Black Dinner: The Betrayal that Inspired the Red Wedding

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @onewowen
    @onewowen Год назад +124

    Sometime I hate the word 'Plot armor doesn't exist in real life' because some people are just that lucky sometime.

    • @Catkovi
      @Catkovi Год назад +13

      Sometime, but not literally always

    • @Blackmamba648
      @Blackmamba648 11 месяцев назад +17

      @@Catkoviyou’d be surprised

    • @mohammadhosseini6675
      @mohammadhosseini6675 9 месяцев назад

      @@CatkoviAdolf Hitler plot armour intensifies

    • @dylanmoreno16
      @dylanmoreno16 8 месяцев назад +2

      Genghis Khan is literally our world’s MC

    • @grungeg7086
      @grungeg7086 5 месяцев назад +1

      right. like how many nazis and perpetrators of unit 731 got to live out the rest of their lives in peace

  • @l.4165
    @l.4165 Год назад +232

    Hot pie remembers

    • @Baelor-Breakspear
      @Baelor-Breakspear 9 месяцев назад +4

      Ser Hot of Pie is his name, please use his correct name. He’s earned it

    • @bearholdensharkslux4791
      @bearholdensharkslux4791 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Baelor-Breakspearcall him what he is

    • @Baelor-Breakspear
      @Baelor-Breakspear 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@bearholdensharkslux4791 lord hot pie??

    • @LisaAnn777
      @LisaAnn777 5 месяцев назад

      I am sure he remembers dessert.

    • @brucewayne799
      @brucewayne799 4 месяца назад

      If you smell what the hot pie is cooking

  • @Bookwitherin
    @Bookwitherin Год назад +77

    This episode…is what changed me. Changed my life, broke my heart, broke me, destroyed everything I once was! Lol! Literally! I do my yearly re watch of GoT, and still dread this episode every single damn time. I am forever a die hard Stark fan. Thanks for another great video! ❤

  • @DrGaslight187
    @DrGaslight187 Год назад +80

    That’s a fact about Dacey Mormont. RIP to the fiery young cub. 😢

    • @CrusaderChris
      @CrusaderChris  Год назад +20

      Still haven’t forgiven George for that one 😔

  • @sculptureofsound2
    @sculptureofsound2 Год назад +18

    "Out-of-pocketly" is my new favorite adverb.

  • @Titantro
    @Titantro Год назад +13

    There is also the blood party in Roskilde. It was a reconciliation feast where 3 kings in Denmark meet and one king Svend betrayed the others, killed King Knud and King Valdemar escaped an startet the war that would unite Denmark🇩🇰

  • @Jacaerys4life
    @Jacaerys4life Год назад +68

    Unfortunately Robb's Tully half got the better of him after laying with Jeyne Westerling. People say he married her because he's like his father but Ned forsworn the honor of Ashara Dayne to marry Cat and secure Hoster Tully's support in Robert's Rebellion. If Robb was more like his father here he would have married Roslin Frey. Tullys just have no good sense, except the Blackfish that is.

    • @tasha7726
      @tasha7726 Год назад +6

      Dafuq you talking about?

    • @GoodMorningBeautiful4
      @GoodMorningBeautiful4 Год назад +4

      I never thought about it like that before lol I think you're right

    • @StickWithTrigger
      @StickWithTrigger Год назад +10

      Ned Stark was never betrothed to Ashara Dayne and was never confirmed to have had a relationship with her

  • @sanitizerwilson1599
    @sanitizerwilson1599 Год назад +11

    It wasn't the only event that inspired there was Glencoe Massacre that happen in Scotland in 1692AD

  • @laur_bk
    @laur_bk Год назад +26

    Have you heard about the Blood Feast of Roskilde in 1157? after the danish king Erik III died, the country was split into three kingdoms, lead by kings all saying they have a legitimate claim to the throne. One is Eriks cousin Knud, the other his nephew Valdemar and the last his illegitimate son Sven.
    The three Kings are at war for ten years but finally negotiate a peace treaty. They hold a big feast to celebrate the new found peace, but one of the kings Knud conspire against the others, and tries to kill the other kings at the feast. Seems a lot like the red wedding too

  • @proffnanners
    @proffnanners 11 месяцев назад +13

    I bless the rains down in castemere was so savage lol

  • @bretto7
    @bretto7 Год назад +5

    this is the exact content I am looking for. thank you

  • @siamihari8717
    @siamihari8717 Год назад +14

    Even in real life, we Humans have deeply rooted social traditions that seemingly transeed written law.
    Its almost like we devloped a stark revoltion to certain actions one can take under certain situations during our evolution to be more able to cooperate.

  • @annavafeiadou4420
    @annavafeiadou4420 Год назад +6

    Thank you for this video!!Amazing one I didn't know about black dinner before I read those books so I didn't thought of it when I read the red wedding in the books but I thought of something else St Bartholomew's massacre ... it was also a "red wedding".It was later I learned about the black dinner and that it was the inspiration of it!! Thank you again for this one I love historical inspirations explained!!!!

  • @loudradialem5233
    @loudradialem5233 8 месяцев назад +7

    About Tywin's question in the end of this video, one can question him why doesn't he surrender if he cares so much for the thousands dying for his side isn't free of guilty.

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 4 месяца назад

      Because Tywin is a kind of guy who committed war crimes first, then rationalized it later.

  • @AnakinBlackfyre
    @AnakinBlackfyre Год назад +4

    Loving the intro by the way.

  • @priscilla4301
    @priscilla4301 Год назад +18

    Great video! Have you heard about the Stockholm Bloodbath? Executions that followed after a banquet, also very similar to the red wedding :)

    • @CrusaderChris
      @CrusaderChris  Год назад +12

      Yes! Definitely similar to the Black Dinner - a bit bloodier too. I believe something like 80 people were executed, a lot more than the Black Dinner, but not quite on the Red Wedding's level.

  • @Taykoe88
    @Taykoe88 Год назад +4

    Loved the Oblivion opening scene showing the emperor getting killed lol.

  • @RedSpade37
    @RedSpade37 Год назад +5

    The Red Wedding made the insides of my ears sweat.

  • @GoodMorningBeautiful4
    @GoodMorningBeautiful4 Год назад +2

    Why Tywin is top 3 favorites for me. He's a cruel and brutal man, but he's got a point.

  • @ratgirl34
    @ratgirl34 Год назад +4

    Oh! Please please do The Wall/Hadrians wall! I’ve been thinking about it ever since I watched some history of Rome documentary’s. But I’ve been too busy to actually research it…

  • @Knight860
    @Knight860 Год назад +20

    At least justice was served to Tywin by way of Tyrion. Roose may not be long for The Winds of Winter, if Stannis is successful in taking Winterfell, and Walder Frey's kids are going to turn on each other like rabid dogs when he either dies of old age or Arya shows him how winter will come for him eventually.

    • @Jacaerys4life
      @Jacaerys4life Год назад +5

      Snow and ghosts are coming for them.

    • @Knight860
      @Knight860 Год назад +7

      @@Jacaerys4life or Nymeria's wolf pack.

    • @Jacaerys4life
      @Jacaerys4life Год назад +7

      @@Knight860 Arya is believed by many in Westeros to be with the Stranger. She is one of the "ghosts" I was referring to.

    • @Knight860
      @Knight860 Год назад +1

      @@Jacaerys4life Good Point.

  • @ReiMari12
    @ReiMari12 Год назад +11

    Look, sometimes you just gotta stab a guy. If that means guest right is broken than so be it.

    • @CrusaderChris
      @CrusaderChris  Год назад +8

      His sword slipped, it was an accident

    • @ReiMari12
      @ReiMari12 Год назад +1

      Absolutely

    • @MVargic
      @MVargic Год назад

      Roose and Robb Stark were both guests under Walder Frey's roof, guests killing fellow guests does not break guest right. Only the Freys broke it because they were the hosts.

  • @TheBlackBride
    @TheBlackBride Год назад +2

    subbed. this is a nice treat of a vid!

  • @Iron-Bridge
    @Iron-Bridge 5 месяцев назад +5

    As bad as it looked in the show, it felt a lot worse in the book. George has this way with words..

  • @user-uq4gr5nl5o
    @user-uq4gr5nl5o Год назад +6

    True, only Tywin ended up killing ten thousand at dinner

  • @tla2119
    @tla2119 Год назад +4

    this happened in real life to my uncle's tribe back home, but it was not a wedding, just a feast. 20k kill count allegedly

  • @thisfacebelievesyou8862
    @thisfacebelievesyou8862 7 месяцев назад +5

    “Out of Pocketedly” 😂

  • @Cletus_the_Elder
    @Cletus_the_Elder Год назад +4

    Historical yellow lunch came with tea and an egg roll.

  • @twiss9341
    @twiss9341 Год назад +2

    Thx. Cool vid idea 👍

  • @quaylandlavine9527
    @quaylandlavine9527 Год назад +1

    7:10 is how I'll describe all my behavior from now on!

  • @Hepheat75
    @Hepheat75 3 месяца назад

    Love these random history videos

  • @barbarossa1780
    @barbarossa1780 2 месяца назад

    I find it very hard to believe that Jaime Lannister, a childhood prodigy knight and obviously training from dawn to dusk, never learned to fight with his off hand. Even in a world of shield bearing.

  • @Baelor-Breakspear
    @Baelor-Breakspear 9 месяцев назад +2

    Walder Frey was a great uncle as well. Never trust a great uncle.

  • @shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564
    @shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564 Год назад +3

    So there were two different William Douglases?

  • @stingerjohnny9951
    @stingerjohnny9951 6 месяцев назад +1

    Unless of course that Great Uncle is named Stan….actually not him either 😜

  • @bradwolf07
    @bradwolf07 Год назад +2

    Epic inspiration

  • @seermayton-el3488
    @seermayton-el3488 2 месяца назад

    Hopefully, it will involve what Bran said in his story about the Rat King. Please let it be Lady Stoneheart. Walder Frey becoming insane and feral, becoming the Cannibal of the Twins. And not Aryia with her super OP shapeshifter assassin abilities.

  • @ctobi707
    @ctobi707 6 месяцев назад +2

    the massacre of the memluks in egypt

  • @nont18411
    @nont18411 3 месяца назад

    16:37 Except that the Starks never pillaged common folks. It was the Lannisters who always did it. This wasn’t a move by the Lannisters to save lives. This was a move for them to wipe their own ass and justify their war crimes.

  • @ayiza8511
    @ayiza8511 Год назад +3

    How the hell is Dacey Mormont the rightful Queen in the north

  • @eriik2667
    @eriik2667 Год назад +2

    R+L=C.C. (Crusader Chris)

  • @massacolonel5950
    @massacolonel5950 Год назад +1

    What cartoon is that at the beginning of the intro?

  • @FunkBastid
    @FunkBastid 2 месяца назад

    “Appropriately, but somewhat out-of-pocketedly called Fat Walda.”

  • @vx8431
    @vx8431 Год назад

    The law of hospitality seems like straight out of Viking/Germanic pagan traditions since there the law hospitality was very real.

  • @andreaszmavridisz3592
    @andreaszmavridisz3592 Год назад +1

    The brave companion wasnot rooses bannerman. They are a freelanceimg company originally hired by tywin (and probably funded by oberin martel)

    • @CrusaderChris
      @CrusaderChris  Год назад +2

      Vargo and Roose Bolton made a deal that Vargo would become Lord of Harrenhal if he joins Robb's cause. Also, Roose says "He is my man, as I am King Robb's man." So Roose sees him not so much as a sellsword but closer to a bannerman.

    • @sanitizerwilson1599
      @sanitizerwilson1599 Год назад +2

      Oberyn Martell? Why would Oberyn Martell have any to do with Tywin????????

  • @jkb1603
    @jkb1603 2 месяца назад

    The North Remembers

  • @ebonymiller3466
    @ebonymiller3466 Год назад

    First time robb going to battle n he wins them all

  • @tylerchapman9234
    @tylerchapman9234 6 месяцев назад +1

    Boars head. Not a bull

  • @TheKeyser94
    @TheKeyser94 Год назад

    Jon Snow is dead, by the same mistake that his father Ned committed, and there is no chance in hell that he would be resurrected, the TV Show already probe the amount of plot holes and out of characters moments that would create, George RR Martin would be very stupid to resurrect Jon Snow out pure fanservices.

    • @_S.D._
      @_S.D._ 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's not unheard of in ISOIAF for characters to be resurrected. Beric, Mel, Lady Stoneheart. It's possible, especially if he's one of the heads of the dragon from the prophecy. If that does happen, I'm sure GRRM will do it better than D&D.

    • @TheKeyser94
      @TheKeyser94 11 месяцев назад

      @@_S.D._ Yeah, but every of those characters resurrected either as corpse or lose part of themselves, as Beric put it, he always lose part of himself every-time that the Thoros resurrect him, no if he want to add the same out of character moments and plot holes and D&D, Melisandre is a Stannis loyalist to the day she dies, nothing would change her mind that Stannis is the Azor Ahai, there is also the tiny, little fact that she doesn't known how to bring back people, Thoros didn't teach her, and she had no loyalty whatsoever to Jon Snow, Jon Snow by the end of the day was the bastard son of Ned Stark and die, like his brother Robb making the same mistakes, no one speak of that stupid fan theory anymore, and that is for the best, anyone put Jon Snow in a pedestal, and I glad that Old George bring him down, even that he use him to promote Games of Thrones, shamelessly. The best that you can hope is that Jon Snow become a Warg.

  • @CxerRy96
    @CxerRy96 Год назад

    Political Sawant Joffrey lmaoo

  • @sylvainmarc2638
    @sylvainmarc2638 Год назад

    GRRM / THE GRIM

  • @jaydee9759
    @jaydee9759 4 месяца назад

    They did to the January 6th people. the same thing they fid on game of thrones for the black dinner. Open the doors and let them in. Once inside they closed the doors on them and attacked them. It was a well planned out ambush.