Chicago sold the Chicago Skyway for $1.8 billion

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  • Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
  • This episode is the unlikely story of a public toll road sold to private interests for $1.8 billion dollars, the story of the Chicago Skyway.
    Resources on this topic:
    trrjournalonline.trb.org/doi/p...
    www.chicagoroads.com/roads/chi...
    www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-blogs...
    www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/...
    ibtta.org/sites/default/files/...
    Dashcam video provided by Paul Donovan: / paulndonovan
    Other videos courtesy of Archive.org's Moving Image Archive
    Photo Sources:
    - Great photographers from Flickr: Grant, Ian Friemuth, Ken Lund, Marc Buehler, Matt Buck, phvolmer, vxla
    - Wikimedia Commons
    - Chicago Tribune
    - University of Illinois, Chicago

Комментарии • 859

  • @joeconkle8826
    @joeconkle8826 4 года назад +445

    Just stay on 94. The tollway usually saves you 5 minutes at the most and costs 13 dollars

    • @a.k8069
      @a.k8069 4 года назад +27

      Flat out wrong. It's an extra hour in and out if you're coming from the east (why would you get on the skybridge if you weren't? ). Literally google any city on the lake and select both routes and see what it gives you.

    • @noonehere4332
      @noonehere4332 3 года назад +27

      Take 294 and completely bypass chicago if you can.

    • @AllanRadko
      @AllanRadko 3 года назад +6

      ​@@a.k8069 bullshit ti saves you 8 miles and by normal traffic around 10 minutes. Maybe the 94 is more named but google maps is usually pretty accurate

    • @OmaBike
      @OmaBike 3 года назад +4

      It's $13 now? I used to skip it when I was poor, but I preferred it if I had the extra $2. :)

    • @tome8373
      @tome8373 3 года назад +3

      That’s the same as the Chesapeake bay bridge tunnel that saves you three or four hours and a hundred miles.

  • @williamerazo1685
    @williamerazo1685 5 лет назад +540

    So Indiana complaining about a Chicago road monies going to Chicago projects. Ok that makes no sense

    • @davidpaul2797
      @davidpaul2797 5 лет назад +107

      Yup. You have accurately described Indiana.

    • @garyricky8744
      @garyricky8744 5 лет назад +5

      Indiana drivers using the skyway not the state PLEASE listen again !

    • @Dinoskater8237
      @Dinoskater8237 5 лет назад +37

      Gary ricky yeah we understand that

    • @dab0331
      @dab0331 4 года назад +4

      Your an idiot.
      Chicago's crooked politicians pocket most of the money for social programs; not to mention no one wants to pay for bums.
      Secondly that's the only direct route to get to work on time in Chicago if you live in Indiana. You don't want to pay mor than what's needed.

    • @AntonioRivera28
      @AntonioRivera28 4 года назад +1

      Indiana tolls only pay for road maintenance... not to fund other projects

  • @erichknodel4334
    @erichknodel4334 4 года назад +186

    The Chicago Skyway is the WORST stretch of Highway in the city and that’s saying a lot!!
    Imagine paying $6 to drive on a highway filled with the worst potholes you’ve ever seen.
    God help you if you’re towing a trailer.

    • @TomZ23
      @TomZ23 4 года назад +22

      That may have been true years ago, but the road is in pretty good condition now.

    • @0fficialdregs
      @0fficialdregs 3 года назад +4

      @@TomZ23 agreed

    • @docrussojr
      @docrussojr 3 года назад +4

      You mean $12

    • @johnschmidt7588
      @johnschmidt7588 3 года назад +5

      The skyway is fucking awesome it’s like a roller coaster.

    • @yousefnoori
      @yousefnoori 2 года назад

      @@johnschmidt7588 I'm really excited to go on it now. Is it worth driving all the way to from Rogers Park?

  • @PFAlt
    @PFAlt 6 лет назад +205

    Well, demolishing buildings in the hearts of cities, segregating them, for some highways, is pretty much the opposite of trying to solve traffic. Building more roads never solves any urban planning issue.

    • @lEGOBOT2565
      @lEGOBOT2565 5 лет назад +2

      the fact that the traffic doesn't die down show that the expansion was needed

    • @langhamp8912
      @langhamp8912 4 года назад +34

      @@lEGOBOT2565 He's talking about induced demand, that is, when you make something more appealing then more people use it. In every case of building more roads to reduce traffic congestion fails. Building more roads with more lanes just results in more traffic, not more throughput.

    • @lEGOBOT2565
      @lEGOBOT2565 4 года назад +1

      @@langhamp8912 there are roads abd highways here in Indiana that are than in Chicago abd yet have less traffic

    • @marcoferrao
      @marcoferrao 2 года назад

      @@lEGOBOT2565 It´s actually the opposite, google it.

    • @lEGOBOT2565
      @lEGOBOT2565 2 года назад

      @@marcoferrao or you could provide evidence to the claim

  • @jamescox7007
    @jamescox7007 5 лет назад +197

    The Ontario P.C Conserative Government sold the 407 in the 90's. The 407 toll is now the most expensive toll on the world. Sold to an out of country company. Your debt will never be erased, even in your death. 100 years after you die your debt will accumulate interest. Selling public infrastructure should be illegal.

    • @EPK123
      @EPK123 3 года назад +6

      it depends of the context and what infrastructure are we talking about . For example here in south america corruption is the daily bread, and correct privatizations are beneficial in many cases .

    • @mariusmatei2946
      @mariusmatei2946 3 года назад +8

      @@EPK123 "correct privatizations"?? "beneficial" to whom?!?

    • @senns2589
      @senns2589 3 года назад

      the NDP sold a portion of the 407 too as well

    • @frevazz3364
      @frevazz3364 3 года назад +13

      @@EPK123 there is no such thing as correct privatization. It's short gain and long term disaster for the public. They only benefitiaries are the handful of people receiving the revenues, usually private equity.

    • @lozoft9
      @lozoft9 3 года назад +5

      Honestly, I'm glad the city of Chicago sold the skyway to investment bankers. Anything to see suburbanites pay for mooching off of cities. That's essentially why Indiana built a highway there, so that they'd get some tax revenue from Chicagoans moving to the Indiana burbs.

  • @freddystreamz9122
    @freddystreamz9122 4 года назад +67

    As a Chicagoan I don't use the skyway period. I made a mistake once GPS sent me on it and I had to pay $5.30

    • @dylannoya8157
      @dylannoya8157 4 года назад +2

      yeah, i take the dan ryan everytime and take the long way around.

    • @angadsingh5382
      @angadsingh5382 4 года назад +4

      fuckkk that

    • @drtee51
      @drtee51 4 года назад +2

      I do too. I-80 to the Dan Ryan. I'm from Wisconsin, where we don't have to pay to drive on our roads. And I'm damned if I'll pay 5 bucks to cross some damned Calumet Drainage Ditch.

  • @THEFIRE360
    @THEFIRE360 6 лет назад +1081

    If they didn't like paying the toll blame their own state of Indiana for forcing Chicago to build it in the first place 😂

    • @djmackay2011
      @djmackay2011 6 лет назад +176

      Also, if they are so concerned about not having money go to their state, maybe they should move into the state they work in. They are using Chicago infestructure.

    • @MustachioFurioso9134
      @MustachioFurioso9134 6 лет назад +97

      Honestly sounds like the average Hoosier...taking more money than they put back into the system, complaining without thinking of long term impact...

    • @gamertron0993
      @gamertron0993 6 лет назад +62

      Jesse Huber Indiana is sucking Illinois economy dry and we're just letting em too. I think we need to show tough love to Indiana because if we keep satisfying their demands while they leech off our economy, Illinois will be the new armpit of the midwest. Indiana is a fucking boring ass shithole. Why do you think they bloodsuck from our economy so much?

    • @jaredlangley6924
      @jaredlangley6924 6 лет назад +17

      Yeah and your shitty corrupt State is so much better.

    • @DreamtonicsZH
      @DreamtonicsZH 6 лет назад +9

      David MacKay well its fair. Illinois makes indiana make the indiana dunes (A place where people lived but were forced to move out), they make them build the skyway.

  • @charlescurtis6321
    @charlescurtis6321 5 лет назад +60

    At least in Sim City you can press "demolish" and rebuild when you make a mistake.

    • @berndlauert8179
      @berndlauert8179 3 года назад +2

      well in sim city demolishing roads is pretty expensive as well

  • @casimiriii5941
    @casimiriii5941 5 лет назад +78

    @7:29 well those same indiana drivers should have thouɡht about that before double crossinɡ Chicaɡo when buildinɡ their hiɡhway. They caused the problem and now they are payinɡ for it.

    • @gmarefan
      @gmarefan 4 года назад +1

      Those drivers double crossed Chicago?

    • @Patrick-sz7uk
      @Patrick-sz7uk 3 года назад

      those aren’t the same indiana drivers....

  • @CAAnmoldeepsingh
    @CAAnmoldeepsingh 6 лет назад +71

    Channels like this are the reason that i love Internet.
    Enjoyed the story of this skyway. I like to learn about different cities, their history, planning, architecture, adopting modern infrastructure, this video was just perfect.
    Sub from India.

  • @tylerkochman1007
    @tylerkochman1007 6 лет назад +20

    I always love telling the fun fact that it it is technically not a toll road, as was mentioned in the video. It is a toll bridge with a several-mile long approach road. The city's charter allowed the city government to build toll bridges, but did not permit it to build toll roads. So they built a "toll bridge" instead.

  • @andrepoiy1199
    @andrepoiy1199 6 лет назад +119

    The whole highway 407 in Toronto was privatized in late 1990s to cut taxes... It was intended to be a bypass of the very-congested 401, but now it is considered a luxury

    • @henrycheng8094
      @henrycheng8094 6 лет назад +11

      andrepøiy111999 That's actually the first thing I thought about when I saw this video

    • @ByzantineCalvinist
      @ByzantineCalvinist 6 лет назад +23

      We live in the Golden Horseshoe and NEVER take the 407. Too expensive.

    • @thefranchize34
      @thefranchize34 6 лет назад +10

      Henry Cheng
      Same when I saw this I was like 407, Mike Harris!

    • @anujtaxali
      @anujtaxali 6 лет назад +5

      andrepøiy111999 damn Mike Harris

    • @CharlieND
      @CharlieND 6 лет назад +6

      The 407 doesn't even go through Toronto.

  • @GlitterFistsFish
    @GlitterFistsFish 4 года назад +29

    I've lived in the Chicagoland area for 39 years and have never rode on the Skyway.

  • @chrisw443
    @chrisw443 6 лет назад +15

    As someone who lives in indiana we do every fucking thing imaginable to avoid that god damn bridge, its expensive, backed up, and a pain in my ass. 80/94 is the way to go even if its slow. Five dollars is horseshit!

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 6 лет назад +4

      chrisw443 Come to NYC where you pay $15 to cross the George Washington Bridge!

    • @earthandwind820
      @earthandwind820 6 лет назад

      Adam Smith That's the bridge that crosses over to Jersey, right? Crazy!!!

    • @andretsang7337
      @andretsang7337 6 лет назад +1

      Backed up? So there's too much traffic? You're basically saying "it's too crowded, nobody uses it"

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C 6 лет назад +1

      80/94 should become a tollway too. Maybe even U.S. 30.

    • @blackopscw7913
      @blackopscw7913 2 года назад

      @@earthandwind820 $20 over the Verrazano Narrows Bridge from Staten Island to Brooklyn!

  • @GlobalGaming101
    @GlobalGaming101 6 лет назад +523

    As someone from Arizona, the concept of paying upfront to use a road sounds so foreign!

    • @leroyrockwell4837
      @leroyrockwell4837 6 лет назад +49

      ikr I live here in new mexico and I have never seen a toll road in the west.

    • @KasaiLifeTV
      @KasaiLifeTV 6 лет назад +29

      I only see them in Orange county

    • @thatdude123
      @thatdude123 6 лет назад +1

      GlobalGaming101 Not from Arizona but am living here

    • @quintong6725
      @quintong6725 6 лет назад +7

      It's dumb

    • @THEMRHITMAN196
      @THEMRHITMAN196 6 лет назад +36

      GlobalGaming101 as someone born in northeast and roadtripped all over. It was foreign for me to live in Arizona for a few years without tolls

  • @EduardoEscarez
    @EduardoEscarez 6 лет назад +51

    Here in Chile a large portion of the highways are private-operated, most importantly the main routes like Panamerican Route 5 North and South, Route 68 (Valparaíso - Viña del Mar / Santiago), Autopista del Sol (Route 78, Santiago - San Antonio) and the expressways within Santiago.
    And even if the prices are someway high, there are positive things. First, the routes are well maintain and with a lot of improvements like new bridges, the incorporation of the Televia TAG system (like the E-ZPass) outside the capital, and mostly safe travel across the country.
    Also allows the government to invest in non-profitable projects to connect the country, like the Carretera Austral (Route 7) and to connect many small cities and towns with the rest of the country.
    The only thing I would like to improve is the connection between my city (Valparaíso) and Santiago even with more lanes in Route 68 or another mass transit system (high-speed train) because constant traffic jams in weekends, long holidays and New Year's Eve.

  • @alexsu6872
    @alexsu6872 6 лет назад +50

    reminds me of Hwy 407 in Ontario, leased to a foreign company for 99 years. one of the most expensive toll road in north America, where its like 45 cents per kilometer, plus 1 dollar trip charge and 4.10 camera charge, and all the administration fees. And Ontario government help them collect toll by denying plate renewal to anyone who doesnt pay the 407 toll. Not even mentioning their crazy interest rate and don't even send you the bills sometime until many years later with thousands of dollars on interest rate.(just google search 407 plate denial)

    • @MrS5x
      @MrS5x 6 лет назад +3

      you should also note that ontario government decided to sale the profit making portion of the nuclear power plants while the public having to pay for the maintenance and liabilities.

  • @LiaMari
    @LiaMari 4 года назад +33

    I’m grateful I bumped into this video.
    This is something I’ve tried to explain to people and they just don’t get it.
    Yes, in a nutshell,
    We are being detained and fleeced by highway robbers.
    The roads are ours,
    We built them, we pay for them.
    And for absolutely no reason whatsoever, we are forced to pay and outside entity to pass.
    #TrollBridge should be a thing.
    It’s also interesting to note that if you don’t pay a toll to this outside entity for nothing in return, Our police will ticket you. Basically, running a toll is theft.
    😳🙄🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @lukazupie7220
      @lukazupie7220 4 года назад +1

      Lia Mari how do u mean no reason? U sold it, didn’t u?

  • @Trevmeistr
    @Trevmeistr 4 года назад +3

    Used the Skyway constantly while traveling between Chicagoland and Ohio. One thing also, the Dan Ryan and 90/94 to Gary are severely congested and are in poor condition. Using the Skyway was quicker, easier on the car, and had some great views of the lake.

  • @earthandwind820
    @earthandwind820 6 лет назад +7

    I'm from Chicago and I have always felt an immense sense of joy getting on the Skyway to go east on a road trip! There's just something about it, especially at night....crossing the big letters (not paying, of course)....the view. Maybe it's in my head...idk lol
    Anyway, interesting video!!
    Love the skyway, love many things about Chicago, but the corruption and being charged for everything is something else!

  • @AlexBrinkleyMusic
    @AlexBrinkleyMusic 6 лет назад +1

    Just found this channel, and this is great! Keep it going!

  • @menopassini9348
    @menopassini9348 6 лет назад +35

    Chicago is one of the most mismanaged corrupt cities in the United States. Chicago has sold off public housing, parking meters, hyway billboards, red light tickets, Chicago Skyway and has subcontracted out many city services. They even tried to lease off Midway Airport. Where did all these Billions go? It has been spent that we do know. These Shenanigans leases have only resulted in poorer services and higher rates. Real Estate Taxes are going up 8% to cover the budget gap. These leases are effectively a sale because they last for decades.

    • @davidferrer678
      @davidferrer678 6 лет назад +3

      Meno Passini billboards are Privately owned to begin with though lol

    • @menopassini9348
      @menopassini9348 6 лет назад +1

      David Ferrer The Billards are on public property. The City went Nuts over these electronic billboards and put a moratorium against them on private property. During Johnson Administration 50 yrs. ago they tried to get rid of Billards along the Hyways. Nothing sez Chicago better than a Big gaudy flashing billboard.
      m.chicagoreader.com/chicago/digital-billboards-signs-expressways-rahm-alderman-fioretti/Content?oid=10525399

    • @earthandwind820
      @earthandwind820 6 лет назад +7

      Meno Passini Tell me about it!! We are probably one of the most taxed cities in the country; we even have an entertainment tax, but where does all this money go? We're still broke and half of Chicago is falling apart.

    • @dontworry1302
      @dontworry1302 6 лет назад +1

      Which is worse, Chicago or Springfield?

    • @teddwal
      @teddwal 6 лет назад +1

      Our mayor is literally just some rich guy who looks away from all the bad shit in the city

  • @alanfollett6242
    @alanfollett6242 6 лет назад +78

    In a parallel fund-raising move, in 2008 the Richard M. Daley administration signed a 75-year, $1.15 billion dollar lease of the city's parking meters to an international consortium (which I'd like to think includes Somali pirates).

    • @freetrailer4poor
      @freetrailer4poor 6 лет назад +8

      That is why don't believe in paying rent for land and will never visit a shithole like Chicago.

    • @cecilroberts4895
      @cecilroberts4895 6 лет назад +4

      pirucreek ugh... Paying rent isn't an option

    • @p0llenp0ny
      @p0llenp0ny 6 лет назад

      +Jackson Flab Of course it is.

    • @0fficialdregs
      @0fficialdregs 6 лет назад +9

      unless you have the full amount to buy land, then you're really renting land.

    • @raney150
      @raney150 5 лет назад +6

      pirucreek Chicago is amazing. Gary is the shithole

  • @zagaberoo
    @zagaberoo 5 лет назад

    What a fascinating story, and one I'd probably never have known if it weren't for the engrossing presentation style of this channel.

  • @Tommy_Gibbs_II
    @Tommy_Gibbs_II 4 года назад +6

    I love the skyway. I feel like Tony Soprano in the shows opening credits when I drive it.

  • @pkpopkpo
    @pkpopkpo 4 года назад +55

    The city is running out of things to sell off, so now real estate taxes are going through the roof and people are running away from Illinois.

    • @emilystevens6335
      @emilystevens6335 4 года назад +8

      HOW FOOLISH DO YOU HAVE TO BE, TO SELL YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE??? That's as bad as a person selling their blood, something they need to live.

    • @ritwikreddy5670
      @ritwikreddy5670 4 года назад +11

      @@emilystevens6335 it's even worse. You can regenerate your blood very easily. It's more like selling your organs.

    • @danilthorstensson8902
      @danilthorstensson8902 3 года назад

      Emily stevens they are told it iNcREasEs eFfiCIeNcy

    • @berndlauert8179
      @berndlauert8179 3 года назад +3

      @@ritwikreddy5670 well, more like selling your arteries would fit that analogy

    • @sleepinonmezzz5374
      @sleepinonmezzz5374 3 года назад

      Fr the city is down bad. My mom's property taxes tripled in recent years yet the street lights outside were out for near an entire year

  • @henrymota7725
    @henrymota7725 6 лет назад

    Fantastic video, I grew up where the skyway enters Chicago. I always thought the sale of the Skyway was a horrible move by then Mayor Daley, but this video gave a great insight into its history and sale. Thank you

  • @nathanfrench797
    @nathanfrench797 6 лет назад +2

    I love the toll bridge with a passion, solely on a tradition stand point. Whenever my family would go to visit my dad's parents out East, we would always make a point of taking the toll road. The toll booths and the McDonalds were key points in my trips. I loved seeing the neon sign declaring the name of the great stretch of roadway. I never knew it could be so expensive (probably cause I wasn't the one paying the tolls), and I will forever miss the McDonalds. I know that it'd be impossible to convince them to bring it back, it makes clear financial sense to get rid of it, but I'll miss it.

  • @SteveSilverActor
    @SteveSilverActor 5 лет назад +3

    Great episode as usual! I'd be interested in your take on a similar 99-year deal done in the last days of the R.M. Daley administration to lease the parking meters to a private investment company. It has been very controversial here in Chicago.

  • @wheresbicki
    @wheresbicki 6 лет назад +18

    That tri state section that intersects I-55 is the worst designed stretch of highway.

    • @dontworry1302
      @dontworry1302 6 лет назад

      wheresbicki Is that the area that fells like there's a speed bump every 30 feet?

  • @flipalot24
    @flipalot24 6 лет назад +3

    I could never imagine paying a toll. I drive one state highway, 3 stop signs, 8 miles to my job. I only have 3 STOP LIGHTS in my entire county. The only time I sit at a stop light is when I go to the grocery store every other week. Here in Wisconsin I love it, I never sit in any traffic, EVER..

    • @CityBeautiful
      @CityBeautiful  6 лет назад

      I was born and raised in Wisconsin and tolls still seem weird and wrong to me.

    • @theleftuprightatsoldierfield
      @theleftuprightatsoldierfield 5 лет назад

      Only 3 stoplights in your whole county? I have to go through 5 lights and frequently get stopped by a train on my 2 mile drive to school every day.

  • @yopyop5546
    @yopyop5546 6 лет назад +3

    Really interesting video! Thank you!

  • @notyournormalg1
    @notyournormalg1 4 года назад +7

    I’m so sad to hear about that McDonalds. I loved to eat there!

  • @CamdenBloke
    @CamdenBloke 6 месяцев назад

    I used to live in Illinois and drove the skyway a couple times. It did feel kind of exciting and 1950s futuristic to pass through the gate and travel down this long swooping bridge. I recall being able to drive relatively quickly compared to the Eisenhower, etc, as there were fewer blockages from people getting on/off exits.

  • @bradbowers3343
    @bradbowers3343 5 лет назад +5

    I see you've been reading Jane Jacobs. Huge inspiration for the field of urban planning, she really introduced ground-breaking ideas about how cities function, evolve and fail. Great quote in one of her books: “Cities have the capability of providing something for everybody, only because, and only when, they are created by everybody.”

  • @gonzalosantamaria7002
    @gonzalosantamaria7002 5 лет назад

    Great video! Love your transport vids. Would you care to talk about the RER proyect in Buenos Aires?

  • @abentco
    @abentco 5 лет назад

    This was presented very well. Thanks

  • @mr51406
    @mr51406 5 лет назад +2

    Love how you put a Jane Jacobs book under your microphone! 😉👍🏼
    Frank, geographer

    • @richardbreed9810
      @richardbreed9810 4 года назад

      The picture at 3:00 shows a 1958 Chevrolet Impala. So that photo is not from 1953 as your narrative says.

  • @screamingcatchannel9624
    @screamingcatchannel9624 3 года назад +2

    Ontario, Canada did a similar thing with Ontario Highway 407

  • @guilhermetavares4705
    @guilhermetavares4705 2 года назад +1

    Road concessions are extremely common here in Brazil. Normally, highways managed by private companies have better maintenance, safety, and rescue services. In addition, road concessions are able to unlock many investments in local infrastructure, such as road duplication, bridges, and tunnels.

  • @duncan6881
    @duncan6881 3 года назад +3

    I literally thought "huh that's weird I've never seen or been on that bridge" until u showed the McDonalds; then I got flashbacks.

  • @PhillProbst
    @PhillProbst 6 лет назад +4

    Toll roads appear to be making a comeback. The recently opened Inter-County connector (MD Rt.200) in the Maryland suburbs of Washington, DC (think “outer beltway”) is a toll road, and there are plans afoot for other toll routes or lanes. The new wrinkle is there are no toll booths. If you don’t have an EZ-Pass module you get a bill in the mail a month or so after you use the road. The annoying part is that the bill is worded like a violation, as if you had run a toll booth 😡

    • @chrizizdaman
      @chrizizdaman 6 лет назад

      There's been many times heading home to Reston on the Dulles Toll Road I forgot to bring money or change. Like clock work that letter comes in the mail with an amazing picture of my car and license plate.

  • @matthewwatson5273
    @matthewwatson5273 6 лет назад +40

    Well that McDonald's could've made a policy to buy something before using the bathroom.

  • @joseph221092
    @joseph221092 6 лет назад +22

    Almost all of Sydney's motorways are tolled, with 135km worth of tolled road. Over 75% of these tolled motorways are privately owned. More private toll motorways are being planned and constructed in Sydney. According to a news article, by 2023, Sydney will have the most toll roads than any city in the world.

    • @neerajindra9097
      @neerajindra9097 6 лет назад +1

      Joseph Kwok I too am a sydneysider and the tolling of the m4 has only a made congestion on Victoria rd and Parramatta rd. I think that there should be a toll when travelling in peak hour like London has done. This will influence people to take the train network and bus.

    • @joseph221092
      @joseph221092 6 лет назад +1

      agreed, although motorists should realise that the money paid on the toll does goes towards the construction of the tunnel between m4 and Haberfield, instead of the pockets of Sydney mototway corp

    • @neerajindra9097
      @neerajindra9097 6 лет назад

      Joseph Kwok yes

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C 6 лет назад

      Non-highway roads should not have tolls or "peak" fees as this undermines their primary purpose of direct access to property. Nobody is entitled to any particular level of convenience, so if there is traffic, it is what it is and individuals can find alternate behaviors on their own. Putting a toll on "Oak Street" is almost like putting a toll on somebody's driveway.

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 6 лет назад

      Good.

  • @rogerwilco2
    @rogerwilco2 4 года назад +1

    I drove there a month ago, visiting from Europe, and thought the whole layout of the roads was really odd.
    It makes a lot more sense now.

  • @ShuaiXie
    @ShuaiXie 5 лет назад +1

    Like Ontario’s leased public owned highway 407 to private company for 3.1B CAD for 99 year, which is totally a bad deal for future governments.

  • @brockjohnson100
    @brockjohnson100 4 года назад

    Great video. Thank you

  • @JimBeshears
    @JimBeshears 3 года назад +1

    Investigate the Cline Avenue Bridge in East Chicago Indiana. The Cline extension was put in by the state and after just a few years of operation the bridge failed. What no one else tell the taxpayers is why the engineering design firm or contractors were not responsible for replacing the bridge. Now a private company put a smaller bridge up and it is a toll bridge. Taxpayers paid for that once, we shouldn't have to pay for it again.

  • @melduforx
    @melduforx 6 лет назад +1

    Such great videos! Have you thought about doing a video on Public Private Partnerships and the HOT lanes in Northern Virginia?

    • @CityBeautiful
      @CityBeautiful  6 лет назад

      I hadn't thought about it until now. Thanks for the tip!

    • @melduforx
      @melduforx 6 лет назад +1

      Excellent. I'd be happy to help with research and figures if need be. The HOV (now HOT) lanes have a very interesting history in this area, along with a unique, unofficial ride sharing method known as "slugging".

    • @CityBeautiful
      @CityBeautiful  6 лет назад

      Oh yeah, I've heard about slugging! I'll let you know if/when I start working on this video. Unfortunately I only produce about one video per month and I've got the next couple of months locked in. (Olympic cities and monorails).

  • @tjejojyj
    @tjejojyj 6 лет назад

    In Australia the private toll roads within the cities often have contract clauses to limit the construction and/or operation of parallel (ie competing) roads and public transport. A variant on this is the private rail line that goes to Sydney Airport but only one bus route goes to the airport. The public trains run to the airport but there is an “access” surcharge of about $10 that goes to the private firm that runs the stations.

  • @terribelbliss9646
    @terribelbliss9646 5 лет назад

    This is an interesting story and you've told it well. As a Chicago resident I will say this; from downtown to I80 is much quicker than 94 especially during certain times of day. If you take Lake Shore Dr and connect via Mlk drive your there. But the real bonus is the very scenic drive both leaving and coming. Out bound You pass through Jackson park, U of C and museum campuses and soon to be Obama Library. . Upon entry you see the Magnificence of the city. Especially at night. It is electrifying and worth the five dollar toll. I might suggest you do a video on the privatization metered parking in Chicago. 👍

  • @LucasFernandez-fk8se
    @LucasFernandez-fk8se 4 года назад +2

    Honestly if I were Chicago in the 1950s and they built that highway without me knowing I would have just built a giant culdesac on their highway turning those commuters right back to Indiana just to get back at them

  • @boogitybear2283
    @boogitybear2283 2 года назад +1

    I’ve used the Skyway only if there’s been major accidents on the I-80 and 94. Other than that, it’s actually a scenic route as well especially seeing the Chicago skyline from Indiana.

  • @jmauck3
    @jmauck3 2 года назад

    It may not be the best road, but when I am heading back to Milwaukee from my parents' house in Indiana, there is nothing more beautiful than the view from the Skyway Bridge of all the Chicago city lights. Also, the amount of traffic you avoid on the Borman-Kingery expressway (80/94) makes the toll a bargain at twice the price.

  • @cats400
    @cats400 6 лет назад

    5:21 I've been on that ferry. It connects Galveston Island to Bolivar Peninsula on the Southeastern Texas coast. It's a good place to watch dolphins and look at ships since it crosses the Houston Ship Channel.

  • @midwestRailFanner
    @midwestRailFanner 4 года назад

    The Dan Ryan follows 57, 94 past 95th is the Bishop Ford
    Great video btw!

  • @tristanmoller9498
    @tristanmoller9498 6 лет назад +4

    So much fun to drive over the skyway

  • @DaneRates
    @DaneRates Год назад +1

    You should mention the fact that commuters had other options such as East West HWY 20, 94 and 30. Also North South HWY 41 and 55

  • @toddlogg
    @toddlogg 6 лет назад

    This is the most interesting thing I've watched in a while

  • @sunils8188
    @sunils8188 6 лет назад

    I want to spam those this dude but this is a good video, in Toronto there were a lot of highway projects that were planned and never built and now the city needs all those roads that were planned, story here is sometimes those infrastructure projects will be needed to be built and it is better to build early while it is possible because building later will be more difficult

  • @Mighty_Atheismo
    @Mighty_Atheismo 5 лет назад

    You killed me with that bit about that mcdonalds. It too was my favorite part

  • @weasel945
    @weasel945 6 лет назад

    Here I am really wanting Great Streets by Allen Jacobs and you're using it as a mic stand.

  • @nutandboltguy3720
    @nutandboltguy3720 3 года назад

    I’m surprised they haven’t gone to the latest tollway trends, like having electronic billing by reading license plate registration and variable rates based on the amount of traffic on the skyway. Dallas has traffic sensors that will change the toll price based on how heavy or light it is on nearby non-toll roads. I’m not sure if they raise or lower the toll during rush hours. It could be lower if no one is using the toll road, thus enticing drivers to jump on the toll road to relieve non-toll road congestion. It could be the opposite, forcing drivers to pay big for the convenience of bypassing some traffic. I’m not much of a toll road user.

  • @twhite6692
    @twhite6692 4 года назад +3

    I always thought the skyway was cool and the downtown view at night is spectacular but privitization on any scale like that sucks big time

  • @AtomicBoo
    @AtomicBoo 4 года назад +1

    Living in the west coast and south west, I've never seen a toll road in all my life.

  • @supermilkchan123
    @supermilkchan123 6 лет назад +2

    LMFAO that Mcdonald's, though i never been inside, it always seemed like such an odd, liminal space.
    I always thought of it like Prada Marfa installation.

  • @CP-pk1je
    @CP-pk1je 3 года назад

    Well the worst part about it isn’t even the price... I commute from Hyde park to the I-57 suburbs. The first thing I notice once I’m on the highway is that the I-90 ramp takes 2 full lanes and no one really goes that way. The already congested traffic on the local lanes has to fit in 2 lanes and constantly deal with people cutting in lane.

  • @justaguy6216
    @justaguy6216 3 года назад +2

    Privatization ruins everything for the consumers. We always end up with higher prices and worse quality.

  • @lukehayden5492
    @lukehayden5492 6 лет назад +13

    The service at that McDonalds was terrible. The food was also over-priced.

    • @pyrotechnic96
      @pyrotechnic96 3 года назад

      Probably doesn't help that their delivery drivers had to pay a toll too

  • @kp3wombat
    @kp3wombat 6 лет назад +1

    Apparently you have not been on the New Jersey Turnpike or New York State Thruway. They have tolls much higher than $5.

  • @JordanHerrera
    @JordanHerrera 6 лет назад

    I love your channel

  • @marjoriemorris5849
    @marjoriemorris5849 4 года назад

    What are those books you have your mic set up on?

  • @frevazz3364
    @frevazz3364 3 года назад +1

    Politicians in Florida have an addiction to toll roads because of private interests (Developers buying cheap land and then getting the public to finance the toll road so that the value of their land skyrockets, private equity and banks making a fortune off interest on the bonds taken to build the road, etc.) The tolls in Central Florida are about every 3 to 4 miles and cost about $1.50 each, it's ridiculous.

  • @2022_Urban_Survivor
    @2022_Urban_Survivor 2 года назад

    Just moved back to Indiana and decided to take the Skyway because of the bad traffic on 80/94. Got to the booth to pay and it was $5.80. Blew my mind.

  • @vanhalenwolfgang
    @vanhalenwolfgang 6 лет назад +232

    eww, Gary Indiana

    • @earthandwind820
      @earthandwind820 6 лет назад +31

      NashTvirus ew, Northwest Indiana in general lol

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C 6 лет назад +5

      WHEE HEEE!!! SHAMONA!!!

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 6 лет назад +3

      It wasn't so bad back then.

    • @DmitriyK12
      @DmitriyK12 6 лет назад +3

      😃😎😊😂, to your avatar photo; joking aside, Gary, Indiana is a beautiful city...at least from what I can see in phtos/videos on RUclips. I have never traveled to the Midwest or Western part of the US of A.

    • @DmitriyK12
      @DmitriyK12 6 лет назад +2

      I did make my way down South to Columbus and Atlanta, Georgia; 2002, US of A Army boot camp...honorable discharge...just wasn't for me.

  • @brandonlaba2956
    @brandonlaba2956 6 лет назад +2

    I drive this everyday to get into the city for work. Very interesting!

  • @flashbackcubsfan2055
    @flashbackcubsfan2055 4 года назад

    Thanks....didn't know this.

  • @britamericaball2505
    @britamericaball2505 3 года назад

    There is also another Skyway in Metro Manila that run straight to the center of Metro Manila, built in three stages since the late 1990s with the recent Stage 3 completed just this year. It is privatized and owned by a massive conglomerate in the country named San Miguel Corporation, famous for its beer products.

  • @BlackfeatherTanfur
    @BlackfeatherTanfur 5 лет назад

    In Virginia, there's a "Dulles Greenway" which is a private toll road built with private funds, and much later than the Chicago Skyway. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_State_Route_267#Dulles_Greenway for a history. It is sure a lot more (percent-wise). Just the short hop to the Loundon County Expressway from the eastern end is $6.65 (or $5.65 EZ Pass [Electronic tolll system]), whereas the entire route of 267 from start to the start of the Greenway is only $3.50. So there are much newer toll roads built in the US.

  • @MilwaukeeF40C
    @MilwaukeeF40C 6 лет назад +1

    All interstate and limited access highways should be fully privatized. Toll roads, redevelopment, farm land, drag strips, whatever the new owners want to do with them.

  • @pongop
    @pongop 2 года назад

    The Golden Gate bridge is also privately owned (or operated?) and the toll has gotten pretty expensive: $8-9+.

  • @mymindtattedalready9257
    @mymindtattedalready9257 5 лет назад

    That building at 6:00 is gorgeous

  • @josephlalock8378
    @josephlalock8378 3 года назад +2

    had i been in charge , i would have just built a loop sending the traffic right back into indiana

  • @Marchant2
    @Marchant2 6 лет назад

    Good video!

  • @route2070
    @route2070 6 лет назад +1

    Daily also leased out the parking meters and parking garages. Also from all 3 of these almost all the money is gone and the city wont get any revenue from any of these 3 for the next 60 years. He also tried the same with Midway.

  • @david33mtrb
    @david33mtrb 3 года назад +1

    6:10 - “It was one of the last toll roads built in the United States...” Clearly our host is unfamiliar with the plethora of toll roads that have been built and expanded in Texas cities over the past 30+ years. The Sam Rayburn Tollway and President George Bush Turnpike in Dallas, the Chisholm Trail Parkway in Fort Worth, TX-130 and TX-45 in Austin, and the Sam Houston Tollway in Houston. this is by no means an exhaustive listing. There are others, both in the afore mentioned cities (some taking the form of “express lanes” with dynamic pricing that run alongside, under, or over the clogged free lanes) as well as in Tyler, El Paso, Brownsville, and more.

    • @FameyFamous
      @FameyFamous 3 года назад +1

      Maybe he meant to say it was the last toll road built and designated as an Interstate?

  • @aminr4281
    @aminr4281 3 года назад

    This is from 4 years ago and I’m just hearing about it? Damn!

  • @frowlinian8175
    @frowlinian8175 6 лет назад

    I've always wondered what was going on with I80 and I90 coming into Chicago

  • @jermainegaines9972
    @jermainegaines9972 4 года назад +9

    And the ex mayor daley sits on the border of the new company... lol

  • @MeltTheUniverse
    @MeltTheUniverse 5 лет назад +4

    I live in Indiana... Gary is like a no zone for us. Lmao

    • @justinanderson181
      @justinanderson181 5 лет назад +1

      I just went through it yesterday, and yes. This is a fact. It also doesnt smell great either because of the steel mills

    • @MeltTheUniverse
      @MeltTheUniverse 5 лет назад +1

      @@justinanderson181 Mhm normally the south sucks but the more north in Indiana the more trash the cities are.

    • @jorgegaytan3012
      @jorgegaytan3012 4 года назад +1

      Justin Anderson try 55 n towards Chicago ,its a nightmare,,and the smell,its terrible

  • @PureAlbania
    @PureAlbania 6 лет назад +2

    I have 9 different highways with tolls at 10 miles distance from my house. Have also one that is free though.

  • @1_Papa
    @1_Papa 5 лет назад +1

    I agree that the saddest thing for Indiana commuters is that they have to pay such a high toll and it doesn't benefit them in any way.
    BUT
    I think the saddest thing for Illinois residents is that now, state officials believe that putting tolls on any new or rebuilt expressway is the antidote for all of our problems. Don't believe me? Look up the following:
    Illinois 390 (formerly the "Elgin O'Hare Expressway")
    Interstate 490 (coming soon)
    Illiana Tollway (New, from I65 to I57)
    Adlai E. Stevenson (I55, next rebuild to feature tolls)
    Lake Shore Drive, U S. 41 ("Tolls a good idea!" - Mayor Rahm Emanuel)
    Time to leave Illinois, I think.
    Papa has spoken 🐇

    • @JoePCool14
      @JoePCool14 5 лет назад +1

      I live near Chicago, Illinois currently with my parents.
      Illinois is a terrible state.
      When I marry and start a family, I will not be living in Illinois.

    • @1_Papa
      @1_Papa 3 года назад

      @@JoePCool14 Wise decision!

  • @nabilb6974
    @nabilb6974 6 лет назад

    After a bit of research found that average daily use is 36k and the price ranges from 5 to 42 USD. If we say then that the average price is 9 usd it will bring in more than 118 million usd a year. Haven't seen the video don't know if they said this. And it's not some private investors its the Canadian pension fund that bought it.

  • @CoastalKite
    @CoastalKite 3 года назад

    This explains why when I lived there years ago about the time this was published, they deleted the McDonalds in the middle of the Skyway and raised the price to $5. I will not accept that the revenue isn’t even going to the state. They just need to tear the whole thing down if they don’t want it. People are greedy

  • @ddelimar
    @ddelimar 5 лет назад +3

    @4:38 Look, a Yugo! :)

  • @fullofhype
    @fullofhype 4 года назад +1

    I like the part where because Indiana drivers complained about the toll money being used by Chicago to improve other parts of Chicago and not only the Sky Bridge led the city to sell it to a private entity, who then in turn raised the toll rate on the Indiana drivers. Karma?

  • @surfie007
    @surfie007 6 лет назад

    In the state of Queensland in Australia every toll road is owned by a private company so no money from any tolls in Queensland actually go to the state

  • @michealklee8844
    @michealklee8844 4 года назад

    As a carpenter in Chicago this is so true

  • @ludgatecircus15
    @ludgatecircus15 4 года назад

    Why an image of NY City at 5:15? Could not find an image of Chicago?

  • @deep_dive6699
    @deep_dive6699 6 лет назад

    Interesting to compare this to the M6 toll in the UK which Macquarie also funded, the debt on that road made it impossible to make a profit as people could avoid the tolls, the debt has since been restructured which is another way of saying written off.