almost all pets are like that basically 80% of captive-bred pets/animals were genetically modified by humans to make them more desirable and interesting especially dogs and cats
Oh yeah, I just didn’t think it was that much. To the extent where they created new species of fish that didn’t even exist 🤔 but I guess that’s what humans do. With animals, food, and I’m surprised we don’t try it on ourselves cause it’s illegal.
Yes this is what I was thinking. There are too many animals that are being breed and have so many health issues. They either do them too small or too big. The German Shepard if you take a look at their spine from a picture back in the day and one in this timeline their back is more arched now.
It's one thing to maintain genes like slightly longer fins, but when it comes to affecting actual mobility and lifespan, time to back up as breeders and remember we are animal husbanders first.
@@yenfr5306 Ikr, German Shepherds are my favorite breed of dogs and stupid breeders are ruining them and their health for a characteristic that isn't even nice. It's so sad to watch
I think anything that hurts their quality of life shouldn't be intentionally bred/purchased. As with dog breeds and various other animals, at the point "cute" becomes more important than their health and lifespan, that's a huge problem. If it's JUST a visual change (i.e. most snake morphs) that doesn't cause any problems, by all means - go for it - why not - but if it harms them in any way, there's just no good reason to do it.
totally agree with you, but i'd add something: knowing they have issues (illnesses and so on) if they person that wants them has the $ and the care to give them a good quality of life even with all of their problems, its ok for me.. whats awful is people buying these animals not knowing whats ahead, and then abandoning them, or just letting them die bc they cant give them the care they need (like the swim bladder fix - or in some small dogs like pugs, like breathing/heart problems...)
@@Nyalrii ... or not having the correct parameters (speaking of fish) for space and cleanliness... A two ft fish should not be in a 10 gallon tank--- for that matter, neither should a beta be in a short vase sans heater or decent filtration ( natural or mechanical)... The OP said what I was thinking, but put it much better than I...
@@bgc3864 male betta fish with super long tails are bred to look like that and it affects their swimming when they're adults which is why i like female bettas better. i don't think it necessarily causes any health issues but i didn't want a fish that kinda just floated around bc it's fins were too long for it to swim well
@@jordanlindsaytaggart159 Not just super long tails can be a problem with betta The dragon scale betta (male but also female I think) can develop diamond eyes, the scales grow on the eyes and can (not always) make them blind (and so all the problems with that, like searching for food or hurt them self with the decor)
I believe breeding for anything other than health, intelligence and temperament is wrong. We should be working to lift up other species, not deforming them. That is pure selfishness.
what utter crock. the more intelligent and fit an animal, the less domesticated they become. humans have always bred animals to fit their own needs and for good reason.
@@Katherine-qs8ws Just because something always has been, does not mean it always will be. In the last century alone we have made leaps and bounds in regards to animal welfare and knowledge about genetics, as well as knowledge on birth defects and the results of excessive inbreeding. Hell, just a few hundred years ago the concept of HUMAN rights barely existed. The future is bright in this way.
PrimaDeluxe we know how to make animals stronger already. The answer is to release them into the wild and let the weak ones die of starvation, predation, and disease while the strong and smart survive and breed. Even your own assumptions about breeding are kind of hubris and assume that humans are godly and can somehow tell the animal what is best for it.
My friend’s oldest goldfish was 10 years old, he died of old age. Her second oldest goldfish is 8 years old, the other 7. She adores these fish and forms strong bonds with them. To my surprise, the gold fish actually remember her face and my friend has taken the time to train them to do tricks, it’s kinda cool watching what I thought was some stupid fish actually do somewhat intelligent things. As a result of adoring these fish, my friend is really passionate about this topic, wanting to educate people on the truth about goldfish and the mutations people find ‘cute’, that goldfish require a lot more care than just putting them in a bowl of water and are not the easiest pet to keep.
Not quite the same (but cousin-enough), but my family rescued a group of koi from neglectful, abusive owners. Those guys could actually tell me apart from my parents and were adorable. We kept them for two years before a koi enthusiast with a natural pond setup became their new home, but in those two years I definitely got the impression that they were at least as smart as the cats. They could even tell when I would stick my hand in just to play and when it was food time. I'm still sad that we never knew how to take care for a common goldfish long enough to form a bond similar to the ones we got to have with these koi. Carps in general are cool!
Thank You! People have to stop assuming that goldfish live in a bowl. I'm sorry but wear did 'goldfish have a three second memory' come from? I do keep fancy goldfish, but I don't keep the highly modified versions. Also I feel like different countries have different breeding standards; which play a part in the quality of the fishes life.
@@nellythehamster7682 here in Portugal we have the lean looking goldfish and some lean body telescope ones. You see the telescope mostly in black colour. At least here they dont look weird and deformed :-) I was quite upset to see these ones with head bumps and puffed up.
@@nellythehamster7682 Yeah I reckon. I live in Australia and our animal and wildlife laws are extremely strict to the point certain breeds and species of pets are completely banned. I don’t know the regulations on goldies but I bet they are quite strict.
It's especially sad because regular goldfish can live over 40 yrs old if they are in good health and the right conditions are met. Most fish do not really thrive in captivity.
I can't STAND those golfball looking ones. I've had a lot of fish die of dropsy and that's exactly what those fish look like they have. And the giant googly bubble eyed ones. Ppl need to stop.
I also don't think those fish are cute. To me, they are deformed. It's not in the animals' best interest to breed these deformities into them. I think we need to put the health of our companion animals above breeding for good looks or weird deformities.
I own a few fancy goldfish and i can definitely say they've shaved off a few years of my life . I started owning my first goldies back in 2018 after i graduated highschool, up until that point i had been researching about them like what size tank, how long they live, how to make gel food, veggies they can eat, what kinds there are and what the best setups for them where. Well not even half a year after getting them my ex boyfriends mom had killed 2 of them while i was visiting family. She decided she wanted to do something "nice" for me and do a 100% water change on my tank even though myself and the other household members told her many times not to do ANYTHING with my fish as i did spend over $150+ on them at the time and dedicated my free time to them and my cat. Well she took them out and placed them into a pot and completely wiped down the tank and drained it. Then she put 80 degree water into the tank since thats what the temp was around before, you're not supposed to do that let alone remove the fish and take all the water out. Two fish were dead within hours and I was left with "Ironically" my least favorite of the three i had, Mango. I rushed back to town and over there to sit by that tank all night long, not sure if she would make it or not and loathed my ex's mom till this day. By the next morning Mango was still alive and had their apatite back. Over the course of 3 days I stayed up all night making sure she was still alive, nothing else mattered to me. Fast forward the following months, I bought her companions from the pet store since i couldn't afford any more professionally bred ones. They grew quickly in the small 20 gallon tank we were limited to and i was planning to move them into a 40 gallon outside enclosure at my parents because my ex was becoming more abusive and his mom toxic. I had then gotten 4 new goldfish and a bristlenose from a breeder and kept them in the 40 gal outside with a heater since it was mid February and still snowing. We soon moved that following june and i had them in a 14 gallon tote in our basement while i began setting up my new 150 gallon tank. I was slowly giving away the guppies, mollies, plecos and the store bought goldfish to my cousin and coworker and eventually gave the 20 gallon tank to my manager at the time along with 2 of the goldfish. By then i had a new cycled 150 gallon and i finally introduced all my goldies to each other, with Mango being the Queen of the tank and the Matriarch. Over the course of time Mnago and ALL my other goldies start developing breeding stars, Mango was really a dude!!! I still referred to him as Queen of the tank. Fast forward the following year around October 2019, Mango starts having bloating issues and floats to the top of the tank so finally around November i buy a 10 gallon hospital tank to keep him in and while under going treatment he'd get better and then bloaty again. November of 2019 I had order my first goldies from kingkoi. Around this time I had come home from work and had found Mango had also wedged himself between the heater, corner and filter and burnt his fins, tail and side of his body. His bloating issue disappeared after that, but was replaced with something far worst. Over the next 3 weeks i had round the clock treated his burned by adding medication to both the burn and the water, cleaned his water every day, fed him peas, broccoli and seaweed sheets. The burn would had already new skin and scales starting to grow and his fins were completely healed, he was still sluggish but still got excited like a puppy when he saw me. Couple days before thanksgiving Mango at the age of 2 1/3 suddenly died. I was devastated as my first goldfish ever, the one who survived near death and was the big boss of my colony, the one that went from being least loved to the most precious child i had, died. The weekend after thanksgiving my kingkoi goldfish arrived. i kept them in the 14 gallon tote till they were ready to be added to the new tank. 1 of which dies 2 weeks later of what seemed like dropsy/bloating. 3 months after i finally added them to the colony. Any calico goldfish i ever tried owning would pass away within a week to 2ish months of owning them, as if it were a sign. Fast forward to today. I own 10 goldfish, one goldie from the kingkoi batch recently died to the bristlenose i had gotten from the original breeder that sent me mango, he's since been removed from my tank, but i have rescued several goldfish on the brink of death and they're as happy and healthy as can be. I do have one who was recently stuck in a feeding toy i made is undergoing treatment for a cut and a ripped tail. It's not too bad, but it still worries me as my mother had grown quite attached to him. 3 years into this hobby an it's definitely taken years off my life span from all the pain and turmoil it's caused me, but i still continue to keep my babies because they need me and i need them. they give me comfort and greet me every time i come home. I personally am against alot of the extra modifications they give goldfish, but there are some i think are okay enough to live with. This is just my story and maybe ill write it our better in the future and make a video about it, but until then i hope someone enjoyed reading my experience with goldfish so far. I will still continue to collect goldfish, especially telescope butterflies as they are my absolute favorite. But i dont think i'll be buying anymore for a while till i finally move out. Also, Mango has long since become my logo for my business and channel. He'll always be my sweet little Queen.
My heart, I’m sorry all this happened to you considering the lengths you go for your pets. It shows how huge of heart you have. Thank you for sharing this n know someone on the internet is very happy there are people like you who care for animals as much as you 🥺
@@karinac4555 Thank you. I means a lot to me that some people understand how important an animal(s) can be to someone. I love my goldies very much and try my best to give them a healthy and happy life, even if it’s brought be a lot of tears and pain, seeing them grow so beautifully and seeing them happy makes me happy💛
Yes they all have little personalities one of my old goldfish would constantly follow you and try to get in the way when my dad would do pond matience and my current goldfish will steal food away from my koi and even nip them if they try to go after the same pellet as him
@@asherkarr5096 aww they sound so cute. They really do have such unique individual personalities. I'm sure they're always finding a way to make you laugh. They're lucky they get to be in a pond and thrive.
agree i live here in finland, before when im buying goldfish like oranda and ranchu when i show them to fish group here in finland they said why im looking a fish look like abnormal and looks shit, thats why in that they i noticed they dont respecrt the breed.
I think its cruel to reduce the quality of life of fish just because you think it's "cute" or to make money from deforming these innocent little creatures. Its hard to even watch them struggling to swim or see where they are going.
One of the things that shocked me the most when i started working in petstores, was how little people cared about the welfare of fish. Modified goldfish can barely swim, and it broke my heart to see them like that because goldfish are truly great fish when they look and function the way they are supposed to
I feel like the fish shouldn't be illegal to have but also believe it should be illegal to breed. It isn't fair to the fish to be bread with un natural deformalities for the sake of peoples intertainment. But the ones that do exist should be cared for. It isn't fair to animals to go through that for human pleasure. There are so many beautiful healthy animals to admire. Why creat ones that are going to suffer?? I don't believe people who have them are bad people but i do think breeding them.. well you should put yourself in their place. Would you want to be intentionally bread to be blind, have a hard time walking or breathing and while you're struggling; be called cute. All for the sake of someone's intertainment ? It wouldn't be fair right? Just saying to be considerate of the animal.
@@Marie-si9xn it would still create regulations and consequences in which most people would find as a deturant. Alot of people would take a big fine just so they can breed fish. So it does do something. Id rather try to change something than just being willingly or intetionally ignorant of the situation or careless about it.
I had to laugh at the ad that I saw... "I don't keep goldfish anymore... here's why..." Ad pops up with a heavyset naked guy in the shower. I thought to myself, "yup, that'd do it." LOL.
I have two Black Moors and yes, they need to have minimal, lower level, "eye safe" aquascaping for them to not injure their eyes. But, I find they can still see pretty good, plus their sense of smell is very strong which helps them find food. I agree with the unnecessary selective breeding of the "triple threat" - giant eyes, belly and head growths on one fish - has been taken too far to the point these poor babies live miserable and uncomfortable lives because of their anatomy. Hindering a fish's abilty to SWIM for human selfishness goes against the love of fish, IMO. Great subject to bring up!
Its just sad that these fish are treated like this. I have no problem with people who buy these fish as long as they give them a good life. I genuinely believe that these breeders need to keep the best interest of these fishes COMFORT and HEALTH and QUALITY OF LIFE over everything else.
@@woobeewooo oh yeah! I haven't even thought of that...thank you for opening my eyes and stopping me from supporting another one of those unethical breeders
I only like the comet/common goldfish and their tail varieties personally and don't support breeding the modified goldfish to such an extent to where they can't move as well. I really like watching healthy fish do their own thing ❤
I'd probably never own another fancy after my one I have now passes away I really want some comets but I'm worried that they may be mean to my current goldfish but maybe not cause he'll take food out of the mouth of my koi fish
Shubukin is another beautiful streamline breed. I loved mine. Her scales were copper with black spots, and silver and blue splashes with white fins. She was beautiful
I had these “artificial” and regular gold fish growing up. They had a lot of health issues but we treated them and gave them a long happy life of about 8-12 years.
To be honest it sucks. But at the same time, I feel as though that human kind have been doing this to animal life for such a long time that it'll never stop. Like dogs for example, a lot of obscured dog breads have such horrible health problems... but they're just so " cute " right? I honestly don't get how some of them are cute because instead I'm thinking " wow, I wonder how much pain it has to deal with. " Its even worse that it's like this to the extent of not knowing which animals have been created unnaturally by us. Like I had no idea that these goldfish weren't originally suppose to be like these, and its so sad. I do believe that it's okay to care for these animals though, because they already have to live in a very uncomfortable way, don't make their lives worse. They need love and affection too, it isn't their fault.
Agreed and I feel like the surest thing to prove that proves animals with modifications that harm it's quality of life is natural selection. If they were in the wild they wouldn't be able to survive compared to other fish and animals that have evolved to the conditions of their habitat.
When is it time to say "ok these suffering monstrosities we created have to be purged due to sorrow" then stop making them. Why is it that we do anything the same as our ancestors? They didn't have technology like us. They didn't understand the world and the consequences like we do. We shouldn't do things just because we have been doing them. Just stop in the middle of doing it and do something else like we do every time we do anything.
Haven’t even started the vid but I just want to say I already appreciate that someone took the time to address the terrible world of fancy goldfish. It amazes me how far people will go to breed a mutated fish
I think it's unethical to exploit this animals for their disabilities, that's when it becomes a problem. Of course disabled animals deserve love and good care, but when you buy fish (or any animal) FOR their disabilities/mutations, you're promoting unethical breeders that don't care about the animal's quality of life. With fishes this is specially a problem because they're sadly seen as throw away pets, easy pets that don't require care, that live a couple months and then you throw them away and buy another one (I know YOU are not like that of course but a lot of people think this way) This is also my opinion on dog and cat breeds btw, they are more normalized but they can get just as problematic So yeah, basically, the ones that already exist deserve love and care and to have the best life they can, but I don't think people should purposely breeding them for profit
I tried so hard to keep pearlscale goldfish... I named my babies Gordita, Gordita 2, 3, etc... Yeah they never lasted long AT ALL!! I felt so bad and I stopped getting them because it had nothing to do with my tank as I eventually found out 😢 Edit: Damn!! That's a lot of snails...
I had a black Moor goldfish named Eugene for about 4 years, I adored him 🖤 he went through 2 house moves and handled it like a champ. Sadly after some awful advice from my local pet store he passed away. I still feel guilty about not doing more research and trusting the pet store who claim to be fully trained in aquatics. When I was telling a friend how heartbroken I was she just shrugged and said its a goldfish, they only live 2 years anyway... Heartbreaking that people think they're just a throw away pet and expect them to have short lives. Eugene should have had another 5 years atleast in him
Emma, I'm sorry for your loss... The thing I've learned about Life is some folks are dumbasses, purposefully stupid, or just plain mean...or a combination of the above.. Therefore, it's always best to check--- & double check--- just to make sure...😉
@@sharonwolfe5210 oh agreed, sadly I'd had such good advice from them in the past I was lulled I to a false sense of security, plus the Internet is a pain because its so back and forth about every little thing 😂 feel like you can't win sometimes!
I'm assuming you're referring to dogs like pugs- most brachy breeds aren't unhealthy anymore than say a retriever, and preservation breeders have started outcross programs for the pug to give the muzzle a bit more length and depth. I'm glad to see them working on it. :)
it happens with basically every domestic animal breed unfortunately :( mills just pump out as many cute animals as they can without considering breeding for health or temperament
@@spokehund747 we used to have perfectly fine pugs, because they would be out red pretty often. But now all of our dogs are like goldfish= line bred= inbred= unhealthy
Soooo great after years you are finally talking about them! Nice! At least you own up to the fact that you DID have them and made a lot of videos about them!
telescopes have better vision then most people think. But bubble eye and celestial eye goldfish are a huge problem because it forces their eyes up or you know the huge fluid filled sacks, ranchu tails are bent down in a way that makes it harder from them to swim. You all ready touched on pearscale, and the wens and lionhead growths can grow over their eyes and scales and you have to trim them back. Ryukins have really deformed bodies. Their insides still grow to the size of normal goldfish in their weird shape bodies. This is why, and the worst part of goldfish. But the worst problems they have are their inbreeding. This includes the comets, shibukins, tosakin and other single tail goldfish. I also keep telescopes, but all goldfish are highly inbreed and just genetical screwed to some extent. But goldfish are not the only fish that have these problems. Bettas and Flowerhorns to name a few. Its the same reason we should stop breeding most goldfish breeds (bubble eye, pearlscale, tosakin) just like we need to stop breeding pugs.
As a betta keeper this is how I feel about many types. Any long fins aka rosetails, halfmoons, veil tails, and crown tails have issues. Certain scale types have issues. The list goes on... just stick to standard plakats, standard scales. Same goes for goldfish just go for normal tails and scales and body shapes
I've kept goldfish on and off for many years and personally I don't like modified fish, except perhaps ornadas, butterflys and telescope in moderation! If the fish doesn't look like it's living to its fullest fishy life I feel really upset :c Those golfballs/pearl scales/balloon cheeked fishes just make me downright sad like, it isn't about keeping a fish anymore its about keeping a living ornament
I love Ranchus. I'm actually kind of sad you didn't mention them. But in my experience, the only issues I've had with them is the swim bladders. That's when I learned it's best to feed them sinking pellets. But I dont think there's nothing wrong with keeping fancy goldfish.
personally I also enjoy Ranchus, mainly ones that dont have the overabundance of the face garble- but yeah I totally understand that a lot of these fish have issues-
I remember trying to get my goldfish when I was little. The fish store keeper and my parents kept trying to push me to get the "cooler" goldfish that had puffy heads and cheeks but they freaked me out. I just loved the plain guys so much. They wound up being such nice pets and followed me around their tank. Miss you Goldie and princess :(.
I would love a video with your input on the daily maintenance of goldfish with swim bladder issues. I have 5 goldfish, it started with rescuing a couple feeder comets, and now I have a big tank. I imported two Orandas, that both have swim bladder issues. I live in a big city, with many exotic vets, yet they all keep referring me to our local zoo to deal with the swim bladder issue. The likelihood of me ever getting a return call from the zoo is close to zero. I am able to, most days, keep my fish swimming normally, by feeding multiple small meals throughout the day. But on occasion, they still end up floating belly up. My other three fish are as healthy as can be. It’s very frustrating. I was lucky in the past that I never dealt with this with the dozens of fancy goldfish I’ve kept over the years.
I've had my two goldfish for 4 years and they've been sick at least 10 times. And I do everything I'm supposed to. They're currently in quarantine now sadly. My fiance said if they die we will not get any more goldfish.
Same reason my dad gave up having aquariums...they're just better off in nature. I have 2 turtles...theyre 21 yrs old. I have a lake for them and all good. They're really great pets actually...I can see them swin and chill out paws outstretched in the sun...if you have space to get them a tank/lake when they grow up i'd advise you this.
I had a black moor that was my heart and soul. He lived for 7 years. I had a very strong bond with him and miss him many years later. I have a common goldfish and two comet goldfish now that are great but there just seems to be something more with the fancy goldfish. They have more personality imo.
if you do decide to get back into goldfish keeping, i recommend comets!!! they start out small and more “basic” looking but as they grow their fins become very flowy and if taken care of their color is bright!! my boy Mele is going on 2 years old now, and he’s about 7 inches long
also, props to daniella for her english! i took IB spanish for 4 years, hung out with mostly spanish speakers in high school, dated a mexican (and spent a loooot of time around his family/friends who didnt speak english), and have been learning on my own for like 4 years, and still cant speak as much spanish as she can english lmao. i can understand a lot, not quite as much as she can, but my speaking is horrible lol. its definitely the hardest part. and also consider that spanish's grammer rules and stuff make a lot more logical sense than english, and there arent as many exceptions, weird spellings, and silent letters. english is just really frikin hard to learn for non native speakers bc it makes no frikin sense lmao
To be honest, I feel like this video is misleading. Goldfish are not a beginner fish, and they require very specialized care. The problem is that most people don't provide that care or only give the minimum, which will absolutely make them die sooner. When properly cared for, fancy goldfish live an average of 10-15 years (some even into their 20s). I still have my first ever goldfish, who is now almost 9 and a telescope eye. My fish are never ill; so it's weird to me that you say one was always sick when you kept them. The only time I've ever had a disease outbreak was when I added something from a different tank without understanding how to quarantine/ disinfect properly. Lastly, like with dogs, a genetic modification isn't necessary detrimental to the animal's health. Sure we've got unethical breeds like pugs, dachshunds, and bulldogs, but there's not necessarily anything wrong with having a beagle or Golden retriever. Same principle applies to fish with multiple mutations (tele- pearl scale oranda) vs a typical fancy goldfish (telescope or oranda).
Same thing with Bettas, I only like to buy plakat or “ short- finned” bettas because it makes me sad when they get a bit older and start to have more trouble swimming because of their long fins, or even sometimes are more prone to fin rot. This is just my experience and opinion so far
I agree, in my expirience halfmoons or other long finned bettas tend to be more sensitif to water quality, sometimes i have to change the water quite often.
I have Ranchus and they are big happy and healthy. I think people run into trouble when they start collecting too many. They are not potato chips lol. Goldfish hoarding is a thing!
Remind some of how we selectively bred pugs to have eyes to bug for their sockets and a face so squashed they can’t breathe. People shouldn’t support this at all
I love that you are so concerned with the quality of life and the individual needs and feelings of your animals. The fact that you have taken such care to CARE for animals that most people would say are "just a fish", is so heart warming. You and people like you, desire my faith in the human animal. Because of individual humans like yourself, this world has hope. Thank you for making the Earth a better place to live on. Any animal is blessed to have you as their "mommy" and a goldfish, no goldfish has ever been as fortunate as the goldfish that have had you in charge of their "bowl". We were put on this planet to be stewards of our world and serve those who we have dominion over. You are a good steward. If only we were all as caring and would practice such responsible stewardship skills, this planet would be a much more wonderful world indeed! Thank you.
Me too, I love telescope eye goldfish. I love their bulging eyes and tails especially when they're getting older. My oldest goldfish so far is two years and eight months old blackmoor. He's still alive uptill now. Actually, I bought five blackmoors way back 2018 but unfortunately, four of them died way back May 2020 not because of illness. My trapond (tarpaulin pond) broke down and it got flushed my 4 blackmoors, along with my 3 red white orandas which I considered as quality (no fault, no deform fins, fuse tails, and perfect scales). Most of my folks here that also, taking care of a goldfish, loves the oranda. Before covid, our town loves to held a goldfish competition. Seeing those bulging wens and big bodies, because of mix food gels and boosters that they eaten makes me.... IDK, it's just that, it's not normal to me.
(On the topic of gen modification) Soooo what about the pug, the chihuahua or that weird goblin cat thing? What about cows or horses or sheep?should we? Answer, yes, we already have anyways, we have ever since we could tame them, with them, we modified ourselves, to tolerate certain bacteria, to drink milk, to find dogs cute.... we didn’t stop to think wether cows wanted to give us milk and we shouldn’t think wether glow in the dark rabbits are a good idea.
Honestly, if you want the pet for your own amusement so badly you‘ll over look their health and pain for that amusement, that‘s what makes it evil. It‘s putting your own joy over another creature‘s life, health and happiness. If you wouldn‘t deliberately produce a horribly deformed suffering child for yourself just because you think their crippling horrible deformity is cute or silly to look at, don‘t do that to your pets. Buying these pets is enabling these breeders businesses. Gambling with lives of other species is just evil. You are not their god. Your wants are not more important than another creatures life, happiness and health. Animals are prechious lives. And so we should not treat them in ways we wouldn‘t wanna be treated. If you do wanna have a pet, get one ethically and respectfully. Because that life is prechious. Pets are not your property. They are part of your family the moment you invite them into your life and chose to take care of them. So treat them like family. Not like vanity.
if you're going to own goldfish to start with common goldfish and get your tank establish then dip your toes into fancy goldfish but know that you are to be spending a butt ton of money trying to keep an animal alive. I see so many people not prepared for fancy goldfish and the responsibilities it takes
Actually common goldfish need so so much space, that keeping them in an aquarium is pretty difficult. I'd suggest starting with a fantail/veiltail rather than a common one
I have butterfly telescope, black Moore, pearlscale, ranchu, oranda, lionhead, & several other "exotic" goldfish. All of them are rescues. I feel bad for them, people get them cause they're cute but don't realize that these fish need different care & can be a little more challenging than typical comet golds. Might as well give them good homes, they still need love & care just like any other pet.
In my country, gold fish (the standard looking ones) aren't even avialable at pet stores anymore because people just keep killing them within a few weeks after getting them. They keep them in fish bowls on aquarium gravel, no filters, no heater, no plants, just some plastic decoration. My childhood friends got two gold fish (20 something years ago). They killed them within 24 hours because they put the aquarium by the window and forgot there was a radiator directly underneath. They were kept in a tiny fish bowl. They got two more, had them for a few weeks, then they died too. Another friend told me how some children in her class regulardly killed the "class pet" goldfish by purposefully overfeeding them. Goldfish also grow huge if kept in a large enough aquarium and have really long life spans, but people think they are super easy pets you can just hand to children.
I think that it's the breeder's responsibility to take care and ensure the animals they breed are healthy and have a good quality of life, or they aren't good breeders. The animals they bring to life do not choose to be born, they aren't going to be born naturally (as in from two wild animals), so the breeder is responsible for them, and the suffering, pain and discomfort they have in their life as a product of their selected mutations. Then it's the buyer's moral responsibility to not support the pet trades of the unhealthy animals by buying them, or worse, starting to breed them themselves. They contribute to the problem, if no one bought specific morphs, they wouldnt be expensive and therefore sought after and bred. It's selfish to support the trade of animals that suffer and have a bad quality of life just because YOU want a pet that is pretty, cute, or novel. Alex from GoHerping has a great video on spider ball pythons (a pretty morph that sadly has neurological issues), i know its snakes instead of goldfish but I recommend watching it if you want a more thorough perspective on this because the subject is really similar and it covers a lot of great points in common.
“i drew a goldfish, anyone want it” heck yeah i want it😂 i keep fancy goldfish and i have noticed that it does affect their swimming abilities. my bubble eye hangs out in the top half of the aquarium and my pom pom has a hard time seeing
I have fancies. I’ve had them for 3 years never had any issues with them. I am also an avid plant keeper and planted my tank. I believe they deserve a natural set up because we created them and owe them a natural place to live since we did that to them. I think that is why they have been so healthy. And I have them in a heated tank so I think the combination has really helped the health of my fish
We do the same thing to other animals, like bulldogs and munchkin cats. Doesn't make it any more ethical, but it seems to be a habit of ours to breed things to the extreme whether the animals suffer for it or not
I just came from another video where they were featuring Ranchu goldfish, and the one thing that stuck out in my mind was how difficult it seemed for the fish to stay upright and swim. Unlike the common goldfish, these modified ones seem to have a difficulty simply not flipping onto their sides. I’d often see them having to make adjustments as they began tipping over multiple times just in a minutes time. And in trying to swim away, the flurry of tail swoops required just to move them a few centimeters was ridiculous. And the whole time the content producer was going on and on about how beautiful and cute these little goldfish were. Reminded me of how in China people once thought that the tiny mincing steps of a woman whose feet had been bound as a child was a thing of beauty.
Depends on what type of fish keeper you are. I have 2 orandas and a ranchu in a 75 gallon. As long as you give them the necessary space to swim, keep them with similar goldfish, and remove dangerous objects (like decorations) they will be happy fish. As fish keepers we decide what to put in our tank and we can tailor the conditions to match the requirements of the fish.
I would highly advise against it. They take a lot of work, and especially as a first pet they aren't the best option for someone young, even if you really do love them
I love fancy goldfish to but I do not like that sometimes they go overboard in the proportion. Like I like a butterfly telescope too, but I do not want one that are eyes that are TOO big. Also from what I heard the reason why the bubble eye goldfish lookup is because they were originally kept in ponds. So people would view them from the top. The same goes with the butterfly Telescope and the Top view Ranchu. They were bred to look beautiful to people who would only see them from above I guess that is why breeders cull their fish so heavily. It does not only get the features that they want but the fishes that are healthy and doing well ( relatively) with the features that they have. Also, remember that most goldfish breeders keep their fancy goldfish outside. Where they experience the elements like the heat of summer and the cold of winter ( Though some do heat their ponds, I am not sure how common that is) which may help in making those fancy goldfish a bit more hardy
The only fancy goldfish that I like and have kept are fantailed and veiltailed. They're some of the most basic fancy goldfish that exists and the fantail are on par with the common comet goldfish when it comes to health. So if you want to have goldfish but for some reasons don't like common comets I suggest going with fantailed once (or smaller tailed veiltailed once, too big fins can imped their swimming). Basically fantail goldfish are like comets but with an egg-shaped body with larger fins (and veiltail are once with extra large fins). They can come in several colours and combinations. I find them beautiful.
I had so many regular gold fish in a 120 gallon and loved them all! They died out little by little. But we should really stop playing with these fishes genetic makeup. It’s beginning to get unethical 😶 If you have them, cool, but don’t continue to buy them.
Thank you for making this video! I loved that you brought her onto the set, her English is good! I know you're into fish, but it reminds me a lot of the ball python debate (breeding causing health problems in the animal).
You thought it would be fun for a video to force your snake into biting you just to spray Lysol on it... why are you even on RUclips talking about mistreatment of animals?
I’ve had 3 pearlscale, one being a crown, I had so many issues on with that goldfish until he passed ( paid 200$ ) otherwise I’m ok with pearlscale & fancy goldfish in general!
I'm wondering if getting less goldfish and larger nicely bio active tanks/ponds would minimize them consistently getting sick/ having short lifespans? I understand with highly HIGHLY modified goldies theres not much you can do regardless of what home you provide them(within reason of course), wondering as someone who's never personally owned goldies and is curious!
Ive never kept fancies, I've only kept the "streamlined" breeds, commons, comets, and shubukin. They're my personal favorites. And while hardier than the fancy goldfish they are a LOT of work, but I loved my babies their entire lives; they passed all around 15 years old after 12 years of care in 2 40 gallon tanks. I miss them so much.
Fish in general are sensitive animals, if the water is to hot/cold, the ph to high, not enough bubbles, etc they can get sick. Goldfish are often seen as the acception as they tend to be harder fish, people tend to get away with badder fish keeping practices when it comes to goldfish. Then it becomes the question of whether the fish is weak from it's bad breeding (As we all know pet store breeders are a shit show) or if it's because of a problem with the tank or the body mutations. For most of the goldfish breeds the mutation isn't the problem it's the bad breeding that is. As goldfish in most countries are breed in mass not carring for the health of them or if they're related causing fish with higher health problems and complications. Short sighted animals is nothing new in nature aka rhinos. It's hard to breed for good eye sight when we can't see threw the animals eyes. There was a study done on people with how our eye sight developes and they found the more we stay in a confined space like a room the worse our eye sight developes. Then to think how we keep most fish in a glass box and bright lights how that type of environment might be effecting their eyesight. With the boms not all grow to a point of problem, and again such growths aren't uncommon in nature aka Turkey toms but the fish do have an advantage of them being under water taking away the weight of it. I do draw my line at the pearl and boogy eyed goldfish for no other reason of it restricts the comfort of the animal.
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I was today years old when I learned goldfish didn’t have different species but instead were genetically modified by humans 💀
most animal in pet hobby today are genetically modified even dogs facts.
almost all pets are like that basically 80% of captive-bred pets/animals were genetically modified by humans to make them more desirable and interesting
especially dogs and cats
Oh yeah, I just didn’t think it was that much. To the extent where they created new species of fish that didn’t even exist 🤔 but I guess that’s what humans do. With animals, food, and I’m surprised we don’t try it on ourselves cause it’s illegal.
Just search how watermelon or banana used to look like before modifications. Likely everything you know now has been modified one way or another.
same with dogs and cats. breeds are the result of inbreeding
This is my feelings on pugs and all animals that suffer medically because of our vanity reasons
Yes this is what I was thinking. There are too many animals that are being breed and have so many health issues. They either do them too small or too big. The German Shepard if you take a look at their spine from a picture back in the day and one in this timeline their back is more arched now.
Saddest thing ever poor things suffocating thier whole live to breath :( it would be like having asthma and i know
It's one thing to maintain genes like slightly longer fins, but when it comes to affecting actual mobility and lifespan, time to back up as breeders and remember we are animal husbanders first.
@@yenfr5306 Ikr, German Shepherds are my favorite breed of dogs and stupid breeders are ruining them and their health for a characteristic that isn't even nice. It's so sad to watch
Thank you. We as a species need to let pugs go. They live in hell just for us to go “Aww, the way he wheezes is so cute!”
I think anything that hurts their quality of life shouldn't be intentionally bred/purchased. As with dog breeds and various other animals, at the point "cute" becomes more important than their health and lifespan, that's a huge problem. If it's JUST a visual change (i.e. most snake morphs) that doesn't cause any problems, by all means - go for it - why not - but if it harms them in any way, there's just no good reason to do it.
*coughs in snake wobble genes* I agree with this
*cough cough* pugs
totally agree with you, but i'd add something: knowing they have issues (illnesses and so on) if they person that wants them has the $ and the care to give them a good quality of life even with all of their problems, its ok for me.. whats awful is people buying these animals not knowing whats ahead, and then abandoning them, or just letting them die bc they cant give them the care they need (like the swim bladder fix - or in some small dogs like pugs, like breathing/heart problems...)
@@Nyalrii
... or not having the correct parameters (speaking of fish) for space and cleanliness...
A two ft fish should not be in a 10 gallon tank--- for that matter, neither should a beta be in a short vase sans heater or decent filtration ( natural or mechanical)...
The OP said what I was thinking, but put it much better than I...
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I don't like it. I think animals should be bred for good health & long lives.
I was wondering a long time ago if betta fish were modified as well
@@bgc3864 male betta fish with super long tails are bred to look like that and it affects their swimming when they're adults which is why i like female bettas better. i don't think it necessarily causes any health issues but i didn't want a fish that kinda just floated around bc it's fins were too long for it to swim well
@@jordanlindsaytaggart159 Not just super long tails can be a problem with betta
The dragon scale betta (male but also female I think) can develop diamond eyes, the scales grow on the eyes and can (not always) make them blind (and so all the problems with that, like searching for food or hurt them self with the decor)
Jordan Lindsay Taggart yeah I noticed bettas with long tails have their tails sink down. Probably due to it being so heavy
Agreed
I believe breeding for anything other than health, intelligence and temperament is wrong. We should be working to lift up other species, not deforming them. That is pure selfishness.
if we can IMPROVE quality of life with breeding we should
Humans are selfish creatures just some more than others
what utter crock. the more intelligent and fit an animal, the less domesticated they become. humans have always bred animals to fit their own needs and for good reason.
@@Katherine-qs8ws Just because something always has been, does not mean it always will be. In the last century alone we have made leaps and bounds in regards to animal welfare and knowledge about genetics, as well as knowledge on birth defects and the results of excessive inbreeding. Hell, just a few hundred years ago the concept of HUMAN rights barely existed. The future is bright in this way.
PrimaDeluxe we know how to make animals stronger already. The answer is to release them into the wild and let the weak ones die of starvation, predation, and disease while the strong and smart survive and breed. Even your own assumptions about breeding are kind of hubris and assume that humans are godly and can somehow tell the animal what is best for it.
My friend’s oldest goldfish was 10 years old, he died of old age. Her second oldest goldfish is 8 years old, the other 7. She adores these fish and forms strong bonds with them. To my surprise, the gold fish actually remember her face and my friend has taken the time to train them to do tricks, it’s kinda cool watching what I thought was some stupid fish actually do somewhat intelligent things. As a result of adoring these fish, my friend is really passionate about this topic, wanting to educate people on the truth about goldfish and the mutations people find ‘cute’, that goldfish require a lot more care than just putting them in a bowl of water and are not the easiest pet to keep.
Not quite the same (but cousin-enough), but my family rescued a group of koi from neglectful, abusive owners. Those guys could actually tell me apart from my parents and were adorable. We kept them for two years before a koi enthusiast with a natural pond setup became their new home, but in those two years I definitely got the impression that they were at least as smart as the cats. They could even tell when I would stick my hand in just to play and when it was food time.
I'm still sad that we never knew how to take care for a common goldfish long enough to form a bond similar to the ones we got to have with these koi. Carps in general are cool!
Thank You! People have to stop assuming that goldfish live in a bowl. I'm sorry but wear did 'goldfish have a three second memory' come from? I do keep fancy goldfish, but I don't keep the highly modified versions. Also I feel like different countries have different breeding standards; which play a part in the quality of the fishes life.
@@nellythehamster7682 here in Portugal we have the lean looking goldfish and some lean body telescope ones. You see the telescope mostly in black colour. At least here they dont look weird and deformed :-) I was quite upset to see these ones with head bumps and puffed up.
@@nellythehamster7682 Yeah I reckon. I live in Australia and our animal and wildlife laws are extremely strict to the point certain breeds and species of pets are completely banned. I don’t know the regulations on goldies but I bet they are quite strict.
It's especially sad because regular goldfish can live over 40 yrs old if they are in good health and the right conditions are met. Most fish do not really thrive in captivity.
I personally feel that if it causes the fish discomfort or decreases the quality of life it should be a no go.
I can't STAND those golfball looking ones. I've had a lot of fish die of dropsy and that's exactly what those fish look like they have. And the giant googly bubble eyed ones. Ppl need to stop.
Goldfish that have dropsy are different from pearlscale. They just look rounded
Yes, my cousin has a fish tank with these type of big brain goldfish and they just look abnormal.
I also don't think those fish are cute. To me, they are deformed. It's not in the animals' best interest to breed these deformities into them. I think we need to put the health of our companion animals above breeding for good looks or weird deformities.
agree 100%
Some of them looked like their body was to Heavy and big for their fins honestly...
Same things with dogs and cats, it’s horrible.
I had a black butterfly telescope goldfish and some of my friends said that fish is ugly as all hell....lol
I own a few fancy goldfish and i can definitely say they've shaved off a few years of my life .
I started owning my first goldies back in 2018 after i graduated highschool, up until that point i had been researching about them like what size tank, how long they live, how to make gel food, veggies they can eat, what kinds there are and what the best setups for them where.
Well not even half a year after getting them my ex boyfriends mom had killed 2 of them while i was visiting family. She decided she wanted to do something "nice" for me and do a 100% water change on my tank even though myself and the other household members told her many times not to do ANYTHING with my fish as i did spend over $150+ on them at the time and dedicated my free time to them and my cat.
Well she took them out and placed them into a pot and completely wiped down the tank and drained it. Then she put 80 degree water into the tank since thats what the temp was around before, you're not supposed to do that let alone remove the fish and take all the water out. Two fish were dead within hours and I was left with "Ironically" my least favorite of the three i had, Mango.
I rushed back to town and over there to sit by that tank all night long, not sure if she would make it or not and loathed my ex's mom till this day.
By the next morning Mango was still alive and had their apatite back. Over the course of 3 days I stayed up all night making sure she was still alive, nothing else mattered to me.
Fast forward the following months, I bought her companions from the pet store since i couldn't afford any more professionally bred ones. They grew quickly in the small 20 gallon tank we were limited to and i was planning to move them into a 40 gallon outside enclosure at my parents because my ex was becoming more abusive and his mom toxic.
I had then gotten 4 new goldfish and a bristlenose from a breeder and kept them in the 40 gal outside with a heater since it was mid February and still snowing.
We soon moved that following june and i had them in a 14 gallon tote in our basement while i began setting up my new 150 gallon tank.
I was slowly giving away the guppies, mollies, plecos and the store bought goldfish to my cousin and coworker and eventually gave the 20 gallon tank to my manager at the time along with 2 of the goldfish.
By then i had a new cycled 150 gallon and i finally introduced all my goldies to each other, with Mango being the Queen of the tank and the Matriarch. Over the course of time Mnago and ALL my other goldies start developing breeding stars, Mango was really a dude!!!
I still referred to him as Queen of the tank.
Fast forward the following year around October 2019, Mango starts having bloating issues and floats to the top of the tank so finally around November i buy a 10 gallon hospital tank to keep him in and while under going treatment he'd get better and then bloaty again.
November of 2019 I had order my first goldies from kingkoi.
Around this time I had come home from work and had found Mango had also wedged himself between the heater, corner and filter and burnt his fins, tail and side of his body. His bloating issue disappeared after that, but was replaced with something far worst.
Over the next 3 weeks i had round the clock treated his burned by adding medication to both the burn and the water, cleaned his water every day, fed him peas, broccoli and seaweed sheets. The burn would had already new skin and scales starting to grow and his fins were completely healed, he was still sluggish but still got excited like a puppy when he saw me. Couple days before thanksgiving Mango at the age of 2 1/3 suddenly died. I was devastated as my first goldfish ever, the one who survived near death and was the big boss of my colony, the one that went from being least loved to the most precious child i had, died.
The weekend after thanksgiving my kingkoi goldfish arrived. i kept them in the 14 gallon tote till they were ready to be added to the new tank. 1 of which dies 2 weeks later of what seemed like dropsy/bloating.
3 months after i finally added them to the colony. Any calico goldfish i ever tried owning would pass away within a week to 2ish months of owning them, as if it were a sign.
Fast forward to today. I own 10 goldfish, one goldie from the kingkoi batch recently died to the bristlenose i had gotten from the original breeder that sent me mango, he's since been removed from my tank, but i have rescued several goldfish on the brink of death and they're as happy and healthy as can be. I do have one who was recently stuck in a feeding toy i made is undergoing treatment for a cut and a ripped tail. It's not too bad, but it still worries me as my mother had grown quite attached to him.
3 years into this hobby an it's definitely taken years off my life span from all the pain and turmoil it's caused me, but i still continue to keep my babies because they need me and i need them. they give me comfort and greet me every time i come home.
I personally am against alot of the extra modifications they give goldfish, but there are some i think are okay enough to live with.
This is just my story and maybe ill write it our better in the future and make a video about it, but until then i hope someone enjoyed reading my experience with goldfish so far.
I will still continue to collect goldfish, especially telescope butterflies as they are my absolute favorite. But i dont think i'll be buying anymore for a while till i finally move out.
Also, Mango has long since become my logo for my business and channel. He'll always be my sweet little Queen.
Aww
@@jennarenee5210 I am really surprised anyone read my essay of a comment XD
My heart, I’m sorry all this happened to you considering the lengths you go for your pets. It shows how huge of heart you have. Thank you for sharing this n know someone on the internet is very happy there are people like you who care for animals as much as you 🥺
@@karinac4555 Thank you. I means a lot to me that some people understand how important an animal(s) can be to someone. I love my goldies very much and try my best to give them a healthy and happy life, even if it’s brought be a lot of tears and pain, seeing them grow so beautifully and seeing them happy makes me happy💛
Wow, if you were still in school the teacher would grade you an A+++ if this was an essay.
If kept healthy they live long years but it's insane what there doing well the common goldfish are the cutest in my opinion 😅
Yeah the rest look weird,
The common goldfish look the healthiest in my opinion which is why i like them the most as well 😊
The longest I’ve ever kept a fancy goldfish alive is I still have them
Nah lion head or ranchu 😂
@@thewonderfulwizardofcodsaq3472 lion head ranchu are the cutest and normal ranchu
They're very smart animals. And very capable of showing love and affection. All animals suffer because of humans. It's so sad. It's not ok
Yes they all have little personalities one of my old goldfish would constantly follow you and try to get in the way when my dad would do pond matience and my current goldfish will steal food away from my koi and even nip them if they try to go after the same pellet as him
@@asherkarr5096 aww they sound so cute. They really do have such unique individual personalities. I'm sure they're always finding a way to make you laugh. They're lucky they get to be in a pond and thrive.
@@1jazzyphae they're amazing I love having fish
No they are Not smart animals and do not show love or affection. Know you because of feeding. Have kept goldfish for 60 years..love them.
Lol
It’s sad that people do not respect these beautiful animals
agree i live here in finland, before when im buying goldfish like oranda and ranchu when i show them to fish group here in finland they said why im looking a fish look like abnormal and looks shit, thats why in that they i noticed they dont respecrt the breed.
Betta fish: my genetics and fins are fucked because of inbreeding from insane breeders
Goldfish: hold my beer
I love fish, especially goldfish. But I think we need to stop making "designer" animals. It's not natural and really cruel
I think its cruel to reduce the quality of life of fish just because you think it's "cute" or to make money from deforming these innocent little creatures. Its hard to even watch them struggling to swim or see where they are going.
One of the things that shocked me the most when i started working in petstores, was how little people cared about the welfare of fish. Modified goldfish can barely swim, and it broke my heart to see them like that because goldfish are truly great fish when they look and function the way they are supposed to
I hate how people are like: "Oh that's too deformed, I like when they're normally deformed." Like what.
I feel like the fish shouldn't be illegal to have but also believe it should be illegal to breed. It isn't fair to the fish to be bread with un natural deformalities for the sake of peoples intertainment. But the ones that do exist should be cared for. It isn't fair to animals to go through that for human pleasure. There are so many beautiful healthy animals to admire. Why creat ones that are going to suffer??
I don't believe people who have them are bad people but i do think breeding them.. well you should put yourself in their place. Would you want to be intentionally bread to be blind, have a hard time walking or breathing and while you're struggling; be called cute. All for the sake of someone's intertainment ? It wouldn't be fair right? Just saying to be considerate of the animal.
These are actual fish breeds the reason why they're so unhealthy is because of selective breeding.
@@emilyjones7606 agreed, which is why breeding should be the thing illegal, not the fish.. .-.
@@justm720 I agree.
banning stuff doesn't do anything, people will still do it
@@Marie-si9xn it would still create regulations and consequences in which most people would find as a deturant. Alot of people would take a big fine just so they can breed fish. So it does do something. Id rather try to change something than just being willingly or intetionally ignorant of the situation or careless about it.
Man if I was one of those modified goldfish, I would want to be put out of my misery.
Good thing ur a shrimp
@@youropinionsareshitandsoar1954 Yep
Mmmmm shrimp 🍤 🤤
@@horchata_demon5766 pls don't eat my shrimp Larry
The modifications are seriously ugly and if unhealthy for the fish should be stopped👎🏽
Ikr. Like they literally look like that: deformities. Even if it looked super beautiful it shouldn't happen. This is animal abuse
I feel her, I speak english and understand spanish, but I have trouble actually speaking spanish.
This is me- but with French. I speak English and understand French fluently...however, I have a bit of trouble actually speaking French.
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It's sad that people don't respect goldfish the way they should :(
I had to laugh at the ad that I saw... "I don't keep goldfish anymore... here's why..." Ad pops up with a heavyset naked guy in the shower. I thought to myself, "yup, that'd do it." LOL.
People don't respect fish in general. Dumbasses have killed fish on Tik Tok.
I have two Black Moors and yes, they need to have minimal, lower level, "eye safe" aquascaping for them to not injure their eyes. But, I find they can still see pretty good, plus their sense of smell is very strong which helps them find food. I agree with the unnecessary selective breeding of the "triple threat" - giant eyes, belly and head growths on one fish - has been taken too far to the point these poor babies live miserable and uncomfortable lives because of their anatomy. Hindering a fish's abilty to SWIM for human selfishness goes against the love of fish, IMO. Great subject to bring up!
Its just sad that these fish are treated like this. I have no problem with people who buy these fish as long as they give them a good life. I genuinely believe that these breeders need to keep the best interest of these fishes COMFORT and HEALTH and QUALITY OF LIFE over everything else.
@@woobeewooo oh yeah! I haven't even thought of that...thank you for opening my eyes and stopping me from supporting another one of those unethical breeders
Their profit would massively dwindle though
@@xxprogamerxx7770 good point
@@xxprogamerxx7770 but they should know that their money is covered in blood
People should really stop playing "God" with these poor animals' genetics.
I only like the comet/common goldfish and their tail varieties personally and don't support breeding the modified goldfish to such an extent to where they can't move as well. I really like watching healthy fish do their own thing ❤
me too ❤
I'd probably never own another fancy after my one I have now passes away I really want some comets but I'm worried that they may be mean to my current goldfish but maybe not cause he'll take food out of the mouth of my koi fish
Shubukin is another beautiful streamline breed. I loved mine. Her scales were copper with black spots, and silver and blue splashes with white fins. She was beautiful
@@Reihaa I love shubunkins as well! I would love some if I had enough space for them
@@CasylumArts space?
Look into killifish!
I had these “artificial” and regular gold fish growing up. They had a lot of health issues but we treated them and gave them a long happy life of about 8-12 years.
To be honest it sucks. But at the same time, I feel as though that human kind have been doing this to animal life for such a long time that it'll never stop. Like dogs for example, a lot of obscured dog breads have such horrible health problems... but they're just so " cute " right?
I honestly don't get how some of them are cute because instead I'm thinking " wow, I wonder how much pain it has to deal with. " Its even worse that it's like this to the extent of not knowing which animals have been created unnaturally by us. Like I had no idea that these goldfish weren't originally suppose to be like these, and its so sad.
I do believe that it's okay to care for these animals though, because they already have to live in a very uncomfortable way, don't make their lives worse. They need love and affection too, it isn't their fault.
Agreed and I feel like the surest thing to prove that proves animals with modifications that harm it's quality of life is natural selection. If they were in the wild they wouldn't be able to survive compared to other fish and animals that have evolved to the conditions of their habitat.
When is it time to say "ok these suffering monstrosities we created have to be purged due to sorrow" then stop making them. Why is it that we do anything the same as our ancestors? They didn't have technology like us. They didn't understand the world and the consequences like we do. We shouldn't do things just because we have been doing them. Just stop in the middle of doing it and do something else like we do every time we do anything.
Haven’t even started the vid but I just want to say I already appreciate that someone took the time to address the terrible world of fancy goldfish. It amazes me how far people will go to breed a mutated fish
I think it's unethical to exploit this animals for their disabilities, that's when it becomes a problem. Of course disabled animals deserve love and good care, but when you buy fish (or any animal) FOR their disabilities/mutations, you're promoting unethical breeders that don't care about the animal's quality of life. With fishes this is specially a problem because they're sadly seen as throw away pets, easy pets that don't require care, that live a couple months and then you throw them away and buy another one (I know YOU are not like that of course but a lot of people think this way)
This is also my opinion on dog and cat breeds btw, they are more normalized but they can get just as problematic
So yeah, basically, the ones that already exist deserve love and care and to have the best life they can, but I don't think people should purposely breeding them for profit
And this is why I'm more into koi
I tried so hard to keep pearlscale goldfish... I named my babies Gordita, Gordita 2, 3, etc... Yeah they never lasted long AT ALL!! I felt so bad and I stopped getting them because it had nothing to do with my tank as I eventually found out 😢
Edit: Damn!! That's a lot of snails...
I had a black Moor goldfish named Eugene for about 4 years, I adored him 🖤 he went through 2 house moves and handled it like a champ. Sadly after some awful advice from my local pet store he passed away. I still feel guilty about not doing more research and trusting the pet store who claim to be fully trained in aquatics. When I was telling a friend how heartbroken I was she just shrugged and said its a goldfish, they only live 2 years anyway... Heartbreaking that people think they're just a throw away pet and expect them to have short lives. Eugene should have had another 5 years atleast in him
Emma, I'm sorry for your loss...
The thing I've learned about Life is some folks are dumbasses, purposefully stupid, or just plain mean...or a combination of the above..
Therefore, it's always best to check--- & double check--- just to make sure...😉
@@sharonwolfe5210 oh agreed, sadly I'd had such good advice from them in the past I was lulled I to a false sense of security, plus the Internet is a pain because its so back and forth about every little thing 😂 feel like you can't win sometimes!
@@HEYITSPAXO
So true !
Just remember--- *C Y A* !!
(aka- "Cover Your Ass ! )
I think it's sad we create animals for our amusement just for them to suffer. The same thing happens with dog breeding :(
I'm assuming you're referring to dogs like pugs- most brachy breeds aren't unhealthy anymore than say a retriever, and preservation breeders have started outcross programs for the pug to give the muzzle a bit more length and depth. I'm glad to see them working on it. :)
it happens with basically every domestic animal breed unfortunately :( mills just pump out as many cute animals as they can without considering breeding for health or temperament
@@spokehund747 we used to have perfectly fine pugs, because they would be out red pretty often. But now all of our dogs are like goldfish= line bred= inbred= unhealthy
i would love the goldfish drawing
Same
Right or a reference to copy draw myself.
You did it beautifully and with love...
Nice job 👍🔥❤️
“sorry for my spanglish”😭😂 she’s doing a great job
I love love love her speaking English. The effort alone is touching and she did really well!
This conversation goes way deeper than mutating goldfish but y’all ain’t ready for it yet
Soooo great after years you are finally talking about them! Nice! At least you own up to the fact that you DID have them and made a lot of videos about them!
telescopes have better vision then most people think. But bubble eye and celestial eye goldfish are a huge problem because it forces their eyes up or you know the huge fluid filled sacks, ranchu tails are bent down in a way that makes it harder from them to swim. You all ready touched on pearscale, and the wens and lionhead growths can grow over their eyes and scales and you have to trim them back. Ryukins have really deformed bodies. Their insides still grow to the size of normal goldfish in their weird shape bodies. This is why, and the worst part of goldfish. But the worst problems they have are their inbreeding. This includes the comets, shibukins, tosakin and other single tail goldfish. I also keep telescopes, but all goldfish are highly inbreed and just genetical screwed to some extent. But goldfish are not the only fish that have these problems. Bettas and Flowerhorns to name a few. Its the same reason we should stop breeding most goldfish breeds (bubble eye, pearlscale, tosakin) just like we need to stop breeding pugs.
I haven’t watched your videos in awhile but I remember watching you when you first started. You’ve gained so much confidence. I’m so proud of you 🥰
I wish I can dye my Hair like yours but my Filipino mom could never-
Ify
your body is yours btw
I'm assuming you are still young, so all I will say is wait until you move out of home, that's what I did
@@Solace6428 I'm 17
@@cyanblue5888 so yes, still young. Just wait until you move out of home, then do it
As a betta keeper this is how I feel about many types. Any long fins aka rosetails, halfmoons, veil tails, and crown tails have issues. Certain scale types have issues. The list goes on... just stick to standard plakats, standard scales. Same goes for goldfish just go for normal tails and scales and body shapes
female half moon dont really have that big of a tail though?
@@adoreyou7449 but there are actually some that actually have a tail similar of a halfmoon male
I knew about tail types but what are the scale types?
I've kept goldfish on and off for many years and personally I don't like modified fish, except perhaps ornadas, butterflys and telescope in moderation! If the fish doesn't look like it's living to its fullest fishy life I feel really upset :c
Those golfballs/pearl scales/balloon cheeked fishes just make me downright sad like, it isn't about keeping a fish anymore its about keeping a living ornament
I love Ranchus. I'm actually kind of sad you didn't mention them. But in my experience, the only issues I've had with them is the swim bladders. That's when I learned it's best to feed them sinking pellets. But I dont think there's nothing wrong with keeping fancy goldfish.
personally I also enjoy Ranchus, mainly ones that dont have the overabundance of the face garble- but yeah I totally understand that a lot of these fish have issues-
I remember trying to get my goldfish when I was little. The fish store keeper and my parents kept trying to push me to get the "cooler" goldfish that had puffy heads and cheeks but they freaked me out. I just loved the plain guys so much. They wound up being such nice pets and followed me around their tank. Miss you Goldie and princess :(.
I have never heard of them called "telescope" goldfish. I have heard of them called "pop-eyed" as apparently their eyes can explode.
Unfortunately
I would love a video with your input on the daily maintenance of goldfish with swim bladder issues. I have 5 goldfish, it started with rescuing a couple feeder comets, and now I have a big tank. I imported two Orandas, that both have swim bladder issues. I live in a big city, with many exotic vets, yet they all keep referring me to our local zoo to deal with the swim bladder issue. The likelihood of me ever getting a return call from the zoo is close to zero. I am able to, most days, keep my fish swimming normally, by feeding multiple small meals throughout the day. But on occasion, they still end up floating belly up. My other three fish are as healthy as can be. It’s very frustrating. I was lucky in the past that I never dealt with this with the dozens of fancy goldfish I’ve kept over the years.
I've had my two goldfish for 4 years and they've been sick at least 10 times. And I do everything I'm supposed to. They're currently in quarantine now sadly. My fiance said if they die we will not get any more goldfish.
Same reason my dad gave up having aquariums...they're just better off in nature. I have 2 turtles...theyre 21 yrs old. I have a lake for them and all good. They're really great pets actually...I can see them swin and chill out paws outstretched in the sun...if you have space to get them a tank/lake when they grow up i'd advise you this.
It sounds like she stressed herself out with to many at one time
I had a black moor that was my heart and soul. He lived for 7 years. I had a very strong bond with him and miss him many years later. I have a common goldfish and two comet goldfish now that are great but there just seems to be something more with the fancy goldfish. They have more personality imo.
if you do decide to get back into goldfish keeping, i recommend comets!!! they start out small and more “basic” looking but as they grow their fins become very flowy and if taken care of their color is bright!! my boy Mele is going on 2 years old now, and he’s about 7 inches long
Comets are another great breed to start out with, and they get along well with other streamlined breed.
also, props to daniella for her english! i took IB spanish for 4 years, hung out with mostly spanish speakers in high school, dated a mexican (and spent a loooot of time around his family/friends who didnt speak english), and have been learning on my own for like 4 years, and still cant speak as much spanish as she can english lmao. i can understand a lot, not quite as much as she can, but my speaking is horrible lol. its definitely the hardest part. and also consider that spanish's grammer rules and stuff make a lot more logical sense than english, and there arent as many exceptions, weird spellings, and silent letters. english is just really frikin hard to learn for non native speakers bc it makes no frikin sense lmao
To be honest, I feel like this video is misleading. Goldfish are not a beginner fish, and they require very specialized care. The problem is that most people don't provide that care or only give the minimum, which will absolutely make them die sooner. When properly cared for, fancy goldfish live an average of 10-15 years (some even into their 20s). I still have my first ever goldfish, who is now almost 9 and a telescope eye. My fish are never ill; so it's weird to me that you say one was always sick when you kept them. The only time I've ever had a disease outbreak was when I added something from a different tank without understanding how to quarantine/ disinfect properly. Lastly, like with dogs, a genetic modification isn't necessary detrimental to the animal's health. Sure we've got unethical breeds like pugs, dachshunds, and bulldogs, but there's not necessarily anything wrong with having a beagle or Golden retriever. Same principle applies to fish with multiple mutations (tele- pearl scale oranda) vs a typical fancy goldfish (telescope or oranda).
Been here since you fixed your apple snails shell. You’ve improved really well in your editing! And I’m glad RUclips algorithm let me find you again.
Same thing with Bettas, I only like to buy plakat or “ short- finned” bettas because it makes me sad when they get a bit older and start to have more trouble swimming because of their long fins, or even sometimes are more prone to fin rot. This is just my experience and opinion so far
I agree, in my expirience halfmoons or other long finned bettas tend to be more sensitif to water quality, sometimes i have to change the water quite often.
I want the snail update. Has she stopped keeping snails too??
I have Ranchus and they are big happy and healthy. I think people run into trouble when they start collecting too many. They are not potato chips lol. Goldfish hoarding is a thing!
Remind some of how we selectively bred pugs to have eyes to bug for their sockets and a face so squashed they can’t breathe. People shouldn’t support this at all
I love that you are so concerned with the quality of life and the individual needs and feelings of your animals. The fact that you have taken such care to CARE for animals that most people would say are "just a fish", is so heart warming. You and people like you, desire my faith in the human animal. Because of individual humans like yourself, this world has hope. Thank you for making the Earth a better place to live on. Any animal is blessed to have you as their "mommy" and a goldfish, no goldfish has ever been as fortunate as the goldfish that have had you in charge of their "bowl".
We were put on this planet to be stewards of our world and serve those who we have dominion over. You are a good steward. If only we were all as caring and would practice such responsible stewardship skills, this planet would be a much more wonderful world indeed! Thank you.
Me too, I love telescope eye goldfish. I love their bulging eyes and tails especially when they're getting older. My oldest goldfish so far is two years and eight months old blackmoor. He's still alive uptill now.
Actually, I bought five blackmoors way back 2018 but unfortunately, four of them died way back May 2020 not because of illness. My trapond (tarpaulin pond) broke down and it got flushed my 4 blackmoors, along with my 3 red white orandas which I considered as quality (no fault, no deform fins, fuse tails, and perfect scales).
Most of my folks here that also, taking care of a goldfish, loves the oranda. Before covid, our town loves to held a goldfish competition. Seeing those bulging wens and big bodies, because of mix food gels and boosters that they eaten makes me.... IDK, it's just that, it's not normal to me.
you're monster. having fun of others suffering.
@@nom3nnescio how can I? My pond broke due to its fragility. You misunderstood it.
(On the topic of gen modification) Soooo what about the pug, the chihuahua or that weird goblin cat thing? What about cows or horses or sheep?should we? Answer, yes, we already have anyways, we have ever since we could tame them, with them, we modified ourselves, to tolerate certain bacteria, to drink milk, to find dogs cute.... we didn’t stop to think wether cows wanted to give us milk and we shouldn’t think wether glow in the dark rabbits are a good idea.
The Spanglish queen did great!
Honestly, if you want the pet for your own amusement so badly you‘ll over look their health and pain for that amusement, that‘s what makes it evil. It‘s putting your own joy over another creature‘s life, health and happiness. If you wouldn‘t deliberately produce a horribly deformed suffering child for yourself just because you think their crippling horrible deformity is cute or silly to look at, don‘t do that to your pets. Buying these pets is enabling these breeders businesses. Gambling with lives of other species is just evil. You are not their god. Your wants are not more important than another creatures life, happiness and health. Animals are prechious lives. And so we should not treat them in ways we wouldn‘t wanna be treated. If you do wanna have a pet, get one ethically and respectfully. Because that life is prechious. Pets are not your property. They are part of your family the moment you invite them into your life and chose to take care of them. So treat them like family. Not like vanity.
if you're going to own goldfish to start with common goldfish and get your tank establish then dip your toes into fancy goldfish but know that you are to be spending a butt ton of money trying to keep an animal alive. I see so many people not prepared for fancy goldfish and the responsibilities it takes
Actually common goldfish need so so much space, that keeping them in an aquarium is pretty difficult. I'd suggest starting with a fantail/veiltail rather than a common one
Common goldfish need a bonkers amount of space. Just get a betta fish
I have butterfly telescope, black Moore, pearlscale, ranchu, oranda, lionhead, & several other "exotic" goldfish. All of them are rescues. I feel bad for them, people get them cause they're cute but don't realize that these fish need different care & can be a little more challenging than typical comet golds. Might as well give them good homes, they still need love & care just like any other pet.
Your friend’s English is very good and I enjoyed her opinions a lot. 😊
Steff: it’s scientifically proven that fish are therapeutic for human brains (and animal brains)
Cats: C O N S U M E
I love you video steff.. its very informational and relaxing to watch🥰❤️
In my country, gold fish (the standard looking ones) aren't even avialable at pet stores anymore because people just keep killing them within a few weeks after getting them. They keep them in fish bowls on aquarium gravel, no filters, no heater, no plants, just some plastic decoration.
My childhood friends got two gold fish (20 something years ago). They killed them within 24 hours because they put the aquarium by the window and forgot there was a radiator directly underneath. They were kept in a tiny fish bowl. They got two more, had them for a few weeks, then they died too.
Another friend told me how some children in her class regulardly killed the "class pet" goldfish by purposefully overfeeding them.
Goldfish also grow huge if kept in a large enough aquarium and have really long life spans, but people think they are super easy pets you can just hand to children.
The „Normal“ Goldfish is still the prettiest of all of them and y’all can’t Change my mind.
I think that it's the breeder's responsibility to take care and ensure the animals they breed are healthy and have a good quality of life, or they aren't good breeders. The animals they bring to life do not choose to be born, they aren't going to be born naturally (as in from two wild animals), so the breeder is responsible for them, and the suffering, pain and discomfort they have in their life as a product of their selected mutations.
Then it's the buyer's moral responsibility to not support the pet trades of the unhealthy animals by buying them, or worse, starting to breed them themselves. They contribute to the problem, if no one bought specific morphs, they wouldnt be expensive and therefore sought after and bred. It's selfish to support the trade of animals that suffer and have a bad quality of life just because YOU want a pet that is pretty, cute, or novel.
Alex from GoHerping has a great video on spider ball pythons (a pretty morph that sadly has neurological issues), i know its snakes instead of goldfish but I recommend watching it if you want a more thorough perspective on this because the subject is really similar and it covers a lot of great points in common.
It the same with litterly all species we humans hold as pets. Dogs, Cats, Horses, Snakes litterly everything.
"being so round, sometimes slows you down" - story of my life, sis
“i drew a goldfish, anyone want it” heck yeah i want it😂 i keep fancy goldfish and i have noticed that it does affect their swimming abilities. my bubble eye hangs out in the top half of the aquarium and my pom pom has a hard time seeing
They’re not “fancy” goldfish, they’re genetically mutilated more than natural goldfish.
I have fancies. I’ve had them for 3 years never had any issues with them. I am also an avid plant keeper and planted my tank. I believe they deserve a natural set up because we created them and owe them a natural place to live since we did that to them. I think that is why they have been so healthy. And I have them in a heated tank so I think the combination has really helped the health of my fish
Looks like she overstocked and overwhelmed herself.
@@JA-ux1rz it’s easy to happen. Mine are in a 30 gal and display spawning behavior. I have fish that eat protein that just eat the eggs for me
Your friend is doing well with her english. :)
We do the same thing to other animals, like bulldogs and munchkin cats. Doesn't make it any more ethical, but it seems to be a habit of ours to breed things to the extreme whether the animals suffer for it or not
The golfball fish and the ones with the bubble eyes make me sad ngl.. I don't know if I would keep those.
I have golfball goldfish and she od in perfect helt, also live whit my shubankin and arent any slower then him to find food
I just came from another video where they were featuring Ranchu goldfish, and the one thing that stuck out in my mind was how difficult it seemed for the fish to stay upright and swim. Unlike the common goldfish, these modified ones seem to have a difficulty simply not flipping onto their sides. I’d often see them having to make adjustments as they began tipping over multiple times just in a minutes time. And in trying to swim away, the flurry of tail swoops required just to move them a few centimeters was ridiculous. And the whole time the content producer was going on and on about how beautiful and cute these little goldfish were. Reminded me of how in China people once thought that the tiny mincing steps of a woman whose feet had been bound as a child was a thing of beauty.
Yes I want the drawing!! You should do a giveaway
Depends on what type of fish keeper you are. I have 2 orandas and a ranchu in a 75 gallon. As long as you give them the necessary space to swim, keep them with similar goldfish, and remove dangerous objects (like decorations) they will be happy fish. As fish keepers we decide what to put in our tank and we can tailor the conditions to match the requirements of the fish.
How can I convince my parents to get me an axolotl
Say that it will be something to make you more responsible
I would highly advise against it. They take a lot of work, and especially as a first pet they aren't the best option for someone young, even if you really do love them
I love fancy goldfish to but I do not like that sometimes they go overboard in the proportion.
Like I like a butterfly telescope too, but I do not want one that are eyes that are TOO big.
Also from what I heard the reason why the bubble eye goldfish lookup is because they were originally kept in ponds. So people would view them from the top. The same goes with the butterfly Telescope and the Top view Ranchu. They were bred to look beautiful to people who would only see them from above
I guess that is why breeders cull their fish so heavily. It does not only get the features that they want but the fishes that are healthy and doing well ( relatively) with the features that they have.
Also, remember that most goldfish breeders keep their fancy goldfish outside. Where they experience the elements like the heat of summer and the cold of winter ( Though some do heat their ponds, I am not sure how common that is) which may help in making those fancy goldfish a bit more hardy
Keeping living beings that clearly are suffering from perverse over breeding just for your own amusement is sick, to me.
The only fancy goldfish that I like and have kept are fantailed and veiltailed. They're some of the most basic fancy goldfish that exists and the fantail are on par with the common comet goldfish when it comes to health. So if you want to have goldfish but for some reasons don't like common comets I suggest going with fantailed once (or smaller tailed veiltailed once, too big fins can imped their swimming).
Basically fantail goldfish are like comets but with an egg-shaped body with larger fins (and veiltail are once with extra large fins). They can come in several colours and combinations. I find them beautiful.
U shouldn't mix gold fish in my opinion
Porque.no subes todos tus videos a steff j mx?
I had so many regular gold fish in a 120 gallon and loved them all! They died out little by little. But we should really stop playing with these fishes genetic makeup. It’s beginning to get unethical 😶 If you have them, cool, but don’t continue to buy them.
So in the case of butterfly goldfish... How is it much different than betta fish with big, flowy fins?
She did an amazing job with English I mean I take French and I can’t say anything so yassss queen 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Thank you for making this video! I loved that you brought her onto the set, her English is good! I know you're into fish, but it reminds me a lot of the ball python debate (breeding causing health problems in the animal).
You thought it would be fun for a video to force your snake into biting you just to spray Lysol on it... why are you even on RUclips talking about mistreatment of animals?
I've been watching goldfish videos for years on RUclips. How have I never come across your channel till now?!?
I’ve had 3 pearlscale, one being a crown, I had so many issues on with that goldfish until he passed ( paid 200$ ) otherwise I’m ok with pearlscale & fancy goldfish in general!
I'm wondering if getting less goldfish and larger nicely bio active tanks/ponds would minimize them consistently getting sick/ having short lifespans? I understand with highly HIGHLY modified goldies theres not much you can do regardless of what home you provide them(within reason of course), wondering as someone who's never personally owned goldies and is curious!
Yo esperando a que lo subas al español :>
No es necesario, ella hacia estos videos de golf fish, cuando solo hacia videos en inglés... Puede buscar otro contenido para su canal en Español
@@desisarod I actually understood this I guess my Spanish lessons are paying off
Aprende inglés
RUclips disabled community subtitles recently, and in personally upset.
@@Solace6428 XK hablas en inglés mamador
Ive never kept fancies, I've only kept the "streamlined" breeds, commons, comets, and shubukin. They're my personal favorites. And while hardier than the fancy goldfish they are a LOT of work, but I loved my babies their entire lives; they passed all around 15 years old after 12 years of care in 2 40 gallon tanks. I miss them so much.
Fish in general are sensitive animals, if the water is to hot/cold, the ph to high, not enough bubbles, etc they can get sick. Goldfish are often seen as the acception as they tend to be harder fish, people tend to get away with badder fish keeping practices when it comes to goldfish. Then it becomes the question of whether the fish is weak from it's bad breeding (As we all know pet store breeders are a shit show) or if it's because of a problem with the tank or the body mutations.
For most of the goldfish breeds the mutation isn't the problem it's the bad breeding that is. As goldfish in most countries are breed in mass not carring for the health of them or if they're related causing fish with higher health problems and complications.
Short sighted animals is nothing new in nature aka rhinos. It's hard to breed for good eye sight when we can't see threw the animals eyes. There was a study done on people with how our eye sight developes and they found the more we stay in a confined space like a room the worse our eye sight developes. Then to think how we keep most fish in a glass box and bright lights how that type of environment might be effecting their eyesight.
With the boms not all grow to a point of problem, and again such growths aren't uncommon in nature aka Turkey toms but the fish do have an advantage of them being under water taking away the weight of it.
I do draw my line at the pearl and boogy eyed goldfish for no other reason of it restricts the comfort of the animal.
My pinky had swim bladder issues, I wonder if there’s a correlation