pete Doherty. It's inevitable.huh?
Grubby channel 4 .
Pete lives in France now
not that night he didnt
4:59 *not literally 🙄
That dude looked like he was dead already on the way down in my opinion
When do the police ever do a good job??? Sausages. Peeps leaving with no concern for the lad says it all. Dodgy
They are protecting one of their own👿👿 hence the smirking coppers and the keep a suvineer quote😢😢😢 incredibly unjust and ridiculous l. His mum is a warrior
Very old news
Shambles, anyone trust him ever?
This is very biased journalism
Even the forensic scientist missed to see the truth he didnt look close enough at the cctv
He fell with the gear on him most likely. Someone deep in addiction would step over someone for the parcel. Doesn’t mean he jumped though… unless he’d been up for over 5 days. I’ve been in some very dark places after 3-4 days up and still have it on tap to not stop. Urgh… I do not miss them days. Scary times.
He did not jump
If i seen a body on a road i wouldn't pick something up on that persons body probably his phone....i would stop and phone 999 breathing or not.....🙄🙄i think.... cause of evidence reasons its just dodgy behaviour and of course there was more people on that balcony that the guy wanted whatever he picked up disposed of....🙄
And running off straight after that???!! 😠 its just wrong
it's clear in the CCTV footage. Pete is on the other side of the road. He bends over, something falls out of his pocket, he picks it up. Why would he take Mark's phone? If that were true it would ping cell phone towers wherever Pete went next. The girl that found Mark first did call 999. Dodgy behavior is what happens at crack dens when you're high and have drugs on you. No one in that condition would stay and talk to police.
Only watching this because of Amy Winehouse. Friends with baby shambles. This story is a mess!
Pete who??
Wow Thierry really trying to destroy Pete gee wiz now that he's turning his life around
He’s not looking at the cctv properly ! Come on this is fixed .. police can’t be that thick ! Look at the clothing ignore the inverted colours of cctv.. think 💭
Peter's a lovely man. I feel it's sad he's been linked to all this when he was inside the flat when it happened.
@@stelovesoasis he’s no innocent man that’s for sure. I used to think that way until he showed his true colours that nt ! I should know I was there !
@@teresahounslow4058 Naomi says she couldn't account for Headlock and Roundhill's whereabouts, she never mentioned Peter. I feel for him.
@@stelovesoasis if the case is closed legally there is nothing stopping the statements being shared 👩⚖️
@@stelovesoasis you wanna listen a fabricated version of evens fill ya boots but I’m here to speak for Mark on his behalf and let the world know who did this to him.
Mark Don ain’t a copper. He’s a friend of Pete and Carl, I met him with Carl and they spiked me. They had me banging my head on a wall after drug assaulting me. Got a little secret for ya 32nd December no thank you. They’ve been singing about roofying people for years. Just downed the whey oh oh. Listen out for all the times pete sings about Don. He’s not saying don’t or down. I was a huge fan and they ruined my life
What's Roofying?? Excuse my ignorance, not from London.
@@leannecampbell4551Roofies are date rape drugs.
Please explain further
No one seen the hangover?
@@leannecampbell4551 rufelin
Sleeping Natalie.
What do you want from them. The guys dead
I like Pete me, people need to help him not criticise him. Blame your government and police not stopping drugs flooding in.
If my son listened to Libertines/Baby Shambles, that's the point where I would sit him down and have a talk with him.
😂😂
It’s better than listening to grime or drill still 😂
pete is innocent
He more than likely is, but he isn't stupid or ignorant! He knew exactly what happened.
He certainly isn't innocent of fleeing the scene of a suspicious death.
He killed Amy Winehouse too
@@jay2073 Just like you're killing comedy, b'dum-tish
@@jay2073how did he kill her ?
Pete accidentally killed that boy
Pete the killa .... mafioso style
He killed Amy Winehouse too!
Amy killed Amy.
@@ReaperOfSaltyTears & so did Pete
@@jay2073 How are you figuring this out?
Satanic ritual
@@ReaperOfSaltyTears drugs
Johnny headlock said they pushed the door shut and he was threatening to jump if they didn’t let him back in.