Al Snow on The Elite Trolling CM Punk during AEW Dynamite Match
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Al Snow talks with Vince Russo and Jeff Lane about Kenny Omega and The Young Bucks using their AEW Dynamite match from Chicago against Death Triangle to troll CM Punk with Kenny Omega biting PAC in the same manner that Ace Steel reportedly bit Omega following Punk's comments at the AEW All Out Media Scrum, Matt Jackson fake botching a spot in the same manner Punk did against Hangman Page, and Omega using Punk's finishing move the GTS. Clip from Lions, Tigers, Bears & Head (Dec. 2, 2022) on Vince Russo's The Brand at ChannelAttitude...
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RUclips advertising this to an avid cornette listener is playing a real curious game
Apparently it's working since we both ended up here
@@SamsarasArt That makes three of us. lol
Four
Al snow makes a lot of sense
Same. It seems like the algorithm knows that even the most bitter enemies can come together and enjoy bashing The Elite and Tony.
The bad part is, this might mean we’re one step closer to Armageddon.
I’m here as well,but only for research purposes. Haha
This is why Punk said he's tired of working with children
Despite being an utter manchild himself.
And their fans loved it shows how illiterate the fan base is.
CM Punk *is* a child
it just occurred to me listening to this and i wonder if anyone else catches this too: by going and conducting themselves like this,the evps have pretty much justified everything punk said at the media scrum
Thank you for saying this. He’s been right and the EVP’s are proving him right.
Yeah, they’re basically saying “Punk was right and we won anyway”
Not justified, Punk is a prick to deal or be around, BUT it does show why he was being that way..💯
Not really. They're playing heels in a city that booed them. They also lost the match so no, they're not doing anything wrong. It's a work. What Punk did was not. I'll die on this hill. Alone if I have to.
@@Neethan3247 no,there is a difference between heeling it up due to where they were and,for lack of a better term"@$$ing off"!
I mean,ffs they literally explain IN THIS VERY VID what is the problem,not just with what they did but one of the bigger problems with aew as a whole:
These guys have literally become super-marks for themselves and they,TK,the aew fans,and a seeming majority of the talent have thier own heads so far up you know where,
they can't see that rome(aew)
is burning,,,
Plenty of CM Punk fans out there like myself who has been completely turned off by the immature antics of Hangman Page and the Elite. The only reason I even glance at anything related to AEW is for Bryan Danielson, Sting and MJF. I can’t wait for CM Punk to return to WWE.
If 'Immature actions' turn you off how the hell are you a CM Punk fan?
"There are no casual wrestling fans anymore" -CM Punk.
Yeah ,no territories, wrestling trying to make a comeback, but entertaining sports can't come close to 80$ and 90$ @$$kikrs. Punk mediocre at best.
If Punk is mediocre, what does that make the entire AEW roster?
@@similaritiesendhere half the AEW locker room is in WWE now. What does that make WWE? LOL
@@ryandavis4448 A better place to work? Lol
CM Punk was brought up in wrestling by a guy like Harley Race, now i don't know about the EVPs and Mr. "I Don't take advice" but they appear to have trained and learned from nobody of releveance.
Race loved CM Punk like a son, he was one of his early supporters for him to breakout onto the WWE scene. Cornette once told a true story about Race and Omega in the early days in WWE developmental, and could very much confirm that Omega was complete idiot that he refused to do follow his instructions and put him in the beginners class instead of the experienced class, Omega hated him since, and from then on, whenever Omega wrestled he would sometimes mock Race similar to how he and Bucks are mocking Punk. If Harley Race, who most of the wrestling industry respects, thinks your a complete idiot, you can bet you are.
Colt Cabana lol
Harley didn't like Kenny and was not very complimentary of him when he was at Harleys school. Harley knew right away Kenny was a joke.
Self-taught in their backyard. Seriously.
Punk is a whiny poser and the bucks look like gold for finally standing up to that dork.
Imagine Hangman and The Evps in the attitude era locker room. Would love to see them pull that off with Benoit, Hardcore Holly, Undertaker, APA around.
They wouldn't even be able to handle Stone Cold - on his own.
They wouldn't have been in the company probably.
They would of never made the cut with the amount of talent back then and the Kliq got away with far worse things.
Lmfao stop thinking they were tough guys cause they actually weren’t. Imagine that locker room without steroids the alcohol or any of the other big problems wrestlers had behind the scenes
@@harrycahill2140 lmfao bro the talent was not that good back in the day? It’s so weird how y’all don’t remember how sloppy as fuck the wrestling was. Stop being hypocrites
This is a prime example of your age don’t make you an adult but how you act and treat others is cause theses grown ass men are children
I mean thats what CM Punk was saying. He was tired of working with this kids who don't understand how the business runs.
The young bucks' book is just as bad
@@zombiewarrior88 Young Cucks
@@zombiewarrior88And it's called "Killing the Business" too!!!! How appropriate!!!
I’ll never forget in ECW everybody in the crowd with the mannequin head. Al snow was major over in ECW and wwf with that gimmick. I freaking loved it as a kid.
ECW was unique; great characters, great storytelling. Too bad they were niche and didn't have a better platform.
@@vanityvisionary7410 They had to be niche to survive. Anyone with mainstream appeal was signed by WCW and later WWF. Heyman had to put the title on Justin Credible eventually because he knew neither company wanted him.
He got the mannequin over, but he couldve been good even without it. Al snow is pretty articulate in the ring, that's why he got over by himself. For Other people it wouldve been a death sentence
Another thing was Heyman was reckless with the company's profits. Wrestlers like Tommy Dreamer and Bubba Ray who at times helped in the office said in shoot interviews ECW didn't have to go out of business. Paul was great at creative but horrible with money handling.
What does everybody want........?what does everybody need!
This whole return run has been a victory lap for the Elite at the expense of the entire company.
They killed their careers and AEW at the same time……. I feel sorry for Mox who held it down from day 1.
@@jmelz155 Moxley SUCKS TOO. Has the personality of a bitter plummer. Same shit over and over and over and when he goes hardcore he HALF ASSES IT. He don't go all the way like Foley or Terry Funk.
perfectly stated.
The elite are poison and now they are gonna win the trios titles which they don't deserve
But the company sucks, so it's good that they're making fun of it. This is like DX in 1997 when they would just make fun of how lame the product is.
Al Snow always talks sense
@@captaincharisma7784these are the guys that should be used as mentors and agents. AEW is literally hosting the boys club.
@@shootwithjets unfortunately AEW do have Vets in those roles, what makes it unfortunate is that they don't want any advice from said vets
@@williamwolfxrivera9929 those vets are part of the boys club now.
@@williamwolfxrivera9929 u mean big show and mark henry dean malenko and mike chioda
@@fadhilraihan7966 Yes along with Jim Ross, Sting or Even Arn Anderson and Dustin Rhodes
They pretty much confirm every week what cm punk said
Tony khan is a mark, he is the Dixie carter of aew. He chose not to address the rumours about punk being the reason colt was moved to a different show, and now things have gotten out of hand.
Dixie Khan
At least he knows more than Dixie ever will about wrestling but yes….all of this sucks lol
@@b-rye223 They both have in common is losing there billionaire dads money All the money and all they get 350 000 viewers on national TV on Friday. 3 time booker of the year
They wonder why Regal got out the soonest he could. It's so immature to burn this bridge with the biggest star in your companies history.
AEW is such a huge mess.
I don't even watch that garbage. The small amount of Sports-entertainment I do watch consists primarily of WWE, and I never make it past the first half hour.
Problem is at the top and trickles down. I don’t feel sorry for TK when he could easily put competent people in charge, but this is his vanity project and he’s causing his own problems
@@vanityvisionary7410 I only watch clips of WWE on youtube if I hear a segment was particularly good, like Sami and the Bloodline. I don't watch AEW at all.
How? Explain?
@@geneanthony3421 completely right on that. All of this shit falls on the fact, Tony doesn't want to step up and act like a boss. He lets this shit run amuck and doesn't put responsible people in charge of the company.
Russo shaking his head while mention of the Elite trolling should be telling enough of how problematic it was.
Tony is non confrontational. He would never confront his children EVPs.
My biggest thing: they’re in positions of power. Even if they’re in the right based upon the opinions of most backstage, what if they DON’T like that person at a later date? They’re in power AND on the show……and this is how they act?
My biggest thing is shitting on the finish of the guy who (regardless of potential buy-outs) is your top babyface by using it for a false finish. I’d be shocked to see more guys on Punk’s level sign with them after a stunt like that.
Yeah, this isn't how company execs should act, even if they are also part of the talent. Highly unprofessional, and whatever beef they have with CM Punk should be handled off-screen. It's childish as hell, and I would never want to work with any of them, even if my job were backstage or in the office.
I guarantee the response in the locker room was
Tony Kahn: nervous laughter. Maybe a sarcastic shaking of the head in “disapproval”
90% of the locker room: laughter and high fives
Doubt it! Only laughed because they know The Elite would probably cry and bury them. We see what happens when someone tells them what they truly are.
Nah bro there are a ton of guys tired of All Friends Wrestling backstage.
@@VigilanteWilliamson That I have zero doubts about.
I think Tony is like the substitute teacher with no real experience sitting in with a rowdy class of jr. high kids.
Not a Russo fan by any stretch, but I'll show up anywhere to lend an ear whenever Al Snow holds court.
Same, only reason I'm here
mocking someone like that is childish by the evp. like punk said, bunch of childrens
I said way back “when people look at this situation a year from now, they will understand why punk had to do what he did at that scrum.”
I think more people are starting to catch on .
Yes, if you don't call out surtin behavior things will never change and things will only get worse you are correct
I still see way to many Elite marks out there trying to justify their spin on it....
I genuinely believe that Tony Khan has no interest in growing AEW's audience. From top to bottom, AEW is built to appeal to the hardcore fans that watch New Japan and vote in The Wrestling Observer awards. Khan is, imo, living the fantasy that he envisioned when AEW was just a thought in his head. Why punish The Bucks or Omega? They're icons to the audience that TK caters to. If anything he'll reward them.
@@Kalbuir66 Growing AEW beyond the super hardcore fans isn't his goal because he's one of them. CM Punk handled things in a bad way but he spoke a lot of truth about the situation there.
@@jaysgamingcorner8539 I like that. “Punk handled things the wrong way, but he wasn’t wrong.”
@@zlinedavid Yup
@@zlinedavid he's not wrong. Punk may have gone about it wrong but I believe him 100 percent. Kenny and his buddies haven't drawn money on the biggest stage for wrestling in the world, Punk has. The only way these guys could get over was by poking fun at the Business but that doesn't help anybody draw more money or grow their audience. What's the point of telling inside jokes that most ppl who don't spend their life on wrestling forums aren't gonna get? It's just jerking your girkin on national TV.
How is Al Snow not hands down the #1 casting choice to be the voice of Ben Grimm in the new Fantastic Four movie?!?!?
Here’s my only criticism AEW doesn’t have a casual audience, so they’re just playing to their audience which is mostly the “smart marks”. Which is another reason they’re struggling to grow an audience
Yea there is 0 casual fan watching AEW. Not even all the hardcores watch it. All the hardcores and casuals watch WWE. A lot of the hardcores and no casuals watch AEW. Then some hardcores watch all the other stuff at their leisure
Smarks have a tendency to overvalue themselves. 'If they just did it they way we think they should it'll be great and they'll make millions'
No, wrestling by and for smarks has never sold. Hulk Hogan was the most anti smark wrestler ever and he made millions for the WWF, all the while never once getting a 5 star match out of Meltzer. Hell smarks were getting tired of the Rock and Stone Cold during the Attitude Era. So if AEW wants to be for smarks, that's fine for them, just don't expect to make any money.
Lol Al snow is like one of 5 people whose been perpetually normal and logical in a legit context
Those guys are pushing 40. You do that in junior high school. It’s embarrassing. . No wonder Punk would want a buyout.Hes to mature for all that childish nonsense.
He literally called them children in that media scrum. They're really showing him huh?
They should be embarrassed how old they are doing that. That one that is more childish is balding and tries to hide it
@@davidcgrabowski seriously that’s the word “embarrassing” are their feelings that hurt? No wonder their ratings are dropping so fast. Super immature behavior. Punk is probably laughing R home saying” I’ll post my buyout check when I get it” lolz
@@richspeck8932 yeah for sure. He was right. He’s better off without any of them. To much drama
@@richardremick1639 I'm not even a fan of CM Punk and I can see he's right in that situation. Any objective person would be
That final quarter hour last week was the lowest rated quarter hour of the night. It was the main event! The EVP's are making people change the channel
Can you imagine any of this happening if someone like Taker was in that locker room?
Omega and the Bucks don’t know how many ppl they actually turned off with being funny..the elite is getting go AWAY heat..let tony hire ppl that takes wrestling seriously. GO AWAY HEAT coming in strong on twinkle toes and Buckaroos
Al's perspective is dead on. The idea is to GROW your audience.
I feel for the casual viewer that flipped to this channel and went "Ohhh wrestling, wonder what's going on?" And then that viewer sees the Elite acting like jackasses and they're like "Mmmkay imma head out"
WWE raw is down to a Million Viewers. Wrestling is dead it’s only popular to hard core fans.
@@reeseangle9621 its not "down to a million". And why you think this is relevant AT ALL is beyond me
Al is arguably one of the best trainers and teachers in the business. Seeing his character in the attitude era or one of the new rockers you'd think no way he's the same guy.
@@justinczech1489 It's relevant but it's certainly not in it's glory days. I love that there's more circuits and shows, I just hate that most of them are not successful. They could be. Hell AEW could be successful if they understood that like almost everything else, it's a business. You cannot just start a promotion and only make your friends in a place of power and wrestle. Politics is one thing, Dictatorship is a completely different wheelhouse.
Reese is right about the overall popularity but wwe has about a 2-3 i
million viewers.
If you want to know if wrestling is still popular ask people In your daily life if they watch wrestling and see if most of them dont just say no but wonder why you still watch it.
They effectively proved Punk right in everything he said.
Al isn't wrong on anything. I've stopped watching aew...it's just not entertaining. I can find good spots on independent content creators before aew gets them flagged for the moments I want to see. GLCW!
For months I was hoping they’d finally come to AZ for the first time. They released they are coming after the brawl out. I have no interest in spending my money if they don’t even respect and take their business seriously🤷🏿♂️
I watch wow on tv and herd , glw on here and it's entertaining, they're all Indy companies and they get it's not about the spots to get to a spot or all these stupid false finishes and 50/50 bookings where the talent are marks for themselves so they believe BOTH guys need to get their shit in to get over which buries them the promotion and the business and they're too full of themselves to see that
Omg Vince and Taker and JBL and Kane and Hunter would have kicked the living diarrhea out of the Bucks and Omega lmao
Spike dudley would have kicked the crap out of those 3 idiots
Imagine what Harley Race, Bruiser Brody and Jos LeDuc would do with them.
Or Haku
@@williamwolfxrivera9929 oh Haku would have left them a pile of broken bones.
That would be the only time I’d actually watch the Elite!
Punk was right
Punk calls out The Bucks and Omega for being immature and Page for stating he doesn’t take advice; Regal leaves the company at the earliest opportunity, apparently siting an “immaturity within management”; String rumours that Billy Gunn is frustrated by the fact that certain people on the AEW roster refuse to listen to veterans
The more that comes out about AEW, the more it’s apparent that Omega and co don’t have a clue what they’re doing and, in all likelihood, the company will either cease to exist or, more likely, stagnate as a niche programme and never fulfil the potential it initially had. Such a shame, but those involved only have themselves to blame
I'm done with aew I was excited for a second major brand to watch and for wrestlers to make money but aew has become a joke punk being let go and the 3 evps staying is complete bullshit
I am sticking around, but just barely. I skip the Elite “children acting out” matches though, among some others.
I agree with Vince and Al. To think even in WCWs worst state, it never was this bad
WCW was taken off the air by the CEO of time Warner and even at it's socalled "worse" 1998-2001 WCW ratings were 3-4 million viewers Aew barely can get 700,000 and the Aew smarks think that's "better" than when Vince Russo "ran WCW"
Wrestling isn't mainstream anymore but true, still a ways to catchup WCW
"No real men" someone give this guy a raise!!!!
Imagine being in "management" and you are playing to an audience of one. This company is on the downhill quick
So WWE.
@@vonVile during Vince yes and we all gave WWE hell for it for what like 11+ years so now it's AEW time to see if they can endure as long as WWE did
@@GreyLeo It's still for an audience of one because HHH hasn't changed the format of the WWE. All he's done is re-sign all the NXT talent he lost. It still has the old man stink of Vince all over it.
When the new season of Raw started everything should have been updated from intro to Titantron to start the next era. Instead of Raw looking like an awards show by being over produced go back and make it a bit gritter. Stop having 10+ minute filler promos and have them get to the point in under 5. It's easy to book 3 hours a week it's called matches. Not every feud needs to lead into a PPV. They can be resolved on the show to build up future talent.
It is why AEW will never grow. The EVPS rather act like immature goofs then conduct themselves like businessmen. All the while they drive away viewers.
@@vonVile first all off, why is this about WWE? Secondly, give it till mania to see what triple H does, and third, no promotion is going to be perfect but aew is a trainwreck doing bush league crap like EVPs making jokes instead of making money. And WWE makes more money than every promotion in the world combined and it isn't even close. So worry about aew.
Simple & effective. Al Snow understands the business more effectively than the "internet wrestling community" gives him credit for. He achieved the (who what where how) mysticism within 30 seconds BEFORE the bell rang. Not only did it translate to the action cameras but he played to the ppl in the cheap seats behind a pillar.
So where is Al snow and Russo wrestling company?
@@reeseangle9621 😂😂😂😂😂
Must be hard for you to comprehend certain things.
@@reeseangle9621 Al snow Always got work, as a wrestler, then as a booker and a trainer. That's how you know he has had success. Was he main event Guy? No. But he does not have to in order to have a range of success within your reach
@@reeseangle9621 YOU: WARE R DAY?
Al owns OVW.
Punk is the reason I started watching wrestling again
I'll book an angle. A hostile invasion of AEW from OVW. Coach Snow hits the young bucks with a loaded head.
"Loaded head" 😄
Shad Kahn needs to step in and hire a heater to keep people in check backstage
Only thing I disagree with Al on is that AEW doesn't have a casual audience, its all people that follow the back stage stuff, what we are allowed to know, so I'm sure everyone there knew what they were doing whether they agreed with it or not.
I think they do, to an extent - brian Solomon (who recently guest cohosted on cornettes experience) went to an AEW show like 3 weeks agk and said there were people sitting around him genuinely asking if cm punk was going to be there.
I definitely agree they are hurting the entire roster of Aew but also showing the level of professionalism which they do not have
It's weird that they're making fun of a guy that beat them up....
You expect them to understand psychology and telling a story that makes sense? 😆
around the 5:45 mark is very telling. people in aew arent scared of tony khan because they know he just wants to be their friend as opposed to their boss, whereas in wwe if you fucked up, it didnt matter who you were vince mcmahon was going to give you an ass chewing because hes all business. obviously with vince gone that probably doesnt happen often but thats a big thing to think about with AEW. whos gonna be the person to put people in their place when it needs to happen
They also must not respect Tony. Triple H may not be as ornery as Vince, but it seems the younger wrestlers really love and respect him.
@@namelessjedi2242 yea i think they know they can just walk all over tony and lets face it the only reason hes in the business is because of money so i think he loses respect for that. people dont fear triple h but they respect him. youre spot on
Russo n cornette agree a lot
@@Kalbuir66 And nothing epitomizes “true garbage” better than modern wrestling.
All it did was prove a lot of the old talk of their pettiness. There was a shoot (i forget who exactly) that talked about The Bucks time in TNA. How they didn't listen, and acted like a couple of know-it-alls. So, I don't know exactly, right? But it sure seems that the Bucks and Kenny Omega are two-faced and delusional. Even more so since they were given the reigns to be in a position of power.
That was Scott Steiner cutting a classic promo being in the Main Event Mafia.
Both Bucks in the Steiner Recliner at the same time!!! Epic!!!
Men stop being Men when we stop solving problems with our fist.
Dixie Khan will be mad
You can never just watch one al snow video, you end up binje watching stuff with him! He needs his own podcast
This is from his podcast
Al Snows voice is almost unrecognizable now from when he did Kayfabe Commentaries
I thought that it never was so gruff was it ?
I've noticed that slot of older wrestlers get a voice like this when they get older ,is it use of steroids when they were younger do you think ,just seems odd 🤔
Young Bucks are punks
I’m not a Punk fan but even I think it’s stupid that the Bucks would call attention to this. The two of them got beat up by a man in his mid 40s with a bum shoulder. I wouldn’t want to brag about that if I were them.
I think guys like the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega could become the greatest in the world by a country mile, and the WWE still wouldn't touch them as they would have no interest in the hassle and baggage that they bring with themselves.
Flawed premise.
You could switch CM Punk with their names it seems like people are mad they are doing CM Punk would do.
They don’t have the mindset, respect, or dedication to become the best.
Don't think that WWE don't notice what they are doing.... Disclaimer: I am not a fan of AEW or WWE but WWE is the biggest stage....
Al Snow always telling it like it is. That's why I always liked and respected him.
The Elite are some real douchebags and I really hope that they get theirs someday. I dont usually wish that on people especially wrestlers but they are more than deserving of that.
Hell has frozen over Russo & Snow agree with Corny on something.
Al Snow for the win.
Al is right this shit was goofy overall and made wrestling look even more fake
AAAAAAND Jim Cornette has said this from the very first day that AEW first started running...
Al looks incredible. Younger than he did during the height of attitude era. His insight into pro wrestling and the little things is some of the best of heard and listened too. These elite clowns are just proving Punk right week after week where he’s working with kids..
When Russo, Cornette, Disco, Konnan, Bischoff, Booker T, Al Snow, and lord knows who else I'm forgetting, are all saying the same things, maybe you're doing something wrong. But these AEW fools just insist on losing viewership at alarming rates anytime MJF isn't on the screen.
Al’s right, who’s really benefiting from it ? Kenny literally said to move on, but he’s contradicting himself & none of them are moving on. They’re all being childish
The Bucks and Omega could only take so much. I am proud they fought back and humiliated Punk before working to get his toxic ass fired.
Cody Rhodes leaving probably was the best business move now that you look at it...also I see AEW slowly becoming a new WCW..great wrestling matches but poorly ran in the later years
Nah, AEW had a meteoric rise but still nowhere WCW's peak
@@linewalker wcw's peak was great but later years it fell apart and until Khan get AEW right it will be the same! Hopefully not because I love wrestling wars
Slowly becoming? The product has only been unraveling for about five months now. Coincidentally around the time that Vince got ousted.
Tony immediately started to panic once his McMahon Boogeyman was gone and all this nonsense started to happen.
This show went from good to unwatchable in almost record time.
@@jwilliams4305 Me too bro
7:03 Al burying Russo directly to his face, haha
100% correct I'm so glad that Al put it that way. At 53 I have watched my whole life. The point is The average fan just wants to be admirsed And yes worked . Even though we know it's what it is.
It doesn't matter anymore. It's too late to save AEW. It's dying. No Milly for weeks and viewership is falling pretty much week to week. They needed to be flawless after this PPV and it's not happening, even if there are some things getting better---that's not enough anymore. The good will is gone. Bloom really is off the rose.
One of the biggest things resulting from this is that it confirms all the criticisms of TK not having control and not being respected. How he handles this how he did, refusing to even address it, but allows this to happen on TV is just a horrible look for him as a boss. Mix in that earlier the same day Omega publicly told people to move past it and then did this. Just looks Busch leavue all the way.
They've been going out of their way to prove Punk right it seems.
When Corny and Russo agree you know you done fucked up...
Omega and young bucks reminds me of a younger Kliq
I watched two aew shows in my life, the first show and the second show, chris jericho called sami guevera sexy and i switched the channel and never turned back 😭
That is Kenta's finisher that they're shitting on. Punk got it from him.
As well Kenta specifically said he didn't want Punk using it.
Wait is Vince Russo some grand guardian of Kayfabe now? This seems like something Vince would have written for WCW. Anyone remember Russo vs. Hogan?
@Oj Simp Russo would be so much more interesting as a host if he talked about his actual mindset instead of pretending he’s some old-school guy.
@@krolik1157 I guess Russo didn't "suck" when he wrote for the WWF during the attitude era oh wait he "just wrote a few things" or will you say "Vince McMahon is out of touch" pre attitude era and post attitude era ?
What other false narratives are you gonna pull outta your ass that was fed to you by Melzter?
@@Chuck_EL I have no idea exactly what you’re saying, what I’m saying is it’s weird seeing Russo head-nod at someone angry for wrestlers “blurring the lines” when it’s well-known Russo LOVED blurring the lines and messing with the 4th wall.
This goes to show how Vince McMahon presence meant something as far as leadership and discipline. Love AEW but Book is right they can go down in a couple years WWE is still crushing them
They don’t understand that they’re alienating people who came to aew because they were fans of Punk?
How can anyone still be angry with CM Punk at this point? Everything he said was correct, these guys are petty, immature, unprofessional d bags. It's pathetic
And how could Tony handle this? No Comment!
Aew doesn’t have casual fans. Just look at the ratings.
Let's not forget that the day before/day of that show the elite were saying to let the issue go and that it was over...then they come out and do that crap. I was a fan of omega and the bucks when AEW started, but as time has went by it seems what is being said about them is completely true and it's sad
Me too....They should have positions of power even though all EVP means is you're TK's buddy....
Remember this will all be the end of AEW
Shawn Michaels trolled Montreal about Bret Hart years later with no angle in mind. Trolling the Chicago crowd on their first night back after the incident in a way that people out of the loop wouldn’t even notice isn’t nearly as bad. The crowd ate it all up so it was, in fact, fine.
lol Shawn Michaels trolling Montreal is the angle.
What these guys did was just petty and lame. I'm not even a Punk fan or think he's an innocent bystander in all this.
@@theecharmingbilly right and Hbk was a heel feuding with the Babyface Hogan so I don't know where Cameron is getting it "no angle"
Again then Op just focusing on the promo and not the angle which is who Aew focuses on and why they're failing at getting casual fans
I agree with Snow 100 percent with this. It made pro wrestling look like a clown show.
It's professional wrestling. It is a clown show. I say that as someone who loves to watch wrestling, but recognizes it for what it is.
Liberals have been ruining everything for 2 years. Yall make excuses left and right and then you are shocked 😱
The Bucks book is called "killing the business"
Al Snow is absolutely correct
@@maxwelljacobfreedom LMFAO tell us your a stupid American with out telling us your a stupid American ...
This will never fly in Vince’s WWE. Say what you want about him, but he was a true boss. Tony Khan is just a man with a lot of money, but became besties with his employees
I mean, WWE did inside jokes, too. Mae Young giving birth to a hand was just a giant rib that maybe 8 people actually got.
I want to see the marks and tools in the AEW locker room try this crap in a old school WWE or ECW locker room, or even a WCW locker room lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤬🤬, see how far you get.....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😎
The EVP’s killed that company’s momentum . Cm punk was just one of the few people who doesn’t have to put up with their circus without speaking out . He saw that Tony has no control over them , so he had to do it himself . People change the channel by the hundreds of thousands, whenever they are on the screen . Like I said , It’s the niche , hardcore Indy/new Japan marks who are mad at cm punk . People like Meltzer who help the EVP’s spread their narrative because dave has a crush on Kenny omega . Dave killed the company just as much as anyone. Also, Tony placating the EVP’s and their passive aggressive backstage politics, is only hurting the company . They are putting their personal preferences over business. They got jealous when Tony started acquiring new stars , who were getting more over than them . Not to mention some of the homegrown talent that naturally got over . You hardly see them since Kenny’s return . Whatever happened to wardlow ? Or Hook? They squandered all of their momentum. It’s way bigger than cm punk . Punk just shined a light on it. Then knocked two of them out when they all came barging into his locker room.
I think this is the first time Vince Russo and Jim Cornette feel the same way about something. You KNOW you're fucking up if both of them are calling you out on your bullshit.
Absolutely dead on when Al Snow “it takes you out of that world”. That’s what they don’t get.
lmao Al Snow is so quick
The Bucks have been clowns forever. Look at their presentation
Great discussion. Bring AL back more often its really good to listen to his prospective.
This is from his weekly show
Who's weekly show AL or Vince?
If TK went on Dynamite as said the Trios tittle and world tittle have been stripped form Elite & Punk, you bet your ass that AEW watchers are going online to find out why .... its not really an inside joke when its the worst kept secret of the locker room .... MJF missed a meet and greet and had a plane ticket home, turned up on a live show and made a plane sign with his arms, the crowd popped, don't treat us like idiots we know whats going on. This "niche" audience is the mass majority of AEW fans
I love Snow busting Russo’s balls about Yellowstone
Bring AL snow back as a regular he's very in depth with his wrestling knowledge I love it.
I’ll be honest… I heard all about the scrum, but I woulda never even put all that together, about the inside jokes the Bucks were doing. You know why? Cuz I don’t watch any of their matches. Every time they pop up on TV, it’s an instant fast-forward. 🤷🏾♂️