I’ve been back and watched the rising sons documentary two or three times now. That short time was made so much more special with being able to see behind the scenes. Thank you for bringing this back :)
As a Quins fan, great to see Cadan and Marcus springing around in training as well as the old boys Care & Marler putting their shifts in. I hope they all make it to the RWC!
really enjoyed rising sons during the last campaign buzzing for this to be back, regardless of what sour fans tend to say, this squad always works hard and shows how tightly knit they are as a group. Class.
Danny Cares record, when he starts against the top teams has been abysmal. He goes quiet and into his shell. Great club player though and that’s the difference in mindset between those who can make the leap. Please check his stats as a starter for England against top 5 teams when he was playing. Goes missing in action
Looks like a happy camp and they seem to be putting in some serious conditioning work so maybe we can dream big because there is a lot of talent in that squad in my opinion.
Good to see but no matter how hard I try I just cannot imagine a game plan or style Borthwick is capable of coming up with to steal a march on the other teams. So un-convinced by him
Watching these insights I try to pick up clues as to how both Spencer & Mitchell get dropped whilst Youngs JVP & Care do get picked Yoda left England a truly skewed group with far too little cover at pivotal positions of 2 8 and 9. No one on evidence of 6N &Premiership would choose the Leicester 9's oh apart from their former coach & his 2 Tiggs lieutenants. Ewels looks like he must be next forwards coach on the block does speak 'coachies' well, a bit like Blunderwick short of top test class but an excellent player and def. a better speaker than SB.
As much as I love these viceos, I have to admit this is the least excited I have ever been about a worldcup from an English rugby perspective. I have always looked at the positives, but it is very very hard to do so with the state of English rugby at all levels right now.
I actually think this (eventual) squad could have the beginnings of a renaissance about it. (Genge, Mercer, Willis, Earl, Mitchell, Lawrence, Kelly, Murley & Arundell, around a rejuvenated Farrell, Itoje, Lawes, Tuilagi, Steward & Watson) The bigger question is whether Borthers can inspire them to over-achieve. The impressive Sinfield apart, it does seem as though the coaching staff is mostly “nice guys” rather than motivational performance gurus. I hope I’m wrong.
@@mikegray8776 yeah I like Sinfield in there. A mixture of a conservative Borthwick and too average in too many positions has me kind of resigned to mediocrity for the foreseeable. That said I’ll back the lads 💯
The squad and management reek of mundane and middle of the road rugby. Don't see anything inspirational sadly. Has Borthwick ever managed an international team before? Obviously backing them but I see them getting out the group maybe then losing very early on in the knock out stages. And it will be back to the drawing board. Should have let Eddie have one last crack of the whip with England and Owen Farrell as captain. They came so close last time and that burning desire because of pervious failure would have helped immensely. We'll see what happens Edit: should get rid of those shite umbro shirts too
I don't get this increasing trend of targeting certain players incessantly for abuse publicly; see Harry Maguire in football for the most egregious example. Its a form of bullying. Ewels isn't there for his flamboyant persona and sparkling wit; he's a professional sportsman. There's such a reflexive ease to abusing players like this when they're simply flawed human beings who's job has a higher profile.
Sorry, but the fact you haven’t included Adam Radwan, the greatest England wing prospect since Jason Robinson, says it all . None of the wingers that you have picked have the energy and speed of Radwan. Where are the game breakers, the playmakers, people who can give defences nightmares. This team is flatfooted and has no game breakers. Radwan’s highlights reel alone gets him a seat on the plane with these plodders and don’t mention bs defence stats, he’s up there with the best. As ZinZan Brook said, “if Adam Radwan was in NZ, he’d be an all black’…..enough said.
A quality player and wouldn’t it be wonderful to see both of these guys start. Other than Arundel, there’s no real flair in the squad. Watson has been a great servant but he’s at the back end of his career, as is May.
@@priceyboy4478 really? The England backline 2000-2003 was full of flair and guile. Suggest you check out their greatest tries and then tell me there was no flair. Will Greenwood was a magician and Jason Robinson flatfooted the whole Rugby world…..this England team looks like they run in mud. Happy to be proven wrong.
So glad to see this back. Absolutely class series.
I’ve been back and watched the rising sons documentary two or three times now. That short time was made so much more special with being able to see behind the scenes. Thank you for bringing this back :)
As a Quins fan, great to see Cadan and Marcus springing around in training as well as the old boys Care & Marler putting their shifts in. I hope they all make it to the RWC!
really enjoyed rising sons during the last campaign buzzing for this to be back, regardless of what sour fans tend to say, this squad always works hard and shows how tightly knit they are as a group. Class.
Watching Murley and Arundel place next to one another is exciting.
What an asset it is to have an individual like Kevin Sinfield in this group, inspirational bloke
It's interesting that the Quins boys have grouped off in the evening. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Danny!
Danny Cares record, when he starts against the top teams has been abysmal. He goes quiet and into his shell. Great club player though and that’s the difference in mindset between those who can make the leap. Please check his stats as a starter for England against top 5 teams when he was playing. Goes missing in action
@@frostysfreeway2320he has but he's been very handy off the bench
Surprisingly wholesome seeing 30 100kg+ men screaming their heads off
You can really feel a difference in team dynamics under this new venture.
Gengey doing the Storror whistle 🤘
Looking forward to the upcoming episodes 👍
This is great. Wish the Springboks had some off the field stuff like this
Great to see.
Looks like a happy camp and they seem to be putting in some serious conditioning work so maybe we can dream big because there is a lot of talent in that squad in my opinion.
What an experience it must be to be involved in this camp. Looks awesome lads.
Great fun! Keep these coming 👍🏼
Aled is the best s and c coach
ITS BACK LETSGOOOOOOOO
love seeing joe back
18:53 some cheeky gestures sneaking in there
Is there a purpose for the green balls? Iv thought maybe something to do with keeping an eye on the ball? If that makes any sense 😅
They're the Gilbert skills training balls, all with different textures and weights for making you react differently, if you mean the solid green ones
18:03 this lad alright?
Well spotted
Surf shoes Danny, surf shoes.
Haven't seen one of these in a while i forget eddies not here anymore😅
I really hope Danny gets his chance.
Bit harsh doing the player in focus for Charlie Ewels given he’s already been dropped from the squad 😂
Murley is a starter
Do they need the number for gambler's anonymous?
Good to see but no matter how hard I try I just cannot imagine a game plan or style Borthwick is capable of coming up with to steal a march on the other teams.
So un-convinced by him
Come on England
Watching these insights I try to pick up clues as to how both Spencer & Mitchell get dropped whilst Youngs JVP & Care do get picked Yoda left England a truly skewed group with far too little cover at pivotal positions of 2 8 and 9. No one on evidence of 6N &Premiership would choose the Leicester 9's oh apart from their former coach & his 2 Tiggs lieutenants. Ewels looks like he must be next forwards coach on the block does speak 'coachies' well, a bit like Blunderwick short of top test class but an excellent player and def. a better speaker than SB.
Wheres Manu Tuilagi?
Sale and sarries players aren't available for selection yet
As much as I love these viceos, I have to admit this is the least excited I have ever been about a worldcup from an English rugby perspective. I have always looked at the positives, but it is very very hard to do so with the state of English rugby at all levels right now.
Out at the group stage likely. Poor players, dreadful coaching team. Good luck England.
Would you say anyone in this England squad is intimidating?
Yes
0_2, I thought England was just advertising thier losing rate against South African in world cup finals....
Harsh and it hurts but funny and fair as well. 👍😁
Love island boys come on wtf
The fuck is Marler doing there?
I believe, and I might be wrong, but training for the Rugby World Cup later this year
No ways these lot winning the WC. Had ALOT better a chance with Eddie
Wow we’re a seriously Vanilla squad from management down over. I’ll be backing us as always but far from inspired to be totally honest.
I actually think this (eventual) squad could have the beginnings of a renaissance about it. (Genge, Mercer, Willis, Earl, Mitchell, Lawrence, Kelly, Murley & Arundell, around a rejuvenated Farrell, Itoje, Lawes, Tuilagi, Steward & Watson)
The bigger question is whether Borthers can inspire them to over-achieve. The impressive Sinfield apart, it does seem as though the coaching staff is mostly “nice guys” rather than motivational performance gurus. I hope I’m wrong.
@@mikegray8776 yeah I like Sinfield in there. A mixture of a conservative Borthwick and too average in too many positions has me kind of resigned to mediocrity for the foreseeable. That said I’ll back the lads 💯
The squad and management reek of mundane and middle of the road rugby. Don't see anything inspirational sadly. Has Borthwick ever managed an international team before? Obviously backing them but I see them getting out the group maybe then losing very early on in the knock out stages. And it will be back to the drawing board.
Should have let Eddie have one last crack of the whip with England and Owen Farrell as captain. They came so close last time and that burning desire because of pervious failure would have helped immensely.
We'll see what happens
Edit: should get rid of those shite umbro shirts too
Still pretending we're gonna do well in the world cup?
Charlie Ewels cements his place as the dullest rugby player on the planet
The fundamentals are around the basics.
I'm sure you'd be far more entertaining buddy
Say that to his face tough guy
seemed alright tbf
I don't get this increasing trend of targeting certain players incessantly for abuse publicly; see Harry Maguire in football for the most egregious example. Its a form of bullying. Ewels isn't there for his flamboyant persona and sparkling wit; he's a professional sportsman. There's such a reflexive ease to abusing players like this when they're simply flawed human beings who's job has a higher profile.
Sorry, but the fact you haven’t included Adam Radwan, the greatest England wing prospect since Jason Robinson, says it all . None of the wingers that you have picked have the energy and speed of Radwan. Where are the game breakers, the playmakers, people who can give defences nightmares. This team is flatfooted and has no game breakers. Radwan’s highlights reel alone gets him a seat on the plane with these plodders and don’t mention bs defence stats, he’s up there with the best. As ZinZan Brook said, “if Adam Radwan was in NZ, he’d be an all black’…..enough said.
Arundell?
A quality player and wouldn’t it be wonderful to see both of these guys start. Other than Arundel, there’s no real flair in the squad. Watson has been a great servant but he’s at the back end of his career, as is May.
@@frostysfreeway2320 england have never been about flair though
@@priceyboy4478 really? The England backline 2000-2003 was full of flair and guile. Suggest you check out their greatest tries and then tell me there was no flair. Will Greenwood was a magician and Jason Robinson flatfooted the whole Rugby world…..this England team looks like they run in mud. Happy to be proven wrong.
Very bold statement to make from behind the keyboard. I’m sure Steve borthwick knows a bit more than you do.