'How to listen to music' by Daniel Barenboim
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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when he said shopping list I thought he said Chopin, Liszt...
+Arieh Chrem HAHAHA genius, very funny
jajaja!
Arieh Chrem I think u don't know how to pronounce "Chopin"
same here
To listen well, you have to get a potato clock!
"Listen to and focus on the first note and don't let it go...and then fly with it to the last note..." Daniel Barenboim
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Does anyone actually realize how genius this man is. He plays all of Beethoven's sonatas by memory.
David Vorobeichik and also he can conduct while playing the piano...stands up to conduct the sits down and plays piano and conducts with his head then stands again and so on...
this guy is insane, my objective was playing all the 12 trancendental etudes by ear, and he plays 32 sonatas. That's freaking awesome
@@ArthurAgamenon_ you objective is crazy as well. I can only imagine the amount of practice you had in order to achieve this goal.. Good job!
@@apostolismoschopoulos1876
I actually wanted to say "by memory" but I got confused when writing, i'm not tryhard to the point of taking so much
@@ArthurAgamenon_ despite the use of words, I understood what you wanted to say. Did you achieve the objective? Mine is by the end of 2021 to play sonatas 19&20 of beethoven
I really do think that what he says is the perfect answer to give to those people who tell me 'I'm not a musician, how could I appreciate classical music?'. That's the point: music breaks with labels, and by the time we listen to music we interact with another world, an unknown one which can be discovered only through the mystery of sound. Thanks Maestro, thanks for saying it so poetically, with glazing eyes full of love for your noble job.
What a great musician!!!
"Even when the music is about suffering, we enjoy it" / "Music never loves or smiles, music never cries, it always smiles and cries at the same time" - Daniel Barenboim
These are not only words of a professor, but teachings of a master. A man that talks about a very profound spirituel experience that people can have with the sounds. Even with the sounds of silence...great, Maestro!
"You fly with the music until the last note." - Daniel Barenboim
That’s right! the main reason people don’t find classical music enjoyable is because all the music they have known and liked in their life is popular music made to be enjoyed without an effort. It doesn’t require you to know anything about how music works or anything, you just like the lyrics, you think the sounds are cool or maybe you even start liking it because of the song video or because you like the looks of the singer/band, etc, and most of the times it’s just kind of a nice background sound.
People just aren’t used to really pay attention to music and they can’t sit down and listen to a piece without getting distracted in their minds when 15 seconds pass.
It’s the same thing that happens to a lot of people when they try to read a book, and in certain moment the eyes keep following the letters but their mind is gone somewhere else, and after a while they realize and they go back and re-read. It’s hard to concentrate.
The problem with music is that you can’t go back to where you got lost. You missed it and you are more and more confused as time passes and as you don’t understand anything the sound starts getting irritating, especially if your hearing a full orchestra.
It’s really understandable how people speak or looks around or doesn’t know what to do during a concert. It’s as if they were watching a movie in a language they don’t understand very well and also they can’t concentrate and miss parts. They couldn’t hold on to it as maestro said.
Other things that contribute to not being able to concentrate because you don’t know what you’re supposed to hear:
- Not a full understanding of harmony hence your brain not being able to feel it and flow with it.
- Not knowing every single instrument of the orchestra hence not knowing what is producing the sound and just hearing a bunch of different blurry timbres.
- Not being familiarized with stuff like differentiating melody from accompaniment, main material from bridge material, the basic most usual forms, counterpoint, and how rythm works.
This will probably not even be read by anyone and if it does most likely it’ll be someone that knows the stuff I wrote, but if maybe it gets read by someone curious that is just starting to explore music, I would really like to recommend Aaron Copland’s book ‘What to listen for in music’ (and his music too) and I really encourage you to keep discovering music because what maestro Barenboim said is true! The enjoyment and pleasure music can give you is OUT OF THIS WORLD!! 😜😜
Very good comment. Music is a way of life. I could not live without music (or live and be happy let's say). Copland music is fantastic, especially its clarinet concerto, or the music of Appalachian Spring.
You are actually stating the opposite of what Barenboim is saying here..you claim one needs to know music theory in order to really listen to music. He states all it takes is the commitment to actually listen..to give yourself over to listening.
Juan Fernando Estrada : i enjoyed your comment, you get it.
I believe it's this kind of elitism that actually drives people away from classical. The idea that it takes a deeper knowledge in order to understand or enjoy it is absurd, especially considering the meaning of all music is subjective. Using your very same arguments, I could say that's why more people don't like heavy metal, or jazz, or R&B, or whatever. It all comes down to preference, which is driven/influenced by many different things. When I fell in love with classical music, I knew nothing about it. I came from a family that barely listened to music... and when they did, it was country. I literally didn't even know it was the string section that made the opening sounds of Beethoven's 5th symphony... but I knew I loved it. I never much cared for Bach though. Still don't to this day, even though I now understand counterpoint, harmonies, melodic progression, etc... I appreciate his works, but don't have a preference for them. In summary... classical is for anyone who has an interest in it, regardless of musical knowledge.
@@cuzknowledgeispower9468 Its mostly ignorant people who think one type of music is better than another, I mean people quote all the greatest classical composers ever and say that classical music is the best while conveniently ignoring the countless mediocre classical musicians who have been forgotten by time. Now off course Justin Bieber is not the epitome of music , but if someone tells me that the music made by the likes of beatles , pink floyd, led zeppelin, michael jackson, bob dylan , david bowie, , black sabbath , miles davis and many more is in some way inferior to classical music , then I will gladly disagree, i quoted these musicians specificaly because they have lasted the test of time for 40+ years, though the great classical composers have an advantage of having lasted for much more years , but people must remember that the music they made were the genre which was dominant at that time, and similarly current dominant music will also have its occasional ones in a generation musicians who will stand the test of time for centuries to come. Also another thing some elitist think is that only the intelligent people appreciate classical music , and then again if that was the case then Elon Musk would'nt be listening to edms and Frank Sinatra.
Also I the poster above think that people don't listen to classical because they can't decipher the various instruments and all, as if when classical music was popular all the general public was completely literate in music theory, also even small kids who haven't yet learned to speak are known to enjoy music, and its just a fact , all music has to do is to be pleasing to the ears.
What a treasure! "The more you give, the more you get back." I truly hope Maestro Barenboim gets back every joy and inspiration he has given us tenfold, for he fills our universe with more beauty than we'd ever dared hoped to find.
'hang onto the first note.. fly with it… until the end' Great truths can often be told in very few words. What a great man.
What an absolute inspiration
But when i AM so very stad.
I never had listen to music the way you describe it. With all my heart thank you for your words Mr. Barenboim
I can't work with music I don't fully understand. Ever since I was 5 years old I would find I loved certain songs more than others, and I would ask my dad to replay them over and over. I would listen to the songs I loved the most what many might call an unhealthy amount of times. It wasn't until I fully understood a song, until I memorized every instrument, every word, every moment of it, that I would move on to obsess with a new song. These songs that I would fully understand, this is the music I could work and study with (or at least pretend to), because of my understanding of these pieces, I could put them in the background, and they would help me set my mind in a certain state, often tied to the feelings and the mood that I personally associated with that specific piece. If I try to do any kind of work or activity with a song in the background, a song that I don't know, that I don't fully understand, to its core, I can't do anything.
In a way, I think this goes in hand with what Mr. Barenboim is saying here. I never take music for granted, it's not an accessory or something I use as a tool. Rather, its a state of mind, it's like changing the settings of a TV to fine-tune the watching experience, only with music it's more like fine-tuning the experience of life. It sounds corny, but I think it makes makes sense.
Not many people can give themselves to the music, but those who can, know that it feels amazing. You almost feels as if the composer is speaking to you in a language that is both foreign and familiar at the same time. To talk with Barenboim for even 5 minutes about music would be an absolute dream; though, 5 minutes would be no where near enough!
It’s a pretty stressful process! Listening well. But you get so much back.
Bravo Maestro! Music smiles and cries at the same time, so true. Thank you.
The act of listening to music in today's society no longer requires concentration, due to its on-demand availability in so many forms. Unfortunately, most people today listen to music only while doing something else. Only at a concert, where there is no possibility of doing anything else, when one's attention is undivided, is there the opportunity to listen with concentration.
As a student, it baffled me greatly throughout high school that other students talked amongst themselves whilst a concert played.
In university now, I'm really happy to be surrounded amongst fellow-minded musicians... but even then, seeing other university students of differing faculties talk over an on-going jazz concert was a bit jarring. :\
Actually, I've seen people playing games on their cell phones during concerts. With headphones on.
+karlakor
It is simply a difference between hearing music, or listening to music. You can hear music, and do other things. If you listen to music, you have to think about the music.
+karlakor I kinda miss the days when I was able to listen to classical music to help me focus on homework. If I try to do that now I either turn the music off or close my books.
Except that people can't put their ****ing mobile devices away at a concert. Tech distraction is the bane of our society.
It's sad that it's not in to "listen" to music anymore. To legitimately listen to music is life-changing.
brilliant brilliant brilliant,,, music always "smile and cry at the same time…." genial
2:49 "it always smiles and crys at the same time" very true for some pieces more than others, it is as if happiness and sadness, seeming opposites in the world we experience, reveal their true dual nature in emotional music.
And feeling good about sad music is not macabre as you already pointed out. Sadness is not really the bad thing, the bad thing is not knowing why you feel a certain way and misunderstanding yourself and the world. Music now can perfectly describe feelings for us wich we then can understand (re)experience in a cleansing way.
I'm at the intermediate level of piano-playing, and Daniel Barenboim and Arthur Rubinstein are my two biggest piano heroes! 🙌🙌
Such a wonderful to be one of your students mister Baremboin!
Everyone would love to be in such privileged position!
Barenboim is my mentor. Genius.
Thank you Maestro Barenboim...what a beautiful message...
…the will to attach yourself to it…. Sometimes you don’t need the will. The beauty of the music grabs you, so you stay with it even beyond the last note.
I absolutely loved this talk. As a classical music lover I have been listening to videos on listening to classical music to improve my listening. Also I took music appreciation in college in both cases I felt so much technical theory can intimidate a person just listening for the first time. As he makes it clear you listen for the beautiful sounds and entertainment. I admire him both as a conductor and musician
Glad I found this.
Wise words that we all need. We just need to slow down, listen, and let the music and our minds/souls take it in.
Thanks for sharing 👍
What an eloquent gentleman! I LOVE classical music and notice how frequently it makes me cry and maybe the composition I listened to has elements of sadness that evoke these feelings.
I just love that man!
absolutely
He is argentinian, as the Papa, messi maradona che guevara and juan Perón
He is a Jew born in Argentine and he is also an Israeli citizen as well as a citizen of Argentine. He is fluent in several languages as well as Hebrew.
Michajeru argentinian
Michajeru why do you believe than be a jew is something important? He is argentinian first. And then is a jew. As i am a cristian. Netanyahu is a jew too. And he is a killer.
How true and how well put! I will never understand the power of music. Music is synonymous with emotion. It is magic!
Pure music is from heaven through genuine and that is realized by excellent performers. Good audience can make that their spiritual property.
The honourable Daniel Barenboim is not speaking in his first language yet there is no misjudging his conveyance if English is your first language. To listen is the first step. To discern which instruments are present does to some degree take a first-hand familiarity as the second step.Anybody who has grown up with classical music will come to differentiate the viola from the violin or the clarinet from the oboe and so on. Some instruments like the harp and a piano are very easy to differentiate. As it is known today classical music is somewhere in the region of 500 years old and therefore being aware of what is going on in detail in terms of orchestral music can be daunting at times and challenging at others. My personal preference is for solo performances and here it is necessary to have a little experience of playing any instrument to gather instinctively what it is the composer is conveying through the piece. Greensleeves, ode to joy or pachelbels canon are easy introductory pieces yet a greater appreciation of the fundamentals of musical structure is necessary to understand depth and complexity of grander pieces.
Variance in timing and its influence on rhythm is not necessarily apparent to the casual listener much less the inattentive one. Major and minor scales and chords if tackled at a rudimentary level and no further lend a greater understanding of music later in life.Dissonance in relation to Harmony is yet another aspect that a casual listener may or may not discern. And so it is that classical music is not something you recommend the deep end to for someone who has heard it only in passing.
Wonderful, wise words of eternal truth.
Thank you Daniel Berenboim, that was expressed very well! I research and lecture on music and dance from the Dominican Republic and what you said is of value to all genres of music. "Give of yourself" thanks again.
More you give more you get back! 👏🙂✅️✅️✅️
He speaks from my heart. I'm 17, and I don't know much music theory. But my will to listen to rhythm and harmony lets me enjoy classical music more than popular songs. I admit I don't understand Mozart's genius (yet), but I'm able to follow Beethoven's river of music. Cheers!
You have all the time in the world!
Mozart's music is special because it's just so crystal clear and effortlessly simple, yet it can say so much. The only other composers who could this kind of clarity were Bach and Ravel
He has always been vitally important in my life . Even his earliest ecordings showed an unabated , almost superhuman commitment !
This is true genius. Give yourself to music and it will caress you like a baby. I Love it.
oh yes thank you, it is a story that unfolds in this magnificent language.... from my own heart I cannot speak with my mouth that which requires so many words, it will take me a lifetime. But, with one measure I can speak the glory of a single moment
Muy bien Daniel!!! estoy totalmente de acuerdo!! yo lo practico desde mis comienzos musicales ...cuando tenia 9 años ...hoy logre hacer experiencia ..ya voy por los 64 y todavia sigo descubriendo la hermosa y profunda belleza que la musica encierra.
Barenboim inspires us with his knowledge and abilities.
I listen frequently to several late compositions of Bach over and over again. Inadvertently I discovered while I was doing something else at the same time, I found myself in a frame of mind I can call being choicelessly aware, I had the highest enjoyment of this music I love. It does not happen every time. Allow yourself to be moved.
This is so wonderful, special and true! The more you give, the more you will get back. Live, breathe and feel the music, yes Ben, like a form of meditation I suppose.
I love this guy, he explains so well
Bravo, Maestro!
Wow, deep stuff. This is amazing. Everyone should see this.
***** No, they really shouldn't.
+Andrew Chung What an awesome profile picture you have sir
Glad you like it.
Thank you, maestro!
Jesus ........ this made me cry .............
This video can be something life-changing
Listening to maestro Barenboim talking about music gives the same pleasure as listening to a classical masterpiece 💖
When I listen to music, I say that I close my eyes and I open my heart, and that I fly with music to the musician's and composer's world. I do hate when someone disturbs me when I listen to music because it breaks the emotion up.
Hi Daniel,Thank you for your advice 😘
Amazing video maestro
This video must show to every man in the world
I am so happy about, what he says about finding the KINDS of music, that appeals to you more!!! I often wondered, what people mean, when they say they love classical music... I mean, there are so many different "types" - and I had a hard time admitting to myself, that symphonies are not my kind of music, mostly... Now I enjoy all the other stuff so much more!!! Lots of baroque music and Schuberts chamber music - and Steve Reich! - and so on :-)
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lovely words from a brilliant musician... I couldn't agree more with his statements, it doesn't matter whether it's Classical, Jazz, Heavy Metal, Folk or anything else, it all moves you if you let it. I can at one moment be listening to a death metal band such as Carnage and fell the power and ferocity, and then play a Debussy piece... And with both it is the same experience. It's this deep connection to what i hear which takes me away from the world around me and brings me somewhere far away. It really doesn't matter what form of music it is, its something that moves me and something that i understand better than anything else that i know... Maybe that's why i tend to be more of a deep thinker, but whatever the case is he has really taught me a way to involve myself further with music so that something more is gotten from the amazing experience.
ARTalive01 Re: "it doesn't matter whether it's Classical, Jazz, Heavy Metal, Folk or anything else, it all moves you if you let it."
Only if it's good.
Herbert Wells
That is applied in my comment... However music is subjective so stating "only if its good" implies that music could be rated... Now in all honesty there is a point where something just isn't good... But that's a story for a different time...
My point i guess in a nut shell is music is subjective so don't get the view that only music that is popular, music you like but others might not or music that is complicated amounts for good music... (Through again there is a point where a song or piece just purely sucks regardless of how hard you try to like it...) Anything even primitive styles of music could move you, it just matters how you take it in...
Herbert Wells My thoughts exactly. And it so happens that Heavy Metal is usually crap.
ARTalive01 I think the reason a lot of people don't like classical music is because it's too complex and they don't take the time to sit and listen to the notes. For them music is only ever background entertainment.
Joshua Rabone My usual explanation is, although cruel, that they're dumb.
Thank you very much for that. Having respect is the patience required to listen to the music of your soul...
I can't agree with this more, to see my own sentiment expressed in someone like Daniel Barenboim how I would put it exactly is amazing
...... muchas gracias por sus palabras Maestro ... hace un tiempo tuve la felicidad de verlo dirigiendo en Zürich ... una experiencia inolvidable que siempre guardare en mi corazon ...
I couldn't agree more!!!!
Music is the best thing that mankind ever invented.
I like that Daniel Barenboim mentioned Bach first, although I'm sure the order was randomly done. There are many important composers, but I have the impression that Bach never gets as much recognition as for example Mozart. Mozart is everywhere. Bach on the other hand not really, yet people know Bach. It's also difficult to find Bach concerts. I wonder why? His violion concerts are so colorful. I hope I can hear it live one day.
A beautifully explanation by Maestro Daniel Barenboim
Aaaa
8 Sibbo Britt a
thanks Dani
Those who create art and seek answers to formal questions don't function to give anyone a hide-space from the world. Schonberg .Boulez,Wuorinen ,Sessions,Jacob Druckman and thousands others are full of fascinating devices , ideas & sounds ....It's good to hear B speak about listening as interaction- giving. I would say all art requires this whether it is a chair, painting or building!
only sublime spirits create sublime artworks, and only sublime artworks inspire sublime emotions.
music is just one form of art, a media, what is conveyed matters.
Bruckner was really blessed by God to write heavenly melodies. How to not enjoy the opening of this vídeo with his 3th's adagio???
Music is the most important, moving art for me and I wonder why. Its abstract.
I react to it differently: I follow Beethoven. Mozart, Schubert,...
But Debussy and Chopin melt me. It absorbs me completely
My respects, Maestro!
Extend his lesson to everything in life:"Give yourself to all the things you are doing in the present moment" and your life will be much better.
Non Daniel, it's not difficult to listen to music when you are performing as a pianist or as a conductor. And not only it's easy but it's also a great pleasure.
I've never thought about music from that standpoint. Thank you
AWESOME!
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really exact and very good! thanks!
I would add another thing. It can be quite hard to stay constantly focused for some people, particularly with music which isn't strongly appealing to you, but if you do drift away into other thoughts when listening to music that you had intended to concentrate on and be completely involved in, don't punish yourself for it! Just bring yourself back to the music when you notice you have drifted. Both innately and having heard similar sentiments to those of Barenboim here I used to put a lot of pressure on myself to hear everything and not miss any note of the music and would be angry if I drifted away. It would ruin concerts for me. If listening to a CD or mp3 I would even rewind to where I thought I lost it which is completely disruptive and counter productive. Once I told a friend about it and he said 'oh I often drift into other thoughts but the music is still there all the time influencing me, I don't worry about it, I just come back'. After that I learned to relax about it, and in doing so actually became better at listening and enjoying. It is possible to inhabit a middle ground between full concentration and relaxing when listening, and better to be mentally present where you can than listening to music like you are taking an exam that you could fail at any moment! :)
Brilliant.
If anyone wondered, the music at the begining is Bruckner's 3rd symphony, 2nd mov.
Thank you, Maestro!
Very Insightful
music is everything at the same time....hang on to the first note you listen and fly....give yourself to music like you give yourself to another human being...give yourself as if with complete and total concentration....and the more you give the more you will get back...thank you mr. barenboim...isn´t it like love...maybe is a high form of love...
don´t you find music is more perfect than most things in life just because it sends us like nothing else in life right into our subconscious, our spirit, our soul, our inner mysterious sacred self.... which once was or still might be perfect? a reflection of the universe, of creation...of eternity...godlike?...i always suspected muses were angels...dont´t you?
I think Mr Barenboim might be kind of beating around the bush. What he calls the 'enjoyment' is in my humble opinion the catharsis, not necessarily the enjoyment (see the funeral march bit). Aristotle talked about it, be it in referral to tragedies... I think this might be very much the same when speaking of music. It is probably the language barrier, but 'enjoyment' just sounds wrong to me. Krystian Zimerman said it very well:
'Music is using sound to organize emotions in time.'
This man is gods messenger, listen.
love it
this is wisdom
Of course music to forget but what about music to remember? I listen to music to remember myself I just can feel. Thank you for the suggestions and to concentrate in music it seems difficult to me, as I don't have that ability to concentrate, nevertheless I will try, thank you again sir Barenboim.
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Admiro profundamente a este hombre. Un genio.
True poetry.
Amo a Daniel Barenboim
Amo escuchar musica
Viva la musica!
Mas das de ti, mas recibiras😍
Wonderful
Very nice.
Just... Thank You!
He's my hero.
what a beautiful way to portray mindfulness tousic
God bless you
Pure Truth Spoken here.
Wise words
68 years of experience... damn
PS: Music is not only to forget, also to remember
i've always thought about music like a whole thing. the most extreme antithesis of ourselves is involved. it's a deep encounter with ourselves. so happens with movies about war or for example, sadistic movies or films about sad histories... but i've particularly enjoyed a lot the pathetique by beethoven, that piece is made for me. but i think the music is something much deeper than films. i think it's an identification of inexpressible things that are saved into our souls, something emotionally superior to every other art, simply, because it is all about emotions, there's no a linear history or an argument like films, it's pure emotion. something grandiose which can be only taken out through sounds. but anyway i also think that there's no need to think about what music can give us, simply listen to it and enjoy. you only need the music to appreciate it, and if you can't appreciate it 100% then better to give up without doing useless questions.
to me, music( when i play an instrument) brings me some kind of identity. that is what music is for me but only when i'am the performer.
i think also that music is something more intimate and individual, the interpreter is the one who can appreciate it thoroughly, same happens for example with painting, art is something personal and individual, the artist and the performer are the one who feel art completely, unlike films, which is something more opened to the people, but at the same time something emotionally less powerful.
if you are a musician, oh my friend! be sure that the others are not feeling what you feel...
but from my own experience i've realised that while i'm listening to music my appreciation increases when i do something else but without forgetting music. it's better than listening to music without moving like a cadaver. if you are like me, who really wants to appreciate music, try what i said.
BUT I KNOW ONE PROBLEM ABOUT THE APPRECIATION AND CREATION OF THE MUSIC NOWADAYS!
i shall start by comparing different eras and the reception of the people about the music. if we transfer to the era of Beethoven or the era before the famous CDs or casetes or illegal downloads came out we realise that the music was more like a caprice for the people, i say caprice because the music was more like something excluded and something unknown: people only could listen to music in big halls with orquestras or played by them. it was something less usual compared to the situation of nowadays, thus people perciebe the music like a caprice, so there was more appreciation for the music.
on the other hand we have that nowadays music surrounds us continuately, we have music all around. we can get all the music we want with a click.
it's almost logic that, when less you have then more you'll get from those things you have.
well, i think about it like a problem for the appreciation of the music.
another one may be the impossibility to stand quiet without moving with yourself and the music, it's almost imposible to focus on the music completely and forget about everything.
this is our freedom of nowadays, we are like a vacuum which sucks everything it sees, and still not satisfied.
***** i'm glad you agreed. by the way that problem affects also the creation of music, not only appreciation, in my opinion.
The person who comes home and listens to music "to forget" is possibly not forgetting, but rather enjoying the music and might be doing so in exactly the way you describe: by listening from the first note to the last with utmost attention. By doing so that person will indeed forget unpleasant things and replace them with the pleasure and joy of listening.
I think he means finding meaning from music by relating it to your self and your life as apposed to listening to music to disconnect yourself from life.
Although I see your point exactly.
I could listen to him talk for hours
Music is life, is heart! ❤