@@MrKconnell1 He cites his sources and goes to the actual places he's talking about, what more do you want? It doesn't take an academic to explain that colonialism is bad...
Most people don't realize the depth of history that the ingredients they consume everyday have. These last videos have been super interesting, i love it!
I like finding the irony that ppl look down on pumpkin spice as this trendy e girl thing, but nah, it's been the spice of royalty. Glad we don't have to fight wars for cinnamon tbh
"He who controls the spice controls the universe" - Baron Harkonnen
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Sadly groups like the East India Trading Company and several Sultan's from old Middle East times remind us that the human drive to acquire wealth and power at the cost of others is very evil.. The "Glory Days" of the British Empire were full of sad events as were the Spanish and others who committed genocide as part of their conquest.. So Sci-Fi certainly imitated human reality..
Eugenol. I once was a dental assistant and I got overdosed on the smell of eugenol. 🤢 I'm glad I don't associate the spice with dentistry. That would be a crime!
Long time viewer of your channel and I just have to say I appreciate how you have not compromised once on your videos, you always bring the most genuine attitude that I love to watch. Many creators begin to incorporate misleading titles or begin start to make lazier content but you have stayed consistent throughout the years and though your old videos are fantastic, your new videos just feel like an objective upgrade. What you do inspires me to travel! There’s really nobody else doing what you do and I think you deserve a bigger spotlight on this platform!
@@WeirdExplorer It's true! Your channel is really unique, and I think I've seen literally every single one of your videos. It's perfectly up my alley with my interest in food, food history/culture, plants, and not obnoxious exaggerated ingenue youtube personalities 😂
Agreed!!! My husband and I actually adore your videos and you’ve inspired us to try so many fun new fruits and we sometimes eat them with a special episode you already have on your channel. We started tasting notes of these fruits and it’s like a better version of wine tasting but with fruit which is even better! You’re amazing man ❤ thank you for always being a part of our home for more than a year now ❤ happy new years to you and wishing you only the ripest and most interesting fruit you can get your hands on!! (P.s. IM BEGGING YOU TO MAKE ANOTHER PAW PAW FRUIT. USA must know of the secret fruit we have)
Not suppose to forget! Was not by accident, They knew the people were people of Yahuwah. Esau was bless also prefer to rape rob and murder. These were the way he can hide among the nation. That is their nature to kill. Yah Hated him. Meaning God still hate them generations to generations until He kills them. But they will go in captivities first before Extinction. Prophecy from the Scripture
there will always be repression oppression , Our dark colored humans put a lot of effort to wake the world up on how bad they where treated , yet mores ruled for 600 years over europe and I dare not to touch even on the whites they killed , even nowadays they kill , wipe out and enslave other neighbouring regional tribes .. So , Who is without sin trow the first stone !
Thanks for including the history of the region. I've heard about Europeans battling for access to nutmeg/mace (someone smuggling them in a prosthetic arm) but not much about what this wealthy corporation did to ordinary people who were actually producing what the company was profiting from.
i've seen these fruits in the "wild" (just a bunch of trees growing behind a fruit and spice stall) in sri lanka. i didn't taste them despite knowing what it was. so thanks for filling in that blank with your video.
Our organic synthesis professor was a specialist in natural products and had us extract the two major components of cloves--caryophyllene and eugenol. Eugenol is found in clove, nutmeg, cinnamon, basil and bay leaf. I purified the eugenol (a yellowish oil) and managed to crystallize it by leaving it untouched in a sealed vial for a few weeks. It made a hexagonal crystal that had the most wonderful perfumey aroma. Eugenol is also one of the anesthetic components of clove, which is why folk medicine recommends chewing cloves for toothache.
And a good source for beta-caryophyllene being Indian bay leaf, which I keep in stock as a spice (along with whole nutmeg and cloves). Back in the '60's, a ground clove poultice wasn't uncommon for use in dental pain issues, when some molars were coming in, mom made up one for me (a hint, we're from Philly). I do remember seeing some truly astounding and beautiful crystals come from the extracted, purified compounds though. With their true splendor frequently revealed under the microscope, both with and without polarized light. I've also a vague tickle of memory suggesting that the seed had astringent properties, but I could be misremembering. Cloves inhibit mold growth on foods, as like many spices, they're either preservative in nature or frequently antiparasitic or even both. Me, I just enjoy the flavor, as doctor's just down the road, just past my pharmacy. But, I do remember some of my herbal survival training from the military all of those decades ago. The advantage of the pharmacy is consistent, precise dosage, whereas the originating plant would have variable yield. And currently, I've got to be guarded with my treasured clove usage, due to my now being on an immune modulator for my Crohn's.
The book Napoleon’s Buttons diagrams (on page 29) how the aromatic molecule that gives cloves its distinct aroma, eugenol, and the aromatic molecule that gives nutmeg its distinct aroma, isoeugenol, are isomers. They contain the same atoms in the same ratio, but slightly different molecular bonds and wildly different aromas. Your videos are fantastic. Thank you for bringing so many of us on your explorations!
To add a little bit more 'unpleasant' ( if not horrific ) information to the systematic torching of all the clove plantations in the East Indies, the Dutch East India Company and their agents may very well have - however inadvertently - extirpated several different varieties of clove trees and perhaps another, separate species of clove, a close relative which some botanists have speculated upon. Regardless of whether this rendered another species of clove extinct or not, this certainly reduced the diversity of the clove populations. We will never be able to utilise their variant genes to breed more desirable characters into the cultivated population. What a tragedy this is - as well as the actual economic and cultural catastrophe this was to the native peoples of these islands. The only groups to 'benefit' from this rapacious act were the corporation and its shareholders and the Sultan and his immediate family. It didn't 'benefit' either one for very long.
12:18 many syzygium have common flavour, i call it "jambu" (indonesian for common syzygium fruit) you can taste it from water apple, rose apple, malay apple, clove, and daun salam (indonesian bay leaf)
That's really interesting! We call it "jambo" (with an "o") here in Brazil, so I guess it's come straight from the indonesian, via the portuguese. "Jambu", with "u", on the other hand, is a whole different thing, a herb from the northern state of Pará, that numbs your mouth and tongue, and is used on various regional dishes from that state
I think that agriculture has a dark history in general. Farm work is hard, and especially hard when it requires using fine motor skills, so there is often exploitation or slavery involved. I never knew that cloves had a fruit. I always associated them with flu and cold because my mother always told me to suck on them if my throat was sore or if I was coughing up phlegm. Thank you for the new information.
we've had an ancient container of cloves in my spice cabinet for probably 20 years. I've never used it so I assume it was bought for making a pie but we have bought our pies for functionally forever. We don't throw out our spices unless there is moisture and I like how they mellow out over time.
I love making clove oranges for Christmas, but this year did not have time, so came up with another idea. I took a bowl of cloves and poured orange essential oil over it and stirred it in. Worked great to get that orange/clove smell in the house.
I remember asking about clove fruit years ago. Thanks for bringing an update! ...Yeah, definitely not surprised how little it is, and how measly the flesh is. It was selectively bred for the most potent flower bud, after all.
A lot of spices still have pretty dark origins. Greed is very dangerous. If we don't watch out it will be our end. I appreciate the history lesson personally. Thank you!
There is a very important distinction between selfishness and greed, and it is one a lot of people sadly don't know. It is a good thing to have your own interests as a priority, but it is absolutely not to put the pursuit of wealth above the well-being of those around you.
Truly enjoyed this episode. I have harbored an allspice tree in my home and it is surviving despite my ignorance of its needs and shambling efforts. It is a more resilient tree than I imagined. I will look thru your older vids as I imagine that you have covered it already....or maybe you will in future.
Thank you for explaining the history behind cloves. Cannot look at them the same after this. Will definitely appreciate and have more gratitude when I use them now 🙏❤.
When I was about ten or so in primary school I would take cloves to school and have one in my mouth and tell people they were some kind of dried worms from the mountains of Tibet or somewhere. Haha. I been a weird kid for decades. Love your channel and really glad to learn the history of spices. Saves me reading about it
So glad we found this channel :) Being fledgling content creators ourselves we APPRECIATE the thought, efforts, and style. Thanks Jared! PS: Kitties are the best cohosts. Keep the history coming especially the book titles, thanks for doing the research.
wanna feel wealthy? look at your computer,cellphone or tv...then realize that the majority of people who don't live in first world areas likely have nothing, not just the worst version possible, they just don't have it at all. some don't even have community appliances like a bar tv or library computer.
Clove is really fascinating as it has full blown medical applications for humans and animals. I've been told that if you have a tooth infection that placing a clove in the effected area for a while it will numb the pain and it is also germicidal. It used when procedures are done on aquarium fish as in proper dosage mixed in their water is an anesthetic.
Yes, eugenol in clove oil is a mild local anaesthetic. It's not ideal vs modern alternatives but it does numb tissue quite well, have to be careful with it though and it's only suitable for topical use, overuse can result in tissue damage.
Yup! My dentist used it for some extreme pain I had after getting my wisdom teeth out. It tasted like something died in my mouth, but it sure got the job done.
A have water apple tree in my backyard, their flower actually looks like cloves. If you wonder why there's still plenty cloves trees it's because they use it in tobacco industries, Indonesia is if I'm not mistaken only one of two countries that doesn't have regulations on tobacco.
I had no idea that cloves were Syzagium. I planted two trees a couple years ago. One of them is getting its first flower buds right now, this video comes at just the right time. I'll definitely let a few of the flowers open and produce fruit. I'm really curious to taste the fruit.
This may be a clue to a many-years-long fruit mystery for me! When I was 7 - 8 years old, a friend gave me a fruit from a bush that was growing by her front door in our neighborhood in Southern California. Skeptical, I asked if they were safe to eat. She assured me that they were and ate some herself before I ate the one that she gave me. It was small, round to slightly pear shaped, and pink to red in color... much like the water apple/rose apple/wax apple which you showed, only much smaller, maybe 1/2 inch at its largest. It was crisp... similar to an apple but lighter. The taste, as I try to analyze the memory of it, was not sweet, slightly tart, and a little bit astringent. Ever since moving away from that area I have had a craving for those silly little fruits but had no idea what they might be! When you showed the base of the clove fruit it really caught my attention because this little fruit had that kind of a pattern on the base. The color of the water apple is also very similar to the mystery fruit, and possibly the texture, as well, which looks light and crisp. Now to do more research! I would never have guessed that the mystery fruit of my childhood might be related to cloves!!!
I think I found it! It may be Syzygium paniculatum, aka Eugenia myrtifolia, aka Australian Brush Cherry! Sadly, it doesn't grow where I now live but it's good to have the mystery very likely solved! Thank you! :)
In Australia we have a native syzygium that's used very frequently as a street plant or ornamentally (syzygium luehmannii or riberry colloquially) I tried some fruit from a tree down my street recently and it had a strong clove taste which I wasn't expecting but thought nothing more of it, had no idea cloves were in the same genus :0
How fascinating. Also the history part was just as enjoyable as the taste test, I always find I find myself smile when I see your reaction to the taste of the fruit. As a chef I love finding new flavours of the world and insanely click when you upload, long time watcher fist time comment thanks for the years of solid content dude 👊 🇬🇧 🍋🟩 🍇 🍉
I love this direction you've decided to take with your videos. And I bet one of those less ripe fruits smashed a little and added to a stew would be a nice addition.
I bet clove fruit would go really, really well in a fruitcake - like imagine making a fruitcake but replacing as many of the spices as possible with the fruit that their plant bears (if it tastes like the spice) in addition to the other fruit and see what it tastes like. It'd be interesting, if nothing else.
I think I've been watching you for years but I have a habit of not commenting. I appreciate your channel and everything it brings my life so much thank you ! and when I say I watch your videos I watch them from start to end.
cloves have a kind of local anesthetic property that people use them for relief from toothache, does the fruit have the same properties ? great vid as usual btw.
Your videos do plant nerds all over the world a service, including myself. I’ve been watching for a decade and it’s wonderful to see how your content has evolved over the years, keep up the good work my friend
I like the fact that you posted the exact timeline for people to skip to. I've never seen anyone do that before. However being a curious mind I watched the whole video without skipping
My phone is 100% listening to me, never gotten a video about or related to cloves before but as soon as I start talking about it being in the baklava I’m eating, here your video comes lol
So weird I had always guessed cloves were in the same family as water apples because even water apples can have a slight cinnamon/clove/spice flavour to them sometimes (particularly the little hairs in the middle)... Really really amazing content as usual, I really applaud you for continuing to grow and make your videos better everytime! Watched you go from doing videos filmed on your phone with terrible audio and lighting to super professional documentaries that go into more depth and detail than 99% of professional documentaries out there.
This inspires me to take a bite of the fruit from our "Lilly Pilly" tree (Syzygium Smithii) to see if I can taste a hint of clove (Syzygium Aromaticum)!
In Australia they make jams from the Lilly Pilly tree probably similar to Chinese Apple pictured in the video but much smaller. Let's see! If I don't respond by tomorrow I died of poison 😐
They say cloves regularly taken in large doses can cause dizziness, hypoglycemia, liver damage and increased risk of bleeding among other things. I feel this is why people really need to do their research before they believe someone and take mega doses of some “natural “ plant etc For example we had good friends who snacked on black licorice every evening. But ended up with high blood pressure. Because the black licorice they were eating didn’t have the active ingredients removed like some black licorices sold do. And they also ate more of it than the average person. Many natural plants etc are good in moderation or when used by someone educated in the good and negative effects of the plant etc.
your video on nutmeg was next level! been watching since you were weird fruit explorer in like 2018, please do more long documentaries like the nutmeg one!
The addition of photos and videos relating to the history of the fruit is very entertaining and I love the addition. I hope it doesnt take too long to edit. 🙏
Was gonna say they remind me a bit of fuschia Fruits or Lilly pillies, didn't know they were Syzygium but that makes sense they do look like elongated Syzygium fruits
Yes, I am from Venezuela which is very far from where they're from, but this home remedy for pain reaches. When I got my wisdom teeth out, the dentist recommended chamomile with cloves, it really helped the soreness.
My housemate made me chew cloves when my wisdom teeth started coming in, and my mum will tell me to gargle salt water with cloves if I have a throat infection.
I'm thrilled to find out more about cloves. I loved your deep dive into nutmeg. I've been sprucing up my morning coffee with more and more spices. I'm adding cardamom, ground cloves, cinnamon, allspice, and micro-planing the nutmeg. Delicious! I think it actually brings out a chocolatey taste. I don't care if it's my imagination because it's delightful to drink. 😁
@@no1brittbarbiefan You're sounding a bit without usefulness yourself here, troll. Siding with genocidal barbarians against Indigenous villagers isn't doing you any favours.
Thanks again for your enlightening videos. Ticktoc shows to plant the market clove and everyone knows that's the flower Thanks for the lesson and seeing the fruits
Thank you for going through the journey of exploring the history of spices and posting such a gem of a video! Really like the way you've presented the info all while doing your best to relate it to the human senses for folks who lack the depth of experience you've got on your belt Developing the palette while commiting tastes & textures to memory I find to be a little underappreciated when utilized as a communication tool- of which you've done splendidly! At around 9:40 during the showcasing of the dark-ish clove fruit, I had a thought Reminded me of Olives and how most of the world actually never receives fresh olive fruit (which, as a fun fact, I've learned cats are quite fond of! Though some might take to the preserved sort, you can't, or more accurately should not feed more than half of a salted preserved olive to them due to the high salt content; hence why I've been lamenting in my recent years not being able to aquire fresh olive fruit.) Anyhow Got me thinking of olive oil more or less And clove oil is a thing n' quite obviously the different types of fruit & seeds can produce an incredible difference in flavours. So I was wondering how such a sweeter variety of the clove fruit would taste as an extracted oil. Probably different than the usual extract, I'm guessing- but it's food for thought I suppose. I'll never know personally, but if you ever get a chance to revisit this spice as a topic I think it'd be wonderful if you could touch up on the oil compounds that these spices (or fruiting bodies related to the spices) can offer! Thank you again for the video. Was a pleasure to watch and learn!
I love the spicy history portion, great content! If somebody had asked me a while back if I would watch a channel about a guy going around the world eating fruit, I might have told you no. My answer has changed
Cinnamon, allspice, ginger, and clove is one of my favorite combinations of spices. I love it in tea, pumpkin pie, bread or cake. It was fun to learn a little more about cloves!
I'm curious, ive never tried clove fruit, but drawing from your description of its flavour profile, I feel like it would make a pretty excellent coffee substitute.
Bro's on his dark history arc, also it took me this long to realize you said 'orang kaya' in the original video, the way you said it made it sound like some cool leader name but it's literally just 'rich people', malay shares a lot of the indonesian language which is why I know.
@@Nyerguds''Orang kaya'' mean rich people used often in vernacular indonesian and malay, but in Maluku and Papua it became a title for elders/oligarch who made the decisions for the communities. No doubt they were also richer compared to their peers and probably also why they were called that.
>"Malay shares a lot of the indonesian language" The Indonesian state literally adopted and rebranded the ages-old language, especially the Riau dialect not so different from in Melaka; even Indonesian linguists know. "Malay shares a lot of the Indonesian language" is as weird as saying "English shares a lot of the American language".
After considerable research I read only two cloves a day is a recommended limit of consumption. If one has respiratory complications as asthma etc.one can get astonishing relief by holding two cloves in your mouth apparetly they eventually dissolve. I get extraordinary relief long before the disintegration happens at which point I no longer keep them in my mouth. Anyone else get significant relief from shortness of breath by consuming cloves in this fashion? Thanks for the great subjects on tour channel . Great information. Only two a day as what was written warned of doing harm to other parts of your body when consumption of more then just 2 cloves
Better late then never. We did not get this information in school's history classes in the Netherlands in my time. So thank you for the background information (and especially the one in your nutmeg video!).
A lot of countries have problems in telling their children about the genocides their ancestors did. We really need some sort of international protocol for that.
Including spice/fruit history is a wonderful addition to your channel!
Glad you think so!
I agree, it is wonderful to hear the opinions of a cruise ship contortionist on history.
Yes! I find the recent videos very interesting. The amount of work and dedication he's putting in his videos is incredible.
@@WeirdExplorer Of course you were going to try munching the clove. 🤣Thanks for taking one for the team.
@@MrKconnell1 He cites his sources and goes to the actual places he's talking about, what more do you want? It doesn't take an academic to explain that colonialism is bad...
Most people don't realize the depth of history that the ingredients they consume everyday have. These last videos have been super interesting, i love it!
If you eating cloves and nutmeg every day something ain't right 😂
@C.W-d4k oh yeah my bad, forgot that people from the us don't season their food lol
Food history is a field and very extensive.
I like finding the irony that ppl look down on pumpkin spice as this trendy e girl thing, but nah, it's been the spice of royalty. Glad we don't have to fight wars for cinnamon tbh
Most people don’t realize the depth of history in everything.
"He who controls the spice controls the universe" - Baron Harkonnen
Sadly groups like the East India Trading Company and several Sultan's from old Middle East times remind us that the human drive to acquire wealth and power at the cost of others is very evil.. The "Glory Days" of the British Empire were full of sad events as were the Spanish and others who committed genocide as part of their conquest.. So Sci-Fi certainly imitated human reality..
Fear is the mind-killer. -Frank Herbert 💙
@@chillnophone2024 "I will bend like a reed in the wind".
The spice must flow.
Spice is life
Oil from clove buds is also used as an oral anesthetic/anti-septic by dentists.
I’ve used it for tooth pain-very effective first aid measure!
I work at a fish hatchery, and we use clove oil to anesthetize the fish when we need to do something like tag them.
And ancient Egyptian dentists prescribed cloves for the same ailment, 6000 years ago! Truly a timeless spice-medicine.
I remember back in my days at sea, jamming cloves into my swollen gums to relieve painful tooth abscesses. Can't remember where I learned that.
Eugenol. I once was a dental assistant and I got overdosed on the smell of eugenol. 🤢 I'm glad I don't associate the spice with dentistry. That would be a crime!
Long time viewer of your channel and I just have to say I appreciate how you have not compromised once on your videos, you always bring the most genuine attitude that I love to watch. Many creators begin to incorporate misleading titles or begin start to make lazier content but you have stayed consistent throughout the years and though your old videos are fantastic, your new videos just feel like an objective upgrade. What you do inspires me to travel! There’s really nobody else doing what you do and I think you deserve a bigger spotlight on this platform!
Wow thank you so much!
I agree, Great and consistent content. Very entertaining too.
@@WeirdExplorer It's true! Your channel is really unique, and I think I've seen literally every single one of your videos. It's perfectly up my alley with my interest in food, food history/culture, plants, and not obnoxious exaggerated ingenue youtube personalities 😂
Agreed!!! My husband and I actually adore your videos and you’ve inspired us to try so many fun new fruits and we sometimes eat them with a special episode you already have on your channel. We started tasting notes of these fruits and it’s like a better version of wine tasting but with fruit which is even better! You’re amazing man ❤ thank you for always being a part of our home for more than a year now ❤ happy new years to you and wishing you only the ripest and most interesting fruit you can get your hands on!! (P.s. IM BEGGING YOU TO MAKE ANOTHER PAW PAW FRUIT. USA must know of the secret fruit we have)
As Indonesian. We never forget what west do to us
Not suppose to forget!
Was not by accident, They knew the people were people of Yahuwah.
Esau was bless also prefer to rape rob and murder.
These were the way he can hide among the nation.
That is their nature to kill.
Yah Hated him.
Meaning God still hate them generations to generations until He kills them.
But they will go in captivities first before Extinction.
Prophecy from the Scripture
there will always be repression oppression , Our dark colored humans put a lot of effort to wake the world up on how bad they where treated , yet mores ruled for 600 years over europe and I dare not to touch even on the whites they killed , even nowadays they kill , wipe out and enslave other neighbouring regional tribes .. So , Who is without sin trow the first stone !
Blossoming clove tree flowers have the nicest scent of any plant I have ever smelled.
Thanks for including the history of the region. I've heard about Europeans battling for access to nutmeg/mace (someone smuggling them in a prosthetic arm) but not much about what this wealthy corporation did to ordinary people who were actually producing what the company was profiting from.
i've seen these fruits in the "wild" (just a bunch of trees growing behind a fruit and spice stall) in sri lanka. i didn't taste them despite knowing what it was. so thanks for filling in that blank with your video.
Our organic synthesis professor was a specialist in natural products and had us extract the two major components of cloves--caryophyllene and eugenol. Eugenol is found in clove, nutmeg, cinnamon, basil and bay leaf. I purified the eugenol (a yellowish oil) and managed to crystallize it by leaving it untouched in a sealed vial for a few weeks. It made a hexagonal crystal that had the most wonderful perfumey aroma. Eugenol is also one of the anesthetic components of clove, which is why folk medicine recommends chewing cloves for toothache.
And a good source for beta-caryophyllene being Indian bay leaf, which I keep in stock as a spice (along with whole nutmeg and cloves).
Back in the '60's, a ground clove poultice wasn't uncommon for use in dental pain issues, when some molars were coming in, mom made up one for me (a hint, we're from Philly).
I do remember seeing some truly astounding and beautiful crystals come from the extracted, purified compounds though. With their true splendor frequently revealed under the microscope, both with and without polarized light.
I've also a vague tickle of memory suggesting that the seed had astringent properties, but I could be misremembering.
Cloves inhibit mold growth on foods, as like many spices, they're either preservative in nature or frequently antiparasitic or even both.
Me, I just enjoy the flavor, as doctor's just down the road, just past my pharmacy. But, I do remember some of my herbal survival training from the military all of those decades ago. The advantage of the pharmacy is consistent, precise dosage, whereas the originating plant would have variable yield.
And currently, I've got to be guarded with my treasured clove usage, due to my now being on an immune modulator for my Crohn's.
@ ah, SOUTH Philly? I also am from Philadelphia
The book Napoleon’s Buttons diagrams (on page 29) how the aromatic molecule that gives cloves its distinct aroma, eugenol, and the aromatic molecule that gives nutmeg its distinct aroma, isoeugenol, are isomers. They contain the same atoms in the same ratio, but slightly different molecular bonds and wildly different aromas.
Your videos are fantastic. Thank you for bringing so many of us on your explorations!
To add a little bit more 'unpleasant' ( if not horrific ) information to the systematic torching of all the clove plantations in the East Indies, the Dutch East India Company and their agents may very well have - however inadvertently - extirpated several different varieties of clove trees and perhaps another, separate species of clove, a close relative which some botanists have speculated upon. Regardless of whether this rendered another species of clove extinct or not, this certainly reduced the diversity of the clove populations. We will never be able to utilise their variant genes to breed more desirable characters into the cultivated population. What a tragedy this is - as well as the actual economic and cultural catastrophe this was to the native peoples of these islands. The only groups to 'benefit' from this rapacious act were the corporation and its shareholders and the Sultan and his immediate family. It didn't 'benefit' either one for very long.
Always White man
12:18 many syzygium have common flavour, i call it "jambu" (indonesian for common syzygium fruit)
you can taste it from water apple, rose apple, malay apple, clove, and daun salam (indonesian bay leaf)
eugenol taste？
Syzygium fruit is “Macopa” in Tagalog (Philippines) and we call bay leaves as “Laurel”
That's really interesting! We call it "jambo" (with an "o") here in Brazil, so I guess it's come straight from the indonesian, via the portuguese. "Jambu", with "u", on the other hand, is a whole different thing, a herb from the northern state of Pará, that numbs your mouth and tongue, and is used on various regional dishes from that state
I think that agriculture has a dark history in general.
Farm work is hard, and especially hard when it requires using fine motor skills, so there is often exploitation or slavery involved.
I never knew that cloves had a fruit.
I always associated them with flu and cold because my mother always told me to suck on them if my throat was sore or if I was coughing up phlegm.
Thank you for the new information.
The history turns black because of greedy people. The colonialists are super greedy and evil.
Any history where hard big business is concerned is filled with dark elements, where gains are prioritized over humanity
we've had an ancient container of cloves in my spice cabinet for probably 20 years. I've never used it so I assume it was bought for making a pie but we have bought our pies for functionally forever. We don't throw out our spices unless there is moisture and I like how they mellow out over time.
@xSwordLilyx Will you pass it down to the next generation or get drunk one day and work up the courage to use it?
I associate cloves with toothpaste, because I once bought a natural toothpaste made of cloves. Better than the artificial stuff.
I love making clove oranges for Christmas, but this year did not have time, so came up with another idea. I took a bowl of cloves and poured orange essential oil over it and stirred it in. Worked great to get that orange/clove smell in the house.
I remember asking about clove fruit years ago. Thanks for bringing an update!
...Yeah, definitely not surprised how little it is, and how measly the flesh is. It was selectively bred for the most potent flower bud, after all.
A lot of spices still have pretty dark origins. Greed is very dangerous. If we don't watch out it will be our end. I appreciate the history lesson personally. Thank you!
Greeds still around, a more recent example, the Banana Wars comes to mind.
There is a very important distinction between selfishness and greed, and it is one a lot of people sadly don't know. It is a good thing to have your own interests as a priority, but it is absolutely not to put the pursuit of wealth above the well-being of those around you.
Greed is the least of our problems right now.
@@naidoeshacks Please elaborate.
It’s one of those plants that grows in just a few places in the world. 😳 It had to be a pretty huge deal.
Truly enjoyed this episode. I have harbored an allspice tree in my home and it is surviving despite my ignorance of its needs and shambling efforts. It is a more resilient tree than I imagined. I will look thru your older vids as I imagine that you have covered it already....or maybe you will in future.
Thank you for explaining the history behind cloves. Cannot look at them the same after this. Will definitely appreciate and have more gratitude when I use them now 🙏❤.
When I was about ten or so in primary school I would take cloves to school and have one in my mouth and tell people they were some kind of dried worms from the mountains of Tibet or somewhere. Haha. I been a weird kid for decades. Love your channel and really glad to learn the history of spices. Saves me reading about it
That’s awesome
So glad we found this channel :)
Being fledgling content creators ourselves we APPRECIATE the thought, efforts, and style.
Thanks Jared!
PS: Kitties are the best cohosts.
Keep the history coming especially the book titles, thanks for doing the research.
The histories behind the fruits are fascinating, and I now feel excessively wealthy when I peer into my spice cupboard!
wanna feel wealthy?
look at your computer,cellphone or tv...then realize that the majority of people who don't live in first world areas likely have nothing, not just the worst version possible, they just don't have it at all.
some don't even have community appliances like a bar tv or library computer.
You should see how much saffron I have just lying around in my cupboards.
youre as wealthy as a pharaoh!
@@lacsarlacsar3566and almost as oppressed as banda people.
Production just keeps getting better, keep spreading knowledge ✌🏾
Clove is really fascinating as it has full blown medical applications for humans and animals. I've been told that if you have a tooth infection that placing a clove in the effected area for a while it will numb the pain and it is also germicidal. It used when procedures are done on aquarium fish as in proper dosage mixed in their water is an anesthetic.
Yes, eugenol in clove oil is a mild local anaesthetic. It's not ideal vs modern alternatives but it does numb tissue quite well, have to be careful with it though and it's only suitable for topical use, overuse can result in tissue damage.
Yah it is an oral antiseptic. But this will 100% not cure an infected tooth.
Yup! My dentist used it for some extreme pain I had after getting my wisdom teeth out. It tasted like something died in my mouth, but it sure got the job done.
Searching for cloves America was discovered
Eugenol
A have water apple tree in my backyard, their flower actually looks like cloves. If you wonder why there's still plenty cloves trees it's because they use it in tobacco industries, Indonesia is if I'm not mistaken only one of two countries that doesn't have regulations on tobacco.
negara kedua apa?
I always knew that lilli-pilli has a slight clove flavor, but never realized that they are related. I've got to try lilli-pilli buds now
I had no idea that cloves were Syzagium. I planted two trees a couple years ago. One of them is getting its first flower buds right now, this video comes at just the right time. I'll definitely let a few of the flowers open and produce fruit. I'm really curious to taste the fruit.
its not for eating, its just for fagnance
I'm grandma made the best oven roasts with cloves in...
@@poepflater ananas tart with cloves taste amazing😋🤗
@@xiraoit9342 whole world.. ananas.. The English for no reason... PINEAPPLE!
This may be a clue to a many-years-long fruit mystery for me! When I was 7 - 8 years old, a friend gave me a fruit from a bush that was growing by her front door in our neighborhood in Southern California. Skeptical, I asked if they were safe to eat. She assured me that they were and ate some herself before I ate the one that she gave me. It was small, round to slightly pear shaped, and pink to red in color... much like the water apple/rose apple/wax apple which you showed, only much smaller, maybe 1/2 inch at its largest. It was crisp... similar to an apple but lighter. The taste, as I try to analyze the memory of it, was not sweet, slightly tart, and a little bit astringent. Ever since moving away from that area I have had a craving for those silly little fruits but had no idea what they might be! When you showed the base of the clove fruit it really caught my attention because this little fruit had that kind of a pattern on the base. The color of the water apple is also very similar to the mystery fruit, and possibly the texture, as well, which looks light and crisp. Now to do more research! I would never have guessed that the mystery fruit of my childhood might be related to cloves!!!
I think I found it! It may be Syzygium paniculatum, aka Eugenia myrtifolia, aka Australian Brush Cherry! Sadly, it doesn't grow where I now live but it's good to have the mystery very likely solved! Thank you! :)
That's what I thought of from your description. But I couldn't remember the name. 😂 Mismo. ☮️
Here in oz we call them Lilly Pillies. Makes great jam.
In Australia we have a native syzygium that's used very frequently as a street plant or ornamentally (syzygium luehmannii or riberry colloquially)
I tried some fruit from a tree down my street recently and it had a strong clove taste which I wasn't expecting but thought nothing more of it, had no idea cloves were in the same genus :0
How fascinating. Also the history part was just as enjoyable as the taste test, I always find I find myself smile when I see your reaction to the taste of the fruit. As a chef I love finding new flavours of the world and insanely click when you upload, long time watcher fist time comment thanks for the years of solid content dude 👊 🇬🇧 🍋🟩 🍇 🍉
I love this direction you've decided to take with your videos. And I bet one of those less ripe fruits smashed a little and added to a stew would be a nice addition.
One of the best RUclips channels. So thorough in your descriptions.
Glad you think so!
We put a clove in our mouth to freshen our mouth sometimes...especially after a nasty cold.
Thank you for showing the seed.
I thought you were going to say it looks like a tiny little 2 liter bottle of soda lol
Oh you're right it does!
I bet clove fruit would go really, really well in a fruitcake - like imagine making a fruitcake but replacing as many of the spices as possible with the fruit that their plant bears (if it tastes like the spice) in addition to the other fruit and see what it tastes like. It'd be interesting, if nothing else.
I like how you think! Always whole and frugal for full impact! The secret is always in the techniques which usually take more time.
I've always wondered about the history of spices; cool series!
I think I've been watching you for years but I have a habit of not commenting. I appreciate your channel and everything it brings my life so much thank you ! and when I say I watch your videos I watch them from start to end.
Who the heck skips spice history especially told by this Amazing gem?!? Best YT find in 2024!
The word "clove" is derived (through French) from the Latin word "clavus," meaning "nail."
In Italian "clove" is "chiodo di garofano", translated in English it would be "carnation's nail" (word by word: nail of carnation).
In Spanish is called "clavo de olor", something akin to "odor nail"
@@rgc517 it translates better to "scent nail" since the word odor is used to denote bad smells
cloves have a kind of local anesthetic property that people use them for relief from toothache, does the fruit have the same properties ? great vid as usual btw.
I was wondering the same thing
Almost certainly. Same oil
@@ryans9029 okay, thanks. Next question would be is it more or less effective in its 'fresh' fruit form ?
Honestly, why would anyone skip ahead and miss all the great history?
Your videos do plant nerds all over the world a service, including myself. I’ve been watching for a decade and it’s wonderful to see how your content has evolved over the years, keep up the good work my friend
I love clove. I have clove cologne, clove mints, clove gum, glove soap. Its such an awesome spice.
I had forgot about clove gum, from my grandmother
Each time I have seen them, I have appreciated your film-making skills. By which I mean the stop-motion stuff.
I like the fact that you posted the exact timeline for people to skip to. I've never seen anyone do that before. However being a curious mind I watched the whole video without skipping
Weird Explorer is brave to nibble on that jet black and shriveled fruit that he knows people generally don't eat, lol
Its like a dried fruit, the sugars are concentrated so it's better
My phone is 100% listening to me, never gotten a video about or related to cloves before but as soon as I start talking about it being in the baklava I’m eating, here your video comes lol
Learning the history of whatever you're tasting enriches the experience of your videos greatly for me. I'm glad you've decided to do it more often.
So weird I had always guessed cloves were in the same family as water apples because even water apples can have a slight cinnamon/clove/spice flavour to them sometimes (particularly the little hairs in the middle)...
Really really amazing content as usual, I really applaud you for continuing to grow and make your videos better everytime!
Watched you go from doing videos filmed on your phone with terrible audio and lighting to super professional documentaries that go into more depth and detail than 99% of professional documentaries out there.
Can’t mention cloves without mentioning Kretek cigarettes. Its indonesian heritage and they taste amazing.
That word will age restrict your video
@@Donovarkhallum what word?
@@lilalexq22 talking about cigarettes
@@Donovarkhallum Not true if its informational. Many videos of JacobFuckingJones aren’t even age restricted.
@@Donovarkhallum No it won't doomer
I like how in deep you go for your research and videos. Thank you.
This inspires me to take a bite of the fruit from our "Lilly Pilly" tree (Syzygium Smithii) to see if I can taste a hint of clove (Syzygium Aromaticum)!
😮How was it? What is It?
@@lornahuddleston1453 I will tell you tomorrow!
In Australia they make jams from the Lilly Pilly tree probably similar to Chinese Apple pictured in the video but much smaller. Let's see! If I don't respond by tomorrow I died of poison 😐
I am LIVING for the history videos you’ve been releasing recently. I LOVE THEM!
I really enjoy that you started to go into the history of fruits/spices
we need to get you looking for that silphium plant. Thanks for posting, love the vids. loving the history stuff too.
one of my favorite channels on youtube tbh
I have to say clove juice sounds like a profitable industry
*sigh* Time for soul-shredding sad history. *clicks*
They say cloves regularly taken in large doses can cause dizziness, hypoglycemia, liver damage and increased risk of bleeding among other things. I feel this is why people really need to do their research before they believe someone and take mega doses of some “natural “ plant etc For example we had good friends who snacked on black licorice every evening. But ended up with high blood pressure. Because the black licorice they were eating didn’t have the active ingredients removed like some black licorices sold do. And they also ate more of it than the average person. Many natural plants etc are good in moderation or when used by someone educated in the good and negative effects of the plant etc.
Its almost as if chemicals are the exact same regardless of origin
so glad that we're getting more episodes out of your indonesia/banda island trip than just the Nutmeg one; which was phenomenal.
I have tons of footage, so hopefully I can keep it going for a while!
Great review. Thank you for your curiosity.
Fascinating stuff as always Jared
cloves...guess who managed to monopolized it, not only the VOC. Much more recent. Loving this series man. Keep it up.
your video on nutmeg was next level! been watching since you were weird fruit explorer in like 2018, please do more long documentaries like the nutmeg one!
The addition of photos and videos relating to the history of the fruit is very entertaining and I love the addition. I hope it doesnt take too long to edit. 🙏
Was gonna say they remind me a bit of fuschia Fruits or Lilly pillies, didn't know they were Syzygium but that makes sense they do look like elongated Syzygium fruits
clove is used here for teeth pain from my experience it really does help
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Yes, I am from Venezuela which is very far from where they're from, but this home remedy for pain reaches. When I got my wisdom teeth out, the dentist recommended chamomile with cloves, it really helped the soreness.
My housemate made me chew cloves when my wisdom teeth started coming in, and my mum will tell me to gargle salt water with cloves if I have a throat infection.
Most clove oil is actually just Eugenol, which is the oil in cloves that give it the numbing effect and smell.
I'm thrilled to find out more about cloves. I loved your deep dive into nutmeg. I've been sprucing up my morning coffee with more and more spices. I'm adding cardamom, ground cloves, cinnamon, allspice, and micro-planing the nutmeg. Delicious! I think it actually brings out a chocolatey taste. I don't care if it's my imagination because it's delightful to drink. 😁
I wish you had spent time to explain the process of extracting the clove for use in cooking and baking. I'm loving your vids!
Wow
I knew the East India company had done some brutal things but to depopulate an entire island of 10,00+ people!?!? That's just barbaric.
Depopulating useless biomass is good, actually.
@@no1brittbarbiefan You're sounding a bit without usefulness yourself here, troll. Siding with genocidal barbarians against Indigenous villagers isn't doing you any favours.
I remember my grandma made cakes with cloves, it's surprisingly delicious
Man, I *LOVE* your vids that have a bit of history and investigation to the fruit. Please keep on it
Thanks again for your enlightening videos. Ticktoc shows to plant the market clove and everyone knows that's the flower Thanks for the lesson and seeing the fruits
I enjoyed the story and description, thanks
Thank you for going through the journey of exploring the history of spices and posting such a gem of a video!
Really like the way you've presented the info all while doing your best to relate it to the human senses for folks who lack the depth of experience you've got on your belt
Developing the palette while commiting tastes & textures to memory I find to be a little underappreciated when utilized as a communication tool- of which you've done splendidly!
At around 9:40 during the showcasing of the dark-ish clove fruit, I had a thought
Reminded me of Olives and how most of the world actually never receives fresh olive fruit (which, as a fun fact, I've learned cats are quite fond of! Though some might take to the preserved sort, you can't, or more accurately should not feed more than half of a salted preserved olive to them due to the high salt content; hence why I've been lamenting in my recent years not being able to aquire fresh olive fruit.)
Anyhow
Got me thinking of olive oil more or less
And clove oil is a thing
n' quite obviously the different types of fruit & seeds can produce an incredible difference in flavours. So I was wondering how such a sweeter variety of the clove fruit would taste as an extracted oil. Probably different than the usual extract, I'm guessing- but it's food for thought I suppose. I'll never know personally, but if you ever get a chance to revisit this spice as a topic I think it'd be wonderful if you could touch up on the oil compounds that these spices (or fruiting bodies related to the spices) can offer!
Thank you again for the video. Was a pleasure to watch and learn!
Another great video. Very informative and interesting. Small correction. Syzygium with a second y, not Syzagium with an a. 😮
Thank you. Besides being correct, Syzygium.is also easier to pronounce and remember.
As always, a really interesting and thought-provoking episode, Jared!
Information I forgot I needed. And thanks for taking one for the team.
Haven’t even seen the video yet ,but i was waiting for this episode for 2 years
Love the history almost more than the tasting, the story behind these fruits is so interesting
That island name animation was funny
And awesome!
you are probably the human who has eaten the most different kinds of fruits. Who else ever had this opportunity in history? Amazing!
I love your history lesson as much as watching you eat the fruits.
I love the spicy history portion, great content! If somebody had asked me a while back if I would watch a channel about a guy going around the world eating fruit, I might have told you no. My answer has changed
Cinnamon, allspice, ginger, and clove is one of my favorite combinations of spices. I love it in tea, pumpkin pie, bread or cake. It was fun to learn a little more about cloves!
Thank you😊❤
Your videos are so interesting! Thank you your going on these quests and sharing with us!
Can there be ONE edible plant that people didn't mass murder for? Good lord it bothers me how bloody all our food is.
Ummm, grass?
Actually there is a LOTS of edible grass in Java Indonesia
We eat it mainly with peanut sauce (Lothek, Gado Gado, Ketoprak, etc)
@@WolfgangUlricsugar cane and rice (and bamboo) is technically grass.
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 sugar cane and rice are not free from mass murder
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 sugar cane literally the one with most KDA (censored) entire story of human
It took a lot of time and effort but these videos have been so high quality.
Sounds like a great cooking ingredient that we just don't get because cloves are far more practical for distribution/storage.
The history is super interesting 🤔..thanks for the great research! Keep up thr great work!
I'm curious, ive never tried clove fruit, but drawing from your description of its flavour profile, I feel like it would make a pretty excellent coffee substitute.
the full deep dive sounds good for a future ep
Interesting video. Haven't thought about Syzygium aromaticum as such a tropical and historically rich plant species before. Keep up the great work.
What a great video! I had no idea that they fruited!
Oh yea i like the history turn the channel has taken recently, good stuff.
Bro's on his dark history arc, also it took me this long to realize you said 'orang kaya' in the original video, the way you said it made it sound like some cool leader name but it's literally just 'rich people', malay shares a lot of the indonesian language which is why I know.
Fairly sure he mentioned the meaning in the video, though.
He went into that in the nutmeg video. In a slightly optimistic way though because in reality it just sounded like plutocracy.
@@Nyerguds''Orang kaya'' mean rich people used often in vernacular indonesian and malay, but in Maluku and Papua it became a title for elders/oligarch who made the decisions for the communities. No doubt they were also richer compared to their peers and probably also why they were called that.
@@MumrikDKThat is not always the case however sometimes it can really just means king like Namatota Kingdom in Kaimana, traced to Orangkaya of Miwara.
>"Malay shares a lot of the indonesian language"
The Indonesian state literally adopted and rebranded the ages-old language, especially the Riau dialect not so different from in Melaka; even Indonesian linguists know. "Malay shares a lot of the Indonesian language" is as weird as saying "English shares a lot of the American language".
After considerable research I read
only two cloves a day is a recommended limit of consumption.
If one has respiratory complications as asthma etc.one can get astonishing relief by holding two cloves in your mouth apparetly they eventually dissolve.
I get extraordinary relief long before the disintegration happens
at which point I no longer keep them in my mouth.
Anyone else get significant relief from shortness of breath by consuming cloves in this fashion?
Thanks for the great subjects on tour channel .
Great information.
Only two a day as what was written warned of doing harm to other parts of your body when consumption of more then just 2 cloves
Better late then never. We did not get this information in school's history classes in the Netherlands in my time. So thank you for the background information (and especially the one in your nutmeg video!).
A lot of countries have problems in telling their children about the genocides their ancestors did. We really need some sort of international protocol for that.
3:10 Given that it was the Dutch, maybe that was spelled "a Dyck move"
With dried seeds like that, you don't CHEW but hold them in the cheek as a mouth refresher. Also good to numb a sore tooth.