I agree. Darker skin tones arent that desaturated. They're much more reddish than people like to draw. (Trust me it took a while to figure it out myself lol)
I actually had a real good experience with someone helping me "fix" my art I followed them and they followed me. They asked if it was okay to help slightly redraw a piece I made that way I could improve my art even more. They were super respectful and gave good advice. And in the long run my art improved thanks to them. We need more "art fixers" like that who just want to help fellow artists improve. Not completely redo everything out of spite or it doesn't match up with their preferences.
That's not actually the same type of "art fixing". Redlining was what it was called. When requested other artists used red line over your art to point out some anatomy or etc improvements
I would call that constructive criticism or feedback. Which yes, is important to be open to. It is however vastly different then walking up to say, the Mona lisa and then redesigning it and saying. "There I fixed your trash". Claiming that you knew better or it was just wrong. You don't teach or help at all this way. You just are an asshole. My girlfriend is an amazing artist, and I'm a (super lazy and unmotivated) natural talent. When she designs I point out things to help. Like lighting, shadows, or the most recent example stitch lines in skulls. I don't belittle her, or tell her it's bad. Rather point out things she could improve, or may have missed in the anatomy. Most of the time I only find things because she specifically asks for criticism. I don't just walk up and tell her something is wrong, or bad. I genuinely look to help improve the piece at her request.
Zee says its because they are spreading the message "don't sexualize women", which it can be argued they are pushing the notion that big black women are unattractive
@@ajinasawor but she only draws fat black women, which implies she believes they are ugly. Poc and big people need more representation, but not with that label. Besides, what if women WANT to dress like that and be represented like that? It could be hurtful to them who want representation
AO Jin wearing something revealing is not in any way sexualizing yourself, because it can make you feel confident depending on your style. that mindset you have there is fucked. if you're doing a suggestive pose, that's sexual. it literally implies it in the name. but wearing revealing clothes is not always. and how zee goes about "fixing" art is making the characters and people they're "fixing" fat and black. that's silently saying that fat and/or black people are unattractive, and is racist in of itself.
@@princesspinhead4516 "but so wat?" excuse me? not everyone is fine with their body being sexualized. if someone wears revealing clothing it does NOT always sexualize their body. that's just depending on someone's mindset, which mind you, if you sexualize someone just because they wear revealing clothes: you're disgusting. your body shouldn't be sexualized unless that was your intent. like how i stated before on how people wear that type of clothing to feel confident, it can accentuate their body more, which can boost someone's confidence. accentuate and sexualization is different. i have never voiced my opinion on this out loud so i'm not great at explaining, but do know that it is NOT always sexualizing your body.
“Marisa is the least sexualized character in the touhou roster” I mean, touhou characters aren’t really sexualized in the main games anyway. The creator of the games even says he hates fanservice. If you look at the main game’s character sprites (the ones drawn by Zun for the bullet hell games), they’re so completely non-sexualized it’s ridiculous. I just think it’s weird that Zee seems obsessed with turning characters into PoC yet doesn’t realize that most anime characters (and touhou characters) aren’t even white to begin with...
>Marisa is the least sexualized character in the touhou roster That's a funnier joke than the guy who fell for a $3 Aya listing only to be hit with shipping fees jacking her up to $487
Not only is “fixing art” just wrong on its own but Zee is also drawing gross stereotypes of POC. They don’t understand how to properly paint black skin which makes the characters look lifeless and dull. And they’re not actually changing the features of these characters to make them appear more black such as the nose, lips, skull shape etc. Zee is actually CONTRIBUTING to stereotypic portrayals of POC in the art world. And their version of making someone heavier isn’t anatomically correct at all, it only makes the characters look like a blob, furthering the idea that heavier individuals are unattractive. I think it’s important as artists not to internationally make characters unattractive but to actually do the opposite, especially for underrepresented communities in art. Art informs the way people think, so if I am going to draw a heavier black woman im going to try to make her look as beautiful as she possibly can with all the features that she would have in real life.
True, it feels like the characters that they 'fix' are wearing blackface. And the thing about them drawing heavier people being anatomically incorrect is true as well tho art in anime style is rarely anatomically correct, however they shouldn't label this as fat acceptance because that's not it.
@@ashildrtheswift3028 Sadly, the racist cartoons look BETTER than her art. You know it's bad when your "representation" art makes bleak face look more appealing
Some people dont know how to properly paint or color black skin. I dont know how, I dont even know how to do caucasian skin, I dont like using color in my art anywho. Black and white for me hehe
I feel like it’s also worth noting that the creator of Touhou, ZUN, hasn’t sexualized any of his characters. It’s mostly the fandom being... itself. sincerely a touhou fan
I'm black and I feel a little offended how their color palette is just straight BLACK pitch black not brown, dark brown, etc. Ty for standing up for this man good on you!n
it is also very racist because most straight black skin are a kinda minority in the black community, where mostly in Equatorial Africa. This is very straightforward stereotype. There are various hues such as Tanned, golden-brown, dark brown, etc.
hey, question. this is unrelated but is it ok to have “warmness” to the persons knuckles and fingerprints and stuff? -from a kid trying to improve their art
@@keimosgd I don't see why not. I'm from a mexican town, and many of people's hands have that description, besides the fingertips. Even my hands have that. It could technically be considered an art style, similar to how people darken the noses on some drawings. I tend to do it as well.
If you pay attention to how dark skinned artists (emphasize on the s) and the media in general draw/depict dark skinned characters/people or literally themsleves in a not hyper realistic art style you’d know it’s a stylistic choice. The dark skinned characters in The Boondocks, Kipo, She-ra, AND the owl house (granted in toh they are witches) all didn’t include lighter palms and it’s not just shows. It’s not that uncommon for individual artists to not include it as well like Swan Creates and Hotea. Even Swoozie who hires his artists doesn’t have them Include lighter palms. It’s just a style thing, you either do or you don’t. Some people do and others don’t. Some might not know, but it doesn’t chance the fact it’s just as notable as if someone decided to include beauty marks, nails, knuckle creases, lip, tan lines, wrinkles, eyelid folds, and/or all 5 fingers (on an “able bodied” character) Reality ≠ Cartoony Art
A piece of art depicting a skinny Japanese girl is not fatphobic, nor does the artist have something against POCs. That's like going up to a straight couple and telling them to not be homophobic. What the hell Also if you want to represent POCs or plus size people in your drawings, the least you could do is not call it "fixing art" because it does not make it better in any way. "Fixing art" is correcting artistic problems in the work, usually WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE ORIGINAL ARTIST. Her work is just taking the character and making the skin tone ash gray and adding weight. It's really not a fix. The best thing to do is make your own art, because creativity is important.
I agree on everything you said but re-read your last sentence and ask yourself why they prefers changing other people's work to fit their own ideology instead of actually making something original
I love how he adds subtitles for people who can’t hear well or understand his accent Edit: after 3 years, i can understand his accent very well! My English has became better and now i can understand English in many different accents!
@@Lampey22 fair enough! And I have to say I’m sorry, I was a bit angry yesterday and decided to take it out on the internet instead of dealing with my issues myself, I could have worded my previous comment a lot more politely.
I used to care about Zee, but now I just put them in the "ridiculous representation" box with Furry Cocaine Addict Hatsune Miku Binder Thomas Jefferson
I feel like when they "desexualize" these characters and make them black and fat, I feel like they're saying that its not attractive and its "ugly" and it just makes me mad and sad
Okay, so a legitimate criticism on Zee's art, apart from the whole "fixing", their linework is sloppy, their shadows are also quite lacking cause you can't tell where the light source is. It's like they just see a character and tries to "fix" them but doesn't even bother to put in effort to make sure their work at the very least looks polished.
hahaha, lol i agree. god even my little sister redrew an anime character with good coloring on a piece of paper. tho she can onlg do that with references
So? Everyone can draw and post their art! Even if they cant draw that well. I think this Zee is a kid, doing fanart of characters from shows she likes and sharing her opinions. People should just let her be on her social networks or whatever
@@brendielahooha Her opinion is that all characters look better black and fat, which is inherently racist and discriminatory. She can share her opinions, but she certainly is eligible for and deserving of criticism. The same goes for her art.
@@brendielahooha Yes, they are sharing their opinions of other people's art. And other people are sharing their opinions of Zee's art. Why should they get a pass from having done to them what they do to everyone else? [Edit for pronouns]
@@nashonnashely6083Respecting pronouns has nothing to do with their „fixing art“. We shouldn’t choose whose pronouns to respect whose to not respect, pronouns are a word for reference.
It is rumored that the account was never hacked and the person who “hacked” it is the actual artist, such as comparing the old art to the newer ones such as the profile picture, it can be viewed to look quite similar and make the older art look drawn intentionally bad “It is easy for an experienced artist to seem like an amateur but not the other way around”
Its even easy if you are a bit good. I do sometimes doodle like im 5 because im so tired to really care about art, but just wanted to have fun doing doodles, and im not even a pro
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this Zee person is actually a troll and they faked getting their account hacked and their new posts are actually the content they make
I seriously hope that this would be true, because it's horrible to see what they're doing to this person, even if they did bad things they don't deserve what's happening to them
@@phantomgrape yeah. The way they color the skin (ashy, no proper reds), plus large noses and large bodies--plus blacklisting things you're supposedly apart of....seems like a troll account that's probably racist who wanted to make people dislike what they saw as a non-binary muslim.
2:20 You know, this is why I love your content. You speak on issues that you think are stupid with no shame, but even if it’s someone you don’t agree with, you still show them respect. Talk about a role model.
Marisa’s real art makes her appear to be a child (or at least a loli) so if Zee felt the need to “fix” Marisa they clearly thought there was something sexual in her design. Which is creepy as hell.
The image he showed was not official art, so don't use it as a reference. ZUN, the original creator,'s artstyle is... let's call it 'amateurish'. A common joke is that for drawing hands, he imagines a water balloon with sausages poking out from it. One of the characters is commonly depicted as having a striped dress. ZUN revealed later that her dress doesn't have stripes, he was just bad at depicting the way light hit the skirt as it fluttered in the breeze. With Touhou, any and all sexualization, personality, and legibility of image are due to fan artists being better than the original creator.
Thank you so much for addressing the sexy hijab issue, I have my own thoughts on it as a muslim but I don’t have the courage to voice it out. But yes, some of us muslim women with hijab do get offended when we see hijabis portrayed like that. Thank you🌼
you're welcome, i watched other videos and i saw no one talking about it, especially since its a big issue. there was no way for me to simply ignore it and pretend it didn't happen
if they touch touhou then they should be ready for the amount of hell they will experience touhou fandom is not to be taken easily as it's the biggest fandom and had a lot of "professional"
I can't agree with that. Taking a robber against their will and putting them in a building is "wrong" but that's what we do with criminals. Justice IS two wrongs making a right
I always thought the same thing because zeena afterall is an attention seeker so I'm not even suprised if it is her because I don't care 😐😑 I have alot of personal problems to worry about than to get concerned with all the latest drama on the art community 🙃
I think its just the original owner who started this and ending it pretending to be the hacker. The ""fixed"" art has similar line colors and thickness as the hacked art. The simple coloring is also very similar. Not only that but their typing style and how they post is nearly the same joking manner, format, and lower case. I just think it was a joke all along and once it got popular, they flipped the boat. I also have suspicions Zee themselves doesn't actually exist, and is just some made up person, but that is just one of my suspicions.
You know, after watching a RUclips video about a white college student pretending to be a sex-trafficked Asian woman with AIDs on Tumblr, I began to question if Zee was a white girl of college-age masquerading as a minority for internet points. It sounds silly, however, it doesn't sound that out of the ordinary for someone to make up a fake identity for clout.
The reason most anime characters are at very the least, thin and fit is because Japan has one of the most healthy people in the world aside from working themselves to death
Or maybe (hear me out) making plus sized anime characters won’t garner that much fans/audiences because they don’t look that attractive, compared to being thin and fit. Look at One Piece for example, the fat/big characters are usually depicted as a baddie.
@@nocturnal7345 it's a shame that the author of one piece makes almost all of the women designs are just pencil with boobs and the men have more diverse designs
You’re such a level headed guy who considers everyone’s feelings and intentions in these scenarios. It’s super welcome as so many people jump to conclusions nowadays.
Using sexual pictures as a ""punishment"", using porn to humiliate people who have done wrong... really reveals how these people view sex. Sexual things should be pleasant and consensual. It shows that these people view sexual things as violent--something they can weaponize to hurt people. That's not a healthy mindset to have about sex. That's the main problem. A healthy mind does not view sex as something you use to hurt people. You don't even have to respect or like someone, it's just about not viewing sex as a weapon.
tbh with ya, the guy maybe was really upset with such a living being existing at all. it's still bad. i'm not even ok with myself in terms of existence :,D
@@PBStriker101 If a guy's response to being upset, is to use things of a sexual nature to humiliate and "punish" whoever upset him, then that means the guy views sexual violence as an appropriate response to anger--he views sex as something humiliating, or something he can use as a weapon.
3:00 Touhou is a series of bullet hell games made by one person (ZUN). It is known for that "Bad Apple!!" video that keeps appearing on my recommendations every 5 seconds and its soundtracks, which are really good and are everywhere somehow
as a gay person i have completely just blocked lgbt on twitter. most people i know just expect me to shit on straight people or act "like a gay person". cant believe my own community wants equality but they're toxic themselves
@@thereisanidiotbelowthiscomment Yeah that's where I am at this point with The Discourse. I'll throw hands with terfs in the comments and fight the good fight, but I'd rather identity politics not be the only thing I see when I open social media.
I'm a little late to this party. But I absolutely hate this person's art style. What are they going for, ashy Baymax? Raggedy Anne as a scarecrow? I just think... you can't attack someone's art when you can't even draw legs, not that you should be going after other people's art anyway. This whole situation is an absolute mess. Zee is a mess. The people who had a hand in hacking and drawing that creepy art of Zee are a mess.
Which is why I'm not on Twitter and avoid it(and Facebook) like the plague. Tumblr may have its issues but goddamn at least it's not that bad. In my circles at least, I can't speak for everywhere else on that site.
Actually, I would give them my respect for the greatest bamboozling ever made. And then I'd proceed to incinerate them for turning such serious situations into a joke
tbh i wouldn't be surprised if it was a troll all along, like yeah ppl like this definitely do exist but it's just so insane??? like surely, SURELY it's just some dude fucking with us, right? it is the internet after all
Finally someone who just doesn't immediately go "Oh yest zee's account got hacked". I mean, I don't support what they were doing in any way but there's, you know, a limit, I guess?
Who wouldn't want them to get hacked?!! Now we won't be hearing anymore of their annoying tweets, but at the same time I don't support a lot of the things the "hacker" is doing
Same. The porn artwork of her was unnecessary and vile. Especially because her avi has a hijab on. It's a form of mockery to Islam and it doesn't sit right with me at all. These people that applaud the hackers and made those hentai artworks honestly sit at the same table as Zee, as far as being low goes.
My thoughts: 1. It's one thing to draw a fictional character you like sexy out of love... but drawing a real person in a sexual context to *demean* them or to get back at them sounds like revenge porn and it's insanely gross. Don't use sexuality/porn to take revenge on people, it's gross. 2. Hijab is symbol of modesty in Islam, so drawing hijab in a sexual way is insulting to muslims. Literally hijabis don't want to be sexualized. Stop it.
I wear a hijab because my modesty protects me from being sexualized, but the hacker's posts make me vomit. It's the literal opposite of the meaning of a hijab. It's like seeing a nun be sexualized. Its against what they stand for.
Feels kinda shitty to do shit like this. "Good job hacker! I was about to harass this person by sending them unsolicited gore porn to them! But you beat me to it by havking their account, good job you decent citizen!" just kinda tells you a lot about the people who are so happy about this. Now I don't like the original artist, but still. Gotta admit the hackers and people cheering it on aren't good folks either lmao.
I 100% agree, it’s disgusting that someone making porn art of a female presenting person in a hijab is being considered “heroic”. I don’t like this artist, but they didn’t deserve to have this happen to them, no one does. It also just shows how predatory the people celebrating this hacker are.
Yeah, I would have preferred that they left on their own or leave their toxic behavior behind and instead make original art and characters, shitty or not, the quality of their art doesn't matter in this context.
"Everyone deserves some basic fundamental respect, even if you disagree with them." That’s exactly right. It's so easy to lose track of the people on the other side of your screen, but we need to remember to be accountable for how interact with other people, because our interactions matter. I may not have agreed with everything Zee did, but they don't deserve this.
The redrawing of the touhou character looks like she's wearing blackface. I'm not trying to be abrasive here but the redesign is awful. There are black characters you can take reference from to make your design look somewhat serious/ competent. The fact that the face looks like a matrioshka doll, the hair colour is still blonde despite this being a black character now and the lack of feet could very well be conscious design decisions. But to me it looks more like a lazy attempt at race flipping a character, so much so that she couldn't even be bothered making her look like the race she intended to change her to.
that is the most accurate description for the "fixed" art. this is why i do not use twitter at all...well, i dont use much social media to begin with, but still.
I really love that he always stays so respectful and calm while talking about stuff like this. He explains the situation perfectly and even points out that _both_ sides are doing shit that isn't ok (one more than the other which is also something he gets across really good) I just generally love your videos covering controversies like this. thank you for your great work, I'm excited for future videos. Keep being awesome❤ Edit: The subtitles are awesome, Even if I personally don't need them. it's great that you're so inclusive and I find it nice to be able to just read along (My attention span is comparable to a squirrel so it also keeps me focused). Thank you for taking the time to add them, my friend has a small yt channel and I know how much work goes into "small" details like this.
@Esteban Outeiral Dias It is really catastrophic when a robber said it is okay to rob a thief and shot him. Crime is never be justified at any situation because that againts what we said as civilized
true, but that's what was coming. its basically a taste of their own medicine but at times worse. they were "fixing" art by messing with art of real people in some of their drawings.
@@artistcar63 Because 'they' is used in a plural setting. It just sounded weird to me that he was refering to that person as they. People should just come up with a new pronoun or something, 'they sounds weird
@Monsieur Speedwagon I did read the bible but did you? It EXPLICITLY says he is the son of God. He isn’t literally God because God isn’t human, but you believe what you want idgaf
I feel like they're a troll... I mean, Zeena claims that they're a lot of things many people hate and prejudice. Lgbtq+, black people, hijab wearing muslim, overweight people... I think they're just a troll looking for attention, and by doing those horrible stuff under the name of those labels, people can hate Zena more (thus getting more attention) AND put more hate on the community Zeena put on themself in...
I think that Zeena is a good business woman or a man, because she attracted so much attention, imagine how much money she made from all people who hates her
9:51, kudos to that person, many of those other people shown are doing even worse things than Zee did, yet believe they're better. It's twitter so I'm not even surprised
Fans: have entire head cannons about character's races, even have widely accepted ones (such as Sero being Latino and Mina being black from MHA) Zeena: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that
@@SafetyKitten well it matters to those who are underrepresented in media. People like to believe that Sero is Latino because Latinos do not have much representation (that is good as opposed to just being a token stereotype) and people like to believe that Mina is black for similar reasons. It also makes it easier for people to relate to such characters. If you don’t need to pretend a character is your own race, then that’s good for you. But don’t shit on those who are forced to
I love the fact that you didn't break at all. You used their preferred pronouns all the way to the end. Good artist, good entertainer, good man. Also as a starting artist, I don't know any of these people but posting hentai parody of a real person without their consent is kinda messed up, and this is coming from a guy who loves hentai
@@karlmark9967 I'm also trying to be a hentai artist, and it's hard as shit to learn anatomy and other things but I guess that's expected. Good luck to you, fellow hentai loving artist.
I would say its a style to draw Dekon Legs. But the way they are drawn with super unclean lines and drawing everyone in an ugly rough way while calling everyone art as horribly ugly and disproportionate and with bad ugly shading when they can't even add shading in their own art work is shitty
Dinoboy Skittles that’s not how karma works. Karma is the energy you put out into the universe and it always comes back to you times three. So hoping something bad happens to someone just because they annoy you? That comes back on you, not them.
Hydreigon No, Zee has internalized a lot of racism and sexism, so they believe that this is “helping” others. That’s miseducation not batshit crazy. Batshit crazy is hacking into someone’s account and taking the time to make gross art of that portrays a woman in a spiritual head covering in sexually degrading way. That’s disgusting.
Ok honestly i don't like them for "fixing" art like that and overall their mentality about how skinny asian (or caucasian) women should look like. Or even desexualize real people even if they are hot in real life, I mean not everyone is a potato like me. But for me personally even if i don't like them or agree with what they're doing, hacking and cyberbullying is still a no go.
@Al X. Andra everything can be excusable if it's done to someone you don't like Like Zee is a dummy but no one deserves to be sexually harassed as "revenge" Also, having girls in hijab in such sexual situations can be very disrespectful to Muslim girls tbh
This is why I love your videos, you’re very level headed and respectful when approaching these topics. What this artist did was messed up either way, but this is wrong to go this level. It’s one thing to show their hypocrisy with the blocked things. But to do this? It’s kinda pathetic. I’m not Muslim, but you made a very valid point about how this is religious discrimination. It actually makes me think about how nuns or rather their wear get overly sexualized in a lot of NSFW stuff. I’m actually curious about people who are religious their thoughts on this. I wonder if someone paid for an artist to draw these things, I doubt it’s Zee, unless it is and this an attempt to try to get viral...
As a muslim girl who wears hijab, I felt disappointed towards both ZeenaFixArt and the Hacker. Both of them are bad. Zeena seems suspicious for me since her bio was "Muslim on a Crusade" which seems unfitting. When I first look at her Twitter screenshot from my friends, I thought she was just a troll and trying hard to be a part of minorities (such as have darker skin, being a muslim and a part of LGBT). Her drawings also looks intentionally mean to be 'bad', don't you think so? As for the Hacker, I don't think the account was hacked in the first place. All of this was just a drama to make them have all of the attention. (at least that what I thought). But even if the Hacker is real or not, drawing hijab porn is truly disgusting. When I addressed the issue about hijab porn, people always said that "Well, this is internet, don't be a crybaby about it. There were many other worse things out there", "They don't draw you, but they draw this worse person who wears hijab so they put the hijab to make everyone know it was her and make fun of it", " If nun can get sexualized, why hijab can't?" and so on... Well, I have been on the internet for a long time. I know I couldn't stop anybody to do what they're doing but it doesn't change how sad and disgusted I feel. To whoever make sexualized hijabis, nuns or any other religious beliefs, you should know we never like to see our religion and modest identity being made as a plaything and arts like that. Boi I need to rest from internet for a while. Sorry for writing a rant
@@gezz555 I feel you sister. I usually just scroll ahead and ignore this sort of things. But people should seriously stop normalizing this. Is blatant disrespect to the entire religious community. Is not okay. I've heard of Zeena, did came across her acc a few times but as an artist myself, I wholly disagree with her philosophy of 'correcting' other peoples art. I mean, is ok to make a version/fanart of your own that is based off the character but what she's doing is just insulting and it completely turn me off. To me, if you're giving any sort of attention to this sort they'll love it even more, doesn't matter if is negative or positive. Is better to ignore trolls and attention seekers. Better yet just block them.
the person acted like a savior to people who never even cared in the first place and if your message is bad and people are just hating on you you are bound to hit the nail in the coffin at some point
Both adds in subtitles for the HoH and people who struggle with accents And respects the pronouns even while not agreeing with the person. Major respect.
ok I have a gut feeling that Zee never got hacked, but even if that's true I still dislike that the "hacker" is perpetuating toxic behavior on Twitter. It's pretty sick and twisted and feels like a gross "Social Experiment" if this is the case
Didn't see this until now, and only saw the of video, but I'm so glad that you went out of your way to say that this went too far- It sucked that a lotta the people I saw criticizing them were doing such reprehensible stuff :[
They mentioned how Marisa was the "least sexualized character" in the series, but in reality practically NONE of the characters are sexualized in the series lol When it comes to sexual content, Touhou is one of the cleanest series out there not even bringing up sexuality, as long as you stick with the official stuff that is
facts, i have seen some youtubers that are friends of mine get their channel hacked and it didn't seem nice at all. loosing something you've worked hard for is never nice at all.
@@Charcoalcrackbaby That still doesn't mean they deserved to be hacked, sexualized (especially if they are Muslim), sent GORE P0RN, and literally anything else Twitter does to people they don't like. Two wrongs don't make a right. Hacking them did nothing.
The takeover of her account is like those moments in TV shows when the current villain gets attacked by a villain from another season and you suddenly begin rooting for the old antagonist even though you know you'll be against them again by the time of their next appearance.
Tbh, they're both in the wrong. Zee changed people's art without permission just because they didn't like it. The hacker sexualized their person without consent and misgendered them.
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 you cant fight fire with fire, lose all your respect for her all you want, but dont encourage sexualizing and attacking other religions thx
Sexualization is a point but rightful gendering or whatever you'd want to call it is a form of respect, which is always earned and not an entitlement. This person is lacking in it, as it's easy to see.
I know that what Zee did was really annoying, irritating, and I know that Zee was kind of a jerk. But I don't think anyone deserves to have their account hacked, then constantly misgendered, have nsfw artworks posted of them, and have their privacy invaded. There's a line and this hacker has crossed it multiple times...
I absolutely hate that so many people think that "oh this person did something extremely horrible, let me just MISGENDER THEM." Like respecting someone's pronouns isn't just a privilege that can get taken away once someone fucks up
That feel when you're watching a RUclipsr and he's all like: "Welcome back, I hope y'all are having a good day." And even though you're not really having a good day, you nod back because he just made your day. Thank You.
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When they “fix skin” it doesn’t even look like a poc. They draw them so ashy and almost burnt looking.
I agree. Darker skin tones arent that desaturated. They're much more reddish than people like to draw.
(Trust me it took a while to figure it out myself lol)
Most of them honestly look almost green. That is what's killing me.
Also for fucks sake OUR PALMS ARE NOT BLACK
@@craftypixel7992 ugh. Y E S! Making the palms white isnt whitewashing- its fkn anatomy-
Zeena needs to follow cetaphil
Only problem is the lotion isn’t black or brown
I actually had a real good experience with someone helping me "fix" my art I followed them and they followed me. They asked if it was okay to help slightly redraw a piece I made that way I could improve my art even more. They were super respectful and gave good advice. And in the long run my art improved thanks to them. We need more "art fixers" like that who just want to help fellow artists improve. Not completely redo everything out of spite or it doesn't match up with their preferences.
That's not actually the same type of "art fixing". Redlining was what it was called. When requested other artists used red line over your art to point out some anatomy or etc improvements
I would call that constructive criticism or feedback.
Which yes, is important to be open to. It is however vastly different then walking up to say, the Mona lisa and then redesigning it and saying. "There I fixed your trash". Claiming that you knew better or it was just wrong. You don't teach or help at all this way. You just are an asshole.
My girlfriend is an amazing artist, and I'm a (super lazy and unmotivated) natural talent.
When she designs I point out things to help. Like lighting, shadows, or the most recent example stitch lines in skulls. I don't belittle her, or tell her it's bad. Rather point out things she could improve, or may have missed in the anatomy. Most of the time I only find things because she specifically asks for criticism.
I don't just walk up and tell her something is wrong, or bad. I genuinely look to help improve the piece at her request.
@@HauntingSpectre epic bf/gf can we give a round of applause please
Totally agreed.
@@HauntingSpectre I hope she keeps you, You seem very amazing
When I looked at Zee's account, I felt offended as a Muslim, an artist, and an asian :(
me too :(
Same here *take the flamethrower point at Zee*
@@isyraf9989 Killing ppl isn't very nice tho :/
Same 😭
Same.
imagine if zee sees me in real life, im a skinny Asian girl
“lemme fix you real quick”
“wot”
well, now you're fat and black !
@@komaeyas LOL this made me laugh so hard my mom came in my room and asked me why I’m laughing
As someone who's skinny and an (Southeast) Asian.
*_WELCOME TO THE CLUB_*
@@CrystalWings12 the “if zee sees us irl they’l try to fix us” club?
*pulls out burger, fake tan and rope*
Zee says its because they are spreading the message "don't sexualize women", which it can be argued they are pushing the notion that big black women are unattractive
having revealing costume and suggestive pose whether you fat or slim is sexualizing
@@ajinasawor but she only draws fat black women, which implies she believes they are ugly. Poc and big people need more representation, but not with that label. Besides, what if women WANT to dress like that and be represented like that? It could be hurtful to them who want representation
AO Jin wearing something revealing is not in any way sexualizing yourself, because it can make you feel confident depending on your style. that mindset you have there is fucked. if you're doing a suggestive pose, that's sexual. it literally implies it in the name. but wearing revealing clothes is not always. and how zee goes about "fixing" art is making the characters and people they're "fixing" fat and black. that's silently saying that fat and/or black people are unattractive, and is racist in of itself.
llimu guy it’s sexualizing. That’s it. I wear revealing clothes and I know it sexualizes my body but so wat?
@@princesspinhead4516 "but so wat?" excuse me? not everyone is fine with their body being sexualized. if someone wears revealing clothing it does NOT always sexualize their body. that's just depending on someone's mindset, which mind you, if you sexualize someone just because they wear revealing clothes: you're disgusting. your body shouldn't be sexualized unless that was your intent. like how i stated before on how people wear that type of clothing to feel confident, it can accentuate their body more, which can boost someone's confidence. accentuate and sexualization is different. i have never voiced my opinion on this out loud so i'm not great at explaining, but do know that it is NOT always sexualizing your body.
Man if I had a portrait of myself and zee “fixed” it I would cry
That means you are sexy lol. I don't mean any weird intention.
@@Dat-Doomba haha. Win win
Same
Same oop-
Same
Artist: **draws something**
Zee: Is that like, a personal attack or something?
When you put it that way, in my opinion you make her sound like a karen
@@cocoaclaire6182 it is lol
So they're a artist Karen?
zee: and i took that personally
Me: **draws a straight white girl OC**
Zeena: “so you have chosen death.”
“Marisa is the least sexualized character in the touhou roster” I mean, touhou characters aren’t really sexualized in the main games anyway. The creator of the games even says he hates fanservice. If you look at the main game’s character sprites (the ones drawn by Zun for the bullet hell games), they’re so completely non-sexualized it’s ridiculous. I just think it’s weird that Zee seems obsessed with turning characters into PoC yet doesn’t realize that most anime characters (and touhou characters) aren’t even white to begin with...
>Marisa is the least sexualized character in the touhou roster
That's a funnier joke than the guy who fell for a $3 Aya listing only to be hit with shipping fees jacking her up to $487
The ones who sexualized Touhou is the fanarts. Their knowledge for Touhou only for the fanworks
@@Limacinablues tbh that's 90% of touhou though is fanwork
Reimu's armpits✨
Person who was in the touhou community, they're aren't even sexualized no matter what they are
How to fix art:
>Everybody is black
>Random constant blushing
>E L E P H A N T L E G S
They used to draw svasticas and vandalize art, now they make people black and fat.
See how they evolve
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And also the same height for all characters, 19'11
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Not only is “fixing art” just wrong on its own but Zee is also drawing gross stereotypes of POC. They don’t understand how to properly paint black skin which makes the characters look lifeless and dull. And they’re not actually changing the features of these characters to make them appear more black such as the nose, lips, skull shape etc. Zee is actually CONTRIBUTING to stereotypic portrayals of POC in the art world. And their version of making someone heavier isn’t anatomically correct at all, it only makes the characters look like a blob, furthering the idea that heavier individuals are unattractive. I think it’s important as artists not to internationally make characters unattractive but to actually do the opposite, especially for underrepresented communities in art. Art informs the way people think, so if I am going to draw a heavier black woman im going to try to make her look as beautiful as she possibly can with all the features that she would have in real life.
True, it feels like the characters that they 'fix' are wearing blackface. And the thing about them drawing heavier people being anatomically incorrect is true as well tho art in anime style is rarely anatomically correct, however they shouldn't label this as fat acceptance because that's not it.
This is a perfect comment 👌
The way they draw "black" characters reminds me strongly of racist cartoons
Also remember when they “desexualizes” mha characters? What do they do to “desexualize” the characters? They make them black and fat. Yikes....
@@ashildrtheswift3028 Sadly, the racist cartoons look BETTER than her art. You know it's bad when your "representation" art makes bleak face look more appealing
Omg the skin tones they used for the “fixed art” bother me so much. Like why is it so ashy and grey looking?? That’s not how black people look...
Ikr
some of the skin tones even look green-ish
Probably a 2 year old drawing
Some people dont know how to properly paint or color black skin. I dont know how, I dont even know how to do caucasian skin, I dont like using color in my art anywho. Black and white for me hehe
Like most "fixers" they remake them their own skin tone.
Beautiful quotes:
‘Don’t be racist, just hate everyone equivalently’
there would be no racism, if all races died.
@@keimosgd alright, can someone call light yagami?
@@kirinsatsu wait
@@keimosgd hehehe
@@kirinsatsu the connection is kinda bad- wait what
I feel like it’s also worth noting that the creator of Touhou, ZUN, hasn’t sexualized any of his characters. It’s mostly the fandom being... itself. sincerely a touhou fan
+1
Uh huh, ZUN sees his characters as characters
i agree
Same here, he doesn’t really do anything with most of them being female outside of having most of them wear dresses and have some theme titles
Exactly this, Zee seems to gain her infos on a lot of hentai pages - not the real origins lol.
I'm black and I feel a little offended how their color palette is just straight BLACK pitch black not brown, dark brown, etc. Ty for standing up for this man good on you!n
Kinda forgot ty
it is also very racist because most straight black skin are a kinda minority in the black community, where mostly in Equatorial Africa. This is very straightforward stereotype. There are various hues such as Tanned, golden-brown, dark brown, etc.
yes it feels so weird seeing a nearly green person portrayed as a black person , it’s like they’ve never been around black people
Right
Tf are those toilet colors lol
@Madeleine Schuster it literally does not matter.
I noticed the characters they "fix" have black palms. Palms don't have melanin and are always pale.
hey, question. this is unrelated but is it ok to have “warmness” to the persons knuckles and fingerprints and stuff? -from a kid trying to improve their art
@@keimosgd I don't see why not. I'm from a mexican town, and many of people's hands have that description, besides the fingertips. Even my hands have that. It could technically be considered an art style, similar to how people darken the noses on some drawings. I tend to do it as well.
@@acidmilkshakes115 thanks!
@@KC-wx1ty oh ok!
If you pay attention to how dark skinned artists (emphasize on the s) and the media in general draw/depict dark skinned characters/people or literally themsleves in a not hyper realistic art style you’d know it’s a stylistic choice.
The dark skinned characters in The Boondocks, Kipo, She-ra, AND the owl house (granted in toh they are witches) all didn’t include lighter palms and it’s not just shows.
It’s not that uncommon for individual artists to not include it as well like Swan Creates and Hotea. Even Swoozie who hires his artists doesn’t have them Include lighter palms.
It’s just a style thing, you either do or you don’t. Some people do and others don’t. Some might not know, but it doesn’t chance the fact it’s just as notable as if someone decided to include beauty marks, nails, knuckle creases, lip, tan lines, wrinkles, eyelid folds, and/or all 5 fingers (on an “able bodied” character)
Reality ≠ Cartoony Art
Fixing peoples art is rude.
But sending people gore and death threats is gross and uncalled for in any situation.
Don’t forget sexualizing them
Unless its a pedo or a zoo
No, it’s called for and very funny
@aenari it absolutely is
@aenari no I don’t think I will :)
A piece of art depicting a skinny Japanese girl is not fatphobic, nor does the artist have something against POCs. That's like going up to a straight couple and telling them to not be homophobic. What the hell
Also if you want to represent POCs or plus size people in your drawings, the least you could do is not call it "fixing art" because it does not make it better in any way. "Fixing art" is correcting artistic problems in the work, usually WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE ORIGINAL ARTIST. Her work is just taking the character and making the skin tone ash gray and adding weight. It's really not a fix. The best thing to do is make your own art, because creativity is important.
I agree with all you said, but I wouldn't call that plus sized, that's straight up obese.
Weight and facial features that look like a coala bear. But she also removes something: feet
@@moimoiyoop resembling a human being is too sexy
I agree on everything you said but re-read your last sentence and ask yourself why they prefers changing other people's work to fit their own ideology instead of actually making something original
funny part is that asians are POC 😭😭
I love how he adds subtitles for people who can’t hear well or understand his accent
Edit: after 3 years, i can understand his accent very well! My English has became better and now i can understand English in many different accents!
Or.. you know... HoH people?
@@tiredtaxidermist obviously yes, but forigners feel so insecure about their English speaking: me, for example :,)
@@Lampey22 fair enough! And I have to say I’m sorry, I was a bit angry yesterday and decided to take it out on the internet instead of dealing with my issues myself, I could have worded my previous comment a lot more politely.
@@tiredtaxidermist no problem :)
Love seeing a wholesome comment thread.
I used to care about Zee, but now I just put them in the "ridiculous representation" box with Furry Cocaine Addict Hatsune Miku Binder Thomas Jefferson
I thought it was a binder with Trump's face
LMAO!
Please don’t remind me about Miku Binder Thomas Jefferson
What are those words combination even mean?
the WHAT
I feel like when they "desexualize" these characters and make them black and fat, I feel like they're saying that its not attractive and its "ugly" and it just makes me mad and sad
Remember when art was an escape from drama? I miss those days.
Same dude same. Now, every part of internet has some drama
@@gezz555 We will have drama over fruits in the future
Live in a cave without wifi, that's the only way to escape it
@@maxs-lz4pn nah then youll get into drama with the criters there and ultimately with yourself
@@maxs-lz4pn there is no escape from drama. Face it.
Okay, so a legitimate criticism on Zee's art, apart from the whole "fixing", their linework is sloppy, their shadows are also quite lacking cause you can't tell where the light source is. It's like they just see a character and tries to "fix" them but doesn't even bother to put in effort to make sure their work at the very least looks polished.
hahaha, lol i agree. god even my little sister redrew an anime character with good coloring on a piece of paper. tho she can onlg do that with references
Her art style is also just entirely unappealing, although that’s a bit subjective.
So? Everyone can draw and post their art! Even if they cant draw that well. I think this Zee is a kid, doing fanart of characters from shows she likes and sharing her opinions.
People should just let her be on her social networks or whatever
@@brendielahooha Her opinion is that all characters look better black and fat, which is inherently racist and discriminatory. She can share her opinions, but she certainly is eligible for and deserving of criticism. The same goes for her art.
@@brendielahooha Yes, they are sharing their opinions of other people's art. And other people are sharing their opinions of Zee's art. Why should they get a pass from having done to them what they do to everyone else?
[Edit for pronouns]
Why do their black characters look like Schnitzel from Chowder
Thats offensive to Schnitzel...
"Rada rada rada! Rada rada rada
rada rada."
*Rada?!*
Lol Schnitzelsona
@@unicornburgers302 *w h e e z e*
*w a i t , I -*
the amount of respect i give this man, the subtitles and the pronouns hes amazing and is a person who does think of others
But Zeena gets the respect for "Fixing Art"? Man, please😑😑😑😑😑
@@nashonnashely6083 what are you talking about?
@@nashonnashely6083Respecting pronouns has nothing to do with their „fixing art“. We shouldn’t choose whose pronouns to respect whose to not respect, pronouns are a word for reference.
I died at "did they block hazbin hotel because all of the characters are skinny?" tweet. 😂😂😂😂
Hazbin Hotel is a good show tho 😂
@bleh Same, I'm a huge fan of that show :)
@@moimoiyoop to be fair its only a pilot so far
@@dbzcupcake Pretty much yeah
It's just the pilot for now
Habzin hotel just sucks tho.
It is rumored that the account was never hacked and the person who “hacked” it is the actual artist, such as comparing the old art to the newer ones such as the profile picture, it can be viewed to look quite similar and make the older art look drawn intentionally bad
“It is easy for an experienced artist to seem like an amateur but not the other way around”
Its even easy if you are a bit good. I do sometimes doodle like im 5 because im so tired to really care about art, but just wanted to have fun doing doodles, and im not even a pro
All these "never hacked" theories went out the window cause the account is now suspended lmao
@@thedarkabyss100 except she would report it to be suspended as she wants it to go down if she is pretending that it was hacked
So who is man responsible behind this drama ?
@@creepypotato2667 i dont think anyone will reply back, this was like 2 month ago, dude.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this Zee person is actually a troll and they faked getting their account hacked and their new posts are actually the content they make
I seriously hope that this would be true, because it's horrible to see what they're doing to this person, even if they did bad things they don't deserve what's happening to them
@@hekaterinedragon8776 I agree, like there was people praising it... I cant even tell whos really human any more
@@cocoaclaire6182 those people are fucked, but what do you expect from Twitter?
@@phantomgrape yeah. The way they color the skin (ashy, no proper reds), plus large noses and large bodies--plus blacklisting things you're supposedly apart of....seems like a troll account that's probably racist who wanted to make people dislike what they saw as a non-binary muslim.
right??? her are definitely isn’t even coming from a genuine place.
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You know, this is why I love your content. You speak on issues that you think are stupid with no shame, but even if it’s someone you don’t agree with, you still show them respect. Talk about a role model.
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Marisa’s real art makes her appear to be a child (or at least a loli) so if Zee felt the need to “fix” Marisa they clearly thought there was something sexual in her design. Which is creepy as hell.
I thought that little girl looked like an angel, why change it? Or worse, why think there's any sexual intent behind it??
zun's art in the official games arent sexualized.
@@CherryBlossom-xf7zp I guess because Zee is a black supremacist.
The image he showed was not official art, so don't use it as a reference.
ZUN, the original creator,'s artstyle is... let's call it 'amateurish'. A common joke is that for drawing hands, he imagines a water balloon with sausages poking out from it.
One of the characters is commonly depicted as having a striped dress. ZUN revealed later that her dress doesn't have stripes, he was just bad at depicting the way light hit the skirt as it fluttered in the breeze.
With Touhou, any and all sexualization, personality, and legibility of image are due to fan artists being better than the original creator.
@Angry Man Ax? try the Trotsky style, a pickaxe!
Thank you so much for addressing the sexy hijab issue, I have my own thoughts on it as a muslim but I don’t have the courage to voice it out. But yes, some of us muslim women with hijab do get offended when we see hijabis portrayed like that. Thank you🌼
you're welcome, i watched other videos and i saw no one talking about it, especially since its a big issue. there was no way for me to simply ignore it and pretend it didn't happen
There u go sis! 👊💥
Ikr. Like, do people think that they're just stuck on our heads....?
ikr
I'm muslim too and i can't believe she is muslim too....
I SAW KOISHI IN THE THUMBNAIL AND I WAS READY TO CRY
tbh they dont deserve to be in the 2hu fandom they get tenshi's boot
if they touch touhou then they should be ready for the amount of hell they will experience touhou fandom is not to be taken easily as it's the biggest fandom and had a lot of "professional"
Yes
Old saying goes, "Two wrongs don't make a right..."
blabla BLA
It might be wrong, but it’s not wrong to laugh.
blabla BLA 👀
old saying goes, "if you don't want to get punch in the face stop punching people"
GarethXL I- where’s the lie tho-
I can't agree with that. Taking a robber against their will and putting them in a building is "wrong" but that's what we do with criminals. Justice IS two wrongs making a right
I think zeena and hacker is same person
yes that's what i feel deep down, they just switched the account around to surprise everyone.
That’s what I think too
At first I thought the same thing
I think so too at first... but then there are dm screenshots of zeena before getting hacked asking for advice how to not get doxxed or hacked.
I always thought the same thing because zeena afterall is an attention seeker so I'm not even suprised if it is her because I don't care 😐😑 I have alot of personal problems to worry about than to get concerned with all the latest drama on the art community 🙃
Somebody: draws a skinny character
Zee: *YOUR FATPHOBIC*
I just thought of fat e gadd (from Luigi's mansion) and oh no!
Ikr
Me: *draws myself in an stylized art style*
Someone: *“fixes” my art*
Me: **draws ibuki**
Zee: OMG YOUR SO FCKING FATPHOBIC I WILL FIX THIS UGLY SHIT
Meanwhile, someone called me fatphobic AND skinnyphobic for telling the real definition of body positivity. Yeah, ain't nobody got time fo dat.
"If you hate everyone equally you're not racist"
-papa franku
I think its just the original owner who started this and ending it pretending to be the hacker. The ""fixed"" art has similar line colors and thickness as the hacked art. The simple coloring is also very similar. Not only that but their typing style and how they post is nearly the same joking manner, format, and lower case. I just think it was a joke all along and once it got popular, they flipped the boat. I also have suspicions Zee themselves doesn't actually exist, and is just some made up person, but that is just one of my suspicions.
I think it's possible too. I thought it was a troll to begin with.
shit but, I type the same way Zee types too tho lmao
ruclips.net/video/zC8XnTs-E-A/видео.html for u
This is just like Hitler killing himself lol
You know, after watching a RUclips video about a white college student pretending to be a sex-trafficked Asian woman with AIDs on Tumblr, I began to question if Zee was a white girl of college-age masquerading as a minority for internet points.
It sounds silly, however, it doesn't sound that out of the ordinary for someone to make up a fake identity for clout.
The reason most anime characters are at very the least, thin and fit is because Japan has one of the most healthy people in the world aside from working themselves to death
Lol, work death over there staring at you while you work your ass off.
@@kw4584 stroken't
Or maybe (hear me out) making plus sized anime characters won’t garner that much fans/audiences because they don’t look that attractive, compared to being thin and fit. Look at One Piece for example, the fat/big characters are usually depicted as a baddie.
@@nocturnal7345 it's a shame that the author of one piece makes almost all of the women designs are just pencil with boobs and the men have more diverse designs
@@kw4584 omg ikr
oop 👀☕
@Thumin
I like your videos and your art style, keep up the good work. 👍🏼
OMG IT’S THUMIN OMG
OMG I LOVE YOUR ART STYLE!!!
*sips tea*
Awww hi Thumin 💚🐰
You’re such a level headed guy who considers everyone’s feelings and intentions in these scenarios.
It’s super welcome as so many people jump to conclusions nowadays.
The black Rapunzel fan art is sooo cute, I love how they made her braids, they look so real 😍
I love but how long would it take to braid her hair???
@@vanessatavarez8643 many, many moons
@@stars7710 what the shiz
The difference with this Rapunzel... ain't nobody touchin' dis hair! Mm-mhn!
She look so beautiful
Using sexual pictures as a ""punishment"", using porn to humiliate people who have done wrong... really reveals how these people view sex. Sexual things should be pleasant and consensual. It shows that these people view sexual things as violent--something they can weaponize to hurt people. That's not a healthy mindset to have about sex.
That's the main problem. A healthy mind does not view sex as something you use to hurt people. You don't even have to respect or like someone, it's just about not viewing sex as a weapon.
tbh with ya, the guy maybe was really upset with such a living being existing at all. it's still bad. i'm not even ok with myself in terms of existence :,D
@@PBStriker101 Tbh with ya, guys using sexual harassment/sexual violence when they're upset is exactly the problem.
@@allisonshockley381 wait wdym bro.
@@PBStriker101 If a guy's response to being upset, is to use things of a sexual nature to humiliate and "punish" whoever upset him, then that means the guy views sexual violence as an appropriate response to anger--he views sex as something humiliating, or something he can use as a weapon.
Well said 👏
"Touhou, which is a role play game series..."
Dunno if you've been corrected already, but Touhou is a bullet hell. With damn good music, to boot.
@Soft Boi I do. I'm up to date with the manga, too.
@Soft Boi Antarc... ;w;
@@LotusHearted same
i have found my people.
You’re up to date in the manga? You poor soul.
3:00 Touhou is a series of bullet hell games made by one person (ZUN). It is known for that "Bad Apple!!" video that keeps appearing on my recommendations every 5 seconds and its soundtracks, which are really good and are everywhere somehow
Unfollowing LGBTQ isn't disrespectful. You can care about the community without wanting to be part of the Discourse 24/7.
Is it possible that the hacker blocked those words then posted the list??
as a gay person i have completely just blocked lgbt on twitter. most people i know just expect me to shit on straight people or act "like a gay person". cant believe my own community wants equality but they're toxic themselves
@@thereisanidiotbelowthiscomment Yeah that's where I am at this point with The Discourse. I'll throw hands with terfs in the comments and fight the good fight, but I'd rather identity politics not be the only thing I see when I open social media.
I respect them as a them as people
@@thereisanidiotbelowthiscomment wow, shit on straight people? twitter's messed up wtf
As a Caucasian who is looking into how to color darker skin tones, this helped me find what not to do
I'm a little late to this party. But I absolutely hate this person's art style. What are they going for, ashy Baymax? Raggedy Anne as a scarecrow? I just think... you can't attack someone's art when you can't even draw legs, not that you should be going after other people's art anyway. This whole situation is an absolute mess. Zee is a mess. The people who had a hand in hacking and drawing that creepy art of Zee are a mess.
I know right. If you want to "fix" someone else art why dont at least fix yours first! Even a 2 yo can do better than that.
Ashy baymaw lmao so accurate
Minecraft villagers
Obese and somewhat "realistic" Minecraft Villagers
@가모탁 it probably is lol
From the 2 videos I’ve seen, Mohammed seems like such a genuinely nice guy
I mean... the legs looked "fixed" if all the characters suddenly developed a tumor on their pituitary glad and they have gigantism now...
Fixed, as in they can't move or feel their legs no more.
@@kw4584 Your comment is beautiful.
I think they just drawn half of them. It looks like their legs were amputated below knees.
Lmao
gigantimaxed: *leg edition*
That's twitter on a nutshell. Fighting disgusting hateful stuff with more of the same thing.
It's a cesspool of hate and hypocrisy.
Which is why I'm not on Twitter and avoid it(and Facebook) like the plague. Tumblr may have its issues but goddamn at least it's not that bad. In my circles at least, I can't speak for everywhere else on that site.
Yup
Plot twist: the hacker is Zee trying to see how people would react,
Rip if that’s happened
i would rather be amazed and just baffled and might even praise them because that would just be a god tier move lol
Actually, I would give them my respect for the greatest bamboozling ever made.
And then I'd proceed to incinerate them for turning such serious situations into a joke
tbh i wouldn't be surprised if it was a troll all along, like yeah ppl like this definitely do exist but it's just so insane??? like surely, SURELY it's just some dude fucking with us, right? it is the internet after all
top 10 anime plot twist
I doubt it was
This man is a real intellectual. I agree with everything you said. Keep up the good work :)
This art "fixing" is just fighting racism... With racism.
The problem is there was absolutely no racism involved in the original characters.
Except it isn't fighting racism. The only racist here is Zee.
It's not fighting anything, it just IS racist
It's just add to a racism really
@@BelovedOfFreya fighting art with racism
Finally someone who just doesn't immediately go "Oh yest zee's account got hacked".
I mean, I don't support what they were doing in any way but there's, you know, a limit, I guess?
Who wouldn't want them to get hacked?!! Now we won't be hearing anymore of their annoying tweets, but at the same time I don't support a lot of the things the "hacker" is doing
Same. The porn artwork of her was unnecessary and vile. Especially because her avi has a hijab on. It's a form of mockery to Islam and it doesn't sit right with me at all. These people that applaud the hackers and made those hentai artworks honestly sit at the same table as Zee, as far as being low goes.
ruclips.net/video/zC8XnTs-E-A/видео.html u
@@s_mai8970 facts
@@s_mai8970 I agree
My thoughts:
1. It's one thing to draw a fictional character you like sexy out of love... but drawing a real person in a sexual context to *demean* them or to get back at them sounds like revenge porn and it's insanely gross. Don't use sexuality/porn to take revenge on people, it's gross.
2. Hijab is symbol of modesty in Islam, so drawing hijab in a sexual way is insulting to muslims. Literally hijabis don't want to be sexualized. Stop it.
I wear a hijab because my modesty protects me from being sexualized, but the hacker's posts make me vomit.
It's the literal opposite of the meaning of a hijab.
It's like seeing a nun be sexualized. Its against what they stand for.
I totally agree with you
You cant stop r34 man
@@DudemenProHI the sun can
@@depthstrider68 the sun has r34 as well xD
SHE RUINED KOISHI, SHE WAS PERFECT JUST THE WAY SHE IS
Feels kinda shitty to do shit like this.
"Good job hacker! I was about to harass this person by sending them unsolicited gore porn to them! But you beat me to it by havking their account, good job you decent citizen!" just kinda tells you a lot about the people who are so happy about this.
Now I don't like the original artist, but still. Gotta admit the hackers and people cheering it on aren't good folks either lmao.
I 100% agree, it’s disgusting that someone making porn art of a female presenting person in a hijab is being considered “heroic”. I don’t like this artist, but they didn’t deserve to have this happen to them, no one does. It also just shows how predatory the people celebrating this hacker are.
@@aj7952 The beauty of mid 20s 4chan white male and reddit users.
Myles W THIS EXACTLY
Although I hate the artist for being a rude and oblivious asshole, the hacker wasn't exactly right either.
Yeah, I would have preferred that they left on their own or leave their toxic behavior behind and instead make original art and characters, shitty or not, the quality of their art doesn't matter in this context.
"Everyone deserves some basic fundamental respect, even if you disagree with them." That’s exactly right. It's so easy to lose track of the people on the other side of your screen, but we need to remember to be accountable for how interact with other people, because our interactions matter. I may not have agreed with everything Zee did, but they don't deserve this.
3:49 to be honest, it looks like someone tried their hardest to make a doll outta dark clay and kind of messed in their arms
"Cancel the product. Counsel the person."
Thank you for this wonderful content, man! Your videos are awesome!! Keep it up!
The redrawing of the touhou character looks like she's wearing blackface. I'm not trying to be abrasive here but the redesign is awful. There are black characters you can take reference from to make your design look somewhat serious/ competent. The fact that the face looks like a matrioshka doll, the hair colour is still blonde despite this being a black character now and the lack of feet could very well be conscious design decisions. But to me it looks more like a lazy attempt at race flipping a character, so much so that she couldn't even be bothered making her look like the race she intended to change her to.
@DreamRuler mm yea
@DreamRuler *most, marisa is western (or just dressed western but idk)
that is the most accurate description for the "fixed" art. this is why i do not use twitter at all...well, i dont use much social media to begin with, but still.
I dunno why but looking at elephant legs just make me want to puke. Im not saying it sucks but some skin hairs is just..bleh
I really love that he always stays so respectful and calm while talking about stuff like this. He explains the situation perfectly and even points out that _both_ sides are doing shit that isn't ok (one more than the other which is also something he gets across really good)
I just generally love your videos covering controversies like this. thank you for your great work, I'm excited for future videos.
Keep being awesome❤
Edit: The subtitles are awesome, Even if I personally don't need them. it's great that you're so inclusive and I find it nice to be able to just read along (My attention span is comparable to a squirrel so it also keeps me focused). Thank you for taking the time to add them, my friend has a small yt channel and I know how much work goes into "small" details like this.
Artist: *draws character*
Zee: and I took that personally.
if zee actually got hacked, i don't think the hacker is any better than zeena themselves.
@blabla BLA not funny to draw someone else in a nsfw situation. Thats horrible
@Esteban Outeiral Dias It is really catastrophic when a robber said it is okay to rob a thief and shot him. Crime is never be justified at any situation because that againts what we said as civilized
@blabla BLA Very true, neither of those things that hacker did was okay. Even if the person he/she was targeting was in the wrong
@@aWERFRGT6545BGFG well I wouldn't care if I got sexualized, I would shrug it off. Plus I don't care if someone hacks a bad person, karma got to them.
true, but that's what was coming. its basically a taste of their own medicine but at times worse. they were "fixing" art by messing with art of real people in some of their drawings.
I won't say they had this coming
but they had this coming
Calling someone they is cringe asf
Primal Deee1 lmao what? why is that cringe??
@@artistcar63 Because 'they' is used in a plural setting. It just sounded weird to me that he was refering to that person as they. People should just come up with a new pronoun or something, 'they sounds weird
Primal Deee1 ahh, okay i see. i respect your opinion.
Fuck 69 likes I can't ruin it
Drawing an average body shape isn’t fat-phobia, they’re just minding their business man lol
Oh hey Shuichi
@@LPSB272 Just Shuichi spreading his detective knowledge on the world. lol
@@neobonney And now shuichi turned into sailor moon
@@ymirfritz4757 Just sailor moon doing uhhh...yeah I got nothing.
You are truly an awesome person, still criticizing the bad they are doing but not going down on that persons level. I respect you a lot fr this.
I don’t like that people waste their talents by using them to discriminate someone in this way.
thanks for your input jesus
Thanks Jesus
@Monsieur Speedwagon Jesus isn’t God or Allah he’s Jesus my dude-
Thank you Jesus
@Monsieur Speedwagon I did read the bible but did you? It EXPLICITLY says he is the son of God. He isn’t literally God because God isn’t human, but you believe what you want idgaf
I feel like they're a troll... I mean, Zeena claims that they're a lot of things many people hate and prejudice. Lgbtq+, black people, hijab wearing muslim, overweight people... I think they're just a troll looking for attention, and by doing those horrible stuff under the name of those labels, people can hate Zena more (thus getting more attention) AND put more hate on the community Zeena put on themself in...
THANK YOU. exactly my thoughts, it just seems too over the top to be real
I think that Zeena is a good business woman or a man, because she attracted so much attention, imagine how much money she made from all people who hates her
like i’m pretty sure muslims aren’t even allowed to be or support lgbtq+.
One thing I learned from this video “if you hate something its fine to hate it but don’t be a a**hole and just be respectful”
9:51, kudos to that person, many of those other people shown are doing even worse things than Zee did, yet believe they're better. It's twitter so I'm not even surprised
Zee kept knocking on the Devil's door and was shocked when the Devil answered
she awakened The Scarlet Devil
@@shrimpfry880 She then proceeded to draw him as a black, obese woman.
@@shrimpfry880 Touhou 24 The return of the scarlet devil
But wait the thing behind the door is a mirror
But it turned out to be herself, she’s the devil.
I believe that Zeena's not even real, just a persona to attract clout and attention and now they're showing their true colors
Sounds plausible since they claim to be an LGBT Muslim, and Muslims tend to be be hostile towards LGBT values.
@@SusRing well really depends. Some muslims do welcome lgbt folks and some even lgbt members themselves.
I feel like zeenas is a 11 year old not knowing any better
@@SusRing hey! I'm an LGBTQ Muslim! Nice to meet you
@@a.sahmed2639 Impossible =0
This man is so god damn respectful but he gives such good criticism and feedback
as someone who sucks at understanding anything that they hear or even just hearing it in the first place, tysm for the subtitles.
Fans: have entire head cannons about character's races, even have widely accepted ones (such as Sero being Latino and Mina being black from MHA)
Zeena: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that
RIGHT
wtf
@@SafetyKitten where’s the confusion
@@louises.p6833 I've never heard of this race headcannon shite lol
race shouldn't matter at all bruh
@@SafetyKitten well it matters to those who are underrepresented in media. People like to believe that Sero is Latino because Latinos do not have much representation (that is good as opposed to just being a token stereotype) and people like to believe that Mina is black for similar reasons. It also makes it easier for people to relate to such characters. If you don’t need to pretend a character is your own race, then that’s good for you. But don’t shit on those who are forced to
I love the fact that you didn't break at all. You used their preferred pronouns all the way to the end. Good artist, good entertainer, good man.
Also as a starting artist, I don't know any of these people but posting hentai parody of a real person without their consent is kinda messed up, and this is coming from a guy who loves hentai
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@@potatodude5327 yes, though my style is trying to be more like Jim Lee's... I aim High. Like super high
@@karlmark9967 A *True* Man Of Culture.
@@karlmark9967 I'm also trying to be a hentai artist, and it's hard as shit to learn anatomy and other things but I guess that's expected. Good luck to you, fellow hentai loving artist.
I have a feeling they can’t figure out how to draw legs and feet.
haha 69 likes big funny
Just give them all limphedima thats inclusive
To be fair legs (calves) and feet are the hardest part to draw if you ask me
@@antha6906 but you still try right? You don’t just put elephant legs and stuff them in pants?
I would say its a style to draw Dekon Legs. But the way they are drawn with super unclean lines and drawing everyone in an ugly rough way while calling everyone art as horribly ugly and disproportionate and with bad ugly shading when they can't even add shading in their own art work is shitty
I appreciate you for using SnK ost, One of my favourite soundtracks!
"So, how are we going to fix this person doing bad things?"
"Do worse things!" "Great idea!"
THIS 👏🏻
i mean its not like i support it but i dont feel bad in any way for zee. Bitch is batshitcrazy
Dinoboy Skittles that’s not how karma works. Karma is the energy you put out into the universe and it always comes back to you times three. So hoping something bad happens to someone just because they annoy you? That comes back on you, not them.
Hydreigon No, Zee has internalized a lot of racism and sexism, so they believe that this is “helping” others. That’s miseducation not batshit crazy. Batshit crazy is hacking into someone’s account and taking the time to make gross art of that portrays a woman in a spiritual head covering in sexually degrading way. That’s disgusting.
You fight fire with fire I guess, they don't really respond to "would you stop please?" Anyway
I could draw a stickman and nobody will ever be able to "fix" him because he was meant to be that way
Ok honestly i don't like them for "fixing" art like that and overall their mentality about how skinny asian (or caucasian) women should look like. Or even desexualize real people even if they are hot in real life, I mean not everyone is a potato like me. But for me personally even if i don't like them or agree with what they're doing, hacking and cyberbullying is still a no go.
Agreed.
I too am a potato and well and AM VERY FAT and a Muslim she is making Muslims look bad and-(I do have feet...)
11:54 I find it weird that they muted "non binary" when they claim to be non binary
They didnt have respect for race, body weight or artists, so i will not respect them.
true. You have a point there!
You dont gotta respect them, but you gotta admit drawing porn of an avatar that represents an irl person is fuckin weird as all hell
@@stardoogalaxie9314 yeah... there are many images that í want to delete of my mind of real people..... disgusting
@Al X. Andra everything can be excusable if it's done to someone you don't like
Like Zee is a dummy but no one deserves to be sexually harassed as "revenge"
Also, having girls in hijab in such sexual situations can be very disrespectful to Muslim girls tbh
@@sofiapicasso1915 ikr
This is why I love your videos, you’re very level headed and respectful when approaching these topics. What this artist did was messed up either way, but this is wrong to go this level. It’s one thing to show their hypocrisy with the blocked things. But to do this? It’s kinda pathetic. I’m not Muslim, but you made a very valid point about how this is religious discrimination. It actually makes me think about how nuns or rather their wear get overly sexualized in a lot of NSFW stuff.
I’m actually curious about people who are religious their thoughts on this.
I wonder if someone paid for an artist to draw these things, I doubt it’s Zee, unless it is and this an attempt to try to get viral...
As a muslim girl who wears hijab, I felt disappointed towards both ZeenaFixArt and the Hacker. Both of them are bad.
Zeena seems suspicious for me since her bio was "Muslim on a Crusade" which seems unfitting. When I first look at her Twitter screenshot from my friends, I thought she was just a troll and trying hard to be a part of minorities (such as have darker skin, being a muslim and a part of LGBT). Her drawings also looks intentionally mean to be 'bad', don't you think so?
As for the Hacker, I don't think the account was hacked in the first place. All of this was just a drama to make them have all of the attention. (at least that what I thought). But even if the Hacker is real or not, drawing hijab porn is truly disgusting.
When I addressed the issue about hijab porn, people always said that "Well, this is internet, don't be a crybaby about it. There were many other worse things out there", "They don't draw you, but they draw this worse person who wears hijab so they put the hijab to make everyone know it was her and make fun of it", " If nun can get sexualized, why hijab can't?" and so on...
Well, I have been on the internet for a long time. I know I couldn't stop anybody to do what they're doing but it doesn't change how sad and disgusted I feel. To whoever make sexualized hijabis, nuns or any other religious beliefs, you should know we never like to see our religion and modest identity being made as a plaything and arts like that.
Boi I need to rest from internet for a while. Sorry for writing a rant
@@gezz555 I feel you sister. I usually just scroll ahead and ignore this sort of things. But people should seriously stop normalizing this. Is blatant disrespect to the entire religious community.
Is not okay.
I've heard of Zeena, did came across her acc a few times but as an artist myself, I wholly disagree with her philosophy of 'correcting' other peoples art. I mean, is ok to make a version/fanart of your own that is based off the character but what she's doing is just insulting and it completely turn me off.
To me, if you're giving any sort of attention to this sort they'll love it even more, doesn't matter if is negative or positive. Is better to ignore trolls and attention seekers. Better yet just block them.
the person acted like a savior to people who never even cared in the first place and if your message is bad and people are just hating on you you are bound to hit the nail in the coffin at some point
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His voice is so calming and its even better with headphones/headsets
Both adds in subtitles for the HoH and people who struggle with accents
And respects the pronouns even while not agreeing with the person.
Major respect.
ok I have a gut feeling that Zee never got hacked, but even if that's true I still dislike that the "hacker" is perpetuating toxic behavior on Twitter. It's pretty sick and twisted and feels like a gross "Social Experiment" if this is the case
9:40 WAIT WAIT WAIT THATS ME OMG--IM- - SHAKIGN AND CRYING SDGKJSFFSVF
Thanks for that comment!!!!!
@@MohammedAgbadi DHFKDSJH NP! :")
Everything you said was facts.
thanks for being a sane person on twitter
yes
Didn't see this until now, and only saw the of video, but I'm so glad that you went out of your way to say that this went too far- It sucked that a lotta the people I saw criticizing them were doing such reprehensible stuff :[
3:25 Koishi doesn’t even have her third eye, which is one of the main parts of her backstory, powers, and nature
Holy shit i didn't realized it wasn't there thank you for pointing that out
To be fair, the arm is probably covering it.
Well, Touhou is a danmaku game (hell bullet), and HECK! They aren't even sexual characters! What the f*** is she thinking!?
When i seen koishi komeji blackwashed and fat- koishi is my favorite touhou character and it just made me mad let’s hope zee dosent get to rwby
They mentioned how Marisa was the "least sexualized character" in the series, but in reality practically NONE of the characters are sexualized in the series lol
When it comes to sexual content, Touhou is one of the cleanest series out there not even bringing up sexuality, as long as you stick with the official stuff that is
@@annaairahala9462 I stick with original and doujin.
finally I found some actual touhou fan on the fucking comment section gg ez
The “”fixed”” drawing koishi made me cry, actually crying is an understatement
I don't respect or support what Zee was doing, but I also don't think people should be applauding someone for hacking them.
@RaveRave93 That must really suck, Hopefully that doesn't happen again
facts, i have seen some youtubers that are friends of mine get their channel hacked and it didn't seem nice at all. loosing something you've worked hard for is never nice at all.
@@MohammedAgbadi tho she didn’t really work hard on anything she posted 🤷🏽♀️
@@Charcoalcrackbaby That still doesn't mean they deserved to be hacked, sexualized (especially if they are Muslim), sent GORE P0RN, and literally anything else Twitter does to people they don't like.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Hacking them did nothing.
@@b3nt079 and I never said she deserved anything that happened to her. I just stated that she didn’t work hard on anything she had posted
The takeover of her account is like those moments in TV shows when the current villain gets attacked by a villain from another season and you suddenly begin rooting for the old antagonist even though you know you'll be against them again by the time of their next appearance.
Tbh, they're both in the wrong. Zee changed people's art without permission just because they didn't like it. The hacker sexualized their person without consent and misgendered them.
The hackers good, fuck zee, total asshole
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 you cant fight fire with fire, lose all your respect for her all you want, but dont encourage sexualizing and attacking other religions thx
Sexualization is a point but rightful gendering or whatever you'd want to call it is a form of respect, which is always earned and not an entitlement. This person is lacking in it, as it's easy to see.
@@PaulStore800 I agree tbh
THANK GOD SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME. Zee-- sucky person. Terrible morals. Hacker? Also sucky person. Also terrible morals.
I know that what Zee did was really annoying, irritating, and I know that Zee was kind of a jerk. But I don't think anyone deserves to have their account hacked, then constantly misgendered, have nsfw artworks posted of them, and have their privacy invaded. There's a line and this hacker has crossed it multiple times...
I absolutely hate that so many people think that "oh this person did something extremely horrible, let me just MISGENDER THEM." Like respecting someone's pronouns isn't just a privilege that can get taken away once someone fucks up
@@toast9690 I definitely agree! It's very annoying..
@@toast9690 people think they’re allowed to be transphobic just bc someone is a bad person
@@toast9690 Yeah it can lol
@@ViolettSchafLP what makes you think it's okay to be transphobic, you're just proving that you're just as bad as that person
I looked and the account has been suspended as of now
Great
That feel when you're watching a RUclipsr and he's all like: "Welcome back, I hope y'all are having a good day." And even though you're not really having a good day, you nod back because he just made your day. Thank You.