I have been shooting for over 20-years, and the only thing I can say I wish all this information was around when I first started, keep it up and keep it coming
I have recently taken up shooting and am glad to see the comp x as one of your recommendations. Nice cartridges to shoot and I think I will definitely stay with Hull in the future
After starting out I shot Superfast for a year, but a few of us at the club had several bad batches - if they fired, it was like we were shooting confetti. I had a ShotKam on and one of them had just enough recoil to trigger the camera, so I could show the supplier (they swapped out the rest of the slab, and gave me a couple of free boxes). The rest of them that didn't fire properly, there wasn't enough energy in the cartridge to trigger the camera. Different slabs from different shops/grounds bought over a few months. If it was just the odd one or two rounds, I could accept it - but this was happening regularly. We lost confidence in Hull and none of us have shot them since. We moved onto Gamebore and Eley.
As an industry we are looking to move away from single use plastics. Cartridge cases are easily recycled as is ths cardboard packaging so much better for the environment it far outweighs the small financial cost
Yes they do but it would actually increase production costs as they would need to buy all new packaging equipment. Plus the degradation of the plastics take years. Cardboard is done in weeks
Ii have shot clays for around 50 years now and enjoyed it immensely, i'm in my 70s now, and i would love to shoot clays with my little Browning 525 --- 28 bore, but the shells are so expensive . Can you not get them down to roughly around 12 bore clay shells price, and if not , why not ??
The answer is the cost saving on mass production; the more you make of any given product, the cheaper the unit production cost, and hence the unit selling price - and the numbers of 12 bore cartridges sold massively outnumber even 20 bore, let alone 28 bore. When the Austin Mini was launched in 1959, they sold for £400 - but *only* because they were being made and sold by the hundred thousand. I remember reading at the time that development and set up costs were so high that if only one of them had been sold, Austin's would have to have charged the buyer about £4 *million* to break even!
I use Fiocchi sporting black 8's 28g. Great all rounder for everything: sporting, skeet, DTL. AND a lot cheaper than Hull. I used to use Hull Pro One 24g until they got ridiculously priced.
I'd love to, but for that I would need to get the kit to test. None of the manufacturers are interested in someone doing a comparative review, so I would have to buy them, I cant afford that.
Hi there since watching part one of your series I’ve had 10 shooting lessons and have applied for my license! Looking at getting a browning 525! Thank you so much for these they are really helpful
@@TS4M931 Yeah just be prepared to wait a long time as its affected the whole country of course. The Met still say on their website up to 6 months wait but that's nonsense and from speaking with a shooting club owner this morning he knows people who have been waiting 14 months and heard nothing so I'm lucky lol.
Im very happy with the performance of superfast but find them incredibly dirty, my gun is full of confetti after 100 shots! Are the higher end Hull cartridges any cleaner?
What is your take on steel cartridges? Coming from Sweden I never used lead so can't tell the diffrence, but from what I've heard people used to shooting lead never wanna go steel 😉
I use steel for skeet, Gamebore #9 super steels through a cylinder choke with a 94 average, put 3 99's in lately with them, they are perfectly good enough for any shooting up to about 50 yards before losing a bit of energy and pattern falling away, but the people whom don't like them have never shot it most of the time. You get 20% more shot due to weight & density of steel so for Skeet they absolutely dust the clays with even the most open of chokes.
My biggest advice for beginners is apply for your license straightaway , some schools do a caddy system so you can shoot without the license and use the most cartridges on the clays you miss , it feels good hitting easy targets but you learn nothing
I applied for my licence over 1 years ago and only a few days ago finally got an email from the Police to arrange an interview. COVID has massively slowed the process right down.
hi Lloyd i my self use hull but i use comp x for my sim days where i use 400 plus in a day in 21 gram and all my other shooting superfast 27 gram ive got most my freinds on superfast now great cart cheers
I really rate Superfast shells, they are as you point out very consistent and punch above their weight, but cartridges from "other manufactures are available" and comparable. Don't stick to one brand, there's a whole lot more brands out there, give them a go.
I ues hull supper fast 27, 7.5 fiber, I'm new shooter I'm on to my second thousand now. Does bywell have Solo shooting system, ie the delay so you can shoot alone. I'm only down the road in Co Durham
Difficult video to watch. Sound quality very poor over the shotguns in the background. Don't think it's my device as it's the same on my laptop. Just thought I'd let you know, for next time 😉 Regardless, love your content 😁
not a fan of super fast there too kicky the comp x is my go to for volume of shooting 24g is a good half way in a decent cartridge even the little 21g comp x is capable for practice i think hull have got to have the best range of cartridges out there for clays
i think that’s the worst video you have done as it’s just an advert for Hull cartridge who is your sponsor . Disappointing to watch and hear over the repeated gunshots.
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I didn't know this was going to be a Hull advert when I clicked on it.
I have been shooting for over 20-years, and the only thing I can say I wish all this information was around when I first started, keep it up and keep it coming
I met Chris on Saturday and had pretty much the same conversion with him. Got some great advice. Top bloke.
The cost is going up all the time cartridges clays a lot of people are giving up because of the cost of clay shooting
I have recently taken up shooting and am glad to see the comp x as one of your recommendations. Nice cartridges to shoot and I think I will definitely stay with Hull in the future
Thanks Chris
Moved across to Hull Superfast - no looking back - love the consistency
After starting out I shot Superfast for a year, but a few of us at the club had several bad batches - if they fired, it was like we were shooting confetti. I had a ShotKam on and one of them had just enough recoil to trigger the camera, so I could show the supplier (they swapped out the rest of the slab, and gave me a couple of free boxes). The rest of them that didn't fire properly, there wasn't enough energy in the cartridge to trigger the camera. Different slabs from different shops/grounds bought over a few months.
If it was just the odd one or two rounds, I could accept it - but this was happening regularly. We lost confidence in Hull and none of us have shot them since. We moved onto Gamebore and Eley.
question for Hull, to reduce the cost, why not sell cartridges in bulk 250 plastics bags, no cardboard box??.
As an industry we are looking to move away from single use plastics. Cartridge cases are easily recycled as is ths cardboard packaging so much better for the environment it far outweighs the small financial cost
@@chrishorner8589 there is bio degradable plastics, now
Yes they do but it would actually increase production costs as they would need to buy all new packaging equipment. Plus the degradation of the plastics take years. Cardboard is done in weeks
Ii have shot clays for around 50 years now and enjoyed it immensely, i'm in my 70s now, and i would love to shoot clays with my little Browning 525 --- 28 bore, but the shells are so expensive . Can you not get them down to roughly around 12 bore clay shells price, and if not , why not ??
The answer is the cost saving on mass production; the more you make of any given product, the cheaper the unit production cost, and hence the unit selling price - and the numbers of 12 bore cartridges sold massively outnumber even 20 bore, let alone 28 bore. When the Austin Mini was launched in 1959, they sold for £400 - but *only* because they were being made and sold by the hundred thousand. I remember reading at the time that development and set up costs were so high that if only one of them had been sold, Austin's would have to have charged the buyer about £4 *million* to break even!
Great video lads really enjoy using hull cartridge being shooting for a year now still learning but love it! Happy shooting Lloyd
Thank you Charlie.
There are other cartridge manufacturers to consider.
I use Fiocchi sporting black 8's 28g.
Great all rounder for everything: sporting, skeet, DTL.
AND a lot cheaper than Hull.
I used to use Hull Pro One 24g until they got ridiculously priced.
Buy the cheapest you can get, unless you're sponsored, they're a waste of money
I agree 100%
100% this
Couldn't understand much you said, but, I did enjoy the background blasting.
Cheers.
Thanks for watching.
I'm sure there is good information here, but it is nearly inaudible with the low speech volume and louder surrounding noise.
Could you done on the different disciplines ie, DTL, ABT and Olympic trap
For clays all I ever use is 21gram, never seen a clay they can't break. Very underrated and under used by most folk.
My favourite cartridges? The cheapest. I get a good deal on Superfast so I use them.
Great to see more video's on shooting in general. Not to put other channels down, but I think you can do them better. Keep them coming.
Thank you Mike.
I shot 50 comp x 21g fiber though my sxs on the clay ground friday hand it was a pleasure to use
Hi Lloyd, could you do a review on different shooting glasses. I love the Pillars but too dear.
I'd love to, but for that I would need to get the kit to test. None of the manufacturers are interested in someone doing a comparative review, so I would have to buy them, I cant afford that.
Bring them to America.
for sure !!!!
world domination i’ve heard american cartridges aren’t as refined as european cartridge
We're waiting..............
Hi there since watching part one of your series I’ve had 10 shooting lessons and have applied for my license! Looking at getting a browning 525! Thank you so much for these they are really helpful
Good luck with getting your licence. I applied over a year ago and only a few days back got a reply from Police to schedule an interview.
@@jimbob4447 what area are you if you don’t mind me asking
@@TS4M931 London so I fall under Met Police. It may be less time now as they are catching up and if you're in a different area.
@@jimbob4447 Ahh I’m in Manchester so maybe won’t be that long fingers crossed!
@@TS4M931 Yeah just be prepared to wait a long time as its affected the whole country of course.
The Met still say on their website up to 6 months wait but that's nonsense and from speaking with a shooting club owner this morning he knows people who have been waiting 14 months and heard nothing so I'm lucky lol.
Im very happy with the performance of superfast but find them incredibly dirty, my gun is full of confetti after 100 shots! Are the higher end Hull cartridges any cleaner?
Odd I’ve never found them dirty particularly. I assume you are shooting fibre? Where do you store your cartridges?
What is your take on steel cartridges? Coming from Sweden I never used lead so can't tell the diffrence, but from what I've heard people used to shooting lead never wanna go steel 😉
We are planning a vid on non toxic in the near future.
Looking forward to that and hear what you have to say about it 👍
I use steel for skeet, Gamebore #9 super steels through a cylinder choke with a 94 average, put 3 99's in lately with them, they are perfectly good enough for any shooting up to about 50 yards before losing a bit of energy and pattern falling away, but the people whom don't like them have never shot it most of the time. You get 20% more shot due to weight & density of steel so for Skeet they absolutely dust the clays with even the most open of chokes.
Here in the Netherlands we arnt allowed to use lead either …😢
My biggest advice for beginners is apply for your license straightaway , some schools do a caddy system so you can shoot without the license and use the most cartridges on the clays you miss , it feels good hitting easy targets but you learn nothing
I applied for my licence over 1 years ago and only a few days ago finally got an email from the Police to arrange an interview.
COVID has massively slowed the process right down.
@@jimbob4447 which authority are you in? I've been waiting for 7 months now
@@andypenf5170 London so Met Police. They lie on their website and say 6 months but the officer who emailed me said it had been jammed up for 2 years.
hi Lloyd i my self use hull but i use comp x for my sim days where i use 400 plus in a day in 21 gram and all my other shooting superfast 27 gram ive got most my freinds on superfast now great cart cheers
Thanks Peter.
I really rate Superfast shells, they are as you point out very consistent and punch above their weight, but cartridges from "other manufactures are available" and comparable. Don't stick to one brand, there's a whole lot more brands out there, give them a go.
They all break em,,,, some break em better than others!!
Cool advert.
Hi Lloyd, I noticed that on your belt you have a cartridge bag and a little round one, similar to the chaulk bag climbers use, what is that for.
It's a release aid bag, but I keep my ears in there and a choke key. Not that I have used a choke key since I got the Perazzi...
Lloyd,
what glasses were you wearing shooting DTL?
Great video.!!
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I ues hull supper fast 27, 7.5 fiber, I'm new shooter I'm on to my second thousand now. Does bywell have Solo shooting system, ie the delay so you can shoot alone. I'm only down the road in Co Durham
Yeah they do, always plenty of targets on.
@@lloydyp great thanks, I'll have to have a run up .
Well well well, shooting a K80 now Lloyd 😉
Saves cleaning mine :)
I bet if you were sponsored by Eley then they would be the mutts nuts lol
Difficult video to watch. Sound quality very poor over the shotguns in the background.
Don't think it's my device as it's the same on my laptop.
Just thought I'd let you know, for next time 😉
Regardless, love your content 😁
not a fan of super fast there too kicky the comp x is my go to for volume of shooting 24g is a good half way in
a decent cartridge even the little 21g comp x is capable for practice i think hull have got to have the best range of cartridges out there for clays
im not a fan of compx, i usually buy Eley select, better quailty/same price, or Eley oly blues, try some
Cartridges Far Far to expensive people are leaving shooting because of the high prices!
You need Sash..!!! 😈 or maybe not 🙃
I cant afford Sash...
Shooting in the background was very distracting
i think that’s the worst video you have done as it’s just an advert for Hull cartridge who is your sponsor . Disappointing to watch and hear over the repeated gunshots.
I learned to shoot clay birds with a .22 rifle when I was a kid. When I found out you can use a shot gun, I said, " Where's the challenge in that?"