@@johnnyromero3336 I've only played them at stores for a few mins. Not enough experience with it to really give much helpful insight. I did like it though. Killer mids!
I want to touch on point #2: “tightening the amp up.” In my case (using a 6505+), it’s not about tightening the gain so much, though that does play a part of gain staging as well. It’s a focusing of the low end. You can crank more bass while losing flub. If you’re doing fat chords, turn the boost off; however, when you’re playing fast chuggy parts, your options are to kill your bass by dialing it back, or keep it up and use a boost to tighten your low end. That said, it’s always up to the ear and play style of the player. I absolutely love boosting with an OD, and an EQ at the front end would absolutely do the same job (as Dime did in his SS Randall amps). It’s also up to the amp. Engl amps already have super laser focused low ends, so it’s not necessary in the same way as with a 6505+.
I have a 5150III 50 watt,and I have found that the only time I NEED a boost from my TS pedal,is low volume,bedroom playing….once you start getting some volume going,as the power section starts compressing a bit,I find I don’t need,or want a boost…..So my findings,as you mentioned,practice more,and play LOUD!!
Great video Gregg. For me it just comes down to personal taste and playing style. I love how a boost make the amp more reactive to my playing...and how it helps me sculpt the tone the way I like it.
Thanks buddy! And there's nothing wrong with that, but you also know it's a personal preference not some unwritten rule that you must boost like the these boosty boost chug boys!!
I agree with that, a boost helps to make the amp more reactive. You get more saturation and it can make harmonics pop out more. I always practice without it though and then when you do use it you get even more out of it. Like training with weights on your arms and legs.
I have a DSL100h and it tightens up really nice at very high volumes most people can't play. A boost comes in handy to improve the response and being able to play at bearable volumes. Likewise a boost is not the panacea to all of your needs or specifics, you may try: EQ, the most overlooked pedal ever to put the balls where you need them. A compressor, to compensate your... attack. Overdrive to boost your guitar signal and push your amp. Distortion to help if your amp is low/mid gain Even a noise gate to tame unavoidable fizz, hums and elecric nuisances from analog circuits and electronics. TOP PICK: Treble booster, you won't believe it until you have it. Make it fast as they're getting absurdely expensive despite the extreme simplicity of the circuit and large availability of components. Good DIY project to be honest and save $100 or more.
Really enjoy your videos! I own an Engl Fireball 25. AWESOME AMP! I agree that it doesn’t NEED a boost. I do use a boost at lower gain settings to push the higher frequencies. Keep the great content coming because SHREAD AIN’T DEAD!!
I agree with you with all these points that you made except for I think it’s depending on what kind of a sound you are targeting. When you mentioned about the Marshall JCM800, there’s a lot of people that play classic rock that would just plug-in a Gibson Les Paul straight in or even a Fender Stratocaster straight in and crank it and get nice tones. But if you’re looking for a heavier sounding distortion from your amplifier, you’ll be needing to boost it so *I think most of it just comes down to personal preference.* Just like the sauce on the steak. It’s not needed but it’s nice sometimes but you can always turn your game down when you boost. That’s what I do. Definitely a cool video and I like the points you made. Sweet playing too chuggy chuggy chug chug!!
It depends on the song... if it benefits the track in the full mix then either way will work!!! Figuring out which one sounds better- when- is a true art form!!
I like a boost into a mid gain amp to get a goosed up rhythm tone, then hit it with an OD/sd1 with slightly higher level/output for solos. The rhythm tone is thick and full with great cut and clarity, and the solo tone is smooth and liquid feeling.
Good video. I think it’s just a personal preference / playing style thing. Unless you’re doing fly gigs and not sure what amps you will have to use then boost/overdrive could be necessary to get a specific tone. I saw an interview with Paul Gilbert discussing his signature overdrive and he showed how he used two of them together for extra boost, I think it’s fair to say he’s a pretty tight player. It’s all about having fun with your gear, no right or wrong in my opinion. Also, not all boost / overdrives sound good on every amp either so finding the right overdrive for your amp can make a big difference. Thanks for the video !
I mainly play in std e and didn't really see the need for a boost, but like you said everyone is boost happy. What I like to do is use an od in front of a fuzz pedal to make my sound more full.
I like to boost the blue channel on my EVH 5153 50w for 80s metal tones, i like the little extra saturation it gives. I play the Red channel with no boosts at all. But i am playing at very low volumes with kids usually sleeping 😂😭. One thing ive noticed though is u can rely so heavily on ur boost that you forget what your amp actually sounds like. At the moment im having fun with the boost pedal by moving the gain away from zero n the vol away from max and checking out all the subtle tonal changes.
@@shredaintdead9323 another thing is im usually playing with my gain set around 10-11 o'clock for clarity so the boost helps make it sound abit more evil.
I didn’t think it was essential until I got a Marshall tube head. It’s sounds great but the good ol yellow Boss overdrive makes it sound to me like a Marshall should sound.
I boost my little DSL20h with a low $ Demon ts9 and run a mxr 10 band eq in effects loop and all is good with that tight, chunky sweetness that I crave.
Ok, so here's a dumb question cuz I don't know. I have an MXR 10 band that I've never used. Have the DSL20HR and the SD1. What are some good setting for the MXR.
I found that many times I don't really need a boost so much as a filter before the amp input that attenuates the guitar's low frequencies. A shelving EQ or high-pass filter that tames lower frequencies at say below 110Hz or even 82Hz had been sufficient to tighten up those Mesa rectifiers w/out having to engage a TS that does tighten up the low end but otherwise produces other tonal characteristics I'm not particularly interested in..
Regarding the Mesa Rectifiers, the Badlander is one amp that really does not need a boost I think. That amp really addressed the whole flubby bottom end problem with the rectifiers. I’ve got a whole bunch of videos with the Badlander where I don’t use a boost and it is really tight and aggressive. I really only use a boost if I want more saturation for soloing or something, but the Badlander has enough gain and compression that it’s not necessarily needed. And I pretty much always practice with just the guitar straight into the amp so that I focus on making my playing tighter and more precise. Really good players can plug straight into an amp and make it sound amazing. Mark Morton from Lamb of God posted some videos of his Badlander on Twitter and he played it without any boost at all and it sounded incredible. Testament even used a Mesa Rectifier without any boost on The Gathering album and it sounds awesome.
I have been in a band playing drums since 1998 with the same guys they both still play their rectifiers one of them using mid output T buckers the other one using a Gibson 500t One plays a Mesa cab one plays a Marshall No boost store and it just sounds punishing. Could it be a little tighter probably but that’s not the point they learn how to play to what they had and it sounds great
I thought the Marshall sounded much better with a boost. The Engl sounded savage either way. I agree that the boost isn't necessary for either, but the Marshall benefits the most from it in your demo.
I never use an overdrive and always use the natural distortion from my Mesa Boogie Mark IV. However, when I think back there are a few moments where I can envision on overdrive adding to the fullness of the tone. Gives me something to consider with future original songs. Thanks for the info! 👍
For a mesa mk 4 you not gonna need any of that cause the tone stack is before the préamp so you have already your bass mid and treble to shape your disto ...
Great video! Ive been thinking about stacking two Big Muffs in the front of my amp with a third Big Muff through the effects loop. But I do like how the not boosted sound better through the amps. Wait, you had a flubby low end for eight years? Then you tightened it up some how?
I think an od can work with any amp BUT with the caveat that you don’t need to use is to dial in stupid levels of gain/compression. The HPF effect from most boosts/ODs will create headroom in front of the amp and change how it breaks up. If you know how to properly gain stage a guitar tone you can have a boost/od in almost any situation, even if the end result is medium gain. The problem is that most guitar players can’t dial a tone to save their life but think they can
Yes ...if you like a boosted tone, no if you dont, also its not just gain its about compression and response Your rig is not mine, I need a boost...why? because I like it, and I prefer it than without
Yeah I agree and I covered those aspects, but again right most amps have that and don't actually NEED more. It's a rug by rig case. Not a universal law like these guys make it out to be
I go back and forth on the subject of boosts all the time. I think there's certainly a place for them depending on the application. I have a high gain amp that sounds great without a boost but I throw one on for leads sometimes to get a clean boost in volume and saturation.
@@shredaintdead9323 Absolutely.. I think a lot of players lose sight of this when they step into a studio setting and the engineer tells them to play clean or playing with others in a mix.. those boosts can cause loss in dynamics and all you have is just a wall of noise that doesn't cut.
Well is a question of personal taste , Personally i used overdrive cause for me it make any amp sound better , i personally like 800 hz boost in front of medium gain amp like a marshall 800 master volume , for me hi gain amp dont have a good kick it's always to much compress ...
Great video, I recently have been not using a boost and eased off my heavy palm muting and backed off using treble to compensate for that. The tone is better, not having issue with ISP noise suppression pedal not gating to my liking. I think younger players are confusing compression and saturation to the grind you need for heavy music
Boost is not absolutely needed. I actually use a graphic eq. We used them in the 80s, but that was because we didn't have really really high gain amps like we do today. I used to play a fender twin ( very loud amp) with an original rat pedal for distortion until I bought a ada mp1 preamp. Mesa needs it because it's too farty. Otherwise I agree man. Your right on the money brother. I really think I need an engle amp. Just for shits and giggles. Otherwise at the tender age of 60 I'm going to probably get an axeFx because it's souvh easier and so good with effects, etc. Great videos man! Keep rocking. 🤘❤️🤘
@@shredaintdead9323 I bet I would. I played a Marshall DSL 40 and it was good, but I'm bored with that tone and want something a little different. The Engle seems cool. I used to also play a VHT amp back in the 90s that was killer. Would like to try a Bigger too. Rock on brother! 🤘❤️🤘❤️🤘❤️🤘
No I've always hated any kind of signal cut into my amp, for metal. I love a cranked amp. Loud. Boosts just unwanted background noise, hum and awful sounding feedback. The small gain in volume is not worth it to me. Nor the tonal aspect. My 1988 150w Marshall Heads are absolutely all I need for metal. Guitar- splitter to amps. That's it. That's how I've always liked it. You can't tell me it doesn't give my amps a unwanted background hum, and creates terrible sounding feedback and I can't turn up my amps.
I use a charvel so cal with dimarzio 36th, low output with my dsl20cr and can do all the 80 metal easily, I'm a lazy old dog and don't use pedals live. Don't like modern metal but with the tone shift can have real close, instead a over I use the volume pot a lot to have different sounds. The classic channel with a over or a boost is wonderful.
The only time I use a Ts is to get that michael schenker cocked wah sound. But gain at zero. Always used the over to colour the sound. And low output pickups, so dinamic.
o'maigawd even the marshall sounds fine without a boost..nowai! mehmehemhemhmeh. Sounded good without the boost. The Fireball was just pure fire and then fire with a gas tanker crashed on it when boosted.
I think the key part of this right now is that you said in my metal band don’t you know the most of these dudes aren’t in bands LOL Internet happy fake drum computer programming musicians bedroom Rockstars
If you run active pickups you shouldn't need a boost for a high gain amp. Emg 81 into a 6505+ is tight enough on its own. Same with Fishman fluence pickups. For my orange cr120 I run it scooped and put a rat type pedal into it.
No boost needed just a mxr 10 band in the effects loop. The mxr has a gain slider that acts a boost .. you just need a dsl20hr and a engl fireball 25 a prs mt15 and a invective mh oh and Gregg's fingers 🤘🤘🤘🤘
As a card carrying member of the Boosty Boost Bois I’m calling for an immediate apology and retraction. 😂😂😂 Good video. Can’t wait to see all the hurt feelings in the comments. 🤘🏻
I disagree with not needing a boost. Maybe if you're playing just open e galloped palm mutes at lower tempos you can get away with it. But when you're playing high tempos with lots of notes (think a tech death style music) and using 7 and 8 strings, you need that boost to get the clarity out of your notes at any kind of speed. Without the boost, the notes just blend in and there is no definition. You also are forgetting about getting those nasty as fuck transient sounds that you can't get without a boost pedal. And yes, "TECHNICALLY" you can play guitar without a boost, but if it's a detriment to your sound, why the fuck would you?
Well your case is different, you have to use a boost so your 7 and 8 strings don't get farty/muddy. Needs clarity that the boost adds. I'm just talking generally here though. It's become a cool guy trendy thing that people are convincing themselves is an always on must.
I think some kind of EQ pedal in front of the amp would do the same thing. Basically you just want a high pass filter to make a 7 or 8 string less muddy by cutting out the bass. But something like a Mesa Boogie Mark II/III/IV does the same thing already. The tone stack controls are before the preamp distortion, doing the same thing as an EQ pedal in front of the amp, and then the graphic EQ is where you actually set the amp’s overall EQ. I think with those amps you can actually get away without using a boost with a 7 string. Just listen to early Dream Theater albums where Petrucci used a Mark IIC+ with a 7 string and without a boost.
Play better (or actual) music, and you don't have to worry about chuggy, chuggy, boosty, boosts. Also, if your putting A-1 sauce non the steak, your cooking the steak wrong.
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Had me rolling @ " Chuggy Chuggy Boost Boy" Great Video Gregg!
Thanks buddy!!!
@@shredaintdead9323 I just picked up a Peavey 6534+ I have been on the hunt for this for awhile now. Mint one owner to. Any experience with this amp?
@@johnnyromero3336 I've only played them at stores for a few mins. Not enough experience with it to really give much helpful insight. I did like it though. Killer mids!
@@shredaintdead9323 Yes! Killer Mids is right! fun Amp to play.
I want to touch on point #2: “tightening the amp up.” In my case (using a 6505+), it’s not about tightening the gain so much, though that does play a part of gain staging as well. It’s a focusing of the low end. You can crank more bass while losing flub. If you’re doing fat chords, turn the boost off; however, when you’re playing fast chuggy parts, your options are to kill your bass by dialing it back, or keep it up and use a boost to tighten your low end.
That said, it’s always up to the ear and play style of the player. I absolutely love boosting with an OD, and an EQ at the front end would absolutely do the same job (as Dime did in his SS Randall amps). It’s also up to the amp. Engl amps already have super laser focused low ends, so it’s not necessary in the same way as with a 6505+.
" chuggy boost boy " god damnit that's why I come here 🤣🤘
Haha you're welcome!
I have a 5150III 50 watt,and I have found that the only time I NEED a boost from my TS pedal,is low volume,bedroom playing….once you start getting some volume going,as the power section starts compressing a bit,I find I don’t need,or want a boost…..So my findings,as you mentioned,practice more,and play LOUD!!
Exactly 💯
Great video Gregg. For me it just comes down to personal taste and playing style. I love how a boost make the amp more reactive to my playing...and how it helps me sculpt the tone the way I like it.
Thanks buddy! And there's nothing wrong with that, but you also know it's a personal preference not some unwritten rule that you must boost like the these boosty boost chug boys!!
@@shredaintdead9323 haha boost boost chug boys
I agree with that, a boost helps to make the amp more reactive. You get more saturation and it can make harmonics pop out more. I always practice without it though and then when you do use it you get even more out of it. Like training with weights on your arms and legs.
I have a DSL100h and it tightens up really nice at very high volumes most people can't play. A boost comes in handy to improve the response and being able to play at bearable volumes.
Likewise a boost is not the panacea to all of your needs or specifics, you may try:
EQ, the most overlooked pedal ever to put the balls where you need them.
A compressor, to compensate your... attack.
Overdrive to boost your guitar signal and push your amp.
Distortion to help if your amp is low/mid gain
Even a noise gate to tame unavoidable fizz, hums and elecric nuisances from analog circuits and electronics.
TOP PICK:
Treble booster, you won't believe it until you have it. Make it fast as they're getting absurdely expensive despite the extreme simplicity of the circuit and large availability of components. Good DIY project to be honest and save $100 or more.
I boost my 6505+ with a dybuuk because it adds mids the peavey lacks. So don't tell me I don't need a boost YER NOT MY REAL DAD!!
Mehmehmehmehmeh!!!!!!
🤣
That Amp is all mids Even with the mids practically off it still has mids
I said more MIDS
Oh man, I laughed so hard, but you are totaly right! I don't use any boost at all on high gain amps (anymore). Those amp are so good these days.
Thanks! Glad you liked the vid and see my point!
Really enjoy your videos! I own an Engl Fireball 25. AWESOME AMP! I agree that it doesn’t NEED a boost.
I do use a boost at lower gain settings to push the higher frequencies.
Keep the great content coming because SHREAD AIN’T DEAD!!
Thanks dude! Really appreciate it!!!
I agree with you with all these points that you made except for I think it’s depending on what kind of a sound you are targeting. When you mentioned about the Marshall JCM800, there’s a lot of people that play classic rock that would just plug-in a Gibson Les Paul straight in or even a Fender Stratocaster straight in and crank it and get nice tones. But if you’re looking for a heavier sounding distortion from your amplifier, you’ll be needing to boost it so *I think most of it just comes down to personal preference.* Just like the sauce on the steak. It’s not needed but it’s nice sometimes but you can always turn your game down when you boost. That’s what I do. Definitely a cool video and I like the points you made. Sweet playing too chuggy chuggy chug chug!!
Such good sauce when used sparingly!
@@shredaintdead9323 I definitely agree man! Some people just over do it and lose their tone.
@@shredaintdead9323 1000 views on a day is pretty damn good man!
It depends on the song... if it benefits the track in the full mix then either way will work!!! Figuring out which one sounds better- when- is a true art form!!
I like a boost into a mid gain amp to get a goosed up rhythm tone, then hit it with an OD/sd1 with slightly higher level/output for solos. The rhythm tone is thick and full with great cut and clarity, and the solo tone is smooth and liquid feeling.
Same!
Good video. I think it’s just a personal preference / playing style thing. Unless you’re doing fly gigs and not sure what amps you will have to use then boost/overdrive could be necessary to get a specific tone. I saw an interview with Paul Gilbert discussing his signature overdrive and he showed how he used two of them together for extra boost, I think it’s fair to say he’s a pretty tight player. It’s all about having fun with your gear, no right or wrong in my opinion. Also, not all boost / overdrives sound good on every amp either so finding the right overdrive for your amp can make a big difference. Thanks for the video !
Totally agree!!!
I mainly play in std e and didn't really see the need for a boost, but like you said everyone is boost happy. What I like to do is use an od in front of a fuzz pedal to make my sound more full.
Same and that makes way more sense then boosting just to boost
I like to boost the blue channel on my EVH 5153 50w for 80s metal tones, i like the little extra saturation it gives. I play the Red channel with no boosts at all. But i am playing at very low volumes with kids usually sleeping 😂😭.
One thing ive noticed though is u can rely so heavily on ur boost that you forget what your amp actually sounds like.
At the moment im having fun with the boost pedal by moving the gain away from zero n the vol away from max and checking out all the subtle tonal changes.
Totally agree. These guys rely so much on the sound and feel of the boost instead of the amp. Total crutch.
@@shredaintdead9323 another thing is im usually playing with my gain set around 10-11 o'clock for clarity so the boost helps make it sound abit more evil.
@@AussieTerry same!!
I didn’t think it was essential until I got a Marshall tube head. It’s sounds great but the good ol yellow Boss overdrive makes it sound to me like a Marshall should sound.
Totally agree, but most marshalls aren't really tight modern high gain amps.
You are so f$&-ing real bro. Thank you. Keep it up
Thanks and will do!
I boost my little DSL20h with a low $ Demon ts9 and run a mxr 10 band eq in effects loop and all is good with that tight, chunky sweetness that I crave.
And see a dsl20 is a mid gain amp that's not tight enough and actually needs it. I love mine with an sd1 and mxr 10 band in the loop too
Ok, so here's a dumb question cuz I don't know.
I have an MXR 10 band that I've never used.
Have the DSL20HR and the SD1.
What are some good setting for the MXR.
@@joer2723 do the opposite of the scooped v everyone does with the mids. Make yours look this this ^
@Shred Ain't Dead run that straight thru the fx all the time?
@@joer2723 yep!
Dude, I have the same RTL banner in my jam room! See you on Tone Wars.
Right on dude! See you there 👍
I found that many times I don't really need a boost so much as a filter before the amp input that attenuates the guitar's low frequencies. A shelving EQ or high-pass filter that tames lower frequencies at say below 110Hz or even 82Hz had been sufficient to tighten up those Mesa rectifiers w/out having to engage a TS that does tighten up the low end but otherwise produces other tonal characteristics I'm not particularly interested in..
Exactly. Other pedals can benefit your amp just as much if not more then just using an overdrive
Regarding the Mesa Rectifiers, the Badlander is one amp that really does not need a boost I think. That amp really addressed the whole flubby bottom end problem with the rectifiers. I’ve got a whole bunch of videos with the Badlander where I don’t use a boost and it is really tight and aggressive. I really only use a boost if I want more saturation for soloing or something, but the Badlander has enough gain and compression that it’s not necessarily needed.
And I pretty much always practice with just the guitar straight into the amp so that I focus on making my playing tighter and more precise. Really good players can plug straight into an amp and make it sound amazing. Mark Morton from Lamb of God posted some videos of his Badlander on Twitter and he played it without any boost at all and it sounded incredible.
Testament even used a Mesa Rectifier without any boost on The Gathering album and it sounds awesome.
True the badlander doesn't, and it only took mesa 30 years to finally fix that issue with the badlander haha.
@@shredaintdead9323 yeah that amp should have been released a long time ago. At least they did it eventually lol
I have been in a band playing drums since 1998 with the same guys they both still play their rectifiers one of them using mid output T buckers the other one using a Gibson 500t One plays a Mesa cab one plays a Marshall No boost store and it just sounds punishing. Could it be a little tighter probably but that’s not the point they learn how to play to what they had and it sounds great
Wait so actual musicians in bands who understand gear? Not a know nothing basement player who joins groups to argue? How strange!!!
@@shredaintdead9323 I know isn’t that the strangest thing
To gain or gain more ,to boost or to not boost...all up to the players ear. Is it needed maybe!!
Boosts are in the ear of the beholder!!!
Lol chuggy chuggy boost boy. Love your videos keep them coming please!
Haha thanks! will do!!
I thought the Marshall sounded much better with a boost. The Engl sounded savage either way. I agree that the boost isn't necessary for either, but the Marshall benefits the most from it in your demo.
Totally agree 👍
I never use an overdrive and always use the natural distortion from my Mesa Boogie Mark IV. However, when I think back there are a few moments where I can envision on overdrive adding to the fullness of the tone. Gives me something to consider with future original songs. Thanks for the info! 👍
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it!
For a mesa mk 4 you not gonna need any of that cause the tone stack is before the préamp so you have already your bass mid and treble to shape your disto ...
Great video! Ive been thinking about stacking two Big Muffs in the front of my amp with a third Big Muff through the effects loop. But I do like how the not boosted sound better through the amps.
Wait, you had a flubby low end for eight years? Then you tightened it up some how?
My guitars all have built in boosters. I call them Volume Knob, Tone Knob and Pickup Selector.
🤣
I think an od can work with any amp BUT with the caveat that you don’t need to use is to dial in stupid levels of gain/compression. The HPF effect from most boosts/ODs will create headroom in front of the amp and change how it breaks up. If you know how to properly gain stage a guitar tone you can have a boost/od in almost any situation, even if the end result is medium gain. The problem is that most guitar players can’t dial a tone to save their life but think they can
Totally agree haha. Lots of guys with no idea how to dial In a good tone at all
Yes ...if you like a boosted tone, no if you dont, also its not just gain its about compression and response
Your rig is not mine, I need a boost...why? because I like it, and I prefer it than without
Yeah I agree and I covered those aspects, but again right most amps have that and don't actually NEED more. It's a rug by rig case. Not a universal law like these guys make it out to be
I go back and forth on the subject of boosts all the time. I think there's certainly a place for them depending on the application. I have a high gain amp that sounds great without a boost but I throw one on for leads sometimes to get a clean boost in volume and saturation.
When used sparingly and in the right applications then it's fine, but it's definitely not a on 24/7 thing
@@shredaintdead9323 Absolutely.. I think a lot of players lose sight of this when they step into a studio setting and the engineer tells them to play clean or playing with others in a mix.. those boosts can cause loss in dynamics and all you have is just a wall of noise that doesn't cut.
@@jonathanmoran3512 absolutely
BOOM!! The internet is going to explode!!
Counting on it! Haha
It’s about time
Thats what i was thinking hes gonna catch some hate for this one hahaha 😂
@@thedudeofshaving1749 oh I know I will, but someone had to call this out!
Well is a question of personal taste , Personally i used overdrive cause for me it make any amp sound better , i personally like 800 hz boost in front of medium gain amp like a marshall 800 master volume , for me hi gain amp dont have a good kick it's always to much compress ...
Great video, I recently have been not using a boost and eased off my heavy palm muting and backed off using treble to compensate for that. The tone is better, not having issue with ISP noise suppression pedal not gating to my liking. I think younger players are confusing compression and saturation to the grind you need for heavy music
Thanks! And I totally agree 👍
Boost is not absolutely needed. I actually use a graphic eq.
We used them in the 80s, but that was because we didn't have really really high gain amps like we do today. I used to play a fender twin ( very loud amp) with an original rat pedal for distortion until I bought a ada mp1 preamp.
Mesa needs it because it's too farty. Otherwise I agree man. Your right on the money brother.
I really think I need an engle amp. Just for shits and giggles. Otherwise at the tender age of 60 I'm going to probably get an axeFx because it's souvh easier and so good with effects, etc.
Great videos man! Keep rocking. 🤘❤️🤘
Thanks dude! You'd love an engl. Fantastic amps!
@@shredaintdead9323 I bet I would. I played a Marshall DSL 40 and it was good, but I'm bored with that tone and want something a little different. The Engle seems cool. I used to also play a VHT amp back in the 90s that was killer.
Would like to try a Bigger too. Rock on brother! 🤘❤️🤘❤️🤘❤️🤘
Not gonna lie, love my Naga Viper through the E530.
Hell yeah! Boost or not to boost ❤️😍🥰🎵🎶🎸 That is the question! Cool video!
Thanks! Appreciate it!
@@shredaintdead9323 Just subbed too man!
Turn the gain down on amp and boost it is the way to go
Absolutely agree 👍
I saw the thumbnail and thought
"Oh not what happened to Ben Eller"
Yeah I know he looks like me. I don't look like him. But he looks like me...
The best boost for me is Gentleman Jack in my coke & that is all the gain I need going through my amps! I'm old school... Please drink responsibly😀
Haha love it!!!
You trashed chugbois so much I was really hoping for a lethal riff to put them in their place but oh well.
I’m changing my channel name to “Chuggy Chuggy Boosty Boi”. I’m choosing to embrace my unquenchable thirst for unnecessary boosting.
Awesome!! Glad I could help!!!
No I've always hated any kind of signal cut into my amp, for metal. I love a cranked amp. Loud. Boosts just unwanted background noise, hum and awful sounding feedback. The small gain in volume is not worth it to me. Nor the tonal aspect. My 1988 150w Marshall Heads are absolutely all I need for metal. Guitar- splitter to amps. That's it. That's how I've always liked it. You can't tell me it doesn't give my amps a unwanted background hum, and creates terrible sounding feedback and I can't turn up my amps.
I use a charvel so cal with dimarzio 36th, low output with my dsl20cr and can do all the 80 metal easily, I'm a lazy old dog and don't use pedals live. Don't like modern metal but with the tone shift can have real close, instead a over I use the volume pot a lot to have different sounds. The classic channel with a over or a boost is wonderful.
You sir know tone and how to use gear! boosty boost chug boys don't though
The only time I use a Ts is to get that michael schenker cocked wah sound. But gain at zero. Always used the over to colour the sound. And low output pickups, so dinamic.
Chords from "Damage Inc."? 🤔
If anything they were closer to disposable heroes, but still not exactly the same
@@shredaintdead9323 you're right (:
o'maigawd even the marshall sounds fine without a boost..nowai! mehmehemhemhmeh.
Sounded good without the boost. The Fireball was just pure fire and then fire with a gas tanker crashed on it when boosted.
Fire and the fury! 🔥🌬
Someone had to bring them to this fight!
Chuggy Boost Boi: "NRRGGHHHH!"
Hahaha
I think the key part of this right now is that you said in my metal band don’t you know the most of these dudes aren’t in bands LOL Internet happy fake drum computer programming musicians bedroom Rockstars
So true haha
@@shredaintdead9323 I feel attacked. 😂
@@chrismartin6418 sorry not sorry?
If you run active pickups you shouldn't need a boost for a high gain amp. Emg 81 into a 6505+ is tight enough on its own. Same with Fishman fluence pickups. For my orange cr120 I run it scooped and put a rat type pedal into it.
Boosted sounds way better man ill have my steak with A1 EXTRA SAUCE plz.
All the A1!!!!
If you need sauce for a steak then send it back.
@@wheresallthezombies hahaha
Do they need a boost? No.
Is it fun? Oh hell yeah!
No boost needed just a mxr 10 band in the effects loop.
The mxr has a gain slider that acts a boost .. you just need a dsl20hr and a engl fireball 25 a prs mt15 and a invective mh oh and Gregg's fingers 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Haha indeed!!!
Memhememehem actually practice playing the guitar right but Gregg that sounds to hard 😂
Hahaha exactly 💯
As a card carrying member of the Boosty Boost Bois I’m calling for an immediate apology and retraction. 😂😂😂 Good video. Can’t wait to see all the hurt feelings in the comments. 🤘🏻
Haha ok how's this? Sorry not sorry?
@@shredaintdead9323 😂
I don't want a boost I want my ENGL Fireball 25 :D But may take a boost too ! Waiting on new orders so come on everyone get one lol.
It's killer!!!
@@shredaintdead9323 Really liked The way that Marshall sounded too!
@@SuperCMO79 it's my favorite amp!
Marshall DSL20HR...yes needs boost.
Anything with more gain than that...nope.
EXACTLY 💯
I disagree with not needing a boost. Maybe if you're playing just open e galloped palm mutes at lower tempos you can get away with it. But when you're playing high tempos with lots of notes (think a tech death style music) and using 7 and 8 strings, you need that boost to get the clarity out of your notes at any kind of speed. Without the boost, the notes just blend in and there is no definition. You also are forgetting about getting those nasty as fuck transient sounds that you can't get without a boost pedal.
And yes, "TECHNICALLY" you can play guitar without a boost, but if it's a detriment to your sound, why the fuck would you?
Well your case is different, you have to use a boost so your 7 and 8 strings don't get farty/muddy. Needs clarity that the boost adds. I'm just talking generally here though. It's become a cool guy trendy thing that people are convincing themselves is an always on must.
I think some kind of EQ pedal in front of the amp would do the same thing. Basically you just want a high pass filter to make a 7 or 8 string less muddy by cutting out the bass.
But something like a Mesa Boogie Mark II/III/IV does the same thing already. The tone stack controls are before the preamp distortion, doing the same thing as an EQ pedal in front of the amp, and then the graphic EQ is where you actually set the amp’s overall EQ. I think with those amps you can actually get away without using a boost with a 7 string. Just listen to early Dream Theater albums where Petrucci used a Mark IIC+ with a 7 string and without a boost.
@@jb_50w78 totally agree dude
Most high gain amps don’t need a boost. Learn how to EQ your amp.
Yep!
Play better (or actual) music, and you don't have to worry about chuggy, chuggy, boosty, boosts. Also, if your putting A-1 sauce non the steak, your cooking the steak wrong.
Hahaha agreed 👍
Hahahahahaha... Keyboardist
Funny cuz it's true haha