Ken was probably pound 4 pound the best MMA fighter from 93 to 96. He had the best all around skills and combine that with his strength and decent quickness he was the best of that era.
Ken was just so dominant during this period in MMA history. He had Smith scared to throw a strike for fear of being taken down & even managed to get in a couple good licks of his own. Once on the ground it’s all Shamrock
I never understood why Maurice Smith got into Pancrase; a more grappling-based sport. He was more of a striking purest. Maybe he felt that his striking was good enough to carry himself to victories. Eventually, it brought him good fortune as he got to train and form a team with Kohsaka and Frank Shamrock and improve his ground game.
I'd contend that in many ways a striker was better off in Pancrase. You're not going to get your brain rattled with ground and pound, and you've got 4 rope grabs where you get a free stand up. Really those rope grabs are what made Pancrase great for strikers, because now your opponent needs to take you down 5 times to beat you instead of just once.
Maurice Smith, was out of his zone in the foot wear section Pancras style. In his own stand up domain he is deadly. My opinion lots of respect for him.
He was willing to try something different and learn. My Guess is they paid well too. If he never did pancrase, he would never have been able to beat Coleman in the UFC. That friendship with TK, and Shamrock led to all 3 of them cross training and becoming top level fighters for that era.
The sport is at a much higher level now . Shamrock at his best is a mid level fighter at today's standard.. and the gloves don't soften the blow it's to protect the hands from breaking and less cuts .. in this video in this fight they were not allowed to punch only slap..
What are you talking about? You really believe that slaps with no gloves are harder to take than real punches with close fists and mma gloves? Mma gloves are more about protecting the hands than the opponent.
@@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207 Palm Strikes aren't harder than punches but when used accurately to hit behind the ear you can rock someone with it but it is nowhere near as powerful as a punch
3:56 bruce lee take down 5:23 bruce lee submission I think shamrock has master on how to encounter distance with perfect timing for a take down and with his skills and strength and knowledge made him a great martial artist...👍 Plus i notice he's ALWAYS focus every second...👍
Maurice bear Coleman because Maurice had been paying his dues in Pancrase. The training with him, shamrock and tk followed a pattern to better each other and they all improved. No one, myself included back when Coleman was dominate expected Maurice to do squat , but that’s because we thought he was a one dimensional kick boxer. By the time he fights Coleman he had developed a decent takedown defence which few non wrestlers had at the time.
Must have been before he fought Mark Coleman and had less experience in MMA. He was able to win that fight but wasn't much he could do against Shamrock.
Ken Shamrock used to pro wrestle shoot-style in Japan under the name Wayne Shamrock (Wayne is his middle name). When his friends Minoru Suzuki and Masakatsu Funaki started Pancrase (Real shoot fighting, no works) they asked Ken to come along and fight under the name Wayne because of the popularity of it already.
You know it's fake when they're both not allowed to punch and aren't in America or Russia, all these older fights have predetermined winners and everything
Not true I think you mean shooto you wanna see ground strikes in one of these? Simply look up the bas rutten vs shamrock fight, the Japanese frowned upon ground and pound but it was legal
@@ajcastellon5903 I just watched it and btw there are apparently 2 fights between them, in neither fight does either of them throw a single punch, the best we get is a slap to the face but nothing close-fist
Wayne vs. Ken would be a phenomenal match!
Ken would destroy wayne
@@jrsmith5930 I bet it would be a tie - they are too equal.
The FITNESs FRaNk VS both of them would be a PUUUMMmPped match
They are both the same person. Wayne Shamrock was his Pancraese ring name.
@@TK42108 That's the joke.
Ken was probably pound 4 pound the best MMA fighter from 93 to 96. He had the best all around skills and combine that with his strength and decent quickness he was the best of that era.
His shot was fearsome. Too bad injuries from his WWF days took away from his abilities
@@Gotchism4Life injuries and he got too heavy. Once he left WWE his quickness and mobility wasnt there anymore.
@@Joseph-lz5er Absolutely agree.
I think he put on too much muscle mass for wrestling on his already muscular frame ....
Don Frye and Marco Ruas were the other 2 great all round/complete MMA guys from ROUGHLY the same era so it's hard to pick one, IMO.
Ken was just so dominant during this period in MMA history. He had Smith scared to throw a strike for fear of being taken down & even managed to get in a couple good licks of his own. Once on the ground it’s all Shamrock
The TSA pat-down before the fight was funny.
モーリス・スミスは、アメリカンキックからスタートしてMMAまで、いつも新しいスタイルに挑戦していて。キックで実績があるのに守りに入ることがなかったですよね。
進取の精神というかほんとそういうところで尊敬できる選手です。
THANKS！
Si bueno!
Maurice was one of the first really good big men. In k1 he was great .he's not match for modern day mma fighters.
So, apparently coming in as a kickboxer with no grounds skills and then not throwing any strikes is a bad strategy.
In the Pancraese league, open strikes standing are permitted while closed fists are only allowed on the ground.
@@TK42108 Not exactly correct. Regardless of standing or on the ground, no closed fists to the head.
Ken's strength was phenomenal in his prime. Smith was a big dude. That doesn't stop Ken from dragging him around the ring like a jaguar.
Wayne Shamrocku!!!!
Wayne is Ken shamrocks long lost Orphan twin and is amazing at fighting just like Ken is!! Yay for Wayne 😄
I never understood why Maurice Smith got into Pancrase; a more grappling-based sport. He was more of a striking purest. Maybe he felt that his striking was good enough to carry himself to victories. Eventually, it brought him good fortune as he got to train and form a team with Kohsaka and Frank Shamrock and improve his ground game.
Looked absolutely terrible in striking here.
I'd contend that in many ways a striker was better off in Pancrase. You're not going to get your brain rattled with ground and pound, and you've got 4 rope grabs where you get a free stand up. Really those rope grabs are what made Pancrase great for strikers, because now your opponent needs to take you down 5 times to beat you instead of just once.
I think you answered your own question. If I suck on the ground how do I improve unless I work on it?
Maurice Smith, was out of his zone in the foot wear section Pancras style. In his own stand up domain he is deadly. My opinion lots of respect for him.
He was willing to try something different and learn. My Guess is they paid well too. If he never did pancrase, he would never have been able to beat Coleman in the UFC. That friendship with TK, and Shamrock led to all 3 of them cross training and becoming top level fighters for that era.
The 3 musketeers Ken, Frank, & Wayne. You know shits poppin off when alter egos become reality
Frank is Ken Wayne Shamrocks adoptive brother.
Would've loved to have seen Shamrock v. Kerr in their primes. Who do you guys think would've won?
With roids and headbutts, Prime Kerr wins comfortably. You don't earn nicknames (Smashing Machine) in Brazil unless you are something special.
Waynes brother francis is an excellent fighter too....
Ken was definitely a true worrior and gladiator of our time!
UFC guys today wouldn't be able to handle these guys from past lol no gloves....no rounds.. whish it was like this now
The sport is at a much higher level now . Shamrock at his best is a mid level fighter at today's standard.. and the gloves don't soften the blow it's to protect the hands from breaking and less cuts .. in this video in this fight they were not allowed to punch only slap..
What are you talking about? You really believe that slaps with no gloves are harder to take than real punches with close fists and mma gloves? Mma gloves are more about protecting the hands than the opponent.
They aren't slaps they are palm heel strikes and yes some of Bas Ruttens would be harder than a punch.
@@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207 Sure boss rutan had great Palm strikes but his punches were much harder
@@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207 Palm Strikes aren't harder than punches but when used accurately to hit behind the ear you can rock someone with it but it is nowhere near as powerful as a punch
3:56 bruce lee take down
5:23 bruce lee submission
I think shamrock has master on how to encounter distance with perfect timing for a take down and with his skills and strength and knowledge made him a great martial artist...👍
Plus i notice he's ALWAYS focus every second...👍
Wait are they fighting with palm?
In pancrase there was no punches, only palm strikes were allowed. Besides that you could kick the head and the liver of the opponent.
@@testemunhosdahistoria9688 Cool I never knew that 😎👍
The True Godfather of MMA. Lets be honest when this UFC/MMA thing started we all wanted look and be like Ken.
MMA is son of many fathers. Bruce Lee, Inoki, Marco Ruas and Shamrock.
@@LeigagemFightingChampionship Minoru suzuki and Funaki?
モーリス スミスはボクシンググローブしてない この頃の方が個人的に好き
He looks and fights just like his brother
Did Frank shop at Victoria’s Secret for them bottoms?
Ken Shamrock
Frank Shamrock
Wayne Shamrock
I got confused what is the difference between them
#kenshamrock 💪🏼😎👊🏼 what a great sport 😁
No time limit is most important then u really know who wants it
I think all the diamond shamrocks are now valeros
NOT Wayne, but Ken! Badass!!
And to think Smith beat Mark Coleman.
And he beat Marco Ruas too!
Maurice bear Coleman because Maurice had been paying his dues in Pancrase. The training with him, shamrock and tk followed a pattern to better each other and they all improved. No one, myself included back when Coleman was dominate expected Maurice to do squat , but that’s because we thought he was a one dimensional kick boxer. By the time he fights Coleman he had developed a decent takedown defence which few non wrestlers had at the time.
that was fucking awesome....
Wtf was that @ 3:43???
Shamrock: le vice â l'état pur!!!
One of the best of all times:small ego but like to fight and hurt: definition of a real warrior!!
Must have been before he fought Mark Coleman and had less experience in MMA. He was able to win that fight but wasn't much he could do against Shamrock.
Wayneee shamrockuuuuuuu 0:12
Maurice never been a grappler
What is this no punch on ground
Palm strikes allowed on ground fighters respected that except masafunaki rutten frank rutten most visible ones
Pancrase was originally based on pro wrestling rules. In pro wrestling you can't punch with a closed fist.
スミスが、オープンフィンガーグローブを着けていたら、ミルコぐらい活躍してただろうな。
掌底はキックボクシングの人は不利に近い。
Who the fuck is Wayne Shamrock?! Lmao
Ken Shamrock's twin brother. He died from AIDS in 1997.
Ken Shamrock used to pro wrestle shoot-style in Japan under the name Wayne Shamrock (Wayne is his middle name). When his friends Minoru Suzuki and Masakatsu Funaki started Pancrase (Real shoot fighting, no works) they asked Ken to come along and fight under the name Wayne because of the popularity of it already.
I know right that's what I was thinking apparently that's his middle name or something we all know it's Ken
More importantly why is Wayne got is underwear on the out side
It's his middle name
Шамрок класс
Wayne???
What's this lame "escape" call, right before he gets a choke in?
打投極＋タックル
Fitness FRanK will destroy these wimplings!
darce choke finish
Wow wtf is best sport
No es boxeo, no es lucha libre ni artes marciales, entonces que es esa Picha?
Na grab me some skittles..not a really big fan of maurice's piece's..
You know it's fake when they're both not allowed to punch and aren't in America or Russia, all these older fights have predetermined winners and everything
Not true I think you mean shooto you wanna see ground strikes in one of these? Simply look up the bas rutten vs shamrock fight, the Japanese frowned upon ground and pound but it was legal
@@ajcastellon5903 I just watched it and btw there are apparently 2 fights between them, in neither fight does either of them throw a single punch, the best we get is a slap to the face but nothing close-fist
@@ajcastellon5903 so idk what you're talking about
@@doublehelix2167 yeah because you don't know pancrese rules closed fist punches to the face weren't allowed lol fist to the body was allowed
@@ajcastellon5903 I've got my hand on my forehead shaking my head after that reply
k
Profesional vs amatir.
Que bixo seboso essa Smit...não chuta e nem soca representando o Kick boxe 😂
Maurice Smith was too much like a female
Moueez smiezzzuuuu!
There is no Wayne Shamrock. This is Ken Shamrock. He as an adopted brother Frank that looks nothing like him.
DarkEngine his first name IS Wayne, he chose to be called Ken after he started fighting professionally,,, do you’re research bud lol
@@JohnDoe-mw9fs Forgive my ignorance in this matter
@@JohnDoe-mw9fs wrong Ken is his first name Wayne is his middle name.
Royce Gracie nothing else to say
That Japanese dude and Matt Hughes beat Royce like a ragdoll lol
Kazushi sakuraba > all gracies
UFC 5 beat down. Nothing else to say.
Ya the Japanese Gracie Hunter raped the whole Gracie dynasty