Security Stories 7 - Biker Gangs
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- If you are a Sons of Anarchy fan you probably have some ideas about Bikers. Of course that was fictional... I got to experience their lifestyle first hand after working two venues that they frequented. We got pretty friendly and I ended up invited to their social events and even a wedding. I talk about some of those experiences and why ultimately I chose to cease the friendship and move on. Doing 23 years of security gave me some unique insights into worlds normally hidden from the average person. Hopefully these videos allow me to cast some light into these darker places..
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Interesting insight into a world most of us don't see. Please keep the stories coming.
I worked as a musician in the 80's and 90's. Lost count of the number of biker gigs we played at. Often in their clubs. My impressions are pretty much the same as yours. They tend to run along the same lines. They are brotherhoods, based upon their own type of honour and culture. Respect them, don't ask any questions, stay well clear of their business, enjoy their humour, generosity and company. Play the music they enjoy. After the show pack up and go home. And you'll be welcome back. They were better employers than many bar owners!
So, don't play YMCA?
I totally believe these stories are true. I was a biker. I was never a three patch club member, but I knew some of these guys. And I’ve seen some stuff, too.
It's all true.
Not a biker myself,but used to drink in the same places they did,and even some club's and pubs that they owned and ran.It's common knowledge how they operate.
I've had prospects tell me to leave because I was talking to the wrong woman.As long as you show some respect you should be ok.
@@ravenmad9225 Yeah, all the Angles I ever met were cool guys, but I wouldn’t cross one of them.
Ex military here. Off topic, why do veterans and bikers get alone shockingly well 🍻
I met the Chilean rose 😂😂
One funny prospect story I know of was when he had to ride from Cheshire in the early hours to buy a Mars Bar from a service station in Milton Keynes and bring back the receipt as proof! Lol...
I'd have come back with a Milky Way just to be awkward!! 😂
People find these stories hard to believe because they are absolutely mad. Keep them coming they're fantastic and really interesting
Hey man. Appreciate the video and sharing your stories. Please don’t give the troll’s/haters any air time just by mentioning it. They ain’t worth it, probably haven’t lived any sort of life themselves, and are just full of sadness and hate.
All the best.
@@Inverse_Midas Appreciate it bud.
Love the content mate - could you do a video on de-escalation? Seems the most important part of door work but no one ever talks about it
Good comment
@@davidwithey1479 sure thing!
I do wonder how effective de escalation is.
Once people drink a lot and things kick off it seems hard to stop the fists flying.
@@NoNowwwell yeah of course, but for everyone one of those situations, there are 10 which could easily be resolved with a few words and common decency
@@NoNowwwellit usually depends on how determined to fight they are. They know you have to at least try to deescalate and if they aren’t in the mood for talking it can get a bit Leary.
Loving this series, looking forward to more of them.
Your stories reminded me a little bit of some of the experiences Hunter Thompson reported in his book many years ago.
@@KristianWontroba I love Hunter S Thompson. Dr Gonzo rules!
I remember the phrase from that book "all for one, and all on one" which lines up with the club rule he mentioned.
I haven't even watched this video yet, but I love your stories. Thank you for being truthful. Keep posting!
Thank you! Will do!
I’m a security guard and have been for 14 years. I found with biker clubs that I didn’t really have much to worry about. They seemed to be concerned to a point about they’re public image and as for they’re rules they weren’t even allowed outside the venue for a cigarette. Maybe I’m just from a different era.
Love to hear about your interesting experiences. When I was a young whippersnapper back in the 70s, I used to party with friends at clubs similar to the clubs you've commented on. However, my friends and I would beat feet when things started popping off! LOL Love your content sir, you're a great storyteller.😀
Love these stories mate
You have a talent for recounting things
All of these have been excellent, thanks for the post!
@@JimmyChangE16 Thanks Jimmy!
yes the good old days of clubs... Mid 1980s was interesting in my rough mining town the Neanderthal on the door deciding if you could enter was dependent upon what football team you supported or how hard you were 🤣
The biker clubs do put on some really big great gigs local to me it's a shame about the corruption and violence.
Been riding bikes for 36 years and had thought about getting into a club but then realised you just don't need all the rules because at the time there was still a few rockers on bikes.
A good film to watch on the subject is wild hogs it's pretty entertaining !
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Fascinating insight.Look forward to you next Security Stories.Thanks.
Yes this is all standard fare for the top clubs - I know a couple of rock hard old school bikers who joined up in the early days - but were so disgusted by the immoral behaviour that they soon left. Proper outlaws - wouldn't conform or follow the herd.
Good mates with the man who started the first UK chapter back in the late 60's.
Great channel brother - thanks for the fantastic content 👍
A pleasure!
Great channel! Love your insight & humble presentation.
Glad you enjoy it!
You got sone real balls, the bike gangs really are gangs and they will really go off on you, especially when liquor and speed gets involved. And yeah, isn’t it funny how regimented these outsider groups are, it reminds of the punk guys I knew back in the early 80s who were so about individuality except you had to have a certain haircut, jacket, boots, etc.
Love these stories!
Glad you like them!
Hey brother, keep em coming. Haters and trolls are losers!
@@bamahammer1372 Thanks Bama! Love the name.
Sweet been waiting for pt.7!
Interesting stuff and I totally believe you, ignore the doubters they do not understand how the world works because they obviously haven't seen much of it.
Used to work with a member of the big famous mcc, really nice bloke, could tell hed done some stuff in his life, but he was always alright with us. I tend to think the club members are a bit like coppers. Decent enough people when you're dealing with them individually, but when you get a few of them, they can start playing up for each other.
Do you mean the big famous MC?
@@moorshound3243 yeah, force of habit I grew up riding trials and watching Enduro. In that setting it's Motor Cycle Club (MCC), whereas in the context we're discussing here, it's Motorcycle Club (MC).
@steve5772 yep I know it's sad but it matters to some.
These stories are amazing!
Great interesting video
These are great! Come um coming!
I am guitar player former outlaw your assessment is spot on keep your mouth shut about things that don’t concern you and stay the outta our way because you just wouldn’t understand
Which chapter?
Love the two movie mentions - two of my favourites! I used to do the Black Widow tune when the local bikies rolled by back in the day (under my breath, it has to be said).
Good channel 👍🏻
'Be nice...until it's time not to be nice.'
Dalton, Cooler, Double Deuce
Ooh I‘m so here for it!
Love real Great stories, Awsome channel, thanks for telling them!
Glad you like them!
You are an incredible storyteller..
I am fully captivated!
Thank you ❤
A pleasure!
Read Sonny Barger’s book on the Hells Angels if you want to learn more about the 1% clubs General rules and their origins.
I’ve been a biker since 1980 and am a lone biker. But have come across my local chapter of the Hells Angels and another biker club in the past.
As long as you respect a 1% club I’ve found they won’t bother you.
I’ve also known a few bikers who were, or are, friends of the well known biker clubs (NOT gangs) and they are decent guys as long as you treat them with honesty and respect.
I really enjoy your videos keep them coming brother 👍 🇬🇧
@@nigeh5326 Sonny Barger.
Love your videos bud, from a fan in Ireland ☘️👍🏻
Thanks bud!
Very insightful, thanks for sharing
My pleasure!
The stories do sound unbelievable, to large part due to the amazing storytelling!
Thanks!
Interesting!
Nice one. Sounds like you're telling the truth 👊🏼
I lived next door to a one percenter club for about ten years. One thing you have to always remember about these clubs is how much they love to talk Sh*t. Maybe one guy, one time had to wear piss pants but by and large prospects watch the bikes, get beer, sweep, pull weeds, take someone's old lady to the dentist, pull more weeds, etc. It also depends upon day of the week , how much dope or alcohol they have consumed and a host of other factors. Their 'rules' are like Calvin Ball. For instance the club next to me had a strict rule about no illegal BS around the clubhouse. They then started dealing crank with a woman who installed a train horn on her truck and set it off on me every time I worked in the garden. See how those rules change? Its funny people fear these people so much but I can honestly say I talked more Sh*t to this particular club than anyone in history and I can still walk by their clubhouse without fear . That's the other thing. Most clubs know not to start up with the general law abiding public. There are rules for member, other clubs and the general public all allegedly very distinct from one another.
Sounds like a great story😅
Thank you 🙏🏻
Interesting stories and I don't think the biker scene in the UK is that much different than the U.S. You have to be careful if you are invited to a outlaw biker club's club house as if you aren't a patched member or prospect then you are expendable if you make a mistake like get in an argument with the first two. And unless you are a patch you are never really their friend as Gear Guy learned when he was trying to escort them outside during a fight.
And there you go, a lot to learn about women, as I’ve said before, no point in us normal men taking most women these days seriously, just build your wealth and your health, you get the bargaining power eventually
That sounds pretty negative. Maybe try being nice!
@@thatgearguy its reality… be nice of course… but be very selective when committing to women… you already noted that they love these nefarious gangs just for the thrill… before they are 25 they are also very nice, then they get influenced by this nasty “strong independent woman” narrative… that is for 95% of women…. After the age of 38 or so, I notice they are better again, after they find out they were fooled by feminism.
@@thatgearguycome on man. You know that never works. Women go for baddies.
Really interesting, honest stuff. Subscribed. Can I ask what brand your shirts are? Look quality and exactly my style.
Thanks. Sure thing! They are Superdry.
I bet there wasn't like garter snakes in that room.
They looked big and mean!
Really interesting, enjoying your channel/content, keep up the great work, very insightful. Some bikers in the pub in town i recently moved to, they were going on about patches, having to do stuff otherwise would lose patches etc (thought that was what primary school children did lol), walking around with jackets with sleaves missing etc, wannabe bikers etc, however it now makes sense, funnily enough one of the other punters did say, you don't want to get on wrong side of them, your video makes me understand a wee bit better now......thanks
Rugby ball😂😂😂😂 uncle monty quote 😂😂😂
I have a little club outside of Kansas City called the Double Deuce. It used to be a sweet deal.
Now, it's the kind of place that they sweep up the eyeballs after closing. (....) I need somebody to help me clean the place up…
@@Philo68 Well I have an achey back and bad eyesight but if the moneys real good..
@@thatgearguy 5,000 up front. 500 a night. Cash. We pay all medical expenses.
@@Philo68 really?
We should meet one day.
Been on the circuit.
Official & dark.
Thanks for the video, hope you are having a great day! - As for your detractors; there are people who are in-capable of believing anything, that they have not experienced themselves. - These people like to put others into boxes and categorize them, because it helps them to keep their false narrative going, as they struggle to relate to the world. - The rest of us appreciate your videos.
Thanks, you too!
Those builders sound imposing
Yes they probably spent most days doing hard, heavy, and dangerous physical work rather than just riding, smoking blumts, and drinking beer. Probably gave them an edge lol
Brother, if you haven’t already, please watch an Australian series called Mr Inbetween. You’ll love it guaranteed. All your stories are embodied within that series and the best part - there’s an actor that plays a supporting character called “Dave” a whom my friend, is a dead ringer for you - only Australian. Thank me later 👍🏽
I have seen it. Fantastic series!
@@thatgearguy awesome 🙌🏽 👍🏽👍🏽
Yessir
You rarely come across the biker clubs in the uk unless you know where to look.....ive seen a few HAMC groups out on the roads......saw a huge group of Outlaws a few weeks ago on the M6.......it was obviously way cooler in the 60s, 70s in the USA.....i ride bikes and I know what the cubs were about and are now about.....and Im also a veteran and have a bit of respect for their life but its a big big commitment to be a patched member.....leave them to it....
Wearing jeans that a bunch of men have peed on sounds a pretty childish and wimpy initiation process to me, and ganging up on one guy is not what I'd call manly. Not exactly nobility of spirit. All the same, very interesting to hear about such people - I just hope I never have the misfortune to meet them. I am very much enjoying your stories and reminiscences. Thank you.
@@SvetlanaVladimirova8590 yep the peepee on the jeans was a big nope from me!
Svetlana, they are not nice people. At a motorcycle rally once some slightly drunk guy dancing accidentally bumped into one of these MC members, and apologised, but they took him outside and beat him severely and his wife who asked them to stop. Real heroic men. Not. But like all bullies they thrive on intimidation.
@@rule3036 Yes, I fully agree. Such guys are not men at all in my opinion. They're not tough, they just play tough, and derive their so-called masculinity from being part of a pack. Jackals and hyenas all of them.
@@rule3036 like cops.
Yet another great story. have you ever thought about writing a book?
Maybe one day!
My friend was in a bike gang in Scotland but wanted to join a bigger rival club, he was allowed to join the club but only if he killed somebody from the gang he was with. He actually did the killing, but really was just set up, he got 15 years.
Wow. What a way to keep membership up! Not!!!
Living the dream…. 😂
I mean...good riddance? Exactly the type of guy who should be in prison.
In sure with the way you looked and the job you worked they probably thought you wanted to join up😂
I've been around 3 ,
1% clubs they were similar but different.
Clubs have sergeant at arms
& presidents not masters
The Hells Angels started in my hometown San Bernardino california
Have a good mate , when we were in 20s we’d see his older brother , high up in the Rebels. Various parties their presence ,bikies , was pretty ominous. Bit of danger for sure. But my mate said , they’re all just a bunch of followers that like wearing a costume. With their patches and all that. We’d get massive bags of cheekies to sell ,
The Eccys went garbage after the bikies monopolised that. Ruined it.
I was in the local lock up once and the dude I was sharing with remembered me, via my mate etc anyway he was waiting to be transported to remand for this body found in the creek behind the local club house. Can’t remember if he got charged but I remember him as kind of mentally feeble, a bit of a follower maybe. Probably got some proper nasty psychos in those clubs followed by equally nasty weaker followers. Waste of space.
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Biker gangs in South Africa are more chilled.... but when I see these videos of American bikers and their fat attitudes and this don't ever pass me attitudes is just stupid for me... I was a lone rider, superbike.. out at dawn and back by 9am...
They piss on the jeans. To make them rain and wind resistant.
Ewww!
12:54 that’s one HARD dude. F&CK that.
It's always so interesting to hear Europeans to discover American violence culture, which has been a feature of American (low) life for generations now. I grew up around gangs, both biker and street. So when you talk about how you can be friends with them, have them kick the shit out of you, and then go right back to being friends, I was like.... yea, that's how it works. So sorry about that. It's not our finest cultural export.
Ha thanks!
Clearly you've never traveled. It's way worse all over Europe. Nevermind the rest of the world. "Americans" I am one but without the quotes.
@cjackfly yeh its the Bl@ks
Cant even say it without youtube censoring
Maybe you should’ve put on a pair of white patent leather high heel shoes and danced on a table to the saxophone music (‘Tequila’ by The Champs).
Then maybe they would be your friends.
Only for £500
@@thatgearguy 😆
The builders would be fitter (better shape) than the bikers probably. The urinating on the jeans is disgusting.
So they're a bunch of losers? Got it.
you competed in the Canadian 2020 shooting games?
No, I do compete sometimes but the hat was actually a gift from Colt.
To be honest, after 30 odd years on the doors up here in Scotland, I’ve never had, seen or heard of bikers causing any issues. I’m not doubting you btw, it’s just not a thing up here as far as i can see. I’m also a biker btw.
Paul, I don’t suppose you know a guy called Paul Cutcliffe? AKA “Cutters”.
@@user-oh7tq4vn4w Sorry bud, dont know of him. It was quite unusual. It was mainly because this patched club had their clubhouse in the small town I was working in. After that I moved to a larger area and literally never met another patched biker again for 15 years!
@@thatgearguy We I have the Blue Angels up here, they’re naughty boys as well but they never seem to step outside their own places so to speak.
It’s too cold most of the time to be on a bike in Scotland most often the time, that’s probably it.
Isnt it sergeant-at-arms?
Might well be, I am no expert in military or biker rank!
Though of the Black Widows as started telling story. Don't realy get grown men fighting be it at football or on street. "He looked at me funny" 🤷♂
Like the storys & health.
How about a video on steroids..both the bouncers and punters love of them , uses , abuses good and bad
Just another cult.
yall brits couldnt get together and deal with the thugs on the beach?
Like you guys deal with the thugs looting your stores? This is keyboard warrior talk. There are thugs running rampant in both our countries and nobody is doing anything about it. We did a bit as security but it was a drop in the ocean.
@@thatgearguytechnology has us all crippled to be able to respond to any threats to our communities and the ruling class know it and take full advantage of it.
I don't really understand what they were employing you to do? their rules seem to prevent you doing anything to keep the peace
Break up fights, move them outside. But yes they had very poor rules. Letting the same guys back in the following week is never a good policy. It was a crazy place which is hard to describe. The doorstaff were allowed to drink! Once I was told off by the boss and he said "for the next month you can only have 2 pints per night".. scary punishment huh!
@@thatgearguy😂
Clubs not gangs.
Depends on their behaviour. A group of people doing organised illegal activity is a gang.
@@thatgearguy so the all the good honest hard working law abiding families who are signed up as members of Manchester United football "club" are automatically gang members because the club as a whole has it's drug dealers and gangster types working within it?
I'm almost 100% certain you have never been patched in to a real motorcycle club have you?
When you see those little shits running around London all dressed in black with masks on carrying big blades that is a gang. Gangs don't have clubhouses you can visit they don't have email addresses and they certainly don't have trade marked images and world wide corporate status.
Now go and cheer for you favourite football team and remember you must be a gang member because that team like any organisation has its fair share of bad people within it.
Have a nice day.
But what about all the charity work these 'club's do? 🤔
@@bigchiponmyshoulder7573 Feel free to make a video about it. My video was about my experience. As stated they were generally nice to me. I didnt see them do anything for charity. If I had I would mention it. This was one club in one place.
Club @@thatgearguy
Your red white dude
I'm sorry you only like Asian bikes. Hope things get better for ya 😂
Yes, the bikes that go round corners and accelerate. You know, like all the professionals use.
Surely things can't possibly get any better than that? They're reliable, go round corners, don't need huge seats to accommodate big fat hairy asses which echo and sound as sweet as an angel playing on a harp. Compared with .... 😂
The role is “Sergeant at Arms” same as in the Army.
99% of the 1%ers are rock solid 🇺🇸
Maybe in the USA. I have no experience of them.
The whole concept of the outlaw 1% biker gang is based on a con. They claim to be the 1% of the population that doesn't recognise authority or societal norms.
The reality is that 1% isn't a baseline it's a limit. They limit their numbers through gruesome initiation ceremonies etc. If they were to include everyone who disdained authority there'd be so many that the government would be forced to take action and crush them. So they have to keep their numbers small but if they all turned up at the same place you'd know about it.
There's a similar situation with the ' travelling community '.
You've been misinformed about what 1% means.
So what does it mean then? Give us the experience of your greater knowledge Wild Bill.
You really don't have a clue what you are talking about.
@@moorshound3243 But you can't say why, interesting.
@@allrounder7003 I don't have to as my actions speak for me. I was a prospect and I earnt my patches I spent real time being a club member and loved every minute of it.
Civilians can't talk smack about soldiers going to war because they really have no clue what they are talking about because they have not done it or lived it? Same with the club scene most people talking here have never ridden with a group of guys who would do anything for eachother at the drop of a hat, most people's so called friends and family wouldn't help you the way brothers in a club would help eachother.
Maybe go find out for yourself you never know you may have a great time?
Ride hard roll free....
Bikers are all talk. I would have all of them.
Well they did quite a bit of punching..
@@thatgearguyI've got a knuckle sandwich waiting for them
Haha your funny
@@moorshound3243 shut up wheels
That's a lot of Vaseline
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Feel free not to watch. Try Tiktok. Great for short attention spans.
The only thing more cringe than a guy in a biker gang is a guy who buys a harley and rides round, hoping people will think he's some sort of outlaw😂
They are outlaws in every sense. You have no clue.
I litterly subbed, listened for 3 mins, unsubbed and left, simply due to your high horse approach to other humans, simply because they are bikers.
But you had time to flounce 3 times in the comment section...
Biker gangs are for losers.
Well they certainly were not for me.
Have you got any stories when it comes to dealing with traveller's
that would be great to hear !!!!!!!!
I have and that is the next video coming. I actually filmed it last week and I just have to edit and upload!
@#£% the haters mate, anyone with a brain and the faintest 'experience' can sniff out the bollocks and BS artists and you are very, VERY clearly not a liar!
You just lost whatever creditability you may have had, total BULLSHIT
Yeah I'm struggling to believe this stuff.
Feel free not to watch bud.
This is pretty standard and well-known behaviour for any large outlaw biker gang.
No point in accusing the man of lying if you don't have any knowledge of this scene.