They went from a party band to elevator music within the space of two albums. 5150 was a decent album. Loved the sound of Eddie’s Steinberger on two of the tracks. Ou812 was a huge shock to me. I couldn’t believe this was 3/4 of the people who gave us Tora Tora and Unchained. It’s probably got better with age but I suppose you also get used to syphalis after 34 years.
I’ve always wondered how Good Enough and Summer Nights from 5150 would have sounded like had Dave stayed. Supposedly they were written and worked up when he was still in the band. I wonder if there are any demos of those songs with Dave in the VH vault.
Appreciate your reviews and everyone has the right to like whatever version of the band they liked. Eddie Van Halen was the guitarist on the Sammy Hagar era albums so if they are that terrible shouldn’t he share some of the blame. After all he thought the songs were good enough to record and perform live.
I remember when Dave left the band and me thinking....Well, that's it. End of an era. And it was. They complain how Sammy de-balled VH, but don't forget: Eddie wanted more keyboards in the band. He wanted more melody. That's why he and Sammy got on so well. Till they didn't. It's that simple man.
Hey Ralph! (Jim F here) I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't "hate" the Van Hagar era or Sammy himself, but it does not hold a candle to Van Halen with DLR. I also think as time goes on my appreciation for Van Halen (DLR) just grows and grows, while my appreciation for Van Hagar sinks. A lot of their stuff I liked when new doesn't hold up very well as it ages. Chickenfoot holds up better than most Van Hagar.
Van Halen II definitely wins for me! In case you want more classic Van Halen VS Van Hagar albums to put against each other, here you go👇🏻😉 Diver Down VS Balance Women and Children First VS 5150 Van Halen (Debut) VS For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge Van Halen (debut) VS OU812 (just take Eruption out and they have the same amount of tracks)
I'll never forget the first time I heard When It's Love. I said to myself "this is 3/4 of the band that 2 albums ago did Hot For Teacher. Did Dave castrate these guys on the way out?" Great video as always! Can't wait for more VH verus Van Gina
Hey Ralph, the song 1984 originated as Michael Anthony's bass solo on the Hide Your Sheep tour in 82. You can hear it on a bunch of different shows from that tour. It's pretty much note for note w/o the high keyboard part
I hear so many people say that Sammy wrote more grown up lyrics than Dave and I've always thought that was insane. Dave's writing was so much more clever. OU812 is their weakest album. I do like Van Hagar but you always make me laugh and you make excellent points about why I shouldn't. Lol. This video was so great. Take care.
This was the best and funniest analysis I've ever heard. You nailed the Hagar era. Total juvenile shit. I did buy most of the Hagar era stuff cause I was such a HUGE Eddie fan. Very depressing time to be a VH fan. Love this video and truly was laughing during most of it.
That line in The Wall, "Look, Mummy, there's an aeroplane up in the sky," is the opening to "Goodbye Blue Sky." The song is about the bombing of London during WW2 (or any aerial bombardment, really.) That line spoken by the child is so chilling to me because, normally, something like that would be a typical, sweet thing a child might say. An airplane in the sky is an exciting sight for a child. But in this instance, the child is naively remarking upon the very thing that is coming to rain down death and destruction on him, his family, and his city. The Wall is a god-damned masterpiece. The film is one of the very few times that an album or a band's music has been turned into a movie and it actually turned out to be nearly as much of a masterpiece as the original. That song scares the hell out of me, while also being as beautiful a thing as you can imagine. Just like the child's words.
Sammy Hagar probably thought he was being clever with the title of the album "Oh. You ate one too?" but it really sounded stupid. OU812 is Van Gina's worst album.
Bro, you got me cracking up, I laugh for a half hour straight on this one. My fav new past time is hearing you loving to hate on that ramen noodle head. Cheers!
1. You're No Good = Mine All Mine 2. Dance The Night Away = When It's Love 3. Somebody Get Me A Doctor 4. Bottoms Up! 5. Outta Love Again 6. Light Up The Sky 7. Spanish Fly 8. D.O.A. 9. Women In Love... 10. Beautiful Girls Van Halen II - 9, OU812 - 1 (My testosterone dipped a bit on track 2. I recovered on the next 8 tracks).
What's remarkable is that they recorded VH II in less than a week. OU812 took 6 months, yet didn't they say it was "rushed" at the time because they were booked to do Monsters of Rock? I never got around to listening to OU812 (there were better hard rock and metal albums that year, and undeniably some that sucked) until 1993 or 1994 when I went to go see them for the first time.
Haven't listened to that tape in about 20 years, but I had to search Feels So Good for the Barney the Dinosaur farts. 🤣🤣 Must cleanse my speakers (and ears) with Light Up The Sky.
saw Van Halen in 1979 at Simplot Stadium in Caldwell Idaho. If I recall, it was right when VHII had just come out. 2000 in attendence at $6.50 per ticket. I would rather hear Dave saying "I love the little way the line runs up the back of the stocking, That suit is you!, reached down between my legs than Sammy singing Hey waitress! and all the Yeah yeah yeahs Daves indian whoops, pig noises and all that is preferable to me than sammy sccreeching yeahs
I too could never get into much Van Hagar, other than a few songs it just kind of sucked. When the first VHagar came out honestly I was like what happened to Eddie. Ou812 has a bargain bin vibe
I am blessed to have grown up in the Dave era. Beyond awesome. Ozzy, Van Halen, Dio Sabbath, Ramones, Mercyful Fate, early thrash, Evil Dead and gore flicks....fuck.
Those 6 DLR records are perfection. That's why if you hear VH on the radio, it's Dave. It sounds as relevant and fresh as it did 40 years ago. Van hagar is like lover boy, some people liked it at the time, but now everyone laughs.
@@davidl570 Loverboy sounds good as long as you don't have to watch Mike Reno in his aerobic looking stage outfit over dramatic facial expressions on every note he sings and that Pauly Shore headband definitely has got to go
david lee roth is a whole better than sammy hagar ever thought of being and you are right about eddy van halen he was the greatest guitarist who ever lived
I definitely like Sam Halen more than you do. But this isn’t a fair fight. VH 2 is a far superior album even if you removed the vocals from both. The DLR years are just so damn good. 🤘
i went ahead and bought the van gina albums up to F.U.C.K. then realized it's never getting better. i'm so glad dave came back even though he was bad shadow of his former self. at least they played the real VH songs again in concert; and different kind of truth was a great album i thought.
That's another thing young people will never get to experience hearing Eddie Van Halen reinvent the electric guitar playing wise and hearing running with the devil for the first time more to me it changes but I'd have to say unchained today is my favorite Van Halen song God there's so much stuff that they'll never get to experience long live Eddie
Another hilarious Van Halen vs Van Gina matchup! While I prefer original DLR, MA and the Van Halen brothers over all other lineups, I appreciate all incarnations of VH (including Gary Cherone) but Ralph cracks me up on this as he does anytime he talks about Sammy The Red Wacker Hagar. However, I gotta know (if you're reading this Ralph) had Eddie not died and was healthy and they went ahead with the propused 'Kitchen Sink' Tour would you have attended just to see the classic lineup again.
@@almosthuman56 I definitely would've went. I never got to see the original VH but I did see the Wolf era twice. Hey, any chance we could see a track by track of VH III vs a Vangina or Extreme album?
This has got to be an easy clean sweep for VH2. I never listened to any Van Hagar era album start to finish. I admit to likening s few songs but not near as much as any Roth era song - Your No Good (I never even heard that Hagar era track), dance the night away ( I actually had to think on that one cause it’s one Hagar era song I do like), somebody get me a dr. (Easy and never heard that Hagar track), bottoms up, out of love again (my favorite VH song), light up the sky (top 5 VH song), Spanish fly, DOA (another top 5 VH song), woman in love, beautiful girls. Yep clean sweep. One listenable track on OU812 and it’s the ballad and still not better than the worst song on VH2 which is Dance The Night Away in my opinion. It’s only the worst song because all the other are so great not because it bad.
Mine All Mine Dance The Night Away Somebody Get Me A Doctor Bottoms Up Outta Love Again Light Up The Sky Black And Blue D.O.A. Women In Love Beautiful Girls Those two Van Hagar tracks I picked are my two favorite Van Hagar tracks, but other than that this was an easy 8-2 win for VHII.
a good idea would be do a "Line By Line" lyric contest. pick a song from Van Gina and a Gene Simmons song from the mid-late 80s, and compare the lyrics line by line to see which one sucks more. LOL could end up being more of a comedy thing... hahahaha
1. Mine All Mine 2. When It's Love 3. Somebody Get Me A Doctor 4. Bottom's Up 5. Outta Love Again 6. Light Up The Sky 7. Spanish Fly 8. D.O.A 9. Women In Love 10. Beautiful Girls Van Halen II - 8 OU812 - 2 I'm probably in the minority but I like When It's Love , Feels So Good and Finish What Ya Started. I acknowledge that Van Halen II is the way better album though.
Hey, I wouldn't let the Sammy shit and van Halen 3 near the classic van Halen CDs. But, let's do this... 1. You're no good 2. Dance the night away 3. Somebody get me a doctor 4. Bottoms up 5. Out of love again 6. Light up the sky 7. Spanish fly 8. D.O.A. 9. Women in love... 10. Beautiful girls I got the Sammy Hagar van-gina stuff for completist reasons after Eddie died. Maybe I missed the boat on van Hagar. But, it's like missing the Titanic.
Funny video as always. I agree that Mine all Mine is Hagar digging back for something better but the dorky keyboards didn't help and though Michael Anthony is a great background singer, his efforts sound silly like "ooh ooh; I'll send a message!" I always thought I was the only one who enjoyed their cover of Your No Good the way it was delivered with the raw and legit rocking nature by DLR. I agree that EVH (God rest his soul) reminds me a tad of Paul Stanley who was quick to push something like Psycho Circus ("best album since Destroyer lol") and then take it back once the album came out and disappointed. Diver Down isn't their best but the original supportive narrative changed.
While you're more of a Van Halen fan than me i've listened to Van Halen 2 more times than i've heard OU812. I don't even remember how most things went on OU812
Contrary to popular belief, EVH wasn't the nicest corporate rocker in the world. Van Halen were the hookers of rock( a Phil Moog, Hit Parader review quote), albeit the best in history. You're No Good 2. Dance the Night Way 3. Somebody Get Me a Doctor (Sammy wrote Somebody get me a Procter) 4. Bottom's Up 5. Outta Love Again...Diver Down highly under rated. Fair Warning is the best per pound. 6. Light up the Sky 7. Spanish Fly 8. D.O. A. 9. Women in Love 10. Beautiful Girls. Another classic quaote by rolling stone. 'Van Halen replace the most obnoxious singer in rock with the second most.'
Pretty sure Van Halen covering Your No Good inspired the movie Cotton Candy. At least the idea of a Hard Rock band covering I Shot the Sherrif, which also sounded absolutely nothing like the original
My girlfriend loves all the sappy love stuff with Hagar so it's usually a lot of torture trying to get through when she wants to play that stuff, I'm definitely more of a Roth era Van Halen fan
I can tell I'm on the wrong page for sure. I never knew music was a competition . Numbers don't lie though '' Of those four Hagar albums, all four hit a peak on the U.S. charts of #1. The highest-charting Roth-led Van Halen album was a #2, and it took until 1984 to snatch that. (He repeated the deuce in 2012 with A Different Kind of Truth.)''
1984 was 2nd to Thriller. ADKOT was 2nd to Adele's 21. Shit comparison really. And you have to realise those Hagar albums had the brand name Van Halen behind them and a weakened playing field in regards to other competing artists in the nadir of the late 80's/early 90's. Even Without You was the most requested song of all time on rock radio, it was all hype, all of the continued success benefitted from the House that Roth (era) built.
Here is the definitive list of songs that represent the worst of Hagar’s lyrics: Good Enough, Summer Nights, Source of Infection, Black and Blue, Sucker in a 3 Piece, Spanked, In n’ Out…. I could keep going, but I would be listing almost 40 songs across 4 albums that have aged so badly. Not only was DLR the fun in Van Halen, but he was the brains as well.
I'm not a Van Hagar hater but VH2 is gonna crush OU812, I'm sure lol Mine All Mine Dance The Night Away Somebody Get Me A Doctor Bottoms Up Outta Love Again Light Up the Sky Spanish Fly DOA Women In Love Beautiful Girls VH2 wins 9-1
to me Light up the Sky and Feels so good are two different songs .. if im hanging out with guys I'll put on Light up the Sky but if im getting down with some chick I'll put on Feels so Good .. i actually like both songs .. it just depends on the situation ..
I saw the title, I just started to laugh, no comparison. An epic classic versus poppy fluff. It's funny because so many Hagardzombies defend it like there is no tomorrow. Poor suckers. 0U812, people say its clever, but it was taken from Cheech and Chong. If only they would have kept "Down In Flames" instead of using that music for "You're No Good", it would have been that much better. I always thought "Mine All Mine" was the heaviest track on the album, which is saying something. When It's Love, truly a Mastersh!t in ballessness. F#cK I hate that song and I love EVH. Cabo Wabo, Hagar wouldn't have the fortune if it weren't for it being on this album. Even the VH brothers didn't want to be associated with that song that only benefitted Spammy, forcing him to get his tattoo during 2004 so he could still promote his cabo brand. F' him. I can't talk anymore. You hit the nail on head again, truly a depressing time to be a VH fan.
Personally, I like Van Halen and I like Van Hagar. But I think it's kinda strange whenever I hear anyone prefers Van Hagar. I like all Van Halen and Van Hagar, But Diamond Dave is unbeatable. He's irreplaceable. OU812 is a great 8/10 album for me. But Van Halen II isn't anything like OU812. Van Halen II is a masterpiece of hard rock that influenced everyone and OU812 is just kinda Van Hagar. It's just kinda there.
I'd put my track by track, but it'd just be the track listing of Van Halen II, a perfect album along with the debut, Women and Children First, and Fair Warning. I actually quite like the Sammy stuff, but OU812 is the worst album they did with him
I thought some of the music on OU812 would have sounded great if Dave sang on it and it had that classic brown sound with Templeman producing. Like you said, if you stripped away the keyboards on Mine all Mine and it was beefed up, it would have been a much better song. AFU and Source of Infection musically is pretty rockin and with better production I could hear Dave injecting his stamp on them. OU812 just sounds weak and dated.
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They went from a party band to elevator music within the space of two albums. 5150 was a decent album. Loved the sound of Eddie’s Steinberger on two of the tracks. Ou812 was a huge shock to me. I couldn’t believe this was 3/4 of the people who gave us Tora Tora and Unchained. It’s probably got better with age but I suppose you also get used to syphalis after 34 years.
Did you know You're no good is NOT an original by Linda Ronstadt?? The original is from 1963 by Dee Dee Warwick
I’ve always wondered how Good Enough and Summer Nights from 5150 would have sounded like had Dave stayed. Supposedly they were written and worked up when he was still in the band. I wonder if there are any demos of those songs with Dave in the VH vault.
As for VH II. DOA would’ve been a great album opener. That riff then the drums kick in. Bang! Classic Van Halen!
The second VH album is unbeatable!! Classic in every sense of the word!! Love your reviews!! Cool T shirt!! VH forever!! 🤟🤟🤟
That second album was highly underrated especially D.O.A. which my opinion is their most underrated song of all time
Appreciate your reviews and everyone has the right to like whatever version of the band they liked. Eddie Van Halen was the guitarist on the Sammy Hagar era albums so if they are that terrible shouldn’t he share some of the blame. After all he thought the songs were good enough to record and perform live.
I remember when Dave left the band and me thinking....Well, that's it. End of an era. And it was.
They complain how Sammy de-balled VH, but don't forget: Eddie wanted more keyboards in the band. He wanted more melody. That's why he and Sammy got on so well. Till they didn't.
It's that simple man.
And I have blamed Eddie as much as Sammy countless times.
@@almosthuman56 Yes, I know. And rightfully so. They had hits after, but God they were so cheesy!
@@almosthuman56 Plus Eddie had his finger in Valerie B's Belt loop being led around... that was the end. The betrayal of Dave.
Hey Ralph! (Jim F here) I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't "hate" the Van Hagar era or Sammy himself, but it does not hold a candle to Van Halen with DLR. I also think as time goes on my appreciation for Van Halen (DLR) just grows and grows, while my appreciation for Van Hagar sinks. A lot of their stuff I liked when new doesn't hold up very well as it ages. Chickenfoot holds up better than most Van Hagar.
Van Halen II definitely wins for me!
In case you want more classic Van Halen VS Van Hagar albums to put against each other, here you go👇🏻😉
Diver Down VS Balance
Women and Children First VS 5150
Van Halen (Debut) VS For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
Van Halen (debut) VS OU812 (just take Eruption out and they have the same amount of tracks)
I'll never forget the first time I heard When It's Love. I said to myself "this is 3/4 of the band that 2 albums ago did Hot For Teacher. Did Dave castrate these guys on the way out?"
Great video as always! Can't wait for more VH verus Van Gina
Well, David lost Billy Sheehan & Steve Vai from his band with the *Skyscraper* album & tour--so, he wasn't doing that much better himself.
VHII most underated of their collection. It is a masterpiece!!!!
How about doing DLR solo vs Van Hagar?
Yes!
Hey Ralph, the song 1984 originated as Michael Anthony's bass solo on the Hide Your Sheep tour in 82. You can hear it on a bunch of different shows from that tour. It's pretty much note for note w/o the high keyboard part
Outta love is so badass, its got so much swing vibe. Alex does shine on that
I CANT STOP LAUGHING OF YOUR ANALYSIS AND LYRICAL INTERPRETATION OF VAN GINA'S, "W HEN ITS LOVE."
Van Halen 2...I can't stand the Hagar years...It sucks...
"Look Mummy, there's an aeroplane up in the sky."
I hear so many people say that Sammy wrote more grown up lyrics than Dave and I've always thought that was insane. Dave's writing was so much more clever. OU812 is their weakest album. I do like Van Hagar but you always make me laugh and you make excellent points about why I shouldn't. Lol. This video was so great. Take care.
This was the best and funniest analysis I've ever heard. You nailed the Hagar era. Total juvenile shit. I did buy most of the Hagar era stuff cause I was such a HUGE Eddie fan. Very depressing time to be a VH fan. Love this video and truly was laughing during most of it.
That line in The Wall, "Look, Mummy, there's an aeroplane up in the sky," is the opening to "Goodbye Blue Sky." The song is about the bombing of London during WW2 (or any aerial bombardment, really.) That line spoken by the child is so chilling to me because, normally, something like that would be a typical, sweet thing a child might say. An airplane in the sky is an exciting sight for a child. But in this instance, the child is naively remarking upon the very thing that is coming to rain down death and destruction on him, his family, and his city. The Wall is a god-damned masterpiece. The film is one of the very few times that an album or a band's music has been turned into a movie and it actually turned out to be nearly as much of a masterpiece as the original. That song scares the hell out of me, while also being as beautiful a thing as you can imagine. Just like the child's words.
Sammy Hagar probably thought he was being clever with the title of the album "Oh. You ate one too?" but it really sounded stupid. OU812 is Van Gina's worst album.
Bro, you got me cracking up, I laugh for a half hour straight on this one. My fav new past time is hearing you loving to hate on that ramen noodle head. Cheers!
Man I thought you were about to let You’re No Good lose. It took you a hell of a long time to say it’s a kick ass song! I love the whole album.
"let's see what this song will loose to.." best line of the review! lololo
My only Van Hagar experience was at Monsters of Rock 1988 in NJ. I didn't want to stay for that shit. But a friend of mine was a total EVH freak.
Absolutely classic!! Love your reviews!! Van Halen forever!!
Your crackin' me up! Love your rants and ridicules! You're pretty much right about everything..
1. You're No Good = Mine All Mine
2. Dance The Night Away = When It's Love
3. Somebody Get Me A Doctor
4. Bottoms Up!
5. Outta Love Again
6. Light Up The Sky
7. Spanish Fly
8. D.O.A.
9. Women In Love...
10. Beautiful Girls
Van Halen II - 9,
OU812 - 1
(My testosterone dipped a bit on track 2. I recovered on the next 8 tracks).
What's remarkable is that they recorded VH II in less than a week. OU812 took 6 months, yet didn't they say it was "rushed" at the time because they were booked to do Monsters of Rock? I never got around to listening to OU812 (there were better hard rock and metal albums that year, and undeniably some that sucked) until 1993 or 1994 when I went to go see them for the first time.
I'm dead 🤣🤣🤣 You're not wrong. Pure comedy gold!
Light Up the Sky is probably one of my top 5 Van Halen songs..... Feels So Good isn't even one of my 5 favorite songs on ou812 lol
Hillarious when you start riffin on, "Is there anyone out there who actually thinks Feels So Good is better than Light up the Sky..."
Sounds like Barney the dinosaur farted😅. You really rule ralph 😊
Haven't listened to that tape in about 20 years, but I had to search Feels So Good for the Barney the Dinosaur farts. 🤣🤣
Must cleanse my speakers (and ears) with Light Up The Sky.
I love both albums! Great video!
I pick Van Halen II .
Your shirt rocks and so do you !!
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Gonna go listen to OUT OF LOVE AGAIN by Van Halen...
saw Van Halen in 1979 at Simplot Stadium in Caldwell Idaho. If I recall, it was right when VHII had just come out. 2000 in attendence at $6.50 per ticket. I would rather hear Dave saying "I love the little way the line runs up the back of the stocking, That suit is you!, reached down between my legs than Sammy singing Hey waitress! and all the Yeah yeah yeahs Daves indian whoops, pig noises and all that is preferable to me than sammy sccreeching yeahs
I too could never get into much Van Hagar, other than a few songs it just kind of sucked. When the first VHagar came out honestly I was like what happened to Eddie. Ou812 has a bargain bin vibe
I am going with Van Halen 2
OU812 more like OU81 Poo. 😂😂
You`re RACIST! You`ll loser your JOB one day soon!!!!
I do not like it when Ralph does these Van Halen vs. Van Gina videos. They are a cold cruel reminder as to how much Van Halen fell from grace.
The truth hurts.
@@trianafoxwood7525 At least A Different Kind of Truth doesn't. (har-har)
My fav and greatest summer hard rock record ever made!!!
Without David Lee Roth they should have changed the name doesn't sound even close to the same band
I am blessed to have grown up in the Dave era. Beyond awesome. Ozzy, Van Halen, Dio Sabbath, Ramones, Mercyful Fate, early thrash, Evil Dead and gore flicks....fuck.
I never thought I would hear/see someone hate Sammy Hagar as much as my mother does
I don't hate OU812 but of course Van Halen II is a far superior album
Those 6 DLR records are perfection. That's why if you hear VH on the radio, it's Dave. It sounds as relevant and fresh as it did 40 years ago. Van hagar is like lover boy, some people liked it at the time, but now everyone laughs.
Eh, I HATE Van Gina...........................but I still like Loverboy. But to each their own.
@@davidl570 Loverboy sounds good as long as you don't have to watch Mike Reno in his aerobic looking stage outfit over dramatic facial expressions on every note he sings and that Pauly Shore headband definitely has got to go
@@godetonter4764 Yes, good point...............good point.
That's an insult to Loverboy. Their first 2 albums were pretty good.
Great commentary again!
Dave all the way
david lee roth is a whole better than sammy hagar ever thought of being and you are right about eddy van halen he was the greatest guitarist who ever lived
without Dave, I think Eddy might have ended up a Joe Satiani or a Steve Vai. A virtuoso but not a rock god
The drums are killer in I'll Wait.
I definitely like Sam Halen more than you do. But this isn’t a fair fight. VH 2 is a far superior album even if you removed the vocals from both. The DLR years are just so damn good. 🤘
No doubt those years were Damn Good times.
i went ahead and bought the van gina albums up to F.U.C.K. then realized it's never getting better. i'm so glad dave came back even though he was bad shadow of his former self. at least they played the real VH songs again in concert; and different kind of truth was a great album i thought.
I can’t believe you don’t own OU812. Maybe I should buy it for ya. 🤪
Don't make me hurt you
That's another thing young people will never get to experience hearing Eddie Van Halen reinvent the electric guitar playing wise and hearing running with the devil for the first time more to me it changes but I'd have to say unchained today is my favorite Van Halen song God there's so much stuff that they'll never get to experience long live Eddie
VH2 going up against OU812 is like Tyson in his prime going up against Napoleon Dynamite. Shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath.
maybe its because they were both the second record of each era ..
@@penaltybox76084 true but they don’t compare otherwise
Where can I get the jpeg image of the VH bathrooms? Would love to text to my brother and ask which bathroom does he use. 😜
Another hilarious Van Halen vs Van Gina matchup! While I prefer original DLR, MA and the Van Halen brothers over all other lineups, I appreciate all incarnations of VH (including Gary Cherone) but Ralph cracks me up on this as he does anytime he talks about Sammy The Red Wacker Hagar. However, I gotta know (if you're reading this Ralph) had Eddie not died and was healthy and they went ahead with the propused 'Kitchen Sink' Tour would you have attended just to see the classic lineup again.
Oh sure I would. To see the original lineup would have been epic. And while Sammy was on stage I'd go outside and hang out with the cool people.:)
@@almosthuman56 I definitely would've went. I never got to see the original VH but I did see the Wolf era twice. Hey, any chance we could see a track by track of VH III vs a Vangina or Extreme album?
@@6StringBuckeye917 I seriously doubt that. Unless somebody donates I'm not going to sit through those albums. Not a fan of either.
@@almosthuman56 lol I don't want to torture you but I may need to donate just for the entertainment
This has got to be an easy clean sweep for VH2. I never listened to any Van Hagar era album start to finish. I admit to likening s few songs but not near as much as any Roth era song - Your No Good (I never even heard that Hagar era track), dance the night away ( I actually had to think on that one cause it’s one Hagar era song I do like), somebody get me a dr. (Easy and never heard that Hagar track), bottoms up, out of love again (my favorite VH song), light up the sky (top 5 VH song), Spanish fly, DOA (another top 5 VH song), woman in love, beautiful girls. Yep clean sweep. One listenable track on OU812 and it’s the ballad and still not better than the worst song on VH2 which is Dance The Night Away in my opinion. It’s only the worst song because all the other are so great not because it bad.
This like the Hulk going up against Robin from batman🤣
IT SHOULD OF BEEN CALLED. " OH YOU SWALLOWED ONE TOO!"
Van Gina!!😆
I’m not only tardy, but I’m fuckin’ dead!!🤣🤘🔥
EDIT: younger kidz won’t know the joy of ‘side A’, be it vinyl or cassette!🔥❤️😻🤘🤘🤘
Mine All Mine
Dance The Night Away
Somebody Get Me A Doctor
Bottoms Up
Outta Love Again
Light Up The Sky
Black And Blue
D.O.A.
Women In Love
Beautiful Girls
Those two Van Hagar tracks I picked are my two favorite Van Hagar tracks, but other than that this was an easy 8-2 win for VHII.
Almost agree. But imho When its love is better than also comercial Dance The Night Away. So 7 to 3 in my oppinion
Nice Van Halen shirt
a good idea would be do a "Line By Line" lyric contest. pick a song from Van Gina and a Gene Simmons song from the mid-late 80s, and compare the lyrics line by line to see which one sucks more. LOL could end up being more of a comedy thing... hahahaha
1. Mine All Mine
2. When It's Love
3. Somebody Get Me A
Doctor
4. Bottom's Up
5. Outta Love Again
6. Light Up The Sky
7. Spanish Fly
8. D.O.A
9. Women In Love
10. Beautiful Girls
Van Halen II - 8
OU812 - 2
I'm probably in the minority but I like When It's Love , Feels So Good and Finish What Ya Started. I acknowledge that Van Halen II is the way better album though.
Hey, I wouldn't let the Sammy shit and van Halen 3 near the classic van Halen CDs.
But, let's do this...
1. You're no good
2. Dance the night away
3. Somebody get me a doctor
4. Bottoms up
5. Out of love again
6. Light up the sky
7. Spanish fly
8. D.O.A.
9. Women in love...
10. Beautiful girls
I got the Sammy Hagar van-gina stuff for completist reasons after Eddie died. Maybe I missed the boat on van Hagar. But, it's like missing the Titanic.
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Oh you hate one two. Me three
Funny video as always. I agree that Mine all Mine is Hagar digging back for something better but the dorky keyboards didn't help and though Michael Anthony is a great background singer, his efforts sound silly like "ooh ooh; I'll send a message!" I always thought I was the only one who enjoyed their cover of Your No Good the way it was delivered with the raw and legit rocking nature by DLR. I agree that EVH (God rest his soul) reminds me a tad of Paul Stanley who was quick to push something like Psycho Circus ("best album since Destroyer lol") and then take it back once the album came out and disappointed. Diver Down isn't their best but the original supportive narrative changed.
While you're more of a Van Halen fan than me i've listened to Van Halen 2 more times than i've heard OU812. I don't even remember how most things went on OU812
Contrary to popular belief, EVH wasn't the nicest corporate rocker in the world. Van Halen were the hookers of rock( a Phil Moog, Hit Parader review quote), albeit the best in history. You're No Good 2. Dance the Night Way 3. Somebody Get Me a Doctor (Sammy wrote Somebody get me a Procter) 4. Bottom's Up 5. Outta Love Again...Diver Down highly under rated. Fair Warning is the best per pound. 6. Light up the Sky 7. Spanish Fly 8. D.O. A. 9. Women in Love 10. Beautiful Girls. Another classic quaote by rolling stone. 'Van Halen replace the most obnoxious singer in rock with the second most.'
Pretty sure Van Halen covering Your No Good inspired the movie Cotton Candy. At least the idea of a Hard Rock band covering I Shot the Sherrif, which also sounded absolutely nothing like the original
Hysterical ralph😅. You know how to make me laugh 😊
Light in the sky rocks
My girlfriend loves all the sappy love stuff with Hagar so it's usually a lot of torture trying to get through when she wants to play that stuff, I'm definitely more of a Roth era Van Halen fan
I can tell I'm on the wrong page for sure. I never knew music was a competition . Numbers don't lie though '' Of those four Hagar albums, all four hit a peak on the U.S. charts of #1. The highest-charting Roth-led Van Halen album was a #2, and it took until 1984 to snatch that. (He repeated the deuce in 2012 with A Different Kind of Truth.)''
1984 was 2nd to Thriller. ADKOT was 2nd to Adele's 21. Shit comparison really. And you have to realise those Hagar albums had the brand name Van Halen behind them and a weakened playing field in regards to other competing artists in the nadir of the late 80's/early 90's. Even Without You was the most requested song of all time on rock radio, it was all hype, all of the continued success benefitted from the House that Roth (era) built.
A.F.U. is my favourite VH song of all time 😂
Here is the definitive list of songs that represent the worst of Hagar’s lyrics: Good Enough, Summer Nights, Source of Infection, Black and Blue, Sucker in a 3 Piece, Spanked, In n’ Out…. I could keep going, but I would be listing almost 40 songs across 4 albums that have aged so badly. Not only was DLR the fun in Van Halen, but he was the brains as well.
What about Up For Breakfast ? The worst of them all.
I like the Hagar era, especially Balance… but none of it beats any DLR era record, even A Different Kind of Truth.
Roth is VH !!!
The best hagar ever did was the Montrose debut album love that album but he was nowhere that level again.
I'm not a Van Hagar hater but VH2 is gonna crush OU812, I'm sure lol
Mine All Mine
Dance The Night Away
Somebody Get Me A Doctor
Bottoms Up
Outta Love Again
Light Up the Sky
Spanish Fly
DOA
Women In Love
Beautiful Girls
VH2 wins 9-1
Finish what you started n black n blue are two favorites mainly cause of EVH
Holy shit, I forgot how bad those lyrics were 😂 Sucker in a 4 piece band for sure! 😝
to me Light up the Sky and Feels so good are two different songs .. if im hanging out with guys I'll put on Light up the Sky but if im getting down with some chick I'll put on Feels so Good .. i actually like both songs .. it just depends on the situation ..
I saw the title, I just started to laugh, no comparison. An epic classic versus poppy fluff. It's funny because so many Hagardzombies defend it like there is no tomorrow. Poor suckers. 0U812, people say its clever, but it was taken from Cheech and Chong. If only they would have kept "Down In Flames" instead of using that music for "You're No Good", it would have been that much better. I always thought "Mine All Mine" was the heaviest track on the album, which is saying something. When It's Love, truly a Mastersh!t in ballessness. F#cK I hate that song and I love EVH. Cabo Wabo, Hagar wouldn't have the fortune if it weren't for it being on this album. Even the VH brothers didn't want to be associated with that song that only benefitted Spammy, forcing him to get his tattoo during 2004 so he could still promote his cabo brand. F' him. I can't talk anymore. You hit the nail on head again, truly a depressing time to be a VH fan.
Personally, I like Van Halen and I like Van Hagar. But I think it's kinda strange whenever I hear anyone prefers Van Hagar. I like all Van Halen and Van Hagar, But Diamond Dave is unbeatable. He's irreplaceable. OU812 is a great 8/10 album for me. But Van Halen II isn't anything like OU812. Van Halen II is a masterpiece of hard rock that influenced everyone and OU812 is just kinda Van Hagar. It's just kinda there.
Could you please have that missing piece of baseboard installed for the next video? My OCD was screaming up my lunch pail.
Where Have All the Good Times Gone was based off Bowie's version.
I'd put my track by track, but it'd just be the track listing of Van Halen II, a perfect album along with the debut, Women and Children First, and Fair Warning. I actually quite like the Sammy stuff, but OU812 is the worst album they did with him
Worst title too.
Lmao! I already know the results before i watch..
Agreed Ralph 😊
I thought some of the music on OU812 would have sounded great if Dave sang on it and it had that classic brown sound with Templeman producing. Like you said, if you stripped away the keyboards on Mine all Mine and it was beefed up, it would have been a much better song. AFU and Source of Infection musically is pretty rockin and with better production I could hear Dave injecting his stamp on them. OU812 just sounds weak and dated.
Mine all mine and AFU were ideas around in the DLR days.
Until 2015 I loved the VH Sammy era, but nowadays I have a better vision of the whole thing, and I really do think that 90% of It sucks hard
Shit Doc, I can't even remember last week.
Funny man 😂😂😂 8:29
Van Gina was not only Hagar's fault... what about Cherone?? another train wreck...
Love original Van Halen! Ramen noodle head is ok but not half as good.