Zowie FK2 Review (BenQ 2016)
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Video 6 of Zowie Week! Small, 84g, ambidextrous, 3310 optical sensor and a safe shape, definitely worth checking out, just be aware of the buttons on both sides.
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holy shit now this is how you review a mouse!
no one has replied to your comment yet so I will
I actually like this format the. I hate every other review because you know there's usually no gameplay showing how accurate or inaccurate it is.
he knows what he is doing he has reviewed over 100 of them
@Kaotic Kyzan
I think the reason for OMGBigBossTv's comment is because of review channels like hardwarecanucks, it's preference but I like both, one for the b-roll and specs, the other for actual reviews
Just bought FK2 (using your affiliate link) - first time I'm actually buying a mouse without touching it, shows how trusted your reviews are. Hats off to you.
do you like it?
wind Very much so, yes. Definitely prefer it over Deathadder. Aim in QL gone up 10% on the first day (did some instagib FT games as a test).
Switched to EC2-A. Preferred the shape of it.
Anton Somov What is your hand size? I'm currently using a Deathadder Chroma and am thinking of buying the fk2 or ec2-a.
Medium, I don't have a tape measure at hand, I've swapped my FK2 for EC2-A with a friend of mine when he came over for a little QC/QL LAN session, just loved the shape of it. I've had a DA2013, was slightly too big for semi-claw grip, I found, but cool for those lazy drunk days to rest the hand on palm grip. If you like your DA, I'd suggest EC2-A.
This guy has to start making his own mice, id totally buy a mouse from Rocket Jump Ninja.
Same here.
Same on my side
same here.
same for me
same, as long as the branding isnt too over the top
Nice to see Zowie showing love and recognizing the channel.
Bought this as soon as I saw this video. Still works like a charm after 3 years, good product imo.
Same here still going strong in 2021
A decent mouse but nowhere near the power and performance of the apple magic mouse. I mean the 1cm high soap design suitable for any type of grip and hand size, the wireless Bluetooth input for maximum input performance, the epic gaming-grade sensor, the multi-touch surface, it even has a single gaming-grade button click switch to make sure that there are fewer moving parts and fewer things that can break. Apple > Zowie 2016
Brilliant satire, exactly what someone who never plays games would say, just like a real Mac user!
i think you felt for low quality bait mate
hatePICTURES It's satire, done really well. Bait is a bit less detailed.
No, he recognized it as satire and even called it as such.
Yeah right, play CSGO with your mouse, i'll bet that you'll get pwnd very very easily
Just want to say THANK YOU. I ended up getting this mouse based on your video here and I couldn't be happier. Right out of the box it was fantastic.
+Zac Attack Glad to hear it!
Has it lasted?
@@elliotquach5258 I bought a Fk2 with RJNs affiliate link its still working in 2021 :D
After years of playing with right-handed only mice (Deathadder, G500, G400s) I just picked mine up yesterday and I tested it out in Overwatch for 2-3 hours. I was coming from a G400s so the lighter weight and low profile shape definitely took me by surprise. I was amazed at how well I was able to aim and play with it. I was able to make shots with McCree that had been a challenge before. With other mice I used it felt like I was fighting against the mouse itself to try and aim but this dude just glides around my QcK Heavy incredibly well. Cheers for the review, it was spot on.
Good to hear, thanks for the update!
I love the FK2, without a doubt the most comfortable mouse i've ever had.
Amen
2 years old but what hand size and grip? I'm a 18cm by 9 claw, wanted to know if you have EC2 and if that's better or what?
FernoFlake XM1
Wow! New mouse of choice! Definitely sounds like a winner. I was definitely surprised to hear that knowing your affinity for the EC2-A
I got this mouse a few days ago! Ask me any questions you would like!
memeologist
16cm hands by 8cm, it feels quite nice! It's a bit smaller than the Sensei Raw I used to have, but it feels really nice and I can play for hours.
memeologist
Zowie definetly have some awesome mice, I hope you enjoy it :D
Makoro Gaming I think the Zowie FK2 is better
Quacker Crackers Hi, i would like to know if you can activate both sides of the mouse button at the same time. in the video, he said only one side could be activated at the time. please answer, this is a break dealer for me.
Potato Alchemist
I actually tried it myself messing around with the mouse, but it's just not possible. So maybe look at a mouse with the same shape but can have both sides active.
Thank you RJN! I had a Razer Deathadder, Logitech G502 and then a Steelseries Rival 300 but could never get the comfort level I was looking for competitive play. Until I saw this review and purchased the Zowie FK2 on your recommendation and I have to say, This mouse is fantastic for my 7inch (17cm) hand!!! Thank you again for all your research and videos!
Are you going to compare the ec2-a and the fk2 in a video any time soon?
ec2-a is a shit mouse
Carrying what?lul
the ec is made more for palm grips i believe and the fk2 is more for claw or fingertip
If you want a symmetrical mouse, buy the FK2. If you want an ergonomic mouse, buy the EC2B.
1:12 "low hump in the middle" that's exactly what is most suitable for me(shape-wise) and if the size is okay then it's the mouse for me. The less curl you need to make of your hand while holding the mouse, the more comfortable it is for you to use longer and avoid hand strain. the liter and flatter and a bit smaller mice are always better for a long time fps gaming.
R.I.P Zowie EC2-A
11/19/2015 - 5/13/2016
Nah ec2-a is still amazing. Not trashing this mouse but ec2-a is still competing imo.
+Maximus Epicus yeah, but it still lost its crown. It's not king anymore :(
+DP2gaming yeah I agree
+Maximus Epicus Compared to FK-2 ? idk why it would be rip because they both have the same performance and it s just a matter of shape whether you like it or not.
+DP2gaming It lost it's crown here, but there are other gamers in this world.
after this review i went out and bought the fk2, really happy with it except for the scroll wheel. great review
Fun fact: the fk2 was named after Filip "Neo" Kubski :)
Jag Ram also the reason I wanna buy it. Neo is my hero
Jag Ram
NEO The greatest 1.6 player
Pretty sure neo uses the ec2a himself xD
this is one of the best constructed reviews of a product i've seen - massively helpful
Still waiting for the Zowie RJN
Great, great choice! I have been avoiding Zowie mice because they have no programmable dpi button and I use that button to throw grenades but Quake Champions has no grenades so I finally decided to buy a Zowie mouse (just to test in QC (I must be crazy)). I only needed 30 seconds with this mouse to realize this is the mouse that will beat all my scoring records. Best sensor implementation of all time, a step ahead of the ROG Gladius II in terms of sensor implementation. I couldn't really test it in Quake Champions because of the immense lag, ping and bugs so I gave up on that. Instead I tested it in Doom Ultra Nightmare Arcade lvl 12 with the Roccat Alumic (speed side) mouse pad. I used it with what I call the puppeteer/crane grip. That grip puts the sensor right at the exact imaginary center between the 5 fingers (middle and index finger are basically at the top of the mouse, tip of my thumb only reaches half of the back thumb button (can't reach the forward thumb button without readjusting the grip). Well, to put it simply, with this grip I can do things that were never possible before. 96 Headshots on lvl12 of Ultra nightmare on first try, but not just regular headshots, it's aimbot style headshots with a speed and precision that I simply cannot do with any other mouse and pad combo. Absolutely surreal!!! Just a shame this 3310 and 3988 sensors lose track on my favorite pad (Corsair MM600 smooth side). This FK2 with the 3360 sensor, programmable dpi button, thumb buttons placed 1cm further back, a slightly more rounded V-Shapped back near the end and extra metal feet (like A4tech Bloody) for guys like me who love the unique feedback and consistency of metal feet on hard and smooth pads would make this mouse absolute perfection in every sense. If it also had easily replaceable switches (like Gladius II) and replaceable mouse wheel I would gladly pay up to 120eur for a new version of it. Just take my money already.
Anyway, I've just realized you have 2 different lists of favorite mice. It makes much more sense now. Your top40 didn't make much sense to me from a Vet point of view but makes a lot of sense if is more directed at the regular gamer in general. The g403 is the Jack of all trades, master of none. Perfect mouse for players who are not at World Class level yet. Can''t go wrong with it. The only mouse I find curious in that personal list of yours is the Cooler Master MasterMouse S. Only because of sensor positioning. I found it curious that you managed to adapt to it. It's one of those things that makes a mouse completely incompatible with me.
Well, keep up the good reviews. Btw, the guy that is already one light year ahead of everyone else in Quake Champions is not Zero4 (I red it wrong, saw the Z4 for a split second and thought I saw Zero4), it's actually the Swedish Z4muZ. I won't even bother with the game as it is. I would need 10 hours of practice a day just to catch up to him in 3 months. Don't have the time, nor do I like the game as it is now.
I actually read all of that holy crap
@@yeetboi7042 same bud
Youre the best mouse reviewer.
As a experienced RTS-player I'd tend to say that the weight plays a pretty big role on a mouse, and the little over 80g of the FK2 is great because you have to move fast and precise in RTS-Games, which is hard if you dont have an ambidextrous mouse like even the EC2-A or a Razer Deathadder (which still some pro's use). Concluding I think the FK2 is a very good choice considering the old Zowie Mico was the go to choice for many korean Starcraft II professionals.
Do you think this would be too long coming from a Logitech G303? I have small hands, smaller than yours and I usually play sniper class in FPS.
i was about to ask that
Same question. I like the length and size of the G303 but I could do without this shape.
ive tried both. the fk2 is a real low profile mouse. good for small hands . and a safe shape. not as extreme as the g303 shape
Hero Thanks for the insight!
Hey man thank for these reviews, I bought this FK2 after I watched almost of you videos and I have to say its just as good as u say. I've used it for QC and Dota2 last few days and this shape is just awesome and I can confirm it suits ALL grip styles, including mine which is a super weird hybrid on a 19cm hand. The shape is a huge improvement from the Rival 110 I had before, the low profile middle hump is simply... zen. Greetings from Europe!
I'm thinking to buy but idk if i buy the fk2 or fk1, my size is 18,7cm length x 10,4 wide what do you think ? i use claw grip that fits good ? Thanks!
Vitor Luiz I would buy the fk2 because it's smaller than the fk1, but its NOT in the small mouse category. The fk2 is at least a medium mouse but its low profile makes it suited to all grig styles
+Vitor Luiz fk1 is too long for my 18.5 cm x 9 hands. For claw grip.
Is this worth it in June 2019?
Check out the Zowie Black S2 coming soon... I'd hold off buying for now. But yeah still a top mouse.
@@RocketJumpNinja fk1/2,s2,or model o?
Which one stands out between g403 and zowie fk2? Mainly for csgo use.
IMPRESSIVE! :D . Great review as always! Love my BenQ Zowie EC2-A. Also, Scream One now has an official release date :o ! Hopely we can get a review in the next several weeks. Keep up the good work!
Zowie fk2 vs ec2-a ????
depends on your grip style. games you play, and hand size
What about battlefield 1, cs go, dota 2 and between palm and claw grip? ty :)
Uros Rakic oh dear dont buy any zowie mouse for moba's the mouse clicks are heavy and becomes a hassle when you press them so many time in succession
I would like to thank you for this video, because i used to use a RAZER deathadder and I switch to the zowie FK2 and i'm so happy right now
for claw grip and 18cm hands, which mouse is better ec2-a or fk2 ?
+Ian Alexandre fk2
did you try fk2? and if ure using za13,is the hump annoying? and isnt it a bit thin?i have same size and same grip,so i'm about to buy fk2 or za13 but i cant choose,fk2.
+Robo Noe if you oike the hump on the za13 then you're using a hybrid claw and palm grip instead of just claw...
Ian Alexandre i have about a 18-19 cm hand and i claw it, im using the fk2 and i think i still will a couple of years forward, really like it
Easily the best mouse reviewer on youtube. You deserve more subs.
your voice is so similar to greenhamgaming it's almost scary
and they both play quake wtf!
MisTy
They are also both Australian, coincidence?
Its confirmed
What if... GHG is RJN?
What if...RJN IS GHG
great review as always, it feels amazing that I'm still really interested in checking all your reviews even though I already bought myself a rival 300 (in part for your reviews, of course).
Hope you start getting also some keyboards from companies (apex 500 or some logitech ones would be great to start with).
Really happy to see your channel grow up so quickly!!
buuuut what about a zowie FK3!? vs zowie ec3a!?
FK2 would be the same size as the EC3-A.
EC2-A is same as the FK1.
thanks for the reply, but i meant, should they jump to making both of each, and since theyre lighter, i assume ur choice again would be the FK3?
If the mouse shell goes too small, it can be harder to aim so weight wouldn't be as important. I'd have to test it to know for sure.
I am loving my fk2. Thanks for your effort of testing mice continuously
Really wished the RUclips app didn't suck. The video froze at 20 seconds and I continued watching a frozen screen till 2:20 because I could still hear the video playing.
+TheGamingDildacorn stop plugging in your bluetooth devices while the video playing.
Yesto Not using a bluetooth device. Using earphones and I always have bluetooth disabled.
+TheGamingDildacorn shit phone m8 xDDD. jk restarting the vid usually does the trick
+Yesto Yaaa or just rewinding for me. I am on a Nexus 6
thanks to you I ordered the Eca-2 and it fits perfect! I have 19.5+ cm hands and your recommendation of smaller mice was spot on! I'm coming from a sensei and its a huge upgrade
THANKYOU DADDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Hey Zy I bought the deathadder elite 3 weeks ago and although a great mouse I really jumped in head first with it.
After watching your video I measured my hand (same size as yours) and I went and ordered this mouse.
It feels leaps and bounds ahead of the Razer because I’m not stretching to be comfy. I’m way better on cs go too because of the native dpi steps. I used synapse to set my own custom dpi which resulted in choppy aiming. With the Zowie I set my desired dpi and In game sensitivity and I’m so comfortable with it.
Anyway just to let you know thanks for opening my eyes I now have to sell my Razer as I bought myself the Zowie bungee which I didn’t even know would be great.
Who else uses this mouse to this day? I do!
Me! Mine is the pre benq tho with the white scroll wheel and logo aha 😅
@@HollowRick I was able to get my hands on a zaunkoenig m1k since I use finger tip grip
@@hyserminecraft9499 ohhh very nice im waiting for them to update the mouse i can't live without a scroll wheel aha
I just bought a Kinzu V1 Optical and I genuinely think it is the best mouse I've ever owned. Super light, amazing buttons and good sensor.
+Brandon Teeter (bruzanHD) why would you buy a freaking discontinued mouse
Pomi Piore
because it is the closest to perfect mouse I've ever used.
Ec2a still best
I can personally vouch for the FK2 as I was originally sceptical of it - but it exceeds my expectations. The coating has not reacted badly to sweaty hands in the last few days of using it, and it's quite a comfortable shape - even for a warped palm-claw grip. The scroll wheel has not bothered me at all - and seems great for gaming and completely usable for internet browsing.
I just bought this mice today, how i change dbi?
Button on the bottom of the mouse. 400 / 800 / 1600 / 3200
Thanks!
+rocket jump ninja Hey boss what is more comfortable on the hand zowie fk2 or zowie ec2-a? And can I set the 2 buttons on the left side to volume up and volume down?
If you wanna change the dpi unplug the mouse from your computer and swing it like a helicopter and hit it into your desk as hard as you can (repeat these steps until you get the dpi that you wanted)
Probably the EC2-A because of it's ergonomic design. And to answer your second question: If you have a program to assign hotkeys to your mouse buttons, you can. But because the mouse doesn't come with a software, you can't "just" do it (I should mention, that you can never use all four side buttons at the same time - either the two on the right or the two on the left side).
RIP reign of the EC2-A. Another great review! I'd like to give the FK2 a try sometime. I've been pretty down about mice recently. I returned my G303 and XM300 because still nothing can beat the WMO for me.
yay im so early
Ty for this video. I was pretty scaptical about this mouse and i wasnt sure if its the right for me. I got one myself and Iam so happy now. Your video helped me a lot. This mouse is insane for CounterStrike or aiming in total. Great work man :) Keep the good work!
Why are these zowie mices looks so cheap and ugly in colors(?) even the overall black looks more silver/grey and not matt more shiny and the wheel color in this old grey give the mouse even in 2016 a 2001 look, especially with this ugly red logo now combined with the other points I said!!! And this standard, cheap, "plastic" cable (the cable from my old Logitech g400 just "broke" or fall of/out from the mice itself, I can't trust these rubber/plastic cables anymore if they have this imgur.com/a/OHjhD) I want a zowie with a true "Jet" Matt Black color with white highlights Logo Wheel or any other color like this yellow from the old zowie fk2 model that looked sick! And the cable should be something like from the dm1 or ss sensei with clothes and fully plugged into the mouse like this imgur.com/a/jIR5E. I wish I could Order a dm1 pro s (but more smaller like the fk2) in my country.
I just wish there were a Zowie, shape like dm1/sensei, small like the fk2, better cable(cloth), better/fresher colors, for righthand only (and lefthand only) so on the right/left site are no buttons like on the dm1 pro and maybe some color-lights like logo and wheel that's it.. simple shit
Very detailed review! This video and your website helped me alot to decide which mouse i should buy.
Thanks, +1 sub :)
Good to hear. Welcome to the channel!
I know it sounds redundant, but PLEASE give the FK1 a try, you might like it more.
For me, the slightly increased size really adds to the comfort and makes the mouse easier to grip/pick up AND aim with.
I can almost guarantee that it won't feel too big, since (for me at least) the ec2a felt more bulky and bigger than the FK1.
+N3XUS What is your hand size according to Zy's measurement?
Doesn't matter.
That's not a golden rule...
people seem to take everything as an always-true law when u attach numbers to them...
You can't rule a mouse shell out based on numbers, because whether or not it'll be good for you depends on the FEELING you get when you are holding it, which cannot be quatified.
If you can't take my word for it, because my word means nothing compared to the rules that the almighty "Zy" set for you (btw, that's just how you see them, he tells everyone in every video that the measurements are just there as help and a general indication, nothing definitive, they could be true in some cases, but not in every case), then take HIS word for it, as previously, before testing the FK2 he said that the EC2a has just the right size for his palm, anything smaller or larger would not be as good of a fit... but now, after testing the FK2 he actually prefers its smaller size...
Say whaaat?
People actually need to try out mice befere they can pass judgement???
Can't they just rule them out based on hand sizes, grip widths and shit???
(btw, I understand why you'd want to do that, as most people don't have enough time and money to try out every single candidate... but unfortunately, no other method works)
Jokes aside... no.
You can't.
So stop trying to do so.
Sorry for the rant, this block of text isn't only directed towards you, but rather everyone who got himself really caught up on the numbers and forgot that they are only there to give people some general idea, because fitting numbers reassure people... like mice are similar to clothes or something... they are not.
"if your hand size isn't between X and Y number, you definitely won't be able to aim well with this and that mouse"
^Stuff like this is simply not true, and I'm trying to stop people from thinking the opposite.
Got this mouse yesterday and wanted to reassure anyone thinking about getting it. This mouse is nearly perfect. The size, the weight, the quality, and the sensor are just perfect. Only problem is, I came from a Razer Mamba TE and I was used to the right handed ergonomic shape and since the FK2 is ambidextrous, it took me about a day to get used to. After I did, it was absolutely perfect. I play competitive Battlefield 4 and my precision and recoil compensation dramatically improved as soon as I began playing. I'm very happy with this mouse and I can see why it's Zy's current favorite.
Do you think I would prefer it over the EC2-A (I currently use the Logitech G303)
That's a tough decision. I'd say for me, one of the best, if not, the best things about the FK2 is its small size, shape, and weight. It may also depend on which grip style you use and which game you play. For example, I said I played a lot of BF4 where I have to pull down and to the left to compensate for the recoil (especially with the AEK-971's recoil). That movement wasn't exactly difficult, but because of the size, shape, and weight of the Mamba TE and its higher arch, it wasn't the easiest thing to do either. I could just feel I needed a smaller mouse. The moment I began using the FK2, that motion became much easier due to the lower arch, smaller shape, and significantly lighter build.
So, in your case, I'd ask myself if I think I'd be more comfortable and perform better with a smaller and lighter mouse; since that's the main difference between the FK2 and the EC2-A.
Considering you're currently using the G303, which is already one of the smaller mice, I'd say you'd feel more at home with the FK2, since the size, shape, and weight are already quite similar to the G303. (For reference, my hand is the same exact length and width as Zy's). Hope this helped.
+BSC-Saturn thanks man. helped me out a lot
Glad I could help.
BSC-Saturn Hey, your comment helped me make my decision on the fk2 as well... I mainly play bf4/bf1/titanfall and other fps games. In bf4, the aek is my gun of choice and the recoil control isn't easy. So ill take yr advice seeing that this mouse helped your aim and control a bit.
just bought this mouse and the g403 and all I can say is wow. The shape and size of the FK2 is literal perfection if you fingertip grip, IMO. The weight is also amazing. I am not even joking when I say that my aim improved drastically on FPS games within the first hour of trying it out. Beats the g403 by a mile.
However, my main issue is the buttons are rather stiff. I'm coming from the g502, which has fairly easy to press buttons, so it may just take some getting used to. But geez, I feel like I'm giving my forearms a workout using it! If this mouse had lighter left/right clicks (the side buttons are fine btw, very easy to press) it would be nearly perfect.
I bought this mouse off your recommendation and I can say, to anyone considering buying it, that is was 100% worth it :).
Ended up going to a shop and tried various mice myself. Based on similar hand size and similar grip I planned on trying out the FK2 or the EC2. In the end however I ended up going for the FK1. The FK2 felt too cramped for my hand. On the EC2 the side buttons felt terrible and mushy compared to the FK Series (Use them as push to talk)
That said coming from a Roccat Kone XTD and Logitech G500, the lighter shell, good build quality and the fact that it is not really noticeable to anyone not familiar with these mice means I can generally use it wherever I want without garnering to much attention is a welcome upgrade and I'm very happy with this choice.
Thanks for the in-depth review of the product from the eyes (hands?) of an actual well performing FPS player.
How big are your hands?
+Loopy FA 18.5cmx10cm
do you palm?
Natural stance. Same as if you let your hands drop to your side. Kind of a palm/claw hybrid.Calibrik
+Zgicc hmm. ok.
As always, nice review. My experience with the FK2 made me appreciate my EC2-A even more. I have small hands with a fingertip/claw hybrid grip. The thing I never could feel comfortable with the FK and ZA series mice was the subtle slope on M1/M2 buttons (also the shell makes the clicks stiffer than they have to be). From the front or the rear, the main buttons have this subtle: / \ slope. It kinda forces my middle & index fingers near the edges of the mouse which sorta feels weird. The EC2-A may be slightly heavier, but the way the M1/M2 buttons of that mouse is contoured makes sure your middle/index fingers stay on the sweet spot of those buttons. Just my experience. Keep the reviews coming Zy!
btw amazing video as always ;) i read your tweet about how doom takes a long time to download and how it takes a lot of storage but non the less you're an amazing youtuber. keep it up zy and have a good day
Best review of a mouse i've seen in a while, nice job man.
if you're not sure which to use, I think you should stick with the fk2. remember that you've been testing it for days (or hours), imagine what you'll be capable of after playing months with it. interesting that you prefer this one over the ZA despite being a palm gripper
I've had the fk1 for around a week now and I can definitelty say that it was worth buying. I have absolutly no complaints about it. I perform a lot better now than with my older mouse.
But one thing thats weird is when I measured the grip width of the mouse it was around 5.2 - 5.5 cm. Just a small thing to think about.
you are a legend cheers man. Appreciate youre top 40 of 2016 vid
Just bought this mouse on your (great) review. Very impressed. I also own the Logitech 502, Corsair rgb pro 65, Razer chroma rgb and Logitech MX Master. I play CS:GO mainly and have concluded that the fk2 is now my goto fps mouse.
FK2 is light, responsive and very well made. Included is spare slippy feet. Which should be included with all premium mice.
A brief comparison to the fk2;
#Logitech 502 is heavier, well made (apart from the rattling scroll wheel) slim and easy to control, extra buttons for on the fly changes. Dpi by colour indication is good, has the added appeal of easy switching parameters for different modes with again colour indication. It's my close second choice fps mouse.
#Razer chroma rgb is a bit heavier, fairly well made (the scroll wheel seems to rock and click side to side & shouldn't do), the software is a touchy point as you need to enroll to be able to use it! A bit too wide for my finger grip control but very responsive non the less.
# Corsair rgb pro 65 is quite a bit heavier (even with all weights removed), it's very well made, dpi switching is the best imo with colour indication. Just wished it was not so wide and they removed or repossitioned the sniper button. The width makes it less controllable in fps games and the sniper button makes it uncomfortable for prolonged use. This would possible be one of my all time favourites if they resolved these two issues for me.
#Logitech MX Master is not a gaming mouse for fps, but just a very comfortable, very well made mouse. Recommend if you casual game and want a Rolls Royce of mice.
I think a good design for ambidextrous designs with buttons on both sides is to make it possible to press the buttons in and tighten a hex screw on the bottom of the mouse so they stay flush with the body of the mouse (until you loosen the hex screw). It should be possible to do on both sides so left-handed players can disable the right side and also for players who prefer the mouse no buttons at all so they tighten the screws on both sides.
I have a 18.5 x 9.5cm hand with a palm/fingertip hybrid grip. The tips of my fingers and the bottom of my hand stays on the mouse while the midsection hovers. I'm torn between the Fk1/Fk2, Za13/12 or the Ec1-A. I play Competitive FPS games, what would you recommend?
Take a fk2
Thank you Rocket Ninja for giving us so much information especially for people who want to afford a good mouse like from zowie and they don't have the chance to test it in real life
Just ordered the FK2. Thanks for the detailed review. I'm coming from a Proteus G502 which I find a tad heavy and long so looking forward to the FK2.
I want this mouse, but i'm too used to the buttons on the top of the DeathAdder.
Hopefully the FK2 gets an upgraded sensor !
Woah, 84? thats pretty light. Cool to see all these zowie reviews. That light of your seems a bit bright when you do the closeups of the mice. Nice additions on the mice. btw i got back in to ql, and im really happy with the addition of race, but it is a bit late.
I ordered this mouse a week ago and been playing with it ever since. Tried many mice myself and keep searching for the best mouse. So far i love the FK2 because it's kinda small. Only thing is i noticed some tracking problems on the lowest lift off distance on my Corsair MM300 mouse pad. That's a shame. I decided to buy an Corsair MM200 mousepad and try that. Because that one is plain black i thought the problems would go away but i noticed bad tracking on that one aswell on the lowest lift off distance. That pretty bad IMO. I now switched the lift off distance to a higher setting. That works, but sometimes my mouse still moves when i'm picking it up. Is that a regular issue on cloth pads with these mice? I used my Corsair M65 Pro mouse on the same pads and that worked pretty well on the lowest LOD settings.
Have you ever tried switching to using a mouse with your left hand? I got an FK1 recently and I've been using it a fair bit with my left due to some pain in my right arm, it's a bit weird in games still, but I'm getting used to it for general PC use. One bonus to having the mouse on the left is that the keyboard's main section can bemore central to you and therefore more comfortable to type on (you don't have to bend your wrists at a funny angle), and the mouse does't have to so far away from you for this. I've found that smaller tenkeyless or 60% keyboards are good for this reason too. Just curious as to how you handle ergonomics and pain/RSI when using M/KB, it's kind of an occupational hazard for us computer users! :)
Thanks.
Thanks for the review,
I had a similar wow factor while testing the FK1.2016 compared to my current Rival, it felt weirdly more responsive and I was hitting extremely good. Sadly it's a bit too slim for me(little finger cramp) and I'm now awaiting the FK1+ release, which was announced 2 days after I send back the FK1, lucky me :).
Is it worth to swap Rival 310 for FK2? I used Kinzu V3 for almost 3 years, and at septembar last year i bought RIval. Its heavier than Kinzu for 15 grams, overall bigger, especially higher, because its not ambidextrous like kinzu its more righthanded . I used to play cs 1.6 on kinzu v3 using finger tip grip from this video ruclips.net/video/wSl15sDzCL4/видео.html but in csgo movement feels more bulky comparing to cs 1.6 and i just couldn't play with finger tip grip because it just didnt feel right. When my Kinuz died i bought Rival 310 to try out palm grip. It's been 7 months since i bought it and even today i just cant find way to hold it so i can spray normally. I'm playing 1.5 in game sens and 400 DPI, on Qck+ mousepad. I have to play with my elbow on a table and my arm gets sweaty and kind of get "glued" to the table and i cant move it at certain moment when i need to spray. Using this mice with finger tip grip for me is like using brick instead of mouse. My hand is 19.5cm long and 10.5 cm wide.
Is it worth switch omron mechanical switches, truemove3 sensor for huano and 3310? :/
I was wondering if you would like the FK2. I've been using the original FK (same size as FK2) and now the FK2 for many years. I tried the EC2-A on your recommendation recently, but came back to the FK2. The smaller ambidextrous shape seems to give me an edge over the EC2-A also. The EC2-A is more ergonomic, but I aim better with the FK2.
Glad I found your channel. Been watching videos for hours. Very informative. They get better and better - more concise and detailed.
Anyway, few questions.
Hand is about 20cm long and 11cm wide. I prefer a finger grip, my palm hardly touching the mouse surface, controlling the mouse mostly with my thumb and ring and a little my pinky. I'll press just a little with the part of my hand where my fingers start.
I also prefer the buttons not to curve too much downward.
Currently, due to your recommendations, I've been using the G302. It ticks off a lot of what I described above( and of course a great sensor) but I really don't like the angles as the ones in the back of the mouse rub sharply against the back side of my hand. I think I'd enjoy a more curved, slightly sloping back.
I'm also thinking I would like a mouse that has a wide grip and the 302 isn't very wide, as I feel I'm really squeezing or relying on top pressure more than I'd like to control the mouse.
Ok so there are some key details.
Based on what I've seen here I've been thinking maybe the FK1 would be a good fit for me. The ZA11 seems more for palm users - that big rear hump may be in the way for me. The EC1, I'm not sure. I've also wondered about the Gigabyte (300?).
Anyway - recommendations? I saw someone talking about the 1.1a. I remember using that mouse and feeling it was perfect. I could pick it up and control it without hitting the buttons, with just my thumb and my ring finger. So maybe what I'm seeing - the FK1 - is best.
Thanks for your videos and site. Look forward to more reviews.
The rattle is the scroll wheel?
It seems like Zowie has QC issues with the BenQ lineup.
Many people have this issue so...
I'm glad u like the mouse I'm currently using. Athough It's not perfect (I use the older revision one, I still have input delay and stuff). I'm preety sure you like smaller mice, because it's easier to make small adjustments with smaller mice if your grip is pure palm.
Also I don't know if you already noticed, but your "go to go character" from overwatch Pharah can actually bounce off things with the projectile, I believe it was binded to E key. It's not as good as in quake, but still (if you gonna play overwatch of course). Have fun using the FK2 :D
The shape isn't very safe. When I claw grip it, I find my ring finger and my pinky touching while being the the groove on the right, not comfortable at all. And that's what hinders me from using it over the steelseries rival 300
Thank you for your recommendation on this mouse!
My favourite mouse and my daily driver!
gently hold the scroll wheel in place while shaking the mouse. that is what is causing the rattling on my. all in all i believe this is a solid mouse. i had a steel series sensei prior to this, and the change is 100% fantastic. the fk2 is a nice light mouse with fantastic size for my hands.
btw sick quake gameplay.
Awesome review, but it made my life a bit more complicated. For someone with 18cm hands and who uses primarily palm and sometimes fingertip grip, would you recommend this or the EC2-A?
the only thing missing from your reviews are how hard you have to press to activate the click. i bought a zowie mouse because of your review and i was pretty disappointed because it was so hard to right click. ended up having to sell the mouse and lost money. it wasn't a defect, zowie mice are just harder to click for some reason.
judge sim they use huano switches, which are more tactile and tougher, aswell as the buttons no being split from shell leads it to being much harder.
Havent you find it a little bit slippery on the pinky side when you have to lift it in comparison with the ec2a? I'm trying both
I'm getting this mouse :) Thanks for the video i subbed and liked.
just my 2 cents.. I have a larger hand and I've used full palm grip for years.. just switched from a finalmouse ergo to fk2. honestly the mouse felt too small for me and I didn't love the ambi shape but I honestly think I aim way better. I am forced to finger tip the mouse because my hand isn't small, meaning I have a lot of room to move the mouse with my fingers which gives me a lot of precision within a small radius. I would recommend others trying it. don't worry if you have big hands or you use large/ergo/palm grip you may just like it
I have a fingertip grip, and I think that the buttons should ideally be on top for that grip. If I want to simultaneously move the mouse and press buttons on the side with my thumb, it's kind of hard. I lose control because thumb, pinkie and ring finger are the ones that mainly move the mouse. When the buttons are on top, I can move the mouse freely with almost full control while using my index finger to press the buttons.
Hi! Assuming I consider ZA11, with its microswitch reliability problems, somewhat clunky wheel and easily abradable matte finish, as a bit overpriced, what other mouses would you guys recommend? I've just returned mine due to double click problem in MMB and to be honest I'd love to switch to a slightly less pricy mouse with softer MMB. I browse more than I play games and I got a sore finger on more than one occasion even though I often work as a construction worker. It's nowhere near as bad as the unusable wheel on the old Logitech G500 but still...
Which one suits better for claw grip (EC2-A, FK2 or ZA 13), taking into consideration the size of my hand (18 cm) ? Thank you.
+Rocket Jump Ninja I really like the G302's shape, but I want to test something similar from Zowie, so which one do you think I should try first? EC-2A or FK2? I am pretty sure FK2 should handle similar to the G302, but since you tested both, I would appreciate your feedback on the matter.
I chose to activate the left side buttons by mistake and I want to activate the right side buttons What do I try to press 1 + 3 but did not work
With medium sized hands would palm grip work on this mouse and the right set of buttons not be a problem
Love this mouse - it's excellent for fingertip grip with it's low hump and low weight. Moved away from my EC2A / FK1+ / XM300 despite my large hands.
Colin Chapman was onto something: remove weight and add lightness.
i bought this mouse and its feels great with sensor,clicks,shape, im playing mmorpg/fps/moba no regrets on this mouse 10/10
Hey Zy, could you maybe help me with a purchase decision? My hands are 18.5 x 9.5 cm., hybrid grip (more claw). I've been looking at the zowie fk2 or ec2-a. Problem with zowie, it's nowhere to be found in EU, and I would have to wait 1 month to get them. (or pay 80 eur ). Do you think I should get them for that price or just wait for stock in different stores? I'm also thinking about getting the DM1 Pro. Thank you!
I use the fingertip grip. Should I use the EC2-A or FK2. I have small hands.
+Rocket Jump Ninja for the buttons do you prefer the fk2 or the ec2-a? or are they both just very similar to you?
When you used the Zowie FK2, did you use palm grip? I have slightly smaller hands (couple of millimetres) than you but I'm scared if I'll buy it, palm grip will be not completely comfortable on the long run.
How tall are you actually in person? For comparison reasons...
Nice review as always! Are you planning to make an ambidextrous mouse comparison between the fk, za, sensei/dm1, and g900 anytime soon?
I play with the FK1 and the PTF-X and I love it. I kinda need the FK1 since my hands are 19cm long and about 10-10.5 cm wide. I think the FK1+ would fit me abit better because its wider.. but the weight is increased too much so I dont want to change to it.
Great review, Zy! keep it up.
What's your grip mate? I have about the same hand size as you and kind of hybrid fingertip. Im wondering which zowie should I get. Thanks
+Vicente Nobuyoshi I find myself hybrid fingertip it too or claw it - still hybriding it. Feels more natural to do so with the FK1 for my hand at least! If you get one let me know how it feels for you!
+MrSchn sure.. I'll let you know. I was going for ec2, but since the amazon is out of stock I had to look for something else. Thanks my friend
+Vicente Nobuyoshi Cool. I have the EC2-A but perfer the FK1. You are welcome!
I would be interested to see your impressions of the ROG Gladius, just had mine delivered and really quite liking it so far.
that's a great mouse, I hope he does a review of it.
Do you think it would be good for someone with large hands like Top to bottom 20cm and 11cm Side to side with a Hybrid Fingertip / Claw ?
Hey, my hands are about 19.5 x 9.5 cm and I'm thinking to buy the FK1/2. I palm grip for browsing and hybrid palm/claw for gaming. Should I get the FK1 or the FK2? I already tried EC1-A but I'm not a fan of the shape. Thanks