Battlefield S4/E3 - The Battle of Manchuria - The Forgotten Victory
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Directed by Dave Flitton, Andy Aitken, James Wignall
Produced by Dave Flitton (series prod.), David McWhinnie, Ken Maliphant, David Rozalla
Written by Dave Flitton, Andy Aitken, James Wignall
Narrated by Jonathan Booth
Music by David Galbraith
Distributed by Public Broadcasting Service
Release date(s) 2000
Running time 6 116-minute episodes
Country USA
Language English
Thank you Vasile Luga for your time and effort to make these videos available. As an artist, writer, scholar and Human Being, these videos are indispensable for placing not only creative endeavors including painting or writing but also my own life and the world we now live in into historical context. The series is invaluable. The Battlefield series is so useful and well executed it's a rare gem. I'm thankful for those that created the Battlefield series and to you for sharing it with us. Warmest Regards , Theo Pope.
Ok off to play Hearts of Iron now
My4th Profile lol....im playing hearts of iron darkest hour while watching all of the series.
Watch you logistic in Eastern Siberia
Never played please where do I find it?
@Not Todd Howard More like annex half of europe as greece
@@mikhailv67tv if you still have yet to play, it's on steam. Personally my favorite strategy game. Its incredible
My great grandpa fought in the Mongolian army against the Japanese army in Khalin gol and the Soviet invasion of Manchuria
Did he fought also in the great patriotic war ?
Mine was in Burma
Mongolia was one of the Allies in World War II, right?
@@67nairb yep they fought together with ussr against japanese army in soviet-japanese border war and Soviet invasion of manchuria also that there are some of them who volunteers like 112th revolutionary Mongolian tank brigade and Mongolian arat squadron fought against nazi Germany in great patriotic war
@@purevjargalpuujee4845 what are you talking about?
To help out, we can be fairly certain that the Soviet Union 'decided' to commence its attack on the 9th August 1945 because Stalin had promised the British and Americans at the Yalta conference, that the Soviet Union would join the war against Japan three months after the end of hostilities in Europe. War in Europe ends 8th May 1945, Soviet war against Japan begins 9th August 1945, exactly 3 months later; no great mystery and nothing to do with the atomic bomb..
Still atomic bomb ended the war
@@oaaisjdujsi No , Soviet campaign ended the war ,Soviet troops defeated the Kwantung army, which was more than one million . The allies themselves said that they landing in Japan will be deadly
Yes the atomic bomb most certainly was the deciding factor in Japan's surrender.
@@oaaisjdujsi huge loses of japanese army: 600k troops in two weeks agains 12k of the soviet loses made it clear that the war was over for Japan.
Stalin moved the date up to August 9th for the attack on Munchuria because he saw what first atomic bombed did and wanted to get Russian influence in that side of Asia before japan would surrender and they had no say in what would be divided between the allies.
Logistics alone make this one of the most incredible military feats in history, delivering Japan its fatal blow. 800000 defeated in 3 weeks in every conceivable environment, from desert, mountain, swamp to island invasion, executed on multiple fronts simultaneously is unprecedented.
Everyone talks strategy, but experts study logistics
@@kevinstarmack7103 but you need both
@@yeetyeet5079 yea and Russia rn failed in logistics
by that time the Red Army was at its own level of combined arms operations. The Wehrmacht would have been close or equal, but it no longer existed.
There are few phenomenon in history as impressive as Soviet Russia completely destroying their ancient reputation as military embarrassments by turning the tide against Nazi Germany and ending up as the equal of the United States as the two most powerful nations that have ever existed
After fighting Germany on Suicide difficulty, Japan must have seemed as the easy mod.
ImTheWaffleman That's not what I was talking about.
The Russians were amazed when they attacked the Japanese home islands.
Badly placed minefields, tanks that were so weak the Russians though they were made out of paper.
The troops in Manchuria weren't the best, but inexperienced they were not.
The Soviets were simply that good.
When the Americans first arrived in Africa the Germans curbstomped them. And they had a hard time both in the Arden Mountains and in Italy even though most of Germany's best soldiers were fighting the Union and the US wasn't fighting alone, 50% of the Allied troops were GB/Commonwealth.
+Cyricist001 Well yes, it was a united effort. The best troops were not mostly all in the east, if I recall a great deal of SS were in the west. And yes actual the Japanese garrison in Manchuria was a inexperienced army (besides minor battles vs China) the best troops and pilots were sent to the pacific to fight the United States and were killed off almost completely by early 1944. And remember that Italy was an area considering completely unconquerable with the exception of Napoleon. The Ardennes and the battle of the bulge was brutal and one of Germany's biggest offensives in the war. I don't wish to stand an argument.
ImTheWaffleman There's a long running debate how good actually the SS were. They did get most of the new tech first but overall I wouldn't hold them above the normal troops in overall effectiveness.
Define to me what you consider inexperienced here since it seems we have different opinions on that one.
For me inexperienced are the US soldiers that received a quick training in the States and dropped in the Pacific to see their first battles and learn from them.
The Japanese in Manchuria weren't the best of the army, as you said those were send to defend the HI against the expected US invasion, but they had combat experience fighting the Chinese.
Not much, and certainly not against armored offensives with air support, but still experienced enough to fight defensively.
No, most of the Japanese army certainly didn't die against the US in the pacific. They were stationed on the Home Islands in the case of the invasion - but since Japan capitulated before that happened they survived.
Italy completely unconquerable? First time I heard something like this. Its an obvious exaggeration.
The Battle of the Bulge was hardly one of the biggest in the war. It was in the west no doubt but to the Russians it would be a skirmish.
"I don't wish to stand an argument."
I'm not sure what exactly you mean. You don't wish to start an argument or you don't wish to argue the points?
***** My Way was a good movie, apparently a true story. BUT it was a border clash in Khalkhin Gol in 1939.
Japan then wasn't in war with the US, and many of its soldiers there were the most experienced Japan had at the time.
Also, the SS did get the best equipment first, but because they were Hitlers pride and joy they weren't very experienced in combat, being kept as reserves and away from the front lines during most of the fighting doesn't make one a veteran.
Plus physically fit also doesn't mean a good soldier, experience in fighting makes a good soldier.
+Joe Stalin No, I'm saying soviet troops didn't experience the brutal suicidal fervor that the United States and Australia had to face.
Well at least the Russians fulfilled their promise.
Military doctoring the attacking army must outnumber the defending army by at least 3 to 1, the red army did amazingly well, after Liberating Manchuria a huge land they gave it to its rightful owners n left, the USA after defeating japan as the 1943 (Cairo declaration they signed stated) we will do whatever we can to force Japan to surrender n Return ALL land they occupied by force from other countries, the so called disputed islands between Japan n Chine which the Japanese occupied by force from China in their 1893 war 50 years B4 the Cairo declaration was sign, they did Not give the islnds to their rightful owners, on top now the US said in any conflict they will back Japan so who does n who does not keep their word
@Alan Carroll Jr So u think by swearing u win an argument? maybe the truth hurts? Ukraine was part on he USSR not occupied by them,
Yes. US and UK gave away Manchurian Railroad, Mongolia, and Port Arthur to Soviets without permission of Chinese Nationalists Government. It also gave Chinese and Korean Communists lifeline who were almost defeated by the Japanese and Chinese Nationalists. Hence, created today’s North Korea.
You’re all highlighting interesting facts but the bottom line is from PRC and USSR we saw the Land Reform, Great Chinese Famine and Gulags...it’s all genocide it just doesn’t suit the agenda or propaganda.
@Alan Carroll Jr how the F Soviets could occupied Ukraine if it was created by Soviets in the first place?
even sushis tasted the Gulag
NOW ITS YOUR ISIS TURN TOTAST THE GULLAG,.....FROM SERBIAN
Gulag were the same shit as the Western jails.
@@EnriqueVivancoH *Only in US. In gulags they had these penal labors where you would be forced to do work. In Western countries, only US still retains penal labor today.
You all joke about gulags but authoritarian’s threw their own innocent citizens into the gulags to be cannibalised.
@@marcusgotti8231old comment but still.
The gulags had a 30% mortality rate with 3 to 5 million People mobing trough them, of which 95% were criminals. All of this according to the CIA btw.
Gulag inmates were payed minimum wage, had a right to food medical care and other bssic necesities and were even allowed to publish newspapers.
In reality 90% of gulags were Just closed off vilages where people lived and worked normaly, but were oviusly forbiden from leaving these vilages
One thing I love about this BATTLEFIELD series is the detail it puts (1:22:19) in covering these unknown events!
Soviet:hey Japan
Japan:what?
Soviet:remember 1904-1905 war?
Japan:UMM yeah?
Soviet: *NOW GET READY BECAUSE IT'S GONNA HAPPENED AGAIN*
Thanks for posting this. I had some awareness of the battle for Manchuria , but had no idea of how large it was, how many troops were involved. I know the Chinese suffered greatly at the hands of the Japanese occupiers. It is easy to understand the joy and gratitude of the Chinese people in the area, especially since the Russians did not stay to be occupiers themselves.
Apart from where Manchuria became the primary land area held by the Chinese communists.
Macnutz420 Hardly anyone knows about this battle let alone the Soviet contribution against Nazi germany in which they largely win alone
There was actually more peace & less violent crime under Japanese occupation than there was under the civil war between the Communists & the Kuomintang (and the various warlords occupying the area) in the 1930s preceding it. The Guangdong Rebellion of 1933 is a good example. The Red Army also committed a horrific series of sexual assaults on the women of China when they occupied Manchuria; there's a BBC documentary called "1945: The Savage Peace" that goes into this in more detail on the European front. It was worse than what the Japanese had done in Nanking, and that doesn't go into what the Communists did to the countryside during their guerilla war against the Japanese.
That is: what the CCP were doing to their OWN PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRYSIDE because they "happened" to be under Japanese occupation & were working for the Imperial Japanese. So, in layman's terms, a rice farmer in the rural countryside with a family, who decided to enter into a lucrative contract with the Imperial Japanese because they took over his country... would get to see his home looted & family tortured by a series of Kuomintang-allied CCP soldiers, who identified this family as "traitors" guilty of "treason" because they engaged in a business contract. That's how you engage in a guerilla war, Mao was a master of guerilla warfare. His military tactics are still being taught today.
And west call this, liberation?
@@TheWersum Today they hate the Yanks more than the Japanese. Yet if not for US assistance they might be a Japanese territory. The Japanese were already finished by the time Stalin moved into Manchuria for booty.
@@TheWersumThe Japanese fought the hated combination of "ABCD." America, Britain, Chinese & Dutch...,....
I love that bit where they practice yelling!!
Thanks for the upload!
Lesson to draw from this...This terrain cannot be crossed. Except for the Soviets. Nobody can attack here. Except the Soviets. Nobody would even want to try to come this way! Except the Soviets. Soviets 1- Geography 0.
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The British made the same mistake about the Japanese in the Defense of Singapore!
They never thought that they would get hit from the rear.
Another lesson..just don't invade their country because if you do they will throw you out and follow you home!
jim davis Technically speaking the Japanese never attacked the Soviets.
Mihalis Benko
"Technically speaking the Japanese never attacked the Soviets"
There were actually quite a few 'border incidents' along the Manchurian (Manchukuo) Soviet border prior to the Kalkhin Gol disaster in September 1939. That disaster made the Japs EXTREMELY reticent about tangling with the Red Army ever again. You can argue that it was the Manchurians vs The Mongolians -- but they were proxies for the actual combatants, The Japanese Sixth Army vs the 57th Special Corps headed up by Georgii Zhukov who used the same tactics he employed at Stalingrad where he destroyed the German Sixth Army. COINCIDENCE ???????????? Doodledoodledoodledoo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
As an old Ausie vet , with an intterest in military events , I had no idea about the implications and the intracasy of the Manchurian campaign.
I knew it happened , but I had no idea how brilliantly the Russians carried it out .
To me , this video is amazing .
The Americans carry out actions without knowing what the end game is , while the Russians plan the before , during , and after of their campaigns .
I found this video very informative .
Thank you .
I wonder if Americans will ever see this .
Gordon Thomson what war did you fight in?
@Charles McCarron That is totally BS and if you depend on the "media" for your history, then don't cry
43:28 - The "Type 95" was no match for a T-34, especially late in the war. The Soviets DID have a monopoly on armor, contrary to whatever the narrator seems to imply...
That is debeable, as the Far Eastern's T-34's were transported from the West, the tanks before this, were still majority BT-5 & T-26 light tanks. so it wasn;t entireley 34's
@@BleedingSnow I don't think Soviet Union chose outdated BT-5 and T-26 tanks for this kind of lightening war when they have formidable T-34s on there hand.
@@karrole88 It wasn;t a choice, RL isn;t a game where you choose from every option available, you choose what you have, and if you don't have divisions of T-34's at the far West front, only in the Midlands, then it is what it is and you wait for the T-34's to come.
Take a look at the battles during the first week of Operation Barbaarossa, BT-5/7's and T-26's were the main losses throughout and in many cases completely wiped. At least the tanks were able to mobilize and in rare few cases even launcher counter attacks, the air force weren;t so lucky.
@@karrole88
In the Far East during the war there were 4500 tanks that were not transported to the western front.
In the USSR there were large reserves of tanks and etc. The problem was not in them, but in trained crews who lost more than they could train. You know that in the USSR at the beginning of the war there were 22,600 tanks. Do you think that everyone was lost? No - about 13,000 before the offensive near Moscow
War isn't about a tank Vs a tank or a fighter plane Vs a fighter plane. It's about the whole system of fighting. It's about logistics and your economy, your people's moral and the terrain and weather.
You could have a near invincible tank but it's pointless if it's not backed up by everything else. The tiger/king tiger being case in point.
Even into the modern day, the myth that this was the reason the Japanese surrendered still persists.
Thank you Vasile. So much of the Soviet influence during WWII was "forgotten." It was amazing after defeating such a formidable opponent in Nazi Germany the Red Army was battle-hardened like hell! All the lessons they learned fighting Hitler, they used in clobbering Imperial Japan. I thought the Japanese did not surrender. They sure surrendered in droves in this final battle of WWII.
Yes they did against the Red Army, both in Manchuria and on their home islands in Kurils and Sakhalin.
General:Ivan you see those japanese troops over there?
Ivan the SU-152 commander:Yeah?
General:I DONT WANNA SEE THEM
The amount of weaponry the Soviets were able to amass and coordinate is amazing
2:27 He said "securing ...booty...." heh heheh
Robert Smeagles ☆ You Go, Beavis!
I feel bad for the Japanese tanks running into T34-85s and IS2 Heavy Tanks And SU152 tank destroyers
Same lol they were so weak compared to the USSR
1 shot 2 kills & 1 disabled lol
@Крестоносец more than enough
The Japanese were pretty smart. They put a screening force near the border while the main forces were deep in the interior. This allows them to take advantage of interior lines and stretch out the Soviet logistics.
@@mt8956 So true
After watching these videos about the war, I think that if humanity had put all these efforts into peaceful development, it would have already reached the stars.
2:40 Thank you very much for telling the truth by publishing this documentary.
May the Yankees know who helped them in their struggle against Japan.
Best regards...
The Battle field series are the best historical documentaries about wars! Thank you, the Brits, and you are THE GREAT NATION OF THE UNITED KINGDOM!
Soviet force's completely overwhelmed Japanese forces in China, Manchuria it was the biggest defeat in Japan history.
Soviet Russia had defeated Japan before 1939 forcing the country into treaty.
Marty Robinson Biggest defeat in Japanese history my ass
@@rayz639 @Ray Z you're replying to a 3-year old comment you know, nonetheless Japanese casualties amounted to more than 600 000 men killed or captured, whether you like it or not it was "by pure statistics" the biggest defeat in Japanese history.
tony dayoub Idgaf how old it is people are still replying to arguments made centuries ago. That’s Soviet figures which are over blown, and the reason for the mass surrender was due to the formal surroundings of japan after the invasion. Midway and the Philippines campaign affected the war against japan far more then August storm did.
@@rayz639 oh so that's what this is about, I'm not talking about who contributed most to the war with Japan, obviously it's the US no question about it, this is not our subject, when we talk about a crushing military defeat, we mean that the enemy managed to achieve their military objective at impeccable speed inflicting a massive amount of casualties compared to small ones on their side, by statistics and numbers in terms of territorial losses, equipment losses, and manpower losses, compared to the enemy, in addition to the time during which all that was achieved, we can easily conclude that this is Japan's biggest defeat, the Soviet numbers seem accurate in terms of comparing them with the speed of the advance, it means the japanese couldn't mount much of a defense therefore they couldn't have managed to inflict many casualties, the mass surrender actually saved Japanese lives, they were being surrounded and cut off from all sides, true the Soviets would've taken more losses if those who surrendered instead fought, but the result would have been the complete annihilation of the Japanese just the same.
tony dayoub Are you speaking of purely by numbers, or which one damaged their war effort the most?
The last campaign of WW2
12:18 Churchill's reaction to the three way handshake cracks me up everytime
the other classic reaction, was when he came to the US to view US preparations and someone forgot to give him binoculars to see the aircraft flyover, so he improvised fake binoculars using his hands lol
If it's 1945 and your main tank is using a 37mm gun, you're fucked. The Soviets won't even notice the shells bouncing off.
26:40
Stalin: Okay, I'm off to meet with the other world leaders. I swear to god of you dont clean up this coup before I get back heads will roll.
The Soviets and Japanese thought an earlier battle at Khalgin Gol in 1939 on the border between Manchuria and Mongolia. The Japanese were defeated, and this led to the Soviet-Japanese Neutrality Pact. This lasted until the Soviets decided to invade Manchuria.
No, the Soviets retreated from the Neutrality Pact months prior. There was no violation.
@@vlad_47 So, did anyone say anything about a violation?
@@tomc642 Many say so and you seemed to imply it.
Wow I'm a 28 year old Russian who moved to America when I was 8... I never knew about this battle... thank you for putting this up!
are you russian from the far east or from europe?
@Charles McCarron "If you had stayed in Russia you would have had a better education!"
LOL, a "history" that totally omits any other allied contributions in WW 2 and their previous alliance with Hitler
Charles McCarron knowing about this isnt an education its a waste of time for american students
@@DawnOfTheDead991 someone's making bad faith statements if they think the allies dont also deny the contributions of the USSR take a US history class, it's nothing but denial
@@dlf7789 90% of German Army's casualties were on the Eastern Front. So yeah, we do know the USSR did the lion's share of killing
The Germans were fighting for the Father and Fatherland. Japan fighting for glory for the Emperor.
The Russians were fighting for Mother Russia. There is a huge psychological, philosophical and gut wrenching difference.
USA fighting for what then?
@@destroyerarmor2846 USA fights and will always fight for imperialism. LOL, like what even is that question?
It is hard for me to believe that the Japanese had very much military power, especially air power, left in Manchuria, after suffering so many defeats elsewhere. It would be crazy to leave powerful armies sitting idle in Manchuria while getting pushed back in Burma, Thailand, China, and all across the Pacific.
And the light Japanese tanks should have been wiped out easily by the T-34s, even without the massive Soviet numerical superiority, and superior tactics.
Not to take anything away from the Soviets here, and the terrain was huge and difficult, but I think that this one should have been a walkover, and was. The documentary is trying to make more out of this campaign than it merits. The
fact that so many Japanese prisoners (594,000) were taken stands in contrast to their performance in other theaters of war, and suggests they did not fight hard, here, understandably.
"Walkovers" were atoll jamps or scarce isolated jungle warfare right instead. All New-Guinea campain was along one single road. North African campain - along two. There were massive and most qualified land forces allocated in China against Soviet Far East and Continental Chinese armies. Especially counting japanese forces were heavily outnumbered by chinese. That is the point Quantung army was so strong.
teslagod2003 The russian tanks had superiority in russia and down through Europe because of huge numbers. They had 15-25.000 tanks while the germans had 4300 tanks. If the germans had the possibility to produce as many Tigers and the russians produced they would have won. The most advanced russian tank was the T-34, and in barbarossa, where most of the germans tanks fell, the T-34 only accounted for a small amount of the collected force.
If my english sux, it because I'm danish ;) Shelly sells seashells at the ...
Christian Hansen Most advanced Soviet tank was KV-1, IS-2 next. Germans produced T-4 ant T-V Panther mostly, not Tigers. T-V was all-going and more dangerous than Tiger. Most soviet tanks ran out of fuel in 1941 cause refuelers were lost to luftwaffe or were knocked out directly by Ju-87 . So as most germans tanks and APV were burned by IL-2 next.
teslagod2003 Know the stats before you speak. Red Army losses in the wear were around 11 million. The Germans lost around 9 million. You stereotype the Red Army as if they saw their men as disposable. This is little more than American bullshit and control of the narrative in this country.
intermediate Species Stats are different. Red Army had no APCs for infantry (thus heavy losses to mortar fire), etc.
Soviet losses were 8.6 mil, german (w/o satellites) less than 2 on all fronts (80% were to the East one).
Very informative, thank-you for the upload.
Probably that is why the battle with Russia is seldom mentioned by Japan.
+Wayne Tong The only thing they mention maybe the early 20th century russo-japanese war (which japanese won the war).. Nah, i guess not... with the dispute over Kuril islands, the war will still mention and debate in both country
Japans major war was against china and america so it's likely forgotten most of Japanese think world war 2 is the naval battle with aircraft and battleship in the pacific
Just like how Russians don't like talking about prior mid-1942.
Thank you for posting these.
This battle is most often referred to as Opperation August Storm. Easier to look up. At Potstan, Starlin declared the date of the battle and on that day declared war, oficially, on Japan. At Potsdan the first nuclia device was exploded,secretly. Starlin congratulated Trueman.
Good video. This is an interesting piece of the war in Asia that gets too little attention.
6:19 Mukden was the Japanese puppet name for Shenyang
Manchuria was 3 times bigger than France without infrastructure, no rouds fully offroud and mounting terrains
thank you for posting this,brother. love it! not only have i been unaware of this battle..i wonder how the hell order was maintained in Japanese or Soviet ranks at this extremely late point in war.post-ww2 really.
There must have been a great sigh of relief on part of the long suffering Manchurian people when at last their Japanese conquerors were driven out.
Wonder if the local Chinese would of guessed the Mongols would move in with orders from Russia and backup from across the Soviet Union.
Awesome documentary! Thank you!
Forgotten part of W.W 2 history thanx heaps for shareing. Who would have known this chunk of history
THANK YOU Vasile, Thank you for downloading ALL you're doc videos! This brings back memories of the History Channel at it's height of giving all of us such history AND Knowledge that Actually taught us something ! just sayin! PLEASE keep em coming WINNING!
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THANKS for posting this! Because of the anti-Socialism of the American rich, we who were kids in the 1950s & 60s got an incomplete history of the Soviet (and CPA's) contribution to the Asian victories of of WW2. I see brilliance and excellence in this tale; names that should be as well known an Rommel or Guderian but are not. Alas. When finished viewing, I shall seek out the books on the subject in English.Thanks again
Thank you for the upload , from San Diego,CA
It seems as though arrogance should be added to the list of Japanese failures'. Even then I suspect those Japanese grunts wasn't too arrogant after that arse kicking.
Having a shot of vodka tonight in honor of the Great Patriotic War. 🥃
I hope somebody won an award for this movie
I wish I had yelling class instead of class of being yelled at
Fascinating! i cant believe i did not know about this campaign. Im from France, studied in the US and all i have ever heard is that the Nagasaki bomb ended the war. What a shame.
jeffy141 Well, don’t feel too bad because in Russia they pretty much ignore everything done by allies other than Russia. I am not even joking or exaggerating. They don’t acknowledge when the war officially started and select the date they were attacked. And of course they say that allies help was insignificant.
Believe the video, don't believe any of these fucking loonies. Never believe any one fuckhead, always research for yourself, always look at multiple sides of a story. Be critical, think critically.
Soviets then and Russian govt also never officially acknowledge that they were dividing Poland with Germany. If it ever comes up they say "oh but Stalin HAD to take half of Poland!" and "the Red Army was just helping the polish communists" when in reality they even pushed out whatever real polish communists there were and installed their men.
Just as the americans say WW11 started on Dec. 7, 1941? Just sayin'
No Americans say that, not anymore at least. They say 1939 because the Brits say 1939, which tbh I HEAVILY dispute. Also, I didn't know there were 11 of the buggers. :P
I was a T-34 in a previous life.
@The Geek Is Strong Respect.
I watched this video and history of war,awesome and thanks again for sharing life with enthusiasm
Seems Germans really had taught Red Army to wage war. Russians had been really fast and diligent students, as this movie shown.
This is a story we in the West have a hard time getting our heads around. Since we were in the cradle we've been told it was the A bomb that brought an end to the war in the Pacific. The Soviet contribution is almost unknown making this an extremely important video. Thank for posting.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend made USSR and Alllies "friends" to defeat Hitler. Once that was done they resumed being hated rivals, and accordingly Americans have been fed an official 'story' of WWII that deliberately minimized the eastern front. Same propaganda is going on now with Crimea. It never ends.
Our atomic bombs DID end the war. But the end was coming without the atomic bomb. Soviet generalship and soldiering was first class, without doubt.
I hope you're correct. My father fought in the Pacific, so I would like nothing more than to agree with you. I grew up in the 1960's and wasn't even aware of any other factors in Japan's decision until I was in college. College was in smack in the middle of the Cold War (late 70's), and at that time neither the use of the a-bombs or their effect on the outcome of the war were even questioned (as they are today). So yes, I'd like to know for certain the a-bombs were what compelled Hirohito to break the deadlock and agree to the terms of Potsdam (or something near Potsdam). The only way of knowing that would be to have corroborated evidence (recorded or even a written record) of the conversations between Emperor Hirohito and the six members of his ruling council from August of 1945. I'm not disagreeing with you, and I'm not saying the proof doesn't exist, I'm only saying I am unaware of it. If you know of any such records or maybe a memoir of one of the six attendees, or even a well researched book on the topic I would be very appreciative if you could tell me about it. Thanks-
Maybe but remember, Monday morning is a great time to be a quarterback. ;)
*****
Roosevelt and Stalin were buddies. and yes Roosevelt was a fool involving anything Soviet.
The footage associated with the Ha Go (Type 95 Light Tank) is of the Type 89 medium tank, a hopelessly obsolete vehicle by 1941.
Nope , it is Type 95 . Type 89 has smaller road wheels and protective plates for suspensions . I-Go has a flat frontal armor while Ha-Go has a peak .
Thank you for uploading this fantastic series my friend. I had watched this programme repeatedly for sating my inner amateur historian, but with the awful direction of the majority of the documentary channels, I was worried that this may have gone. Again thank you 😃
Oh and that music @14:00, chills every time
You picked a competent , truthful , realistic channel that these , by fantasy only , PTO connoisseurs will see how the Imperialistic / Fascist Japanese forces literally wilted under the collosal onslaught of the Stalins Soviet Union's artillery , armoured onslaught power . Something the Nazi- Germans endured for nearly 4 years .
Japan had no tanks as comparable to the Soviet Union's T34 with an upgraded 85 mm cannon that the Japanese had no experience with the mighty T34 , and the Kaytushkas rockets .
Dave Flitton made the best war documentaries ever.
Can you just imagine: one night, you go to sleep with no worries in your mind; the next morning, you wake up and the full might of the fucking RED ARMY is right in front of your eyes. DAYUM!!!
Stop having multiple orgasms Mr. Smith. It was about time they got their act together.
luke dawson wtf? He is just saying
Winston Smith, we lived in western europe every day with this threat during the cold war years, i grow up only 35km from the iron curtain
"...I need a bigger gun..."
Being in any army you should always have some worries or you're not doing your job, surprise attacks happen, wake up time to die.
🤔🤔 How come they didnt mention the capture of manchukuo's emperor Puyi? They mentioned Puyi but not his capture, his capture was a big deal. 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Because you can only fit so much into an hour long TV show and there will always be something that someone is unhappy was missed.
Very interesting. Thx for sharing this with us.
1:32:02 Looks exactly like Putin. Uhhhhhh maybe hes older then we think. Wahhhh conspiracy. hahaha
+Benjamin sandström, That he is.
Illuminati confirmed.
starts playing x files
maybe a relative father or grandfather maybe
It make sense if Putin was desendant of Soviet heroes.
after over 3 years of total war vs a competent german army, the red army knew how to fight effectivly , knew how to organice and supply a army.
its equipment was the best of the best and its men and officers where highly experienced.
the lightly armed garrisson army in manchuria was no match for them. the kind of mechanised, combined warfare the red army was exercising was way beyond the japanese grasp, skill, equipment and even imagination
Thats what happens when yoibdont fucking adapt to newer times
The Red Army fought before over 4 years against the German Wehrmacht. Inspecially the infantery had a very high fighting experience and ability.
Wow! What a great documentary on a great war.
Two great strategic diplomatic mistakes by the WWII Allies: Stalin goading America & Britain to open a front in France, depriving the USSR of the opportunity to conquer all of Europe, and Roosevelt/Truman goading Stalin into invading Manchuria thereby arming Mao and ultimately turning most of China and half of Korea communist, and then using the atomic bomb just ahead of the agreed deadline, making the invasion easy for Stalin.
The forgotten war but very important in world history
What the bullshit? Who, where and how forgot our glorious victory in Manjuria?? And the day of the victory over Japan is an official holyday in Russia.
Not by the Chinese, actually everybody knows the USSR's contribution in liberating NE China.
Blessings from China!
tzarnikolov Great words!
I had read that the battle hardened Russian troops mowed over the Japanese forces like they weren't even there. The Japanese only had light tanks where the Russians had the incredible T-34.
It wasn't quite that simple. Remember, battle isn't about a weapons system. It's about everything from the terrain to the nation's economy and everything in-between.
The US propaganda film about the Japanese military school is fascinating and has some very subtle wording. Bowing to the emperor becomes "bending their backs" to him. I think that one might easily have made a nearly identical one using US military prep schools and West Point.
Yes, Hitler was a good Christian (whatever that means), that is why he murdered 27 million Christian Slavs. Do you even listen to what you say? Communism exported from "Christian Europe" to Russia in the early 1900s, like many vile ideologies. It did not come from the Russian empire or any Eastern nation.
The US wanted to get rid of something which has no future and at odds with human nature, aka Nazism, then later Communism will fizzle out. Everyone knew that Communism will not work, even the Soviets themselves.
The book: The Lords of Discipline by Pat Conroy should dispel any notions the Japanese were in some way "worse" than any other country. The Citadel resisted integration as long as legally possible. Author Pat Conroy writes that his fellow plebs and cadets hated him as much and perhaps worse than the Human Being w/ darker pigmentation that had arrived as a student because Pat Conroy didn't have a problem w/ a Black Man being accepted as a student. Later in life Conroy who had graduated from The Citadel supported the acceptance of a female student at the military school... Conroy was threatened with letters and phone calls and in restaurants and other public places. The author never backed down. He wrote in one of his books... (perhaps it was My Losing Season)... "I can say what I want... I wear the ring". Referencing his graduation ring from The Citadel. A young Pat Conroy who would go on to write The Great Santini had taken everything officers, professors, coaches, fellow students at The Citadel could throw at him and emerged victorious. The United States of America claimed a great victory for Human Beings for Freedom and Democracy after WWII meanwhile it would be decades before all American citizens were Equal in the Eyes of the Law and even then and at times now that freedom is only on paper not in the actions of the law. Had they been the "Greatest Generation" every citizen in the United States of America would have been allowed to join the military in any branch or type of service they wished. A "Greatest Generation" would have done away with segregation.
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ALWAYS XCLNT JOB VASILE!!! THANX FOR INCREASING MY KNOWLEDGE! !!!
Never seen this before.Thanks!
10:02 China has been an aggressor nation plenty of times before it invaded Korea in 1950, I do have to say that they fought themselves much ore often than other nations.
Very true.
Moral of the story: don't mess with mother Russia!
Amazing documentary.
Thank you very much indeed!
This is the biggest military defeat in Japanese history right? so why is it forgotten
Because it has been overshadowed by the deployment of nuclear weapons.
Because the war in Europe had ended and the us anglo forces etc everbody else had finally realized how ruthless and territory grabbing Stalin was.
zenoist2 If they realized how land hungry Stalin was then why did they let him do it? Not just invading Manchukuo, but to take the Sakhalin and Kuril Islands.
For the same reasons we heared nothigh of China-Japans war 1937-1945.
It is only remembered what the victorious considers important. Or even "true". The more we venture into the media age, the more distorted information becomes. .....Ministry of Truth (1984), wasn't it?
I did not hear of this until now. Thanks for covering this part of the war. Morbidly ineresting I know, but history calls from the grave and teaches us. Hopefully for the better.
Yes, Hitler was a good Christian (whatever that means), that is why he murdered 27 million Christian Slavs. Do you even listen to what you say? Communism exported from "Christian Europe" to Russia in the early 1900s, like many vile ideologies. It did not come from the Russian empire or any Eastern nation.
The US wanted to get rid of something which has no future and at odds with human nature, aka Nazism, then later Communism will fizzle out. Everyone knew that Communism will not work, even the Soviets themselves.
A great series from when the history channel was about history
This is the one campaign many people have forgotten about today
An exceptional documentary.
Can you believe how the Red Army soldiers in German felt like when they knew they are going to fight another war in Manchuria
compared to Germany it will be an easy walk
@@gibbon8827 abuot easy walk please tell it to american veterans who fighted in pacific iclands
@@KLblk88 japanese have good fleet, but army bad, thank usa for destroy japanese navy
@@gibbon8827 ok ok. Tell it to army veterans who fight many years against that bad japan army
@@KLblk88 they fight in islands,
not many people defended the islands.
and in general your arguments, and I can give, ok ok, say this to veterans who fought with 4,200,000 German soldiers at the very peak of Germany’s power
Battle of Manchuria was also the greatest Soviet victory in the end of WW2 beside the Battle of Stalingrad and The Battle of Kursk in the U.S.S.R. in 1943. Afterwards Soviet armies defeated Japanese armies in Korea in 1945 and the U.S.S.R. spread communism in East Asia.
foarte bine dnl. Iuga le tot reiau la vazut de ani. mersi
Never let your Junior Field Officers start wars.
On 1:05:40 is one of the best shots I´ve ever seen. I wonder why it is never used in compilations.
It is a fascinating and completely (at least here in the US) forgotten campaign. However, as far as a battle, the Japanese were at such an unbelievable disadvantage, anything but a huge, swift, and complete Soviet victory could not be expected. (The Soviets were fighting with arguably the best tank in the world, the T-34/85 with its high velocity 85 mm cannon. The Japanese were fighting with the 'toy tank' and its low velocity 45 mm cannon. The Russian troops were, for the most part, seasoned combat vets who had fought against the Germans, the best army in the world before their defeat. The Japanese troops in Manchuria were mostly second line troops who had not seen combat or had not seen combat since the late 1930s.) The fact that 8,000 Russian soldiers died in those last days of the war show the tenacity and bravery of the Japanese soldier. Fascinating campaign!
I've been looking for this and the Pacific war on DVD from this series. I see they did this one but what about from Pearl Harbor to Okinawa?
I wish I had time to go through all of the comments to see if someone else noted this - but the narration is *not* by Jonathan Booth. It is by the late, great Tim Piggott-Smith, still most famously known for his starring role in the ITV miniseries "The Jewel in the Crown". If you could correct that, it seems only fair that he get credited properly for his work on this series.
They mention 5,500 soviet tanks at least twenty times.
We get it.
The Rooskies used the invasion to strengthen Mao.
@ Most forces caused massive civilian deaths. What's your point?
@ Are you fucking kidding me? The civilian deaths by the US is in the hundreds of thousands.
The civilian deaths through the whole war was in the MILLIONS.
"US caused all civilian death"
Uh, no it fucking didn't. The US did not kill 20 million Soviet civilians and 20 million Chinese civilians.
"that its very bad to burn women and children in nuclear fire.I understand you disagree,no problem"
Oh boy, it's the master of the obvious statement. You know what's also bad? Burning civilians to death, blowing them to pieces, forcing them to endure starvation, killing their families, enslaving them and torturing them. Because guess what most armies in the war were involved in?
Trying to throw in some idiotic moral argument against the US in a war that had virtual no moral compass is the epitome of retardation. Take your garbage argument to someone who buys it.
No wonder you have such a dumb name- you know almost absolutely nothing and blow what little you do know out of proportion.
@@seen203 USA nuked Japanese civilians. Japanese soldiers murdered and raped civilians. I condemn both of these acts, not to be anti-American or anti-Japanese, but simply because I think it is wrong to do these horrible things.
@@leeham6230 The bombs ended the war earlier, as evidenced by the surrender declaration. An invasion of Japan was prevented and probably millions saved.
Keep in mind, the Japanese were ALSO still in China and throughout southeast Asia, committing atrocities. So drop the crocodile tears.
Their citizens were supporting the war effort and KNEW what their soldiers were doing because alot of them were recent colonists of occupied territory. If the Japanese didn't want something to happen to their citizens then maybe they should have picked a fight with someone else.
Actually Stalin sent a lot more aid to Chiang, possibly because he trusted Mao even less than everyone else. Stalin may have given a bunch of captured Japanese stuff to Mao, but not a lot of actual Russian stuff until Korea. And Stalin carted away Manchuria and North Korea of every bit of Japanese technology before turning things over to the natives, including the Japanese nuclear program--yes, they had one.
I'm in San Diego, and I SECOND Johns suggestion of nuking Los Angeles! Not a big one, just big enough. We're still semi friendly down here. And could it be a Neutron bomb, so we can have free motorcycles from the empty mc shops that would be left?
19:25 Basically what being in the program is like
I've never understood why the Allies allowed the Soviet Union to enter Manchuria and Korea. It was so close to the end of the war and knowing that they had atomic weapons which would almost inevitably cause Japan to surrender. Allowing the Soviets into this region was a huge mistake for both the US and Britain. Maybe not as much with Britain but for the US it caused massive problems.
@The Spicy Russian that is a stupid fucking reply. First off the Americans took so long to beat the Japanese because they had to go from Island to Island to get it done. You also did need our permission and it was given for The Manchurian campaign. You had a pretty good army in world war II but you were fighting against one force and in One direction while the Americans not only fought the Nazis but had to fight the empire of Japan. In 1945 or today the Russian army would get its ass demolished by the United States army. It wouldn't have been closed back then and now it would just be a joke.
@The Spicy Russian the bomb against Japan was to stop millions of people from getting killed. Any Nation with the capability to have done that would have done that. You want to talk about a nation that likes to kill civilians. If you're a Russian then you should know all about your government killing millions of its own civilians. Hell it's still kills its own civilians in other countries by poisoning them. You're a second world nation and everybody knows that. Your women leave the country because they don't want to marry alcoholic nobodies. Face facts idiot.
@The Spicy Russian another thing that I forgot about because your arguments are the arguments of somebody with a feeble mind who probably has to have a guardian feed them with an oversized spoon. I think it's funny that you want to talk about how are leaving Afghanistan didn't go very well but what about you guys in Afghanistan. You actually lost. You got your ass kicked by a bunch of guys who's only good weapon was rocket launchers for taking down Russian helicopters. By the way because you're such an asshole I'm very glad that we provided them that weapon to knock you guys out of Afghanistan also you want to talk about how well you defeated the Japanese in Manchuria which I did agree you did a very good job of that but it was a already defeated Japanese army who were only fighting for pride and you overwhelmed them by four or five to one. The Japanese strength in world war II was not its army which we did defeat by the way but it was its Navy which we also defeated. It's funny I don't remember anybody ever mentioning the Soviet navy. I do remember in the Russo Japanese war how they destroyed all of your ships and also defeated you when I was just one-on-one. You're funniest statement is a denial that Stalin killed millions of his own people when Soviet history says otherwise. But I'm guessing you don't read your own history or maybe you follow the whatever Putin says is what goes history. The arguments you made in our rather flagrant discussion we're all the arguments that would be made by some kid and Middle School. Perhaps I'm being too mean and you are just a child in middle school and if that's the case then I apologize
@The Spicy Russian so all the millions that died before the war because of the collectivization of the farms didn't really die? Or the fact that you were getting your ass kicked by the Germans at the beginning of Barbarossa because your hero Stalin had murdered all of his best generals because of his fear of a coup. Read your own history read what crucial and others have said about Stalin and then read your modern historians and what they've said about Russian history under that monster. Okay I shouldn't say read because I'm pretty sure you can't read so get somebody to read it to you or maybe you can do books on tape.
@The Spicy Russian There was no instance in world war II where the Soviets in Japanese fought together against war criminal American soldiers who were killing civilians. Where the fuck did you get that from? I'm guessing you just made that up but perhaps you've got some book on tape that you've heard that revises Russian history. I'm guessing Putin wrote it???
While I do agree the US military played a major role in defeating Japan and depleting Japans navy and air power, the contribution from other allies such as the Soviet Union(not Russia) and the armies of various Chinese warlords are often forgotten. I must also question some of the propaganda films of WW2 produced by the American military , which are used extensively thorough this documentary.
Red Army kicking ass and taking names.
01:28:48 Pliev cavalry corps and Mongolians? You would not have better than that in 2000 years. No joke. They stood for me in Novgorod in 1300smth. Germans did not complain of 800m range of their still arrows.