How would terran win that game tho, i so wish there was a better way for zerg to steal other races, but its just so slow that your already dead by the time its starts
For a 1 off game that would be neat. But for a to GM games the video would be too long imo Also only viable vs toss, I think you need like 6-8 neurals for scv to finish a cc 😅
He was playing greedier and more aggressive the 2nd game but his bases kept dying so it wasn't worth it, really looked like he didn't want to get in that mass PF late game again.
I saw this in my recommended. Posted 1 hour ago, titled: "I Built 20 Planetary Fortresses..." I said out oud, "F***king uThermal." 🤣 Thumbs up for your awesome reputation!
Anyone else get the vibe that Turtle knew his opponent was doing some weird challenge, and so for the rematch decided to play in a way that would keep it interesting rather than just win using the exact same strat? if so, good on you Turtle, games are best when it's challenging for all involved.
@@TysonJensen”dark Templar now have energy and cloak is an active ability. Whenever a dark Templar is near your worker, your adjutant says ‘hey little guy, there’s a dark Templar in your base! It’s ok, they only deal 39 damage, but next time maybe build some detection!”
Why they keep nerfing and buffing stuff? This game is 14 years old already and is not finished yet? I don't think they did this in Star craft1. It was sold on a CD and it was finished and not changed.
Thermy! I love the dedication to Planetaries, missile turrets, and auto turrets to do the shooting, so I'm very sad that (I think) you forgot Hi-Sec Auto Tracking in game 1. Still a banger!
"We need to nerf widow mines the splash damage is too punishing" *Meanwhile, the viper that can wipe out near infinite numbers of ravens in a single cast*
out of the 4 units zerg has that can attack air with an auto attack, 3 of them lose to mass raven. only viper can deal with mass ravens(but arnt able to directly attack ravens themselves).
I have a great idea for someone as much talented as Uthermal - Zerg turtle style to grandmaster. Nobody playing turtle Zerg because they don't have strong defence. But Utha, I sure that u can. Mb the only one who can.
Great game one, I think if you were doing sim city, you could hold against the Ultralisk. It's tough tho, to do a perfect sim city in a very chaotic game.
18:50 "i cant believe his fighting with that". Bro literally dont know how to break through and tryining everything that he have in the arsenal XD But... Good luck with counter that! uThermal, as a zerg.... Any thoughts, what's Your weakness to brake through THAT terran gameplay? :D
Game 1 - in no way trying to slight you because **** - but you did seem to forget about the CC at top left. At one point at least, you had energy for a mule hammer and dropped at a pretty low base... I just wonder if you could've done a desperation mule hammer sometime when the army was occupied. I also wonder if it could ever be effective to have a bunch of excess orbital energy and just drop on the opponent's patches, even though the mules likely die? Depriving them of late game resources? I'm sure that's a terrible idea, but you are the king of making terrible ideas work, so I'll throw it out there anyway. Love what you do, cheers.
11:30: It was going alright... until the decision to fly directly into Spores and Vipers... I really wish you'd allow yourself to make a few of each unit; be less strict and just have 1-2 units be the vast bulk of the army. A few Ghosts would have easily won that 1st game. Getting hard-countered and losing an obviously winnable game, due to being stubborn, is a bit frustrating to watch. Managed it in the rematch regardless! WP.
Being in a zerg match with your composition. The drone attacks, imo are a mute rss investment, since 50 drones... is only like 2500 minerals... not a significant impact when zerg has a certian volume of hatcheries, better punishment against zerg is suppy, but those are beefy, I think yo uwould of won the game if you sought out destroying hive, and all his tech buidlings meaning you effect the means of creation, so he can mine but has to wait for the buidling.. if you cut of hive tech and its buildings... its 71 seconds + 71 seconds + whatever the building is to get it.. it slike you have it unlocked forever... so this may have forced a change in the composition ,and ingst his Ultras.. forcing more hydras or something ,but my motivation would be trying to keep him on Spawning pool tech.. I don't think the zerg lost, I think he just ran out of time, lol and probably didnt' want the game to go for another 20 minutes... he was out mining and he can always go defensive and use corruptors hydras and other units... but I think corruptors are the good coutner since you can just pee on planetaries... but... meh. Nonetheless a win is a win I guess... you can always start up again... yeah... that zerg... cutting off the head of teh tech tree and air isa weakness of zerg... Ultras were great, but I would of went mass coruptors... since yo ucan pee on buildings, and wipe out the ravens.. quickly.. toss in some infestors and vipers... brood lords do work ,but you need ot do some math, 5 brood lords do nothing ,but do a mental scv count, and building tiem of a cc.. 71 seconds / 20.. Takes about 3.5 seconds repairs building at 1500 hp divide against by 3.5.. so repairing the planetary at a rate of 425 hit points a second... so... 5 broods the dps will not work...15 brood lords... is getting closer as the broodlings owuld end up attacking the scvs simply becuase they can't attack the planetary... pretty funny game,
"turrent is not good agains 10 mutas" yeah, ONE TURRET, build 3 then, maybe 5 if he is heavy on mutas... space them a little around the minerals and base
I kinda still think broodlords might of worked...in the longest shittest game of sc2 ever played. Just sit back dont let your ravens kill you, and ever so slowly drain your money till you cant repair any more.
Awesome episode, uThermal! Please remember to read the Bible, repent and obey Jesus (Truth, our Creator), because we all die and we will all be judged by Jesus. Would be awesome to see you in Heaven. You're a blessing!
Seeing this comment on the most free thinking sc2 creator just really tickles my pickle. This guy probably plays 3 rax reaper before he goes to church and begs for forgiveness
bro controlled the map with planetaries like they are creep tumor 💀
That is his Zerg side playing terran
New series?
I think he's practicing his creep spread for when he plays more zerg
Creep fortress. The name might need some more time in the oven
@@martinprince8253Planetary tumor.
Finally, a type to creep that uThermal can spread consistently
😄
😂
Start as a zerg, steal a worker with infestor and beat your opponent with his own race
Planetary domination but as zerg
How would terran win that game tho, i so wish there was a better way for zerg to steal other races, but its just so slow that your already dead by the time its starts
@Alex-d3l9b We just need to elaborate on starting conditions which is barely enough to survive, that's part of the challenge, i think
For a 1 off game that would be neat.
But for a to GM games the video would be too long imo
Also only viable vs toss, I think you need like 6-8 neurals for scv to finish a cc 😅
@@jaguh9069 ruclips.net/video/zWfUA66FlKQ/видео.html
I think that was a frustration gg. He could have played that and maybe even won but he already hated his life playing it again.
He was playing greedier and more aggressive the 2nd game but his bases kept dying so it wasn't worth it, really looked like he didn't want to get in that mass PF late game again.
Imagine "Nerf to Grandmaster" where you can only use units that were recently nerfed. You could even use the name NerfOrNothin 😂
Ahhh yes, a tale as old as time: The tortoise and the turtle.
I saw this in my recommended.
Posted 1 hour ago, titled: "I Built 20 Planetary Fortresses..."
I said out oud, "F***king uThermal." 🤣
Thumbs up for your awesome reputation!
Clutch on that last game. Incredible war of attrition and u know UThermal is not giving up on himself. Amazing video
Anyone else get the vibe that Turtle knew his opponent was doing some weird challenge, and so for the rematch decided to play in a way that would keep it interesting rather than just win using the exact same strat? if so, good on you Turtle, games are best when it's challenging for all involved.
I think uThermal is the reason why PF-s are nerfed
Same with ravens earlier...
Same with ghosts...
Window mines...
😢😢😢
@@Szokynyovics So... what units do you hate? Get uThermal to do an "only dark templar to GM" and they'll probably make the DT visible or something. 😆
@@TysonJensen”dark Templar now have energy and cloak is an active ability. Whenever a dark Templar is near your worker, your adjutant says ‘hey little guy, there’s a dark Templar in your base! It’s ok, they only deal 39 damage, but next time maybe build some detection!”
Why they keep nerfing and buffing stuff? This game is 14 years old already and is not finished yet? I don't think they did this in Star craft1. It was sold on a CD and it was finished and not changed.
@@benq994Sc2 is a live service game. They update the balance to keep it interesting and change things people complain about
A thing I never even imagined hearing in my life: "I'll just make 5 reactored factories right now, because why not". Insane how good this is
I need more planetary rushes
Nerfed :(
I just love the attitude of you when you loose a game.
Thermy! I love the dedication to Planetaries, missile turrets, and auto turrets to do the shooting, so I'm very sad that (I think) you forgot Hi-Sec Auto Tracking in game 1. Still a banger!
He has a planetary for his planetary for his planetary!
Yo dawg I heard you like planetary...
*Moar planetary PER PLANETARY*
Bro didn't just cooked the zerg he deepfried, baked,and stirfyed the zerg
Thank you Marc. This is by far my favorite challenge to watch. Nothing is more epic than ravens cheese
"We need to nerf widow mines the splash damage is too punishing"
*Meanwhile, the viper that can wipe out near infinite numbers of ravens in a single cast*
out of the 4 units zerg has that can attack air with an auto attack, 3 of them lose to mass raven. only viper can deal with mass ravens(but arnt able to directly attack ravens themselves).
You're the absolute tsar of cheese. Love you man!
most uThermal video title imagineable
"Ma, I want to play Zerg!"
"Son, we have Zerg at home, go and spread your creeps"
Zerg at home:
BTW this is basically "Ketroc Style". He used to do this kind of build a LOT till they majorly changed Ravens.
You are so efficient at this game plan that it’s an actual style of play at this point holy moly
Great stream - i really like your approach to content - playing and commentating
50:44 fireworks
A challenge within a challenge. This guy's nuts!
Bro kept talking about making too many planetaries in the first game, sees title of video, where are you going with this Mark? I can't wait...
uThermal is wild 🤣
game 1 was a banger i didnt even think there would be a 2nd
YOU ARE AWESOME
I have a question, i mean not that it would have changed anything, but i still want to know: do blinding clouds work against pf?
I honestly forgot that this game gets balance changes still
the one thing I can take is, that there is no (Ladder) place safe from cheese :D
I have a great idea for someone as much talented as Uthermal - Zerg turtle style to grandmaster. Nobody playing turtle Zerg because they don't have strong defence. But Utha, I sure that u can. Mb the only one who can.
Great game one, I think if you were doing sim city, you could hold against the Ultralisk. It's tough tho, to do a perfect sim city in a very chaotic game.
TIL ultra is the best counter to ravens.
Let s make a rush - planetary rush
Heart of the Swarm opening cutscene but the terrans are winning.
when did turtle say that thing in the thumbnail?
i wonder how protoss spellcasters to gm would go with the new energy ability coming up
There used to were great StarCraft player with same nickname. Amazing coincidence😂
wait, I think missed Turtles chat message. does someone have a timestamp? what an awesome couple of games
I had a guy beat me on brood wars with only scvs. Though it’s impressive now, but when it happend I never raged so hard
GGs!!
I've always wanted you to do a total game of only PF
18:50 "i cant believe his fighting with that".
Bro literally dont know how to break through and tryining everything that he have in the arsenal XD
But... Good luck with counter that!
uThermal, as a zerg.... Any thoughts, what's Your weakness to brake through THAT terran gameplay? :D
i love your vid, thanks a lot!🥰
Game 1 - in no way trying to slight you because **** - but you did seem to forget about the CC at top left. At one point at least, you had energy for a mule hammer and dropped at a pretty low base... I just wonder if you could've done a desperation mule hammer sometime when the army was occupied. I also wonder if it could ever be effective to have a bunch of excess orbital energy and just drop on the opponent's patches, even though the mules likely die? Depriving them of late game resources? I'm sure that's a terrible idea, but you are the king of making terrible ideas work, so I'll throw it out there anyway. Love what you do, cheers.
Not everyone forgets specific numbers^^GGs
22:25 raven flower
Why it that GM zerg not going for vipers ? Some clouds / some raven. Even 1 / 2 would do a lot
Before watching, I wonder how Turtle plays? Is he going to live live up to his name?
What's your apm?
What is this clowb doing? you have vipers and don't knkw how to use them?
Thanks for the video :)
Marc why do you have a better pf spread than your creep spread as Zerg ??
That's a really good question lol
What a double banger there...
I miss the old seeker missle
planetary/missile turrets to GM??? :D
Let Him Cook!!!
why not siege tansk against the ultralisks
We can do a swarm host challenge now?
What's so special about this? This IS the meta strategy as Terran to beat GM level Zergs :>
Bangin' ...
without tanks the pf doesn't hard counter all zerg ground units.
Wait a second... this isn't beating grandmasters with stupid stuff...
Planetary tumors 💀
what is your goal with getting so often top 100? do you want to keep all 100 first places for yourself? XD
great games
Thats a typical game from a terran in silver
At -50x speed
U burnt Turtle out in game 2 42:45, 43:10
the game of 2 turtles
i love the videos and the challenges you do, here's my challenge to you can coach a noob?
My favorite cheese by far!
Awesome episode, uThermal! Please remember to continue following the teaching of Lucifer and ignore that Jesus freak in the other comment.
11:30: It was going alright... until the decision to fly directly into Spores and Vipers...
I really wish you'd allow yourself to make a few of each unit; be less strict and just have 1-2 units be the vast bulk of the army. A few Ghosts would have easily won that 1st game. Getting hard-countered and losing an obviously winnable game, due to being stubborn, is a bit frustrating to watch.
Managed it in the rematch regardless! WP.
uThermal could win these games with one hand tied behind his back, he's an ex-pro player. The artificial restrictions are the point.
Being in a zerg match with your composition. The drone attacks, imo are a mute rss investment, since 50 drones... is only like 2500 minerals... not a significant impact when zerg has a certian volume of hatcheries, better punishment against zerg is suppy, but those are beefy, I think yo uwould of won the game if you sought out destroying hive, and all his tech buidlings meaning you effect the means of creation, so he can mine but has to wait for the buidling.. if you cut of hive tech and its buildings... its 71 seconds + 71 seconds + whatever the building is to get it.. it slike you have it unlocked forever... so this may have forced a change in the composition ,and ingst his Ultras.. forcing more hydras or something ,but my motivation would be trying to keep him on Spawning pool tech..
I don't think the zerg lost, I think he just ran out of time, lol and probably didnt' want the game to go for another 20 minutes... he was out mining and he can always go defensive and use corruptors hydras and other units... but I think corruptors are the good coutner since you can just pee on planetaries... but... meh.
Nonetheless a win is a win I guess... you can always start up again... yeah... that zerg... cutting off the head of teh tech tree and air isa weakness of zerg... Ultras were great, but I would of went mass coruptors... since yo ucan pee on buildings, and wipe out the ravens.. quickly.. toss in some infestors and vipers... brood lords do work ,but you need ot do some math, 5 brood lords do nothing ,but do a mental scv count, and building tiem of a cc.. 71 seconds / 20.. Takes about 3.5 seconds repairs building at 1500 hp divide against by 3.5.. so repairing the planetary at a rate of 425 hit points a second... so... 5 broods the dps will not work...15 brood lords... is getting closer as the broodlings owuld end up attacking the scvs simply becuase they can't attack the planetary... pretty funny game,
Let's go!
"turrent is not good agains 10 mutas" yeah, ONE TURRET, build 3 then, maybe 5 if he is heavy on mutas... space them a little around the minerals and base
I think he left becasue he was just tired of this sh**. GG!
I kinda still think broodlords might of worked...in the longest shittest game of sc2 ever played. Just sit back dont let your ravens kill you, and ever so slowly drain your money till you cant repair any more.
Cool!!!
RAAAAAAAH
why...
yooo
Brood lords are the worst unit
Dam 9 mins ago, iam early, a record for me
Trump 2024
Do you think you could start calling your opponent "they" when you don't know who they are? It is kind of weird how you call everyone a guy by default
lmao
Very fastidious play style... :)
Awesome episode, uThermal! Please remember to read the Bible, repent and obey Jesus (Truth, our Creator), because we all die and we will all be judged by Jesus. Would be awesome to see you in Heaven. You're a blessing!
uThermal been real quiet since you asked him to repent and obey Jesus.
@@AlbieTheSeagull That’s cause he is following the instructions 😅
Seeing this comment on the most free thinking sc2 creator just really tickles my pickle. This guy probably plays 3 rax reaper before he goes to church and begs for forgiveness