Where do the Memphis Grizzlies stand after double-digit loss to Thunder?
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- In a battle of the top two seeds in the Western Conference, the Memphis Grizzlies loss 125-112 against the Oklahoma City Thunder. In this episode, co-hosts Damichael Cole and Joe Mullinax discuss the game vs OKC, Ja Morant's importance, and GM Zach Kleiman's recent comments about the trade deadline.
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Blaming Ja for lack of free throws is a bit lame. Ja did not drive to the rim as Shai. Free throw disparity was obvious. Memphis went 28-39. OKC went 17-21. That's a +18 free throw disparity! Memphis got the calls, Shai, not so much!
It’s so ridiculous chasing KD over guys like Jerami Grant or even Obi Toppin.. ITS A PROBLEM IF YOUR GM ONLY KNOWS THE FAMOUS BASKETBALL PLAYERS
We won something bigger than a championship. We were able to land 3 second round draft picks at the trade deadline 🤪 it’s game over for the league
We are so good against everybody except the very top teams. Concerning to say the least if we hope to contend
It’s the fact that we have 2 rookies starting really upset GM didn’t pick up somebody to take over starting role from wells I love Jaylen wells but we need somebody more consistent and with more experience in that position
Beat the Celtics and bucks and wolves btw.
@@Keith1424ESwells isn’t the problem at all. Wells has locked up some of the best players and is the reason other teams starts dont play well. We need Ja to play better and be the number 2 to jaren to maximize this team
@@JayyyMrGoDumb Ja not playing well because of the new offense
@@JayyyMrGoDumb we need better rotations/subs. Jenkins sits Edey only plays in the first and then sits most of second and not seen in third every game. JJJ and Edey got the lead cut to 5 then he pulls them both out smh. He goes away from what works just to sub in players bc we have a deep roster. Now on the other side....SGA played the ENTIRE first quarter.
I never hear anyone ever talk about trading Ja. It is blasphemy to even think such a thing. Like you said...JA IS BY FAR THE BEST PLAYER TO EVER WEAR A MEMPHIS JERSEY, WHETHER IT IS TIGERS OR GRIZZLIES.
Until Ja develops a dependable midrange shot, he will always struggle against good teams. He's of the Derrick Rose/Westbrook archetype. If they not getting to the paint, they will struggle. Derrick Rose developed a respectable jumper later in his career. Ja should do the same NOW.
THATS KEEN ANALYSIS! my exact thought. Shai and Ja have similar playstyles however Shai has mastered a mid ranged shot, meanwhile ja can sometimes knock down 3s but hes just always driving into the paint and looking to draw a foul. That just doesnt work there has to be another offensive tactic.
Also John Wall - great handle, no shot.
We just locked in to a playoff run starting 2 rookies. Kleinman is on his last days.. Playoffs are guaranteed to be painful for Memphis
I don't Jenkins is the best coach for this team he took them far as they go
Ja becomes an offensive liability whenever we play against good defensive teams
I think he has ptsd from all the injuries and is trying to play a different style, post season he won’t hold back.
@@hillbilly21960nah he just forces everything, especially against teams with a star pg
@@jalen5740thank you someone else that sees it. He forces it against better players like he got something to prove. Dude should be averaging 10-12 assists a game with this roster r
@@trueprophets4704 exactly and even if he needed/wanted to score he’ll struggle against good teams because he’s not a good shooter
I don't really have an issue with the coaching staff not relying on rookies, but Edey was 2 for 3, 1-1, couple blocks and boards in 13 minutes. 13 minutes, you can't really say he was hugely disappointing. But again, sometimes intangibles are a coaches call based on intuition or even the players not doing something they should do. But damn, I think both rookies have earned more minutes to even get any kind of rhythm. But you're exactly right. We just need to try to get a high enough seed to avoid OKC in the playoffs as long as possible. I think we win a 7 game series with them maybe 1 or 2 times out of 10, maybe. Most other Western teams not even that, OKC is THAT good this year. That's not necessarily a bad reflection on our Grizzlies. We just have to hope for this year that we get to them and EVERYTHING clicks when we play, and for following years that we're able to keep this young and improving team together better than they can.
Do you watch basketball? Clearly you don't . Zach edey is too slow, fouls and turns the ball over against good teams. He couldn't even box out Hartenstein
@ek1743 Edey was not the probably in this game, it was Ja. He played horrible and cries everytime he doesn't get calls.
@lilcw76 i agree about Ja but Edey was terrible. 3 fouls in 13 minutes
@@ek1743 but he also had 3 rbs and 5 points. He was no worse on defense than anyone else on the team. There's going to be growing pains and the coach has to let him play thru it if he's gonna get better.
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Okc is definitely a better coached team and also they hustle harder. Notice how our players barely had wide open shots because the thunder take pride in not letting you score. Every game our top 3 players lead the team in turnovers. I also hate to say this but Ja has really regressed. If he cant flail his body against you and get you in foul trouble, he wont prolifically score against good defenses.
its the new system
@brandoonf6962 ja literally has the ball in his hands and either turns it over, or takes a bad shot. I don't see the new system being to blame
@brandoonf6962 it's not the new system fault Ja constantly tries to make flashy dribble plays and passes instead of the fundamentals
@@ek1743it’s cuz of where Ja is needing his teammates to stand.. it seems only Bac and Santi know how to play with Ja.. jake did too
it is the system ja plays best with pick n roll... not this everybody drives kick which leads to teams trappin him in the paint.
Blaming the rookies make no sense ya cant panic when teams go a run. After the first six minutes they missed easy shots and were down by 4. Taking edey out allowance Hartensin to dominate the glass.
The rotations are terrible. They work when we play bad teams but it has not been successful against good teams. Even when we beat them it’s tight.
agreed. He sits Edey only plays in the first and then sits most of second and not seen in third every game. JJJ and Edey got the lead cut to 5 then he pulls them both out smh. He goes away from what works just to sub in players bc we have a deep roster. Now on the other side....SGA played the ENTIRE first quarter.
@@brandoonf6962sometimes the coach is just working out their roster and the minutes. SGA’s minutes are set in stone. They never change, regardless to how close. Look at the first time they played the Knicks. Knicks were playing starters for many minutes that SGA was sitting where OKC coach could have felt pressure to play him sooner. I think MEM is still working through how and where they will play those guys. Either way yall have a lot of potential and good young guys. GG
@ yea it’s like Taylor Jenkins has a timer for substitution and no matter what is happening in the game he must make the subs.
🎊🎉At least we made sure to secure 2nd rounds picks at the trade deadline 🥳🎉
Ja reminds me of John Wall. Wall was awesome as a rookie but the point guard position changed and Wall was left behind - great handle no shot.
Ja morant aint been working on his game and it shows. Aint no way you been in the league 6-7 years and you STILL cant shoot a lick. 30-33% from three aint gone cut it nowadays.
I’ll let the 3pts shot slide cuz his shoulder but he needs to see where to take midrange attempts.. too often he tries to go all the way down hill
@ i can rock with that assessment. Too many times he tries to go all the way in and just gets stuck. I wish hed work on his game. He still tryna play the same way he been playing his whole career teams done adjusted
@ he could still do that if he had a lob threat like Capela or lively but ge gotta figure out how to stop being point guard in the paint and score.. the logs are never gonna be a thing with Edey and Clarke not jumping out the gym anymore
@ even still Ja tries to throw Santi all these lobs.. this ain’t the team for that, he thinks he is in A globetrotter and never tryna get a boring 30pts
@@iguesss dont we got bagley
As great as JJJ has played, I believe that he has to be a better defensive rebounder. Most of Memphis problems against good teams are rebounding and good man defense.
All a know is I’m betting the whole damn account that wine sweep the entire playoffs.. 16-0 we won the trade deadline and the team is so fortified solid now we can’t lose a playoff game
We missed our window. Boston is holding our trophy.. last year was stolen from us with a series of coincidental tragedies
Vince Williams Jr is going to make a big difference, his plus minus is something I noticed was amazing this game. He plays winning basketball. I don’t disagree with you though, we should’ve gotten another player. I thought getting a one year rental in Brandon Ingram would’ve been worth it before he hits free agency this summer.
We just need to start more rookies. Hopefully next year we can draft a great teenager out the 2nd round to carry us thru the playoffs
Everybody needs to chill. This team and the front office is figuring it out. We need to all realize we are not better at their jobs than them. Give Ja a break. Give Taylor some grace. They’re working out the kinks to have the team ready by go time. Patience young grasshoppers!
holding a grudge is not good coaching. one of the best players in basketball beats a couple rookies for a dunk and they don't play again.....taylor jenkins pouts like a little kid and punishes them, throws them under the bus. hey taylor, sga is doing that to everybody in the league right now, grow up.
I see the grizzlies giving up game 1 in their series again like they do all the time. And once we do that, the series becomes much harder and we more than likely going to lose the series. I feel that exact same way right now. Took 4 games to scrape a win vs Houston. Will probably take another 4 games to beat okc. And then we struggle against any physical team like the clippers, mavs with AD now, lakers even without AD. I dont like being pessimistic but I see a first round exit. I used to say Ja>SGA a couple years ago but now i realised i was completely wrong. Ja needs to get to that level to get us over the line. Maybe we did need a Jimmy butler, experience and efficiency in the playoffs. When Ja isn't firing we still have 3 scoring options to rely on instead of 2
Why did we not abuse JJJ’s mismatch this game? There’s no reason Ja should’ve had 5 more shots than him. Trip against the Thunder should be taking a minimum 20-25 shot attempts if we are going to beat them. Next time we play them they’re going to have Chet too smh.
If you have any preexisting heart conditions, I strongly advise you AVOID watching the Grizzlies this postseason. Not worth it
Grizz are a very good team
OKC is just better…
We didn’t play as a team and all those miss 11 free throws and not rebounding is not going to get you a win😂
@@tracydotson1239 they have something to build but okc is just better. They still are missing Chet Holmgren.
If the Grizzlies can't play Edey and Wells in big games, then they're not ready yet. Stops and limiting second chance points are critical for the teams success going forward.
Grizzlies did exactly what we expected them to.. they made moves like a tanking team and got results like a tanking team.. wonderful performance last night
No surprise, this was normal. We have a good stretch of games left in the regular season to prepare for the playoffs.
@@Eagle8 absolutely as expected. We are in prime position to win it all
Seriously, we can win it all. We know what Aldama and Kennard brings. The X factor is can GG rise to star level and can Vince raise his game.
@@Eagle8no the X factor is Konchar.. we are the champions my friends.. I can hear the music now🎊🥳
They are still very young and it takes time to mature. Look at the Celtics or Denver it took a few years. Seems like they should have went hard for Cam Johnson though. If two first were required he just gave one just to move smart. We could have kept him for years and our firsts will be very low with this team.
Yea this just isn’t our year. Can’t change that
I’m just glad I don’t know how trades work because my dumb behind would have tried to improve the roster.. lol even if it costed me picks..
Trip is our Guy.
I call BS that our owner is looking to spend money. It’s all a lie! I realized that, when they put out that they were going after Durant and Butler. NO THEY DIDNT! THEY WANTED IT REPORTED THAT THEY WENT AFTER THEM.
This is as good as it gets for Memphis
We chased big names like KD Butler and Lonzo last week instead of showing interest in the players we actually needed who fit the timeline ❌
I thought I came to terms with the Grizzlies choosing to lose after the trade deadline but it’s still hurts to watch. Why did we choose to be weakened?
No comment!!😊😊😊
OKC got the grizzlies card plain and simple, OKC has been favored all year to come out of the west.
DaMichael ask him to bring back his floater. Get Kris Middleton or Dennis Schoder or however u spell it in the buyout market.
Takes a real genius to got after KD and Jimmys 50 million when all you needed was a 20 million dollar small forward and you needed that desperately.. I think we have all been outlining exactly why Kleinman can’t stay the GM
refs tried their best to help the complete grizz squad against 80% of okc playing on a 2nd night of b2b. still not enough
We beat Boston, Houston, and the bucks. The grizzlies are going to be okay.
@ yeah until Ja go gangsta again
Swain, we will be okay. OKC is a bad match-up now. Work and preparation can change that.
Desmond Babe is the primary ball handler now.. I don’t think Bane and Ja have EVER played well in the same big game
We should’ve got a veteran center
I’m never gonna let go of the fact that of all the players he could have went for he put up all the resources in a deal for KD Butler or Lonzo.. he isn’t trying to help us he just wants celebrities 🤡
Ja Morant is fine. He just needs to hit 50% of his wide wide open 3s.
I can’t believe we started tanking in the middle of the season 🤮🤢🤮
All I know is we won the trade deadline.. we are close to the salary floor and we are destroying all the teams outside of the top 4
My hot take: Marvin Bagley will start for us soon. Every time Ja drives to the paint, it’s clogged up with players. Marvin Bagley is the only big on the team that is comfortable playing on the perimeter, and can rebound at a high level. His skillset actually fits our system so well. GG will start over JWells too but that’s not a hot take.
I say the same other than the paint is always clogged and Jaren lives on the perimeter 😂😂. He just has to pass the ball more than he does. And GG as a starter is a hot take I believe Vince a better fit and the numbers back that
@ Jaren is comfortable on the perimeter but he can’t rebound at a high level. Ja never has an open paint once he gets by his man. There’s always 2-3 bodies in the paint. Edey and Clarke can’t clear space like Stevo or space the floor. GG or Vince could start, but I think GG just has more potential to be special.
Bagley is not a good 3-point shooter and nobody's gonna respect his shot. He might get run because he's more athletic than Edey and a better rebounder than the other alternatives, but floor spacing is not something he can be counted on to improve.
@ Even if they don’t respect the 3, his midrange game is good and one of his best abilities is putting the ball on the floor and attacking space in the half court. He may not be the best shooter, but he’s still a threat to score if you leave him wide open. Edey can’t take more than one dribble, and Clarke only has one shot in his arsenal, and nothing outside the paint.
@ did you see how hartenstein was helping the Thunder on the perimeter without shooting? Bagley can’t pass like him, but he has way better scoring moves and better shooting. Having a center that’s comfortable playing on the perimeter helps spacing a lot. Remember he came in the league as more of a big wing.
Ja is only good for layups and floaters.. you can’t force him to be a midrange player off instinct.. WE CHOSE NOT TO TRADE FOR A LOB THREAT
Ja is the worst player in basketball if he doesn’t have a bouncy lob threat. Y’all saw how fast the Lakers tried to get Mark Williams 15 mins after they got Luka.. we hate Ja’s abilities and don’t try to build around them
First game they said missing they guys mattered 😢😢😢
Man f that I’m tired of it..are we ever going to talk bout how horrible of a rebounder jj is.. he is the most important player to this teams success maybe even the best player..however he can’t rebound, he doesn’t pick and roll/pop and he isn’t a lob threat..do you know how much better we would be if he could log significant minutes as the 5 but that is impossible bc he’s soft asf..he’s basically an oversized wing that can’t even facilitate..ja looks horrible because of him..if jj was a lob threat it would open up ja’s game if he could be put in the pick and roll/pop they would be dangerous. But no we want to pass the ball to jj and let him post up and put ja in the corner like he’s a f’ing corner specialist..at this point bane is the only player in that starting five that fits..he can shoot decent play making, makes up for jj sorry rebounding skills, and is a decent defender..but either way we eventually have to talk about JJ’s deficiencies and stop praising bc he can drop 25..and don’t get me wrong i am not blaming jj completely on ja’s performance majority of that is due to time missed and the new offense..but jj extremely limits ja..tbh as much as i love jj a better fit would be Zion if healthy and adding a stretch 5 if that was even possible.
Ja's game has not evolved. His offensive limitations are glaring. Besides ramming into bodies, his offensive skills are minimal. With ball in his hands, the ball movement and player movement stops.. that is the exact reason new offensive scheme was introduced. He has not bought into the new offensive scheme. The scheme he plays with, is not a a recipe for long term success. Jaren and Des have evolved in their game over the years, Ja's game has stayed what it was few years back. His defensive focus is dependent on if he gets whistle on offensive end. If Fox can leave Kings, Luka can be traded, Ja is tradeable also.
agreed
JJJ and Santi and great power forwards.. lol small forwards in centers bodies.. BC and Edey have severe limitations as centers..this definitely ain’t our year
Ja and bane have no chemistry for some reason
It’s better we traded for future cap space than gotten a bad player like Kuzma and ruin our teams chemistry. We got OKC in the WCF
Should’ve started Vince
Second half OKC was sailing, If they took the whole game seriously the grizzlies would have been beaten by 30
Okc just got hot and we had a bad shooting night. No way they can beat us in a 7 game series
Are you trolling I can't tell
@@zackchittendenGotta be😂
@@zackchittendenHe's made several ridiculous post.😂
What I learned from that game Vince should start n eddey n wells can't play those type games we killed a 20 point lead easily could've won but now we kno we can beat em
OKC is cooked.. they have SGA we have JOHN KONCHAR🔥👹🔥
Mann takin bout Ja missing shots, Shai was 8/26. Shai getting superstar whistle and Ja not and that’s the problem
We just needed one more trade honestly. Cam Johnson is super overrated but if we got a combo big like John Collins, JJJ would be even more effective on both ends and Ja could be a highlight reel again. Atp we could just bring in any small forward or keep GG and Wells but JJJ has too much on his table other than scoring the way the roster is built
JJJ more effective has you seen his numbers on both ends. But numbers are better than Wemby out side of blocks. We need Ja to be magic in the 80s on the court and give us 10-12 assist. And Jaren needs to rebound better.
Ja and Bane together is like the best back court duo imaginable. They really highlight eachothers strengths.. hope they retire as teammates.. no one else, ever..
Certain matchups just not good for certain people so Jaylen Wells just like certain Bigs not a good matchup for Zach Edey that’s why we have Vince Williams jr and need another Athletic big with that being said Jaylen wells shouldn’t start every game base it off matchups
After the trade deadline we are hands down the team to watch out for in the playoffs. We can beat any team
No joooooo you gotta stay on that side now
That’s what happens when you wait the last hour on the deadline to make your moves 😂 1,000,000 excuses for the GM of this Godforsaken franchise
Get Jo off this show please
It’s the hustle factor. OKC runs non stop, covered in sweat. Ja and company lollygag. Sorry, but it was just weakness and conditioning
Thunder are an interesting team. Don’t think they’ll win a championship, at least this not year, sorta like those D’Antoni Suns team. Best record in the league and they are small team and weirdly enough, we don’t match up with them (and we are much bigger than them). Shit bugs the hell outta me.
We won’t be bigger once Chet returns
Refs cheated. Still tho we just gotta get our young guys up to speed. We will see okc again in May
😂😂 we lost because Ja and Jaren. Jaren has to be a better rebounder he just to lazy in that department. Chuck was right about Ja is good but he got to get more people involved. He’s not a pure point guard or at lest he don’t play like one. Joe is wrong Ja not that best Grizzlies dude just be talking 😂😂. But Ja is the 3rd best player in this on this team when it come to player. Jaren and Bane I better all around players. They both are better scorers and defenders at this point in their careers . Ja should basically be magic on this team and average 10-12 assists a game but he tries to hard to score throughout the game. I think at times against big name players he tries to prove that he’s better but that’s not what we need. We need Ja to realize we don’t need that 25 scorers but a 10-12 assist scorer like Haliburton last year. We need Jaren to stop watching the ball go to the ground and attack the rebound why in the air. I don’t care if a teammate there attack the ball or a player will tip it. Also OKC is not better but the Grizzlies still have to gel this literally the first game with everyone. I think the start line up need to shake up with Vince needs to start. I can also see Bagley being a great fit. And can be a starter with Jaren on the floor.
I’m just glad we got better during the trade deadline. Now we are in prime position to win it all 🎉
You guys wanna win every single game smh.. LOOK AT THE STANDINGS we can’t play any better with a roster so close to the salary floor
Luka owns okc
Stop panicking we are still the BEST team in the west outside of OKC. And we beat Boston Houston and GSW by 50
Bro Kleinman is a genius. One day we will understand how amazing our GM is.. this ain’t about Ja or JJJ.. this is all Kleinman magic. None of these guys would be dominant without his vision and roster construction
Not calling John Collins/Jerami Grant/Miles Bridges once but chasing KD the entire trade deadline day is why we deserve NOTHING