DID IT SUCK? | Doctor Who [SEASON 1 FINALE MEGA REVIEW]
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Harry closes Doctor Who Season 1 / Series 14 with a GIGANTIC review of the final two episodes: The Legend of Ruby Sunday and Empire of Death.
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How did the guy who write series 1-4 write this
It’s not even like overall his writing quality has declined. His writing on it’s a sin, Nolly and years & years has been fantastic. This series has had such weak characterisation/ character development and really lacked that “human” dynamic you saw in roses family, for example. Which is so weird, cause that’s Russell’s bread and butter.
@@hannahmaria6887 agreed, it's a sin is great. Hopefully season 2 of DW is an improvement
@@hannahmaria6887 Exactly this. Suddenly he like "ah, you can interpret a reason" no, we NEED a reason beyond this absurdity.
@@hannahmaria6887 Russell sounds like a cranky old man now who wants to tick every diversity box going screw making a good finale.
Yeah, glad to hear some other people who see this. If you guys find out a reason put it in this thread :)
23:43 I beleive someone said either 'Flux' or 'Wide Blue Yonder' would have been perfect times for him to latch on, one has the universe falling apart, the other is on the edge of reality, the best time for a monster like him to slip free and latch onto the TARDIS like a lifeline.
Even then it doesn't make sense for sutekh to come back since after rewatching pyramids of Mars, it's said he'll be dead in 1000 years and the doctor is like 2000 by now.
@@ChamiliaticI can buy Sutekh escaping death, especially since he’s been appearing in extended media under similar circumstances for decades now. Him just chilling on the TARDIS for 50 years of DW is hilarious.
This is my head canon. It's just too rediculous otherwise
You are right... I heard it mentioned in another Video I watched yesterday from WhoTuber Harbo Wholmes. So far, The only RUclipsr I have heard suggest that...
@@Synthpopper amount of times the tardis gets destroyed or nearly, BUT OH hes just clinging on the WHOLE TIME...... yeah thanks rtd
I think it is more than fair to say that RTD never watched Moffat’s series’ 😂
No, given the podcast stuff concerning the TARDIS cinematography I really don't think he did.
RTD: Says that the camera being on top the TARDIS following Millie around it has "never been done before".
Moffat Era: Shows Clara going around the TARDIS with the camera on top of it.
23:16
Recall the Capaldi episode on Skaro? When the TARDIS is blown to smithereens, and then later re-assesmbled by the sonic sunglasses? Where was Sutekh for that duration?
There is no answer, because these episodes have little to no thought put into them.
My son and I were just talking about this and that is something he picked up on as well... The TARDIS being blown to Smithereens in that Capaldi Episode as you just said, The Big Bang / Pandorica Opens from Matt Smiths Era, The End of Time with David Tennent (when the Master turned the TARDIS into a Paradox Machine... ) - Sutekh was REALLY on top of the TARDIS through all of that???
The TARDIS is within and without time. Obviously. How did the TARDIS reform after being destroyed?
@@matthewb9621 this has nothing to do with time, or the destruction of the TARDIS. It was dispersed in the room. The point is, where did Sutehk go?
@@yana5284 And when the TARDIS inhabited the body of a real woman and could talk? Didn't think to mention the giant evil space dog living on top of her. When the Curator gives Eleven a bunch of nudge nudge winks about what he has to do now, you'd think he'd give himself the heads up about a potential issue with the big blue box.
Oh well....
@@captbuckyohare5585 One excuse I hear is that the TARDIS didn't want to violate the timeline/causality.
Sure. Why did Bad Wolf Rose do nothing then? She didn't care about the rules (made Jack immortal), knew she could control and 'see everything', yet didn't 'see' Sutehk, or feel like removing him from the TARDIS right behind her despite wanting her Doctor 'safe'?
People need to stop excusing RTD's dire writing which contradicts even his own stories.
No... retconning the Doctor into only being a grandparent to a grown-up Susan, but never having had the lived experience of being an actual parent yet, meaning he's never known or raised his own children, undermines EVERY instance where The Doctor has mourned for his lost family destroyed by the time war, or when he's ever connected with someone based on his experience as a parent. That is not a good thing this episode did.
Jesus, as recently as 5 episodes ago, The Doctor leveraged his role as a dad as a means to to reason with the AI in Boom ("Dad to dad, dust to dust!"). It's just so bloody careless to take that authentic part of The Doctor's character away and it weakens and hollows out every one of those past moments.
No That is a terrible bit of vandalisation.
To me, I think the implication of the scene (though maybe not implied good enough) is that the Doctor has met or even raised his own children, but he hasn't necessarily 'had' them yet, aka he does not know the mother, but he has played a role in their lives.
I didn’t take it that way. I took it as a “as of 2024 he doesn’t have kids yet, because they’re born in the 49th century. But Susan is on his mind and he’s thinking about her, so he has a granddaughter but not kids yet… since chronologically as of 2024 they don’t exist yet.”
@@Jamestopboy I don't think that's it at all. It very much came across that he hadn't experienced having kids yet. Kate's question was "You've got a grand daughter. That means YOU'VE had kids" and his response was "No, not yet." He's talking about his experience and his progression through his own timeline. You can deduce this, because he's never qualified Susan in this way. Even when in times where she doesn't exist yet/anymore, he never added this weird extra qualification. I hate to make guesses as to why they did this, but maybe they want the Doctor to come across as younger and more relatable to that target, younger audience and maybe RTD thinks having him be a parent / grand parent or come across as an ancient being in a young man's body (a la Eleven) makes him less relatable? Which would be... incredibly dumb.
@@captbuckyohare5585 Perhaps, but my way makes more sense.
This was definitely the worst RTD series. I honestly thought when he came back his writing would be massively improved. It's worsened. Somehow...
Right !?! The Space Babies episode felt as silly as Partners in crime, but the rest..? I can only surmise that Disneys made him go so heavy handed on the non Doctor Who stuff. I could almost enjoy Dot and Bubble but it very much felt like I was watching a Black Mirror episode and I really dont like Black Mirror. I dont know what the other show Ncuti was filming that caused them to have to not use him in two episodes, but maybe dont debut your new Doctor, with a new parent company, with a new shorter episode order, with a new mandate to have scenes that are great to post on TikTok, when hes not available 100% of the time.
One thing I don’t understand about this whole sutekh on the TARDIS situation, is that we’ve had established in the show that perception filters don’t make you invisible. The master even said during the episode “the sound of drums” that the perception filter didn’t work on him. Surely he must have seen Sutekh when he stole the TARDIS then…?
"And from that day onwards, Harry's Moving Media never reviewed Doctor Who again"
Oh my god, until watching this review, I did think the implication was Louise's step-father was Ruby's father! That information was delivered in such a strange order
Did it suck? If Doctor Who was a vacuum cleaner my floors would be spotless and clean!!! 😂
doctor who since series 11 yea
If these two episodes were a Vacuum cleaner, I would have NO FLOORS OR CARPET! And I am saying that just from THE REVIEWS... Even Council Of Geeks said it was a MESS! And they LOVE Nu-Who!
hahahaha
@@pk251 I wanted to give this season a shot, but I'm gonna manifest into existence the fact that Dr Who stopped after season 11. (Even if the finale of season 13 went in an interesting direction)
Sutekh’s servant turns into Scarman as he was killed by Sutekh when he enters his tomb in Egypt, he isn’t just a random character. Usually I like your reviews but your critique of the Pyramids of Mars seems like you trying to find negative things about it rather than putting yourself in the perspective of a fan from 1975, as it’s one of the highest rated Classic episodes and is also one of my personal favourites.
Yeah I felt that he was being too harsh
You're allowed to critique an episode without having to pretend you're from 1975. If something sucks in retrospect, it just does.
When ruby's mum said it's the beast I burst out laughing sounded like Mr beast
That reaction. At the end. That was me after the bi-generation fiasco.
I don’t know what this show is, but they seem to have snorted a bunch of something, knocked out a first draft at 4am, and slapped a “Doctor Who” sticker on it.
Don't know why Davina McCall couldn't find Ruby's mother.
There’s zero reason an experienced lost family finder like that wouldn’t be able to track her down given she’s an NHS nurse with a degree and an active social media presence. Shows like that have found people with far less information. 😂
Similarly, Doctor once purged himself from all records, but doesn't know how to search social media? Okay. Parallel but not directly connected thought: Ap Gwilliam instigating forced gathering of DNA samples = bad, but Mel secretively sampling Susan Triad’s genetic composition = just fine?
Even the super-duper evil capitalist AI killing machine from the future couldn't find Ruby's parents. That was 5 episodes ago. Is RTD banking on us not remembering 5 episodes ago?
@@captbuckyohare5585 That’s such a good point because the cope I keep hearing is that they couldn’t find her until Gwilliam’s mandatory DNA testing in 2046, but the ambulances were thousands of years in the future. If Ruby is in their databanks, her mum 100% should have been too.
And yes, Russell is absolutely relying on us not remembering what he set up in earlier episodes. 😂
You know what? RTD’s first era is still my favorite era of the show, but I kind of wish he hadn’t come back after Chibnall left. That way I could just mentally associate him with the era that I love instead of all the issues I have with his new era.
Your scoring is far too generous!
I feel as if you’re trying to make a purse out of a sow’s ear by looking for the good in something that just isn’t there.
Beginning to think the Disney acquisition is leading to a dumbing-down for short attention spans and forced emotional responses, with a bit of nostalgia to bait existing fans only to abandon them at the end.
As someone who lives near Catford, I can confirm the police probably do need Units help for crime out here…
Hate the trope of "the twist is that...there is no twist"
Yeah, but Russel and all the neo-libs LOVE the TLJ style subversion twist even though it's just stupid and unsatisfactory.
The closest thing to a twist in the episode was the actor literally being called Susan Twist in real life.
( 23:46) he was also wrapped around Suranne Jones in The Doctor’s Wife.
17:25 The beast would make sense since he's an idea manifested into form and it would be really cool. The black guardian is another. Sutekh was never a god just extremally powerful.
Always wanted The Beast to come back. Wasted opportunity.
@@yana5284 especially when it's the same voice actor. Voice and body finally working together as one cohesive being
I KNEW you’d use the “ball-tickling” line in this video 😂😂😂 was waiting for it and it came in the first minute
So did Harry, from the ball tickling
@@GDNITE 😂😂😂😂
honestly one of my biggest issues with empire of death is how easily the doctor gets the tardis back, it wasn't a big struggle or anything he just blows a fucking whistle
He could have just gotten the other one from Donna’s backyard or does that have its own Sutekh which is still undefeated?
@@Longshanks1690 I think 15's tardis isn't a cloned tardis it's a future tardis after 14's like how 15 is still after 14 in terms of age, therefore sutekh wasn't cloned either, assuming I understand that correctly
So basically the sutekh on 14's TARDIS would be a past version not a clone
@@JoboVT so the younger Sutekh just silently sat around for the entire episode. And very calmly watched as it's future self was beaten
Fans have been attacked by people from the show for not liking this series. I think one reason why is b/c they truly don't see how bad what they made was. Multiple people have said this felt like a first draft script. But maybe it wasn't. And they know all the even dumber ideas that they left on the cutting room floor. And thought their final idea for getting out of the stupid corner they'd written themselves into (ex. by hyping up Ruby's origins) was super clever.
And they're mad that us fans don't see how "good" it was. But we don't know anything about the worse ideas they considered first. We only know what we were presented with.
Ironically, RTD in a tweet (after his return was announced) lambasted the younger generation of writers for not loving TV and not knowing how to write for it. And just wanting to write to promote their representation agenda. Wow. Hypocrite much?
Proceeds to write that somehow a dog was sitting on the TARDIS never since 4th's era.
My biggest issue is with the doctor. How can you be so unfocused to LEAVE YOUR BEST FRIEND AT UNIT WITH A POSSESSED TARDIS! Kate is asking for help and directions and all the doctor can do is yell “I know”
UNIT also sent Rose out to B&Q for a tin of tartan paint.
and a long wait
@@simonsdad6205Spirit level bubbles
3 seems generous, I gave it a zero - but then I also had major issues with Journeys End, give me a Big Bang any day - and this was the Big Bang without the Stone Dalek to keep the tension up, the cracks and big bang 2 to make it make sense - and a replacement emotional conclusion that felt so cheap and forced....
...anyway... 0/10
Lenny eating Pizza is my spirit animal
3:24 That wasn't Susan's last screen appearance. She's in The Five Doctors, aka the 20th anniversary special, where she meets the second, third, and fifth Doctor on-screen. It's an oddly unceremonious reunion considering when she had last scene her grandfather. To be honest I don't think the classic Who writers particularly cared about the Doctor's personal family drama at all lol.
"Why stay if you don't like what you're doing?".
Never had a job before?
Me after the brief review of Pyramids of Mars: 😐😠
Also me when he said Dudley Simpson’s music was terrible: 👿
It's kind of funny how consistently Disney can make good things bad. Star Wars is one of the most successful shows of all time. Doctor Who is the longest running shows of all time. Both already successful globally, now both relatively dead and unpopular.
Lmfao at thinking Star Wars is dead or unpopular. Doctor Who has never been good and it’s dying again. Star Wars is better now than it’s ever been.
@ReySkywalker2 Some of the most delusional bs I've ever heard. Doctor who used to pull in 10 mill an episode, now it pulls in a quarter of that. A special used to pull in 1.8 mill, now it only pulls in around a quarter of a mill(In box office£). To claim the longest running show on air which had a global audience before disney who was never good is insane.
Whilst the disney star wars trilogy was originally successful, it's still lost Disney billions because the revenue has not covered the costs, the latest couple of films, "Solo" and "The Acolyte" have been absolute failures which have lost the company money and reputation regardless of the fact they had a much smaller budget than previous films and got a free £50 mill grant from the UK government.
@@ReySkywalker2nice rage bait 👍
This Season was better than previous ones
@carealoo744 Yeah, maybe it was better than the chibnall era, but that doesnt mean much.
I love this depressed, vaguely sociopathic review man
I preferred Kates Unit in the Matt Smith era, made sense hidden in the tower of london rather than inside a big class obnoxious building, kinda reminds me of Torchwood that got destroyed. It's very hard to blame RTD here so what else has changed I can only think Disney's input since the BBC is virtually broke so we all know who is bankrolling this.
I guess it was Doctor Who's turn to try to imitate the MCU. With recreating Avengers tower/Unit HQ, a multiverse/whoniverse, Thanos/Sutek dusting people away into death, reversing the dusting using time travel, etc.
Oh god no. I’d rather have Kate here instead of “oh remember who my daddy was! Look up my father! Tell me than you’ll try and attack us cos of what my father did! Ooh! Zygons in my shitty doctor who experience ?! BOMB LONDON!”
It's gotten to the stage where I could've confidently outperformed the last two Doctor Who showrunners with zero experience and a head full of ideas and honestly that's pathetic.
Sutekh wasn't traveling from Egypt to England via the time vortex, he was in a time tunnel between the two locations. The Doctor kept shifting the end point in time till he aged to death. The TARDIS was parked in the priory so how can Sutekh of got attached?
Also the TARDIS the 15th doctor has is the duplicated TARDIS. The original is with the 14th Doctor. Watch which version the 15th Doctor gets into, it's the one that is the copy
Yes. It wasn't the time vortex in the original show. It was a space-time corridor from Egypt to England established after the force field restraining Sutekh being projected from Mars was destroyed. But there was a four minute delay while that force field restraining original Sutekh was still in effect (Mars at that point was four light-minutes away from Earth so the force restraining Sutekh was still arriving at Earth during this 4 minute duration). This allowed Dr 4 and Sarah-Jane to race back to the Tardis, leave Mars, and materialise on Earth before Sutekh could leave his prison via the space-time tunnel. Dr 4 moved the end of that corridor into the far future, effectively trapping Sutekh in a never-ending journey into the future. There were many plausible ways to potentially bring that villain back without contradicting the original story, including having him exit into a far-future Earth.
@@DoctorHowTV
Absolutely, and with a big bad as powerful as Sutekh is supposed to be, narratively the best thing would be to treat him like Cthullhu and never have him escape at all and have the plot revolve around minions trying to set him free or restore him.
Even with the salt thing the Sutekh stuff just makes no sense. Sutekh somehow duplicated or was left behind...?
Worst part of ep when she asks for readings and he goes over 2ft and sees a big screen with big flashing red lights and warning signs, and he says , it’s over the charts. Everyone in the room can see it’s going off the scale, so stupid
RTD:
Screwdrivers that *might* look like guns 😟✋
Literal guns on single person wheeled transportation aids 😏👉
Couldn't agree more. The writing is just so shallow, confused and honestly boring. No thought or passion has gone into this. I'll just keep re watching RTD1 I guess. What a shame- I really expected we'd get another peak era from him. He said Disney wouldn't interfere. I suspect they did- asking for big budget stories and scenes, over thoughtful characters and plots.
I thing Bad Wold Self-Censored themselves to go with Disney style. Listen to that swirling Disney-esque music as Ncuti jollies around his new Tardis. Everything is grotesquely sugar-coated. Uurrr... i hate this nonsense.
27:03 is me literally me every episode after he cry’s
That kid ate that slice of pizza in 8 seconds. I tried it and could barely stuff the whole thing in in 8 seconds let alone actually eat and swallow it
This entire series relied on lots of dialogue that told us what we should’ve been shown instead. I honestly hate the scenes in UNIT, I really do. I don’t care for any of those characters and no amount of reassurances from The Doctor that these people matter will make me believe that they do. They’re just there. Rose, why was she there? She’s not qualified or old enough to work at UNIT. Moreover, the big return reveal only works if a character is an established character we’ve already warmed to and like. I know nothing about Rose other than some branches of her family tree, her gender identity, and her tendency to boss others around. It doesn’t exactly scream “memorable”, does it? Kate is just a cardboard cutout who tells people what to do some of the time and spends the remaining screen time narrating what others are doing or asking redundant questions we don’t care to know the answer to.
Also, you were exactly right. Ruby isn’t a legend and I wasn’t bothered about her origins. I was more confused about why RTD pushed this ‘best friend’ narrative so much between two people with absolutely no chemistry. Ruby is one-dimensional and her only redeeming quality is that’s well-dressed, I suppose.
One thing I’ll say I hated this season was the fact we didn’t have a consistent Doctor outfit. The one thing we did get was an excellent performance in his reveal outfit in Dot and Bubble. But changing outfits every episode makes it feel less Doctor-y
17:17 she said "it's the Beast" because the same voice actor for Sutekh was the one who voiced the Besaast in that episode. It's an easter egg, that is very misleading, if you dont know this yourself
The character assassination of Sutekh was so annoying, he was so unique in expanded media.
25:38 Harry I subscribed to your patreon to get access to your Sarah Jane videos and while I enjoyed the live reaction style I was thinking they were going to be did it suck style edited reviews. Maybe consider doing some for SJA since you’ve done torchwood?
Glad to see someone else asking where tenth doctor is. Every time the doctor said "I am the last the time lords" I would shout "no your not" as tenth is around but they just seem forget that fact
As tempted as I am to correct you and say actually it was the 14th Dr not the 10th at this point Doctor Who Cares. The whole continuity is just batshit crazy now.
I love your reviews so much man
27:50 I wonder if RTD realies trying to be "cute" with the "cultural appropriation" thing, actually makes him look like a hypocrite considering Sutekh still takes heavily form Egyptian mythology (Even saying Set/Seth is one of his names)
I agree that Wild Blue Yonder was the only great episode. Also, all new Doctors are supposed to be a great jumping on point for new fans. And with this being re-branded season 1, I was expecting an especially clean slate. But this seemed to be the worse jumping on point for a new fan, due to all of the reliance on past Doctor Who knowledge (recent and classic).
The first minute of this video made me know I was in for a good time 😂
With Susan triad being human, I know she isn't the doctors granddaughter, but it could've be explained through a chameleon arc
10:00
This is a nu-Who problem because in classic Who (certainly prior to Douglas Adams) you knew why he didn't just hop in the TARDIS and go back five minutes; because he couldn't control it and could wind up anywhere.
Nah the doctor could more or less control the TARDIS after the three doctors
@@omnishambles5956
I think you're wrong. As far as I remember the entirity of Peter Davidson's first season the arc was trying to get Tegan home and failing. Doctor Who has always relied on a "looks like I took a wrong turn at Albuquerque" opening for about two thirds of its stories, so a story in which the Doctor materialises the TARDIS in the exact right spot to catch River Song as she is blown out of an airlock, to use an egregious example, flies in the face of one of the essential premises of the programme.
@@markpostgate2551 yea but the third doctor was able to land on the Axons’ ship at exactly the right time, the fourth doctor managed to land where he wanted for every story in season 16
I have to say it's nice hearing Waltz of the Flowers and Bob-Bom Battlefield in the reviews again, I feel like Brian could show up at any moment...I do need to get back on the Patreon train!
The biggest and most colossal mistake in this entire two parter is probably having Sutekh win because there's no way you can come back from that believably with the tools the Doctor currently has at his disposal, which leads to incredibly stupid solutions like a dog whistle and a fucking lead somehow defeating the last of the Osirians.
If Sutekh was surviving through the TARDIS but also had become trapped by it so he's trying to break out of the time vortex to enter our world to kill everything, the options for solutions are more plentiful and gives you more room to manoeuvre, but as it is, "death + death = restoring all life" is just... silly.
Either that, or this really needed to be a three parter at least because ending and then rebooting all life in the universe in less than an episode is just not believable when it requires beating such a famous villain like Sutekh. It makes the stakes feel non existent because we know everyone is coming back, it makes THE GOD OF DEATH feel non threatening because he was so easily undone and it makes the episode feel so rushed because of how a monumentally important event was undone so easily.
Such a disappointing waste of potential.
At least he didn't pick up a ball and play catch with the dog.
@@leonais1 Don’t give Russell ideas for next series’ finale.
They let him win b/c Doctor Who wanted its MCU Infinity War moment, where Thanos won and dusted half the universe. But everyone knows it's going to be reversed, it's just a matter of how. And I feel it was done poorly in both instances.
My question is, must the universe end every season? Can't we have high personal stakes without a universe ending threat.
It would have been nice if Ruby was actually a descendant of Susan
One thing, The Doctor was giving that exposition as it may have been the first time Ruby heard some of the story and the people at UNIT may not know everything either. So going over what already happened makes sense.
I don't know what happened to Russell but I miss when he actually had fun twists. Like at least make Ruby, a spawn of chaos like the Trickster's kid or something. Something for people to latch onto that has some meaning. What a waste of that cloaked figure.
I agree but I still think it’s miles better then the chibnall era but that’s not hard
lot of modern media has become obsessed with being "SuBvErSiVe" in my opinion, more obsessed with doing what's unexpected even if it's not entertaining, makes sense or any fun, like it's a big guessing game where they just want to go "see ! see ! bet you didn't see that coming ! i win !" of course i didn't see that coming, because i was expecting something exciting, not boring, that was boring.
@@skyguyflyinghigh Take me back to army of ghosts and the Cyberman's reveal. Now that was how it's done.
@@STOTTINMAD yeah, and the master coming back, bad wolf, face of boe, lot of fun twists, just cause something is a cliche or not subversive enough doesn't mean it isn't one for a reason, some things are cliches just because they're fun, it's why they're popular in the first place.
@@JonathonHouse-iv3bx Even though RTD dropped the ball with this finale he is a better character writer than Chibnall. I've seen more personality in Ruby within 9 episodes than I did with 3 seasons of Yaz.
There’s an old Newman and Baddiel sketch series called “Ray - the man afflicted with a sarcastic tone of voice”
Not sure why I’m bringing this up here and now.
I’m just glad to see that my negativity isn’t an inherent problem and that Harry + commenters here share my disappointment in this finale and season as a whole. I had a lot of hope for RTD’s return but here we all are, surprised and dismayed that nothing really landed and his twists just aren’t what they used to be apparently 🤪
Anyway, thank you Harry for this cathartic video, your sarcastic one-liners and cynical reactions were very much appreciated here. Also, you making fun of yourself for having hope earlier in the review was hilarious and exactly the type of humor my brain is on rn after these episodes. The Aloe Vera gel and tea tree oil joke had me cackling and the “Doctor who cares” ??? LMAO. The more objectively bad doctor who gets, the more hilarious and necessary your reviews become XD
My headcanon for the shoplifting investigations in Catford is an escaped Travast Polong.
I think you were a bit harsh when critiquing Pyramids of Mars. Most consider it a really good story and there are high stakes with a lot of side characters dieing and I think it’s good. The set and death scenes looks under par because it’s 1970 I guess. I tend to avoid criticising set design and special effects in classic who.
Legend was good at setting up and I thought it was entertaining and intense towards the end with the reveal of Suteck and Mel had something to do for once but Empire of death was a total let down and undid a lot of positives of legend. They hyped up the mother in the time window scene and the reveal of the black cloud over the tardis was interesting(it did build up my expectations about the big baddie and the mum. I thought she was a part of Suteck’s plans somehow initially) but it did feel quite underwhelming when it was just a random woman, when Russel was hyping it up so much. Also, how does 73 yards tie into all of this? It’s still unclear. How is he going to tie up all the plot holes left in one episode that Moffat is writing( I think RTD said that all mysteries will be wrapped up in s1.)
You were quite nit picky at times, I think eg: criticising Susan’s Theresa May walk and saying who cares, I thought it was a funny moment personally despite it being 5 years ago.
Overall I agree with most of your opinions except for Legend.
Space babies 1/10
Devils chord: 3/10
Boom: 8/10
73 yards: 8/10
Dot and Bubble: 7/10
Rogue: 4/10
Legend: 7/10 initially a 9 but Empire did bump it down for me
Empire of Death: 3/10
Each to their own of course, but I don't know how you could give 73 Yards 8, especially when it leaves so much un answered. Then in the finale the Doctor talks about Apgwilliam or whatever his name is, ... but according to 73 Yards, Ruby stopped him so he was never even a big thing. Where as in this episode, the Doctor says he stopped him. ... Make it make sense. Don't get me wrong, I kind of enjoyed 73 Yards, and if it had been a stand alone fear story, I would have enjoyed it more. I don't know if you know these refferences, but I got major Fear On Four or Man In Black vibes from it. I'm a bit of a radio geek. :) As a one off story like that, it was great, and the horror elements were really well done. But as part of this season and how it's all supposed to tie in together, it just frustrated me. Like, are we supposed to think that Ruby never did stop Mad Jack, because she never broke the circle? Or are we supposed to think that it's a paradox, so there was a version or time line for her where she did stop him, but she just can't remember? ... Seriously, I just don't get it.
I'm not trying to be an arse, I'm genuinely trying to understand it. I would entertain the possibility that Russell is just way too clever and I don't get it. But look at the pay off for this finale. The whole Ruby's mother thing. What was the significance of any of that? I'm baffled.
I enjoyed it as a stand-alone episode but at the time I assumed he will answer those questions. Maybe they will be answered in the Christmas special(although it’s unlikely maybe season 2.)
I have seen theories that the circle was established by a creature called the Fae and when the doctor stepped on the circle he disappeared but ruby had a less severe punishment. There’s a lot more to the theory and I think on Reddit they go into a lot of detail but I agree the way they tied it in finale wasn’t good.
Personally, I did enjoy that episode but I assumed we will get answers and maybe we will someday.
this is the first time ive thought about the tardis groaning since wild blue yonder, i didnt even notice it when 15 was the doctor, nor think it was relevant for the finale
I wish Ruby was the daughter of 8's companion Lucy Miller
That's an interesting idea! Could have been a cool connection, since the mother was a nurse anyways.
@@ojigbo I would it would added depth to the series and made sense considering the minisode Night of the Doctor made 8's big finish adventures canon.
Does anyone know if Harry will finish reviewing Sherlock, would be interesting to see his opinions on S3?
21:12 I need more bullets, I need more bullets, Bigger weapons.
The fact that he said that she is shrouded in a cloak because time itself shrouded her but that she had to be for the sake of the story really doesn't make sense. The whole Sutekh stuff just falls apart when RTD says he was on since the 4th Doctor's era because of the amount of times he really should have got off by then. The fact it was a human woman and not actually someone interesting makes the Devil's Chord age badly. I literally thought when they found out who it was they had managed to retrieve the data from the broken monitor, so now realising it was just UNIT's systems didn't help the whole database thing from earlier and felt contrived.
Best transition to a Skill Share advert ever 👏 did you learn to do that using Udemy?
Honestly I thought the Legend of Ruby Sunday would have lead to the reveal that Ruby was completely fictional and the whole series had been set in the Land of Fiction with 15 now taking on Rose as a companion.
What is also unbelievable is that Rose works for UNIT, she’s fucking 15! The other kid is at least a boy genius but what can she do?!
Fill a checkbox for UNIT inclusivity? Other than that, maybe got her the job under The 14th Doctor's recommendation
What can Rose Do? She can save the entire world because ........ "Non binary". Oh, and because she knows everything and the Doctor knows nothing. ... Or is it just the male presenting, white, straight but maybe not straight any more, David Tenant Doctor who knows nothing ...... even though he's the same person. ... I forget how these things work, and I think it's a safe bet to say that Russell has forgotten or doesn't care. LOL
@@theredguy4043 shouldn’t she be in school though?
Best not to question it. RTD doesn't want us to have our say in anything
@@theredguy4043 didn’t have the guts to kill any of them
i shared my skills, but was left with nothing
I had that Art Attack CD! It was great!
A thrillville reference in 2024.. I’m old lol
@HarrysMovingMedia OH MY GOD... I have so been waiting for your review!!! Again, I feel I must stress this as I am doing what I often do now when Doctor Who airs and waiting for all the chatter to die down before I watch this season... And I need to boot up my VPN to watch it via another country as I dont have nor want a TV License... Normally, I would watch Doctor Who at my mothers - But she has not been interested in this season...
I have heard a LOT of "Meh!" reviews... It seems this finale has people very divided, Some love it, Some hate it... Others are just plain underwhelmed! And I love your reviews as they are always very HONEST!
9:57 OH COME NOW HARRY! This one is well established Who Lore... The TARDIS is Semi-Sentient, Its a Living Machine... Normally a TARDIS requires 6 TIME LORDS to pilot it so that it cannot just go where it decides it wants to go... The Doctor Flies his TARDIS virtually alone - So his TARDIS takes him where he is NEEDED, NOT always where he wants to be!
So, There is a Canon Reason why he cannot Travel Back in Time to speak to Susan Triad, The TARDIS wont allow him to! (Yes I also know that Sutekh is involved too... But lets ignore that for now! As it is already established the Doctor CANNOT DO THAT ANYWAY!) And he would also be going back onto his own timeline which is also a NO-GO! (BLOODY HELL! I think this is the first time I have ever CRITICISED YOU!!! Bloody Hell!!! But yeah... You dropped the ball on that one!)
20:15 LMAO! Of course I have already seen reviews.. And I was just telling my mother today while out shopping how they Defeat Sutekh... SHE ALMOST CRIED LAUGHING!!! If just THAT one reaction to someone who has not seen the new series is anything to go by... Doctor Who is in SERIOUS TROUBLE!!!
26:04 AHHHHH! That explains the MEMORY TARDIS... It also puts pay to some body who, Like me has clearly NOT watched the episode who was saying on another Review "You cannot just Build a TARDIS out of Scraps!" - I did point out to him that in both Classic Who and Nu-Who... They have done just that a number of times... BUT THEY DIDN'T BUILD A TARDIS, So his "Criticism" is Moot anyway!
And for what its worth, LOVE THE IDEA... I have very Nostalgic Memories of Classic Who, so for me it hits all the right beats...
27:59 RUBY: "I don't understand? What was all that Egyptian Stuff?" THE DOCTOR: "Cultural Appropriation" - WHAT THE ACTUAL... NO RUSSELL! NO! WHY DID YOU GO THERE YOU MUPPET!!!
For literally over 100 SODDING YEARS... People have debated if the Pyramids were in fact a Creation of ALIEN LIFE FORMS, And that Egypt was ruled over by Aliens that they mistook as Gods... For crying out loud, People still believe this conspiracy theory NOW IN 2024!!!! The entire point of PYRAMIDS OF MARS was that this Conspiracy Theory was in fact CORRECT! So it would NOT BE CULTURAL APPOPRIATION BUT CULTURAL CREATION!
What the sam hell has happened to RTD??? I am being serious here - WHAT THE HELL HAS GONE WRONG? Most reviewer's have AVOIDED these specific lines - I dare to say so as to not provoke the "Right wing" Muppets who will starts Screaming "Get Woke, Go Broke"... But NAH! I am not right wing, I am as much as I can be a Centralist... So when someone MISAPPROPRIATES something such as Cultural Appropriation I am calling that out!
I want to watch the series... I really do! But right now... I feel its going to be as Painful as the Chibnall Era!!! And ESPECIALLY THESE LAST TWO EPISODES! Russel used to be so good at being "Balanced" in the Politics and pointing out all sides Hypocrisy... Now he just seems to be latching onto the latest Buzzwords And worse, HE ISN'T EVEN USING THEM RIGHT!
34:17 OH DEAR GOD... YEAH! THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT!
FINALE; A 3/10 - DAMN THAT WAS SCATHING! And yet... Even without seeing it - I think I bloody agree with you!
Ncuti Gatwa 35:37 "Don't you think he looks tired?".
36:40 you are the first person I’ve seen with the same take as me . I was pretty shocked they went there just to be confused at how any missed the weirdness in the script when the actual father is revealed
They could have had sutekh still trapped in the time vortex but the gods or whatever they are are steering the tardis and doctor into running into him again in the time vortex. Then at that point we could have a big final episode with the trickster for example loosing but it was part of the plan and sutekh latches onto the tardis then once the doctor has been put into the right place.
At that point we would only see some fog latch on and small odd things happen in the next series until a big reveal at the end of that series to show sutekh has returned like the hints of the missing planets or bad wolf but that one was rushed.
17:32 I believe this was meant to be a lil reference to the fact that the same guy voice acted Sutekh and The Beast. But it's a bit too 4th wall breaky to make sense so it just feels like it comes out of nowhere
With the Unit comeback - I was suprised that basically almost no member of Unit, beside Kate and Mel were back. Like did the wheelchair gal die or quit after the whole Toymaker plotline?
1:11 I probably would have started with Ruby's plotline - and after failed Time Window situation, we could have Mel mention S Triad event happening right now, which with Doctor getting interested - they would notice Susan Triad. Which would start connecting both plotlines in a simpler more streamlined way.
1:25 Yeah, that was kinda effed up. If we gonna move to Disney, give us the proper 10 episodes, with all those cool variants.
4:10 Sorry to stop you - but Rose just shouldn't have been in this episode. Like, if we had those two more episodes with Susan Triad - then maybe we could squeeze her there and have proper dialogue for her. In this two parter, she literally stood there with a tablet. It's just disrespectful to us and the actress. The smart 13th years old could stay - cause he seemingly took over the wheelchair girl's spot and if we gonna have representation - then let's have it this way.
4:40 In general I would say - aside Rose - all actresses in those episodes carried the whole thing (and in her case I blame the script). Mel was fully giving Doctor, when she was shaming him or when she saved him on a bike and Ruby was once again the centre of if all, always in the character. And then Kate and Sundays only are getting better with each episode. Harriet was really playing it nicely as the Sutekh follower and Susan already have shown us nice range through this whole season. Like give them better script and let's go!
5:50 To be honest - I was fully expecting the Time Lord watch reveal here.
6:40 Can we talk for a minute about Time Window? Cause that was really cool idea, instead of going the classic NCIS, "we have extra zoom" ability.
7:10 Tbh - this is mostly a build up for the Christmas I guess. Which - to be fair I am genuinely hyped now. Mrs. Floods have been fun character and the interactions with Cherry are always top notch.
10:30 To be fair - Mel was working there with Susan.
22:55 That delivery kinda killed the episode for me. In general Ncuti really has been throwing this season off for me. And it's not like he doesn't have good moments or doesn't feel like a Doctor. It's just the lines and some delivery is ridiculous or flat... As if it all was filmed on different days and only he couldn't bring the same energy between the scenes or something...
23:35 Tbh, I am not bothered much with him being there for so long time. The memes are good.
24:55 Probably curiosity and boredom. Like imagine ending the world, but you never get to know that one secret.
32:55 I think the whistle is a reference to the classic era? At least that's what people have been telling me, lol.
35:10 Her being ordinary was also kinda a callback to Bill and her mother. The story and legend of her became powerful through faith, which is fitting when we are dealing with interdimensional gods. Also she gave suprisingly nice performance for such small role - like the whole Ruby reunion scene was one of the better parts of this season.
They all got fired as soon as Kate realised her workforce could be even younger. 😂
No - the actress was unavailable, but she’s been seen filming for S2, so she’ll be back next year.
@@Jamestopboy nice
@@mjm3091 surprised there wasn't a blind person there what a joke.
Ya’ll may not like the finale… but you can’t deny… *Gabriel Woolf’s (voice of Sutekh) got STYLE*
I can't wait for this. I love having all my feelings validated
I enjoyed reading rhe Classic Doctor Who books. The stories were very good
i thought it was just my dumb understanding of english that led me to believe rubys stepgrandpa was rubys father but it seems like im not the only one. thanks for clearing that up!
I honestly don’t know what went wrong here. It felt like this season was rushed so they could film season 2 simultaneously and all the scripts for the finale were the first draft.
I really wanted Ruby to be a offspring of The Trickstar or something like that. Maybe The trickstar wanted the god of death dead so he could rule with chaos and form an uneasy alliance with the doctor.
You know I was willing to overlook a lot of the more.... goofy elements of this series as teething issues, and I genuinely did really enjoy eps like Boom and 73 Yards. But damn, I'm annoyed at how disappointing these last 2 episodes were. After 5 years of chibnall i thought there was a light at the end of the tunnel but it seems that was just a train coming from the other direction. Hopefully next series will have a more satisfying conclusion :/
I don't think it's going to get any better. It should have been left after whittaker left, give it a break of another 30 years and let someone fresh come to it.
@@nellaethelflaed124830 years is crazy
How has this Season been relying on the past other than Unit and Sutech?
I have never been so happy watching a review as to be reminded of Thrillville!
i think the reason it snows whenever ruby feels the strong emotions is the same reason sutekh was able to use that field thingy, whatever they said it was to push out clones of susan, if a god is using whatever it was to literally will things into creation, maybe ruby as a passenger of the tardis could do the same, they said a big thing was the importance they gave to rubys mother, no matter how ordinary she actually is, so that level of importance plus the strength of the emotions, could mean ruby created snow the same way sutekh created triad clones
it also makes sense as to why Maestro was able to sense it, the same type of creation sutekh does, so it allows maestro to feel sutekh, and thats why they were scared
I'm pretty sure Dr Who is done after the next season, it just needs to disappear for a while.
What they should've done with the TARDIS is keep the groans but make it somewhat lose power as it happens, making it look like something is slowly killing the TARDIS.
In The Devils Chord, they could've looked as the TARDIS was groaning and seeing the lights flickering as if it's losing power. That would have looked very cool as The Doctor and Rogue are inside it during Rogue, it groans and the lights start going out and flickering.
They could've done the same in The Legend of Ruby Sunday, having the TARDIS lights flickering as it groans and Sutekh appears.
Who's interested in bloody Skillshare?
@@the-scamp need to make there money somehow *sigh*
@@leejones8582 I agree. There are RUclips ads in this video, for that
To tease viewers with all sorts of storylines without payoff is like teasing a dog with a steak then taking it away. Maybe the hooded lady could've been Jenny. I mean C'mon RTD give us some meat. Going forward maybe the thanos moment could change that stupid Cybermen becomes timelord malarkey.
Honestly I don't know how they can raise the stakes further in the future with this Endgame styled finale
16:08 Harry makes a Doctor moment
Really excellent critique. Not mean but so true. Really just needed a rewrite to clean it up
at the end of the giggle we learn that 14 took rose to mars. MARS. this would have been the perfect *actual* moment for sutekh to hold onto the tardis. it would make sense that, because 14 and 15 are the same doctor just at different points of their timeline, the same would apply to the "cloned" tardis, meaning it's reasonable to assume that the moment he clung onto 14's tardis, he was also attached to 15's tardis.
This double episode felt like it was from a first draft script. It gave me the same confusing effect