Hanziyu: The (cursed) Language of Characters
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- My entry into Agma Schwa's Cursed Conlang Circus.
This is my first published video, hope people enjoy!
Apologies for any mistakes in historical accuracy or any intricacies of any of the languages. I did my best to research but I'm sure someone with more experience will catch cracks in the video.
Github link: github.com/eleanormally/hanziyu
Corrections:
1. 爱 does not break down into a 心. This was from the traditional characters, which itself doesn't break down into 友.
2. 汉子 should be 汉字。Can thank the pinyin keyboard suggesting the wrong one to me every time for that.
A possible translation for 汉子语 woud be "chad lang" instead of 汉字语(hanzi lang)
if you don't have this pinned, I honestly can't tell if it's intentional or mistake XD
汉子=man
汉字=character
😁
@@kierahicks9314 Perhaps she didn't make a mistake.
She just meant to create a language that only real brave men (汉子) are able to speak. 🤔
Try to speak in a BRAVER version? You should try 漢子語 instead of 汉子语. 🤣
The 2nd thing happens to everyone eventually 😂 we can all relate
I feel like this is extra cursed because of how logical it all is. Every step makes a completely absurd amount of sense and yet only makes things worse
gladly we the system she introduced in the video is rarely used in teaching and using the language. We seldom remember how the caracter should be read by it's so called radiant
this is taking "a picture is worth a thousand words" completely seriously and then deciding to speak emoji
a language where you speak the hexadecimal colour value of every pixel in a 1080p still image
or animate it
Learning actual Mandarin Chinese has never seemed so easy!
It would be easy enough if it had an accurate romanization that allows you to see how it is supposed to be pronounced, but the system that is widely used just makes it more difficult...
@@Tasorius I don't quite get that. Why are the several Pīnyīn inaccurate for formally speaking their respective dialect? I realize that adding ш, ж & ч equivalents into Latin or vice-versa q, ü/v & x (maybe even ŋ) into Cyrillic (preferably not with needless diacritics as they're mainly used for vowel tones) could help, but otherwise the system seems perfect.
How would any phonetic writing system ever satisfy any relevant dialect? I guess, the CPC just wants to eradicate them slowly, which solves this problem.
@@Tasorius If we are talking about accurate romanization, english should be the first language to be changed lol.
@@iandavidvillaloboswong5180 Pinyin is inconsistent within itself. Sometimes you clearly hear a diphthong in Mandarin, but there is only one vowel written with pinyin, and sometimes it's a completely different vowel sound but it is written as the same vowel in pinyin. It just adds an extra level of difficulty to an already very difficult language.
@@Tasoriuscan you provide some examples? As a chinese maybe I'm just too used to the system but I can't really think of such a case.
Incredible. Not only did you come up with an unbelievably cursed conlang, you also wrote lyrics for Vivaldi's Winter. Mad respect
It’s a hanziyu version of the opening from the bee movie lmao
@@tony757 I'm pretty sure that it was just the Chinese version of the opening pronounced in Hanziyu. I did not observe the grammar changes (i.e. killing compound words) mentioned at 10:10.
@@tony757 I know, the tonemes just went really well with the background music, as if the text were lyrics
@@randinttrue
@@tony757 0_0 seriously??
As someone who speaks Mandarin, Hokkien and Cantonese regularly I feel like I'm listening to someone speaking Thai, Korean and Cantonese all at once
as someone who speaks mandarin, cantonese, and taishanese, you're not wrong (tho i'd replace korean with hmong)
i think Vietnam too..XD
Bro essentially created Hyperasian
@@clu691as someone who speaks Thai and Hmong, I don't even know what I listened to. I have better chances understand Mandarin than this😅
@@ВладиславФесенко-к1мthis should be the pan-asian auxlang
For anyone that didn’t notice, the conlang had the background music of “Winter” by Vivaldi, and is the bee movie script
All the cursed conlang circus entries use the opening lines of the bee movie as examples.
@@RedHair651 i know, it’s in Chinese so i pointed it out
Thanks for confirming. I figured it was the bee movie, but couldn't confirm
@@NoOne-yv2eishi Shi Shi Shi shi
as a native chinese speaker... i must say i am very impressed with how unnecessarily long all the words are 😭
啊啊啊啊20年了，现在我也经常不记得一些字怎么写😢
as a cantonese native im simultaneously impressed, confused, impressed again, and intimidated. great job, i'm bewildered!
saying hello has never sounded so much like a whole essay
Lol
cantonese nuts lmao gottem
Who hurt you? Did the grammar hurt you? 10/10 cursedness. I'm sending this to my Chinese speaking friends.
Why be happy when you can 𝙨𝙪𝙛𝙛𝙚𝙧?
as a chinese person, 操
Grammar hurt us all.
A single food would defeat this cursed language. 𰻝𰻝面, as showed in the video, a character with the most strokes in the "common" character list in Simplified Chinese.
(You'll need a font that at least supports Unicode 13.0 to correctly display this character)
@@EL_File4138I see this word used in every videos introducing Hanzi languages. As a native Mandarin and Hokkien speaker, may I humbly ask you, *how the fuck do I pronounce this word in my mother tongue?*
I don't need no Hanziyu to defeat myself in understanding Hanzi.
I have opened Pandora's box and I now reap the consequences
😂😂😂
Wasn't it a vase, nguh?
@@StockhausenScoresmore of a clay jar
Public Health Warning:
If you are a Chinese speaker, watching this video may cause auditory discomfort, existential crisis, degraded language function, loss of sanity, and severe EMOTIONAL DAMAGE. Viewer discretion advised.
-- People's Health Comitte (Probably)
Wow! Thank you for solving the problem of mandarin speakers knowing how to speak a word, but not knowing how to write it by making it impossible to speak a word without knowing how it's written
This comment is underrated
This is a perfectly logical system and I see absolutely no problem with this whatsoever. Thank you Eleanor for fixing Chinese.
As a native Mandarin speaker, this is pain 🥲
💀
I feel your pain as a native Cantonese speaker 😢
yeah... wait hi kume
@@joshuachan6317 Actually, I'm planning to learn Cantonese!
I'm learning mandarin as an 8th language and this is more cursed than Kanji...
THIS is what a true cursed conlang is, if this doesnt win (or whatever the competition is for) then i give up
Poliespo is the true cursed conlang.
@@abxy_real_official_since2020 Nah, Toki Pona is the true cursed conlang... However, I think one could make an even more cursed conlang pretty easily.
Like a conlang with a very very very strict word order, but extremely complex writing system, that makes it hard to know what word goes where and with a very limited phonetic inventory.
I mean, the world is ones oyster, one could have a word that begins in the previous sentence, and ends in the next, you could change reading direction at random... there's so many actually ways to make a language cursed beyond belief.
@@livedandletdieextremely complex writing system with extremely strict word order, with words bridging from the previous sentence to the current? By god, I think that's just blockchain as a language
Thandian
@@livedandletdie frameshifting conlang
The classical linguistics technique of lying is so slept on and I’m so glad you brought it up
I have a PhD in Chinese phonology, and this makes perfect sense. Beautiful
Is that a joke?
Not at all; every rule has a sound phonological or phonetic explanation, except in the case of exceptions, which are expected in natural language
I'm just imagining how extra confusing this would be to a Japanese speaker.
the kanas read with Hanziyu as well 😭😭
It was 😂 I tried to read the sentences at the end (I’ve been learning Chinese for 2 weeks now and know like 4 grammar points in total now lol) and I had no idea what I was reading it was so bad omg
@@sponge1234ifyplease don’t
1:35 One cool thing is that even though 又 means again, the character original represents the right hand, and the character 友 meaning friend, is actually 又+ 又, so hand in hand.
aww :)
7:30 “that was an example of a classic linguistics technique called lying” FACTS
petition to make eleanormally say the entire bee movie script in hanziyu
So you basically made a horrible mix of Ithkuil and Kay(f)bop(t)
Kay(f)bop(t) is still my favourite Hanson album.
@@jamesderiven1843 I think you mean MMMBop... XD
Yes. That was the joke.
With the quite important difference that Ithkuil was made for utmost briefness (the speech should be formed & arrive immaculately - which almost any human is incapable of), while here the quite stringent rule of one syllable per character gets replaced by "Hope your characters don't have lots of strokes, otherwise you'll suffer one.".
This basically introduces all the trouble of by-heart calligraphy into speech.
Though I must admit, I understand how Ithkuil is supposed to work, but not Kay(f)bop(t).
Ithkuil and Kay(f)bop(t) are actually really similar, they're both highly agglutinative, Kay(f)bop(t) just shows incrediblly precise but redundant info.
This was beautiful. I loved how it's basically like looking at a different language's usage of the Latin script and saying, "It probably sounds like this," but worse (read better).
It would be very funny to look at the Latin alphabet as if it were describing mouth positions like Hangul does and try reading it lol
As an aside, my favourite case of looking at a different language's usage of the Latin script and saying "it probably sounds like this," is Cherokee script.
As a Chinese, you successfully made me unable to speak my native language after watching this video. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!🤣.
me too 😂I even didn’t understand what was she said 😅
Why is it so complicated
every day i see a new conlinguistic barrier broken, and i shed tears of joy. what will conlinguists do next
When you said “they should’ve been speaking all languages write” I knew I was in for a wild ride
I love the chaotic energy radiated from this video all the way from the beginning to end
oh my gosh "strokeme" is such a beautiful word, I'm in love
The word seems so strokable :)
I adore the soundtrack, thank you for yoinking the music straight from my childhood
As someone who studied Kanji and the radicals, this is indeed cursed.
Hanziyu wins the cursed cIrcus, and the conlanglympics.
Good job! It is pain.
I'm crying. The music is fun and you keep cheerfully explaining this conlang, but I'm crying.
When you said the full name of the language, my eyes opened wide as I realized what was happening. God bless you for whatever comes next, and thank you for your repeated use of the ramen character. When I continue this video, I look forward to hearing you say it in 汉字语.
This feels like almost an exploration of a Gödel number for every character in Chinese characters. Love it.
I think you created a code for Chinese dissidents...
确实👍
The greatest thing is that any of the Chinese classics can be read directly in this language.
I got cancer from this, keep it up!
I bursted out laughing reading this!!! Omg!!!
As a lyingologist myself, I approve of this tonal inventory
“the four cardinal directions” i hope you will attend my funeral, this killed me
Ah kanji, the sole reason why I still feel like a toddler trying to read anything in japanese even after almost a decade of studying the language.
本当…(〒﹏〒)
this language is radical
what chinese sounds like to non chinese speakers:
As a Chinese college student, this video hurts my brain.
It's basically a phonetic language version of mandarin, just likes Korean.
I completely lost what you were saying about halfway through, I love it.
土 and 士 would sound the same in Hanziyu, as would 八 and 人, and 目 and 且.
They are different radicals though
I understood a good half, and that half terrifies me to my soul.
Great video!
This is actually really good, I enjoyed this video, great job, and good luck!
the most cursed part of this is that it actually works.
i love it.
that's ...like LAYERS of cursed lmao
I hadn’t even realized how small the channel was because of the editing quality, great video! The 草书 in the thumbnail intrigued me thinking it was going to be some written system being wacky but then it was so much more cursed than I imagined lmao. Also trans rights
Transportation has the right to turn left too.
Trqns is not right one little bit.
@@servantofaeie1569you are a sad, sad creature
I’m telling you this is a video that everyone has to see at least once in their life
As a Mandarin speaking person, this conlang broke my brain.
Also it's interesting how this language has low information/syllable density. Mandarin has relatively high syllable density, where few syllables can express a whole sentence, but in Hanziyu it can take more than 10 syllables to say a noun.
1:20 There is a story behind the mess in the right. A common theory of its origin is that a student scholar once paid for his noodles with some sick calligraphy in lieu of actual money.
I wonder is it just a typo or is it intentional to have it named 汉子语(han4 zi0 yu3) instead of 汉字语(han4 zi4 yu3)
汉子 means guy or dude
汉字 means hanzi
I’m amazed. You’ve made han characters phonetic
Hanziyu, or how to make chinese sound like all the languages south of china had a single hate-baby language
I enjoyed watching this video, but 30 minutes later I was hungry again.
this video pissed me off, I hope whoever made this conlang is happy with what they've brought upon the world.
This is beautiful, you seriously have a talent at presentation
The choice of music tho 🥺
hongkonger here, this is absolutely brilliant, had me laughing half the video
This video is like reading the entire car manual and understanding combustion in an engine to a physics degree of understanding to drive a car to the store….
The RUclips algorithm truly works in mysterious ways. Promoting a YT channel's first video, interesting!
Also, trying to understand the motive behind this monstrosity is definitely futile. XD
Also, me trying to figure out what is going on with the voice. 😵💫
Here is the translation of the message at the end:
This is not the real thing yet, just warning you that there are spoilers.
“According to the laws of flying, bees should not be able to fly. Their wings are so small that they should not be able let their fat body leave the ground. Of course at the end bees can still fly because they don’t care about the humans who think that it’s impossible.”
I shall patiently await for all your videos to come. :)
What makes this even more perfect is the fact that you can REVERSE ENGINEER the characters and make loanwords into your own Chinese character, and i find that incredibly beautiful
11:40 it took me 2 seconds to realize you're going to start reading the bee move script using the Chinese script, that's enough youtube for the day
No way it didn't take her at least 20 scrapped takes to get those pronunciations lol I would've sounded like a monkey mimicking human speech
edit: Oh my lord. I wrote my comment before I saw the ending. It was completely unnecessary and why would you ever put yourself through that but god was it satisfying
Anybody have Jan Misali's number? This would be funny as hell on conlang critic.
Really appreciating the hanziyu reading of the opening of the Bee Movie
寫而然言之，不亦cursed乎？善哉！
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i really thought "well this ain't so bad," until you explained the split into pairs at 6:03 "oh... oh no"
the best way to tell people you have a ton of free time
Your choice of music throughout the video is impeccable!
I think I'm going to have a stroke
top 10 videos that made me go "oh my god" out loud the most. great job. "strokeme :)" elevated me to a separate plane of existence.
As someone who speak Cantonese and mandarin, Absolute cursed video from top to bottom, including the bee movie script. Great work
The worst part is that I kinda vibe... until it takes a full three minutes to say my name
Bro the music in this video gave me such a nostalgia trip. Especially rare to hear the super monkey ball trax!
What's the super monkey ball song? Timestamp?
@@KooShnoo3:41 I forgot the name of it but it's from super monkey ball deluxe or 2. I'm gonna try to find out the name and get back to you
@@KooShnoo at 5:00 there is another one, pretty sure it's the alternate monkey ball 1 menu theme! was also super hyped to hear it :)
This is your first video??? It’s iconic, it’s everything
SO. CURSED. The logicality of it all makes it even worse.
I loved this video, went to check your channel to see more and... what the hell this is your first video?! This is incredibly good for a first video, congrats. I can't wait to see what else you have in store (if you do plan on making more videos).
The conlang is absolutely cursed also.
This is my favourite cursed conlang circus 2 submission I've seen so far🤩
As a native speaker, I do not understand a single conecpt in this video lol
We just memorize how to pronounce every single chinese word
Stroke order in actual Hanzi is just a didactic tool to help with learning and retention of characters. There's no difference on how the character looks, whichever way you wrote it (unless with a brush, in which case the direction of a stroke matters).
It does affect the way that it looks, just in a subtle way. This applies to any written work, so stroke order (to me) also matters in English; it's very important that you write p with a down stroke THEN do the circle, otherwise it'll look like a ƿ (wynn) or ρ (rho).
This is beyond clever love it
im chinese and i have 0 clue wtf is going on lmao
This is like reading a recipe for something instead of the name for it
Such a cursed monstrosity, shown in a well put together video. Great video, earned a sub! Can't wait to watch your next video!
Edit: Put rap music on the background instead of classical one at 11:40, and I'm listening that for hours.
even though the music in the video gets a bit too high in volume, it kinda adds to the cursedness of this already highly cursed language. I love it 😂
woah, brand new channel.. im subscribing
I think i might have had a stroke at the stroke-eme part 😂😂😂
1:34 if you see someone again and again, they're likely to become friendly
That's a strange way to spell "your nemesis".
I… have… NO idea what is going on here. All I know is, it was absolutely *amazing*, and I mean hands fukien’ down, blow mein meind AMAZING! And soooooo goddamned funny, bewilderingly hilarious, but… it’ll be a long time before I understand anything I just saw. Except this: I’m sticking to French.
Ah yes *A basic Romance lang that isn’t Spanish*
Good gods, what have you unleashed upon the world?!
I love how you took a language which is simple when spoken (in my opinion) but yet complex when written and made both equally complex... 😂
This is lawful evil linguistics
The true chaos language 🤣
I will never understand how people can pronounce each of a bunch of very similar sounds so accurately, whether it's a vowel or a consonant...
I swear to god all chinese languages are just an elaborate gaslighting scheme to make me believe the same word is different
i don't know if it's intentional but 漢子 means 'guy, fella, bloke', so congrats for mansplaining