100% agree on tokens. I would be fine to have these in a game. As you say, it’s colour on the board, saves a lot of space and a more cost effective option. If any game has a standee option I back at this. Playing through Oathsworn at the moment with standee’s. It’s still a cracking game and not diminished as a result. Nice video by the way, cheers.
Opposite for me after Descent and Imperial Assault have cardboard discs for main baddies - was real annoying. Cost me a lot on ally villian and lieutenant packs.
Yes, there was some art on their page with the heroes around a campfire and it looked like the character select screen from Diablo 2. I knew I wasn’t the only one! 😂
@HungryGamerReviews : Do you think Odalin could also be your contender for game of the year like Tanares ? If you have only budget/room for 1 of them, which one would you choose ?
Hard to say. Not enough info yet. I had done 4-5 dives and 3-4 city phases in Tanares by then. W Oralin, only one dive no camp phase and some messing about with random combats I set.
I am genuinely looking forward to the launch of this game on Gamefound. I personally think that the latest iteration of Tanares Ultimate is superb and their continual improvement of the game over the years demonstrates commitment to the player base and respect for the community. I will certainly aim to pickup this game.
@@HungryGamerReviews haha! You should consider doing a video about optimizing shelf space. I think that it is really important to keep everything organized and accessible.
So much of this sounds mechanically interesting and I LOVE the theme. That said, I'm not sure I'll be diving in. I'm not big on campaign games, unless they are more limited (3-45 scenarios per campaign for example). it's also competing with two other games that want my money and aren't tied to campaign; Grimcoven and Blood (which launches the same day). I will be following it for sure, to see how long the campaign is and if it works as a one-shot game, but i suspect it being campaign first will be the main thing that gets it knocked off my list.
@@HungryGamerReviews Blood is Ludus Magnus Studio's new project and their first boss battler and seems amazing. And like Grimcoven you can play it also as a one-shot game. Like derekgarcia3069 I also think that what will stop me from supporting Odalin could be the idea of another 100+ hours campaign game after Tanares
I definitely need to see more on Odalin's campaign. If you are able to switch out characters fairly easily during the campaign, or the full dungeon mode works well, it's going to have more of my attention. I really do love the theme and transformation into a demon is just good wholesome fun! 😂
Happy I watched all the videos I was behind on the same day. this game really sound interesting. Its kind of the first game I see that uses the card crafting mechanism from John D. Clair, that I love. On top of that, in a Dungeon Crawl!!! I have Tanares Adventure on my watch list, and now I've added Odalin as well, but i own so many adventure/Dungeon Crawl game, that I have to restrain myself. If I wasn't so excited by Tsukuyumi, I probably would be looking to back that one as well!! We really have to many similar interest. The quibbles you mentioned in most of your video are very small to me, compare to the excitement and experience the game promises! Thanks again, and another title on my watchlist!!!
I hesitate to compare the two because I've played so much more of Tanares, and experienced pretty much the whole of what that game has to offer. So it of course seems more full and well-rounded. However, I will say that the combat and this one feels a little bit more tactical because it does feel like you have more options if for no other reason because you have more abilities that you have access to.
The only thing I would have wanted for is to have demonic versions of characters (like having their mini in a corrupted form), but for gameplay purposes it's cool to have multiple demons to pick for a character. I'm just a sucker for alternate forms and such. (Though switching to a demon is very close to that.)
@@HungryGamerReviews Yeah... I missed out on Tanares and was feeling it, wanting to jump into a dungeon crawler. Then I saw this one on the horizon... I'm being reeled in for sure. Love the theme and everything. Like, I know this is a different game with its own systems and everything, but if it has a semblance of the cooler tendencies of Tanares and if the rest of the systems work out well, then I am really really excited for this.
You say that you expect more playable characters.. They did say in discord that they want to keep the number lower because each one should have a deeper background story. But i hope that it will be like 8 heroes and 8 demons. Wouldn't complain about more though.
Wow, even the mini preview boxes are on steroids these days. But seriously, thanks for the video and the overview. I found Arena - The Contest and later Tanares to be solid but in no way spectacular games. To me, they were incredibly repetitive and turned stale really quickly. I hope they will have extensive playthrough videos, to demonstrate in-depth the loop and nechanics, at the beginning of the campaign, otherwise I gladly would pass on it. I really like the tokens, less space required and faster setup / tear down and better visual control of the board. If they would come in wood or acrylic, that would be awesome.
pretty sure there is not a plan to offer tokens...but i would love it. I think this game is going to offer one offs if that helps wiuth your concern about repetition.
Hulk mode: "Dont make me angr...corrupted. You wont like me when Im corrupted." 😂 I dont NEED another dungeon crawler, but will be backing this one. Just got Tanares 2nd printing and the sheer amount of content for adventuring is outrageous. It'd take me many years to do just one complete run through. But, Im a sucker for dungeon crawlers and the customization of your heroes abilities intrigues me a lot.
This game might be good. But I don’t want to be a beta tester like I was with Arena/Tanares. I can wait a few years for a 1.5/Ultimate edition. Or maybe just go with the official Diablo board game.
Hi Luke. We will have a compromise on the campaign page of not launch a reprint or update for more than 2 years after the delivery. So don't worry about it.
@@HungryGamerReviews It might be a long wait as Glass Cannon Unplugged has projects in the queue, but Frostpunk was well-received so maybe their Diablo board game will be decent. They’ve also announced Don’t Starve which is also listed for 2025 on bgg. They might have too much on their plate. Hmm…..
Thanks for the preview but frankly this was a lackluster video. It's more a rambling than a preview. Given the high cost and effort that it costed for them to get this to you, I would have expected some more work to go on this video. Maybe you could've shown a complete turn of actual gameplay so that we can get a grasp. Saying that a possible con is that it's gonna take lots of shelf space and money is pretty much saying nothing for this type of product of which most people are already familiar. I really missed some more gaming insight.
Thanks for the comment, but this was really a lackluster critique. It was more a rambling than coherent comment. I have no time for useless comments like yours. Don't like the video fine. But this comment is just you flexing. Go away.
@@HungryGamerReviews This is not a mature response for a content creator who expects people to watch and like his videos. For example, King of Average has a complete unboxing etc. I personally do not have any issue with your mini-video, but addressing the comments is the way, not just calling useless a commentary that does not suit you or does not praise your content.
@@mel_from_hell then go watch KoA. Enjoy. If you look at his original comment you will see I just changed two words from what they said. So why is my comment rude and not theirs? I do not allow people to insult me. Period. If you are rude in your comment you get a rude reply. It feels terrible when people are assholes to you. Anyone who wants to talk about the quality of a game or ask questions I'm here for it. The second your comment moves into "this video sucks" I have no use for it.
@@PiterMorbidit wasn't constructive. It was rude. My reply took the EXACT same tone as yours. Disrespectful. There is literally NO VALUE in telling me you think I ramble. None. This is a mini review. That is what they are. Feel free not to watch. Feel free to ask WHY it's not a full review with a full rules overview. Don't be a jerk.
100% agree on tokens. I would be fine to have these in a game. As you say, it’s colour on the board, saves a lot of space and a more cost effective option. If any game has a standee option I back at this. Playing through Oathsworn at the moment with standee’s. It’s still a cracking game and not diminished as a result. Nice video by the way, cheers.
Best choice I made was backing Oathsworn with standees
Opposite for me after Descent and Imperial Assault have cardboard discs for main baddies - was real annoying. Cost me a lot on ally villian and lieutenant packs.
Yes, there was some art on their page with the heroes around a campfire and it looked like the character select screen from Diablo 2. I knew I wasn’t the only one! 😂
yup!!!
We really loved Arena and Tanares. Gameplay looks awesome. I just don't know if the theme is our favorite.
I tend to lean more towards lighter fare myself!
@HungryGamerReviews : Do you think Odalin could also be your contender for game of the year like Tanares ? If you have only budget/room for 1 of them, which one would you choose ?
Hard to say. Not enough info yet. I had done 4-5 dives and 3-4 city phases in Tanares by then. W Oralin, only one dive no camp phase and some messing about with random combats I set.
That’s a huge box for a mini preview.
Truth. Mostly air though
Thanks!
most welcome. thank you for watching and being supportive!
I am genuinely looking forward to the launch of this game on Gamefound. I personally think that the latest iteration of Tanares Ultimate is superb and their continual improvement of the game over the years demonstrates commitment to the player base and respect for the community. I will certainly aim to pickup this game.
your poor shelf space LOL
@@HungryGamerReviews haha! You should consider doing a video about optimizing shelf space. I think that it is really important to keep everything organized and accessible.
@@Deltium5683that would imply I'm good at that!
My main advice is throw away expansion boxes lol
So much of this sounds mechanically interesting and I LOVE the theme. That said, I'm not sure I'll be diving in. I'm not big on campaign games, unless they are more limited (3-45 scenarios per campaign for example). it's also competing with two other games that want my money and aren't tied to campaign; Grimcoven and Blood (which launches the same day). I will be following it for sure, to see how long the campaign is and if it works as a one-shot game, but i suspect it being campaign first will be the main thing that gets it knocked off my list.
i have not even heard of blood!
@@HungryGamerReviews Blood is Ludus Magnus Studio's new project and their first boss battler and seems amazing. And like Grimcoven you can play it also as a one-shot game. Like derekgarcia3069 I also think that what will stop me from supporting Odalin could be the idea of another 100+ hours campaign game after Tanares
I definitely need to see more on Odalin's campaign. If you are able to switch out characters fairly easily during the campaign, or the full dungeon mode works well, it's going to have more of my attention.
I really do love the theme and transformation into a demon is just good wholesome fun! 😂
@@derekgarcia3069 i think that was the best part of tarares, how easy swapping characters was. I will be curious about that too
Happy I watched all the videos I was behind on the same day. this game really sound interesting. Its kind of the first game I see that uses the card crafting mechanism from John D. Clair, that I love. On top of that, in a Dungeon Crawl!!!
I have Tanares Adventure on my watch list, and now I've added Odalin as well, but i own so many adventure/Dungeon Crawl game, that I have to restrain myself. If I wasn't so excited by Tsukuyumi, I probably would be looking to back that one as well!!
We really have to many similar interest. The quibbles you mentioned in most of your video are very small to me, compare to the excitement and experience the game promises! Thanks again, and another title on my watchlist!!!
I do the same with crawls. What's worse is they are SOOOO HARD to cull once I have them
@@HungryGamerReviews i agree.. again!! ;-)
On the campaign page I think there are already 5 base heroes and 4 from unlocks and day 1 bonus. So I expect good variety
Ah! I haven't looked at any of the unlocks
How would you compare the fun factor of the combat mechanics/tactics to Tanares?
I hesitate to compare the two because I've played so much more of Tanares, and experienced pretty much the whole of what that game has to offer. So it of course seems more full and well-rounded. However, I will say that the combat and this one feels a little bit more tactical because it does feel like you have more options if for no other reason because you have more abilities that you have access to.
Many Thanks for the preview.
You bet!
The only thing I would have wanted for is to have demonic versions of characters (like having their mini in a corrupted form), but for gameplay purposes it's cool to have multiple demons to pick for a character.
I'm just a sucker for alternate forms and such. (Though switching to a demon is very close to that.)
I have seen some sculpts. These things look amazing
@@HungryGamerReviews Yeah... I missed out on Tanares and was feeling it, wanting to jump into a dungeon crawler. Then I saw this one on the horizon... I'm being reeled in for sure. Love the theme and everything.
Like, I know this is a different game with its own systems and everything, but if it has a semblance of the cooler tendencies of Tanares and if the rest of the systems work out well, then I am really really excited for this.
@@lystic9392 excellent! Start clearing some shelf space
You say that you expect more playable characters..
They did say in discord that they want to keep the number lower because each one should have a deeper background story.
But i hope that it will be like 8 heroes and 8 demons. Wouldn't complain about more though.
6-8 would be great
One thing I can't stand between Arena and Tanares is how many boxes of stuff I have. It's ridiculous.
Yeah its a dangerous company for your shelf space!
@@HungryGamerReviews Chronicles of Drunagor is bad as well
Wow, even the mini preview boxes are on steroids these days. But seriously, thanks for the video and the overview.
I found Arena - The Contest and later Tanares to be solid but in no way spectacular games. To me, they were incredibly repetitive and turned stale really quickly. I hope they will have extensive playthrough videos, to demonstrate in-depth the loop and nechanics, at the beginning of the campaign, otherwise I gladly would pass on it.
I really like the tokens, less space required and faster setup / tear down and better visual control of the board. If they would come in wood or acrylic, that would be awesome.
pretty sure there is not a plan to offer tokens...but i would love it. I think this game is going to offer one offs if that helps wiuth your concern about repetition.
Hulk mode: "Dont make me angr...corrupted. You wont like me when Im corrupted." 😂
I dont NEED another dungeon crawler, but will be backing this one. Just got Tanares 2nd printing and the sheer amount of content for adventuring is outrageous. It'd take me many years to do just one complete run through. But, Im a sucker for dungeon crawlers and the customization of your heroes abilities intrigues me a lot.
Ang-rupted? Corr-angry?
Do any of us NEED another crawler? lol
This game might be good. But I don’t want to be a beta tester like I was with Arena/Tanares. I can wait a few years for a 1.5/Ultimate edition. Or maybe just go with the official Diablo board game.
Hi Luke. We will have a compromise on the campaign page of not launch a reprint or update for more than 2 years after the delivery. So don't worry about it.
A fair concern! Also there is a Diablo official game? I didn't know!
@@HungryGamerReviews It might be a long wait as Glass Cannon Unplugged has projects in the queue, but Frostpunk was well-received so maybe their Diablo board game will be decent. They’ve also announced Don’t Starve which is also listed for 2025 on bgg. They might have too much on their plate. Hmm…..
@@Luke_L ah! Now that you mention that it rings a bell
Thanks for the preview but frankly this was a lackluster video. It's more a rambling than a preview. Given the high cost and effort that it costed for them to get this to you, I would have expected some more work to go on this video. Maybe you could've shown a complete turn of actual gameplay so that we can get a grasp. Saying that a possible con is that it's gonna take lots of shelf space and money is pretty much saying nothing for this type of product of which most people are already familiar. I really missed some more gaming insight.
Thanks for the comment, but this was really a lackluster critique. It was more a rambling than coherent comment.
I have no time for useless comments like yours. Don't like the video fine. But this comment is just you flexing. Go away.
@@HungryGamerReviews This is not a mature response for a content creator who expects people to watch and like his videos. For example, King of Average has a complete unboxing etc. I personally do not have any issue with your mini-video, but addressing the comments is the way, not just calling useless a commentary that does not suit you or does not praise your content.
@@HungryGamerReviews not really, Will. Maybe the tone was off but this was supposed to be constructive critique.
@@mel_from_hell then go watch KoA. Enjoy.
If you look at his original comment you will see I just changed two words from what they said. So why is my comment rude and not theirs?
I do not allow people to insult me. Period. If you are rude in your comment you get a rude reply. It feels terrible when people are assholes to you.
Anyone who wants to talk about the quality of a game or ask questions I'm here for it.
The second your comment moves into "this video sucks" I have no use for it.
@@PiterMorbidit wasn't constructive. It was rude. My reply took the EXACT same tone as yours. Disrespectful.
There is literally NO VALUE in telling me you think I ramble. None. This is a mini review. That is what they are. Feel free not to watch. Feel free to ask WHY it's not a full review with a full rules overview. Don't be a jerk.