Logitech is better: it has iPad case for protection, function key row, holder for pencil, can remove keyboard and still have the iPad with case, outside material is more robust, and it’s half the price. Unfortunately it’s not available for the iPad Pro. Logitech is the winner by far for me.
I disagree. It is better in every away except for protection and function keys. And the magic keyboard is way more lappable in the bed or sofa which in my opinion is the biggest weakness of the logitech case. But doing a comparison is not fair anyways. iPad pro + magic keyboard is in a whole other price range than the regular iPad + logitech case.
They both have their strengths and weaknesses. I really like both cases. You do point out a lot of nice features of the Logitech case, but to point out some of them on the Magic Keyboard case: 1: Extremely easy to remove, so you can just pull your tablet out and use it in its purest form (or pop it into the similarly easy Smart Folio, as I do) 2: Although I miss the function keys, bringing the screen up and forward makes it substantially easier to touch the screen without leaning forward 3: Extra charging port is very convenient 4: The iPad Pro already has a Pencil holder built-in via magnets 5: I don't actually use my Pencil often and I don't like how the Logitech loop looks without anything in it 6: This is perhaps the biggest, but the Logitech case will be very hard (although not impossible) to use in your lap. The kickstand approach is great in some ways, but as I've seen on my own Surface Pro and Tab S6, using it in your lap is quite difficult and precarious. The Magic Keyboard, on the other hand, is basically just like using a laptop because the keyboard is at a fixed angle to the stand, and because the center of gravity is positioned over the keyboard (or at least somewhat over the keyboard) whereas all of the weight of the tablet on the Logitech keyboard case is, in essence, falling backwards. Using it on the couch will be awkward, but fine, but I wouldn't dream of using my Surface Pro in my lap on the J line.
elenchus Your points are very weak tbh. 1. What If you don’t wanna remove it from case that often? Who removes from case that many time? I guess you have to on Magic Keyboard case because your can’t take notes or draw without removing it. 2. Function keys are much comfortable than touching any kind of screen floating or not. 3.Extra charging port is good but that price point they should’ve added another one on right side. 4. Regular iPad has no built-in pencil holder so what you expect? Are we comparing Cases or iPads?🤔5.Logitech added second best option holding the pen. 6. This is perhaps the biggest You can lap if you really want to. On iPad Pro what if you dont want the keyboard but kickstand? Remove it from your easily removable case then what? What if you wanna draw with good kickstand angle? Remove it from case then what? What if you wanna take a note like on paper? You remove it from case? Yea i guess easily removable case is very import to you 😂. These things you cant do on your Magic case even when you try. Magic Keyboard case just doesn’t give you that much freedom, it restricts you, and also Logitech is much cheaper and offers more?! There is a reason why Apple didn’t let Logitech to develop their cases on Pro models. Why do we even comparing lol, if you have iPad Pro you can’t buy Logitech case, if you have regular iPad you can’t buy Magic case either. So there is no point of comparing 🤣
@@piggyooi "1. What If you don’t wanna remove it from case that often? Who removes from case that many time?" The same people that want to occasionally remove the keyboard from the Logitech case, ostensibly. Sometimes I just want it to be a super thin and light tablet. "2. Function keys are much comfortable than touching any kind of screen floating or not." My point is that there's a trade off, not that it's easier to replicate the function keys' utility via touch. The Surface Pro design on which the Logitech Combo Touch and Tab S6 are based requires the screen to be farther away, inherently making it more difficult to switch between typing/trackpad use and touch interface. Whether or not that's worth the trade off in lacking function keys is a subjective, person-by-person evaluation. "3.Extra charging port is good but that price point they should’ve added another one on right side." The iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard case does have a USB-C port on the right side, in the iPad Pro itself. So you have one on each side total. For this price I would expect 0 extra ports, since none were promised or expected prior to the announcement. "4. Regular iPad has no built-in pencil holder so what you expect? Are we comparing Cases or iPads?" I expect to have the choice. That might mean selling two different versions of the case, or having a removable Pencil loop, or perhaps something more adaptable. It's not a big deal, but it's a minor downside to me. Not everyone, and not even most people, use the Pencil with their iPad. With Logitech's keyboard case for the 2020 iPad Pro, the Slim Folio Pro, the strap that secures the case is flexible enough to either hold the Pencil or to close all the way down and disappear. "6. This is perhaps the biggest You can lap if you really want to. On iPad Pro what if you dont want the keyboard but kickstand? Remove it from your easily removable case then what? What if you wanna draw with good kickstand angle? Remove it from case then what? What if you wanna take a note like on paper? You remove it from case? Yea i guess easily removable case is very import to you" That doesn't actually refute my point. My point is that it makes a better literal laptop, not that it is perfect in every way and the Logitech case is terrible in every way. Each has their pros and cons. I love both. If I had an iPad Air in additional to my iPad Pro, I'd have both. I'll probably be buying multiple Logitech Combo Touch cases for my friends and mother anyway. "There is a reason why Apple didn’t let Logitech to develop their cases on Pro models." Logitech was allowed to develop cases, including keyboard cases, for the 2020 iPad Pro, and has actually produced keyboard cases for the 2020 iPad Pro, such as the Logitech Slim Folio Pro, which is available as we speak. Why they opted not to produce the Combo Touch for the iPad Pro I can only speculate, but I'm guessing that they felt that the market would be crowded with the new Magic Keyboard. They might introduce it later when the marketing for the Magic Keyboard has died down.
i have the magic keyboard case but i love them both honestly. in several ways the logitech is better, but in others it's worse. for half the price though (less than half for me, I've got the 12.9) it's a vastly superior deal
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I have the combo touch keyboard for the air 3. Great purchase and I like that the iPad is still protected with a case when I am not using the keyboard. The keyboard typing experience is very nice, and it’s the first keyboard I have ever owned with backlighting. Well worth $150 price !
Spot on, I wonder the same thing - they cannot be compared really, they are made for different iPads and one doesn't have a trackpad. Stupid comparison.
I just upgraded from the iPad air with the Combo case to an iPad pro with the magic keyboard case. I do sometimes miss having the function keys but really appreciate the smaller footprint of the new iPad. When I am using it at a small table or on the go, the smaller footprint makes the iPad pro a lot more convenient.
If you think about it, the Logitech Combo Touch case converts the iPad into a Surface Pro, with a removable keyboard cover and trackpad, kickstand, and a place to store the Pencil. My Tab S6's case was also great like that (loved that tablet).
True. But honestly, they’re both tiny, so it’s a bit like splitting hairs. I have the combo touch and the trackpad definitely feels noticeably smaller than my MacBook Pro’s trackpad. I think the more important thing here is that the Apple trackpad appears to be more responsive. I haven’t been impressed with how well the Logitech trackpad responses to 4-finger swiping up gestures, etc. I haven’t experienced the Apple trackpad personally, so I can’t make any personal comparison.
I speculate that Logitech opted to avoid direct competition with the extremely well-marketed Magic Keyboard case. Maybe in six months when they don't have to keep with that advertising, they'll introduce their own keyboard as a value-based alternative.
they worked directly with apple to develop that keyboard specifically for the less expensive ipads, maybe the deal was apple will take the premium market and logitech the budget market.
i would prefer LOGITECH. The price as a feature is enough for me to go for the same. Logitech back-stand is great.I was expecting this video Vaddim, Nice and thorough review.
Ideal Keyboard: 1. Apple should add function keys 2. iPad should be able to rotate and be allowed to use as a writing/drawing pad. 3. Have a little tab to make it easier to open (Edit) 4. Keep Logitech's price point. Okay fine b/c you are apple, I will pay you a little extra.
The diving board trackpad on the Logitech Combo Touch isn’t an issue. Especially since it actually has more vertical area than the Magic Keyboard Case. The MKC trackpad is wide but narrow. Also, the stutter is a software issue specific to the cheap 10.2” iPad. It doesn’t happen on the other iPads like my 10.5” Pro.
I don’t know if Id call it original at all. The Acer Aspire R7 did the floating thing almost identical to that back in 2013 or so. I still have mine and I quite like it. It is a great design.
Vaddim you forgot to mention in your review that the Logitech Combo Touch keyboard case is also compatible with the 10.5" iPad Air & 10.5" Pro along with the entry-level 10.2" iPad
the protection, function keys, apple pencil holder and larger trackpad is more important to me than aesthetics and other minor advantages of the apple keyboard...logitech it is for me
I've got the Magic Keyboard Case for my 2020 12.9 iPad Pro. Some minor observations that I don't think were covered. 1: I don't like the way it slams shut if you close it the most natural way (put your hand and on the back of it and fold it down). It has a very spring loaded feel at the last inch and it clamps tight. You can hear it several times in this video. It's easy to adjust to just by pinching the iPad/case and closing it more carefully, but still room for improvement. 2: You can use right angle USB-C connectors on the Magic Keyboard case to route the cable directly behind it, making it practically invisible. 3: You can use the Magic Keyboard Case as a dock (if you want) and leave it plugged in at a stationary location and remove the iPad as needed to go elsewhere. I do this sometimes, switching to my Smart Folio. 4: This is a big one over Logitech, especially given the $300/$350 price, the Magic Keyboard Case is automatically covered by AppleCare+ if you have purchased it for your iPad Pro (and it's still active, you might need to check if you have a 2018 model). If you have some sort of keyboard issue or the hinge breaks or something like that, you can get it fixed under warranty. All that said, I also love the Logitech keyboard/trackpad case (Logitech Combo Touch) and might be buying some for friends/family. If I didn't have an iPad Pro, I'd totally be using the Logitech case.
Number 1 is actually one of my favorite things. I like how it slams shut, almost like the clicks sound of the AirPods case. It definitely won’t do any damage. Thanks for the input!
Reasons I prefer the Logitech (by my order preference): - Price - Can actually use my pencil with the iPad by detaching the keyboard - Bigger trackpad - Function keys - Added protection
Within 53 SEC of your video of how much your loved the iPad keyboard, I didn’t have to watch anymore. That’s how long you could have made this video, 53 SEC. Done.
It seems like this is an odd comparison and video. Does the average person have both a pro and or regular or Air? If not this comparison is off. Because only someone with a Pro can get the Magic Keyboard and only people with either a regular iPad or an Air can use the Logitech Combo Touch.
Here is how you know what to buy. If you have a new iPad Pro buy the magic keyboard from Apple. If you have any other iPad with a smart connector, buy the Logitech Combo keyboard.
Thanks Vadim for another great review! I used to buy all kinds of different cases and keyboards for all iPads I ever owned. My experience is that I lost so much money every time I bought cheap stuff. Can’t wait to get my hands on Magic Keyboard!
Logitech needs to offer an options for the iPad Pro models. Surprised they didn’t. They also need to offer one that works with the smart connector. I currently use the Smart Keyboard Folio for my 2018 12.9 and I love the keyboard, but the trackpad and extra USB-C port along with backlighting of the keys is really nice.
I'd say the magic keyboard because the thing that you just cannot get on any other iPad keyboard is the USB C port that support pass-through charging that frees up the regular USB C port and use the regular USB C port for other things like transfering files with an SD card adapter…
I have that Logitech Combo Touch Keyboard but the problem is that I tried with my iPad Pro 10.5 but it turns out few of the buttons aren’t actively right it acts like a trackpad when pressing the Letter buttons for some strange reason?
I dont get it .The logitech offers more angles for viewing ,It can be detached witha protective back cover and a stand for viewing . The magic keyboard doesnt have function key and the trackbad is too small . Not to mention the huge difference in price .Your verdict is clearly biased
The magic keyboard has better feeling keys, it has many viewing angles and it floats, much more comfortable on the lap, plus, it is much less bulky (although it offers baiscally no protection compared to the Logitech). But you're right about the lack of function keys and that massive price tag, ridiculous. It tempts many people to just get the crappy MacBook air or get the base macbook pro 13".
If you put a trackpad for a táctil display Is because you want to give a laptop experiences without rise your hand to press the screen. But without the function keys you have to, so... Nosense.
Hey guys, since now we have mouse and keyboard support (Bluetooth) is there a way to actually use iPad in a “Dock station”? What I mean is, connect the HDMI thru the USB-C and just use it as a regular workstation, with IPad’s screen turned off etc? Something like you can do with Nintendo Switch? @MaxTech guys you could try exploring this in one of your videos. Thanks!
What good is a premium looking case at release if it degrades quickly as others have shown within 18 months due to the material? His comment about those who would choose the magic keyboard are tied to those who prioritize premium is ridiculous. Maybe they are smarter in that they don't have to use a case to protect the case, especially at that price range. Maybe they want a good looking case that isn't worn out after 18 months too. Nonetheless, it was a very well done video and very informative.
Word. Jonny Ives’ quest for thinness at all costs really led to some crappy Apple keyboards for a while there. Glad they went back to the old scissor switch design.
Regarding function keys, id rather bump my finger into the screen. I dont understand why all reviewers make it such a big case. Its not like you use them for typing. I can just slide my finger in to adjust brightness/volume/lock screen rather than reaching physical buttons on my ipad.
The pass through USB-C charging feature that apple gave the magic Keyboard they are the 2nd brand to do that. Google did it first with their crappy google pixel slate keyboard with USB-C
Regardless of the price, I think the Logitech keyboard is better primarily because it doubles as a case as well if you'd ever want to use your iPad as, well, an iPad.. For the Magic keyboard you're basically stuck with having to use the iPad naked when you detach it from the keyboard, you could use a case although having to install and remove it from a case everytime you want to use a keyboard just seems ridiculous.. And as JerryRigEverythings' durability test of the iPad Pro has demonstrated, it definitely needs a case for protection..
I agree with some of the other comments. These two cases are for two different iPads. Nice video but it isn’t helpful if I’m trying to find a cheaper alternative to the magic keyboard for my ipad 11 pro. I looked for the Logitech combo plus for the iPad 11 pro 2020 and they don’t have it. Do you think they’ll make it soon? It’s a damn nice keyboard and if they keep the same price ill get it for sure.
I’m almost 100% sure that the reason there is no Combo Touch for the iPad Pro is because Apple wants the Magic Keyboard to be the only option with a trackpad that uses the smart connector. If that’s true, then 100% won’t get a Logitech Combo for the iPad Pro. Your other best choice is to go with the Brydge Pro Plus for $200 which uses Bluetooth and comes with other reliability issues. -Vadim
Max Tech if I was Logitech I’ll make one anyway even without MFI certification. There’s plenty of things that aren’t MFI certified that still work, or use bluetooth connectivity. I don’t think Apple can decide what another company can and cannot make. They can deny certification but Logitech is a pretty reliable company I don’t think they need it right? The MFI certification is just so customers know they can trust the product is it not? Anyway I really hope someone comes up with a cheaper option. I’m sure a Chinese clone is coming soon.
just realized that it's Logitech Folio Touch not Combo Touch. Combo touch is for Air 3 or iPad 2020. but it's good review of Magic keyboard and Folio Touch
Good thing that there is a solid option for the iPad Pro 10.5 since Brydge and Apple don't care. The 11" has been given all the attention. Definitely gonna keep my pro at least till the the real next iPad Pro is released with that beefy new chip.
I have the Logitech for my iPad Air 3 and love it. The Apple Magic looks very nice though. I think the Logitech has better iPad Air/Pro 10.5” protection.
Max Tech thanks! I was thinking of getting it since I like that you can expand it to 180°, and I can flip the keyboard and use it with the case closed. I put scripts on mine for shows and having it always open like the iPad Pro wouldn’t work.
Why they didn’t just wait another month for the logictech to make the same model for the ipadpro cause most of Maxes reason become really abundant :edit Does it matter that the magic keyboard has a usb c port? Its 300 bucks compared to the 150 bucks and a 9 dollar dongle, do the math and... one drop with the “Magic!” keyboard and its toast compared to the logic tech combo with the rubber ring
Sorry Vadim, I think you’re somewhat wrong on some of your remarks. I will be buying the iPad Pro WITH the Logitech keyboard. The”jean” material is way more durable and resistant that that “premium” rubber on the magic keyboard, witch overtime starts peeling and looks awful. The “floating” design looks good and all, but leave the iPad completely exposed to dents and scratches.
Would you really base your iPad choice on what kind of case you can get for it? Wouldn't you pick which iPad suits you better and then get the keyboard case? I would love a Magic Keyboard with track pad for the 7th gen that I have, but I'm stuck with getting Logitech. Which is not bad either.
This is one of the finest video comparisons I've seen in past for anything, I came just because I sew the Masterplan video and I loved the guy on the video, Sorry I don't know your name but I just love the way you compare everything. He pointed out every detail and you should buy which one as well👏 Well done oh boy✨
Would u recomend the 11 inch or 12.9 ipad pro and magic keyboard or base mac air for a university student doing economics. I may do light video or photo editing in the future.
Hiten MacBook Air, no question. The iPad OS software just isn’t as full featured as Mac OS software. Try the Microsoft office suite apps to see what I mean. PowerPoint (which is commonly used to prepare presentations in school and in the workplace) is severely gimped on the iPad compared to the same desktop app. iPads are great secondary tools and may be a very useful tool if you love to take handwritten notes or all of your books are distributed electronically. If that isn’t you, get the MacBook Air. I don’t think you would regret your decision.
most people that want to buy a keyboard case, they usually already have an ipad. So basically it doesn’t matter which better but they have to fit with their on ipad... . ( except you haven’t bought an ipad either... )
I like logitech combo touch more.This logitech keyboard supports touchpad plus connects to device via magnetic smart connector which is more accurate ,best in response,and much lighter and also lack of battery issue than bluetooth keyboard. Also it has function keys and much wider range of viewing angle that we can feel like using a laptop. The keyboard can also be removed if you want it to use as tablet mode, and the case still covers the device. But i wish to produce logitech combo touch for ipad pro 2018 and 2020 with more USB C built in keyboard. And more reasonable price than magic keyboard.👍
What's the point comparing the thickness of the 2 cases when they contain different iPads? iPad 10.2 is thicker by itself than iPad Pro, how could its case be the opposite?
I think the problem with this comparison is that you're not deciding between two keyboards, at least Im not. Im deciding between two ipads and their keyboards, and as you said at the end of the video: youre spending more than twice for the ipad pro and the magic keyboard. And for me the most importante things are the protection (that does not offer the magic keyboard) , the functionality(remember you can retire the keyboard in logitechs), function keys and durability. All this by paying less than half than the other.
The comparison using the least expensive iPad is OK, but using the iPad Air with the Logitech Combo Touch would be a better comparison. iPad Air 256GB with Combo Touch is $800.00.
Logitech is better: it has iPad case for protection, function key row, holder for pencil, can remove keyboard and still have the iPad with case, outside material is more robust, and it’s half the price. Unfortunately it’s not available for the iPad Pro. Logitech is the winner by far for me.
I disagree. It is better in every away except for protection and function keys. And the magic keyboard is way more lappable in the bed or sofa which in my opinion is the biggest weakness of the logitech case. But doing a comparison is not fair anyways. iPad pro + magic keyboard is in a whole other price range than the regular iPad + logitech case.
They both have their strengths and weaknesses. I really like both cases. You do point out a lot of nice features of the Logitech case, but to point out some of them on the Magic Keyboard case:
1: Extremely easy to remove, so you can just pull your tablet out and use it in its purest form (or pop it into the similarly easy Smart Folio, as I do)
2: Although I miss the function keys, bringing the screen up and forward makes it substantially easier to touch the screen without leaning forward
3: Extra charging port is very convenient
4: The iPad Pro already has a Pencil holder built-in via magnets
5: I don't actually use my Pencil often and I don't like how the Logitech loop looks without anything in it
6: This is perhaps the biggest, but the Logitech case will be very hard (although not impossible) to use in your lap. The kickstand approach is great in some ways, but as I've seen on my own Surface Pro and Tab S6, using it in your lap is quite difficult and precarious. The Magic Keyboard, on the other hand, is basically just like using a laptop because the keyboard is at a fixed angle to the stand, and because the center of gravity is positioned over the keyboard (or at least somewhat over the keyboard) whereas all of the weight of the tablet on the Logitech keyboard case is, in essence, falling backwards. Using it on the couch will be awkward, but fine, but I wouldn't dream of using my Surface Pro in my lap on the J line.
@@5hup5hup87 are you dumb, more lappable, gtfo
elenchus Your points are very weak tbh. 1. What If you don’t wanna remove it from case that often? Who removes from case that many time? I guess you have to on Magic Keyboard case because your can’t take notes or draw without removing it. 2. Function keys are much comfortable than touching any kind of screen floating or not. 3.Extra charging port is good but that price point they should’ve added another one on right side. 4. Regular iPad has no built-in pencil holder so what you expect? Are we comparing Cases or iPads?🤔5.Logitech added second best option holding the pen. 6. This is perhaps the biggest You can lap if you really want to. On iPad Pro what if you dont want the keyboard but kickstand? Remove it from your easily removable case then what? What if you wanna draw with good kickstand angle? Remove it from case then what? What if you wanna take a note like on paper? You remove it from case? Yea i guess easily removable case is very import to you 😂. These things you cant do on your Magic case even when you try. Magic Keyboard case just doesn’t give you that much freedom, it restricts you, and also Logitech is much cheaper and offers more?! There is a reason why Apple didn’t let Logitech to develop their cases on Pro models. Why do we even comparing lol, if you have iPad Pro you can’t buy Logitech case, if you have regular iPad you can’t buy Magic case either. So there is no point of comparing 🤣
@@piggyooi "1. What If you don’t wanna remove it from case that often? Who removes from case that many time?"
The same people that want to occasionally remove the keyboard from the Logitech case, ostensibly. Sometimes I just want it to be a super thin and light tablet.
"2. Function keys are much comfortable than touching any kind of screen floating or not."
My point is that there's a trade off, not that it's easier to replicate the function keys' utility via touch. The Surface Pro design on which the Logitech Combo Touch and Tab S6 are based requires the screen to be farther away, inherently making it more difficult to switch between typing/trackpad use and touch interface. Whether or not that's worth the trade off in lacking function keys is a subjective, person-by-person evaluation.
"3.Extra charging port is good but that price point they should’ve added another one on right side."
The iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard case does have a USB-C port on the right side, in the iPad Pro itself. So you have one on each side total. For this price I would expect 0 extra ports, since none were promised or expected prior to the announcement.
"4. Regular iPad has no built-in pencil holder so what you expect? Are we comparing Cases or iPads?"
I expect to have the choice. That might mean selling two different versions of the case, or having a removable Pencil loop, or perhaps something more adaptable. It's not a big deal, but it's a minor downside to me. Not everyone, and not even most people, use the Pencil with their iPad. With Logitech's keyboard case for the 2020 iPad Pro, the Slim Folio Pro, the strap that secures the case is flexible enough to either hold the Pencil or to close all the way down and disappear.
"6. This is perhaps the biggest You can lap if you really want to. On iPad Pro what if you dont want the keyboard but kickstand? Remove it from your easily removable case then what? What if you wanna draw with good kickstand angle? Remove it from case then what? What if you wanna take a note like on paper? You remove it from case? Yea i guess easily removable case is very import to you"
That doesn't actually refute my point. My point is that it makes a better literal laptop, not that it is perfect in every way and the Logitech case is terrible in every way. Each has their pros and cons. I love both. If I had an iPad Air in additional to my iPad Pro, I'd have both. I'll probably be buying multiple Logitech Combo Touch cases for my friends and mother anyway.
"There is a reason why Apple didn’t let Logitech to develop their cases on Pro models."
Logitech was allowed to develop cases, including keyboard cases, for the 2020 iPad Pro, and has actually produced keyboard cases for the 2020 iPad Pro, such as the Logitech Slim Folio Pro, which is available as we speak. Why they opted not to produce the Combo Touch for the iPad Pro I can only speculate, but I'm guessing that they felt that the market would be crowded with the new Magic Keyboard. They might introduce it later when the marketing for the Magic Keyboard has died down.
I may be the only one who likes the Logitech one more 😩
i have the magic keyboard case but i love them both honestly. in several ways the logitech is better, but in others it's worse. for half the price though (less than half for me, I've got the 12.9) it's a vastly superior deal
Don’t worry I like the Logitech one better
I found the Logitech much better in price and useablity aspects.
Negative, I like it more too
i like the logitech one better, at half the price it is the no brainer
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I have the combo touch keyboard for the air 3. Great purchase and I like that the iPad is still protected with a case when I am not using the keyboard. The keyboard typing experience is very nice, and it’s the first keyboard I have ever owned with backlighting. Well worth $150 price !
What is the point of even comparing these two? They’re made for two completely different iPads
Spot on, I wonder the same thing - they cannot be compared really, they are made for different iPads and one doesn't have a trackpad. Stupid comparison.
If you want the air you should buy Logitech, but if you want the pro you need to buy the magic keyboard, that is what he is saying
@@L.A.Tex_Norway they both have trackpads
I only have iPad Pros but I found it interesting nonetheless
Logitech works also on ipad pro 10.5. So got one refurbished like new from Apple for 379 usd. Function keys are really worth it alone in my opinion.
I think that the buying decision depends on which iPad you got...
so is the combo touch worth it for the pro 11 inch?
PCLoser yeah, combo touch does have 11 inch iPad Pro version XD
Jackass S no it isn't
@@pcloser2130 yes
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no it isn’t
there is no combo touch for 11inch.
I just upgraded from the iPad air with the Combo case to an iPad pro with the magic keyboard case. I do sometimes miss having the function keys but really appreciate the smaller footprint of the new iPad. When I am using it at a small table or on the go, the smaller footprint makes the iPad pro a lot more convenient.
If you think about it, the Logitech Combo Touch case converts the iPad into a Surface Pro, with a removable keyboard cover and trackpad, kickstand, and a place to store the Pencil. My Tab S6's case was also great like that (loved that tablet).
No body mentioned that the cheaper keyboard has a bigger trackpad
I noticed that. There just a apple channel.
True. But honestly, they’re both tiny, so it’s a bit like splitting hairs. I have the combo touch and the trackpad definitely feels noticeably smaller than my MacBook Pro’s trackpad. I think the more important thing here is that the Apple trackpad appears to be more responsive. I haven’t been impressed with how well the Logitech trackpad responses to 4-finger swiping up gestures, etc. I haven’t experienced the Apple trackpad personally, so I can’t make any personal comparison.
Also the cheaper keyboard also has function keys!
i wish there was a combo touch keyboard for the ipad pro :(
Alex Kapsimalis be patient and I bet Logi will drop something nice for the pro models. And they will have function rows!
DLITINTHEHOUSE hopefully
I speculate that Logitech opted to avoid direct competition with the extremely well-marketed Magic Keyboard case. Maybe in six months when they don't have to keep with that advertising, they'll introduce their own keyboard as a value-based alternative.
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they worked directly with apple to develop that keyboard specifically for the less expensive ipads, maybe the deal was apple will take the premium market and logitech the budget market.
Let me guess, he’s going to push the far more expensive option. Every.Single.Time 😂
Chance Roberts haha anti poor review. 😅😂😂😂
Ikr lol 😂
Man seriously i agree it's better but dude has 0 concerns for diminishing returns
i would prefer LOGITECH. The price as a feature is enough for me to go for the same. Logitech back-stand is great.I was expecting this video Vaddim, Nice and thorough review.
you dont have a choice as logitech doesnt make the same case for the ipad pro line up (2018/2020)
I too feel the same. I really like the Logitech case. Protects the iPad from all sides and even has function keys.
Ideal Keyboard:
1. Apple should add function keys
2. iPad should be able to rotate and be allowed to use as a writing/drawing pad.
3. Have a little tab to make it easier to open (Edit)
4. Keep Logitech's price point. Okay fine b/c you are apple, I will pay you a little extra.
Tarun Kakumanu also it should be easier to open
Sounds like you want the keyboard folio. It has all of that minus the function keys
The diving board trackpad on the Logitech Combo Touch isn’t an issue. Especially since it actually has more vertical area than the Magic Keyboard Case. The MKC trackpad is wide but narrow. Also, the stutter is a software issue specific to the cheap 10.2” iPad. It doesn’t happen on the other iPads like my 10.5” Pro.
his phrasing has become far better than it is in this video compared to some of his videos in 2021, keep it up vadim
My Logitech case will be here this week! I’m so excited.
I don’t know if Id call it original at all. The Acer Aspire R7 did the floating thing almost identical to that back in 2013 or so. I still have mine and I quite like it. It is a great design.
Vaddim you forgot to mention in your review that the Logitech Combo Touch keyboard case is also compatible with the 10.5" iPad Air & 10.5" Pro along with the entry-level 10.2" iPad
Ikr
the protection, function keys, apple pencil holder and larger trackpad is more important to me than aesthetics and other minor advantages of the apple keyboard...logitech it is for me
Literally using combo touch with my iPad 10th gen. I love it
I've got the Magic Keyboard Case for my 2020 12.9 iPad Pro. Some minor observations that I don't think were covered.
1: I don't like the way it slams shut if you close it the most natural way (put your hand and on the back of it and fold it down). It has a very spring loaded feel at the last inch and it clamps tight. You can hear it several times in this video. It's easy to adjust to just by pinching the iPad/case and closing it more carefully, but still room for improvement.
2: You can use right angle USB-C connectors on the Magic Keyboard case to route the cable directly behind it, making it practically invisible.
3: You can use the Magic Keyboard Case as a dock (if you want) and leave it plugged in at a stationary location and remove the iPad as needed to go elsewhere. I do this sometimes, switching to my Smart Folio.
4: This is a big one over Logitech, especially given the $300/$350 price, the Magic Keyboard Case is automatically covered by AppleCare+ if you have purchased it for your iPad Pro (and it's still active, you might need to check if you have a 2018 model). If you have some sort of keyboard issue or the hinge breaks or something like that, you can get it fixed under warranty.
All that said, I also love the Logitech keyboard/trackpad case (Logitech Combo Touch) and might be buying some for friends/family. If I didn't have an iPad Pro, I'd totally be using the Logitech case.
Thanks for this
Number 1 is actually one of my favorite things. I like how it slams shut, almost like the clicks sound of the AirPods case. It definitely won’t do any damage. Thanks for the input!
@@MaxTechOfficial You might be right. I'm really paranoid about my devices
Just the ipad pro is so fragile, that glass is very thin.
Your background is calm and cool 🔥
You could flip the magic keyboard upside down, so you get a great angle for drawing
I do this. Much easier. If I don’t have the space, I’ll just switch to my folio case.
Just if you dont rest your palm on the screen.. so basically you can use the magic keyboard in that case.
There is a gap which you need to put something in for it to stay firm
Zephyrus is it possible if you just lay it on the keyboard while drawing?
You can, but that’s a pretty janky solution. One of the few points where the Magic Keyboard is not as good as the combo touch.
Wanna see Logitech make a combo touch for the iPad Pro
Same, but Apple doesn’t want to see that. They want the magic keyboard as the sole option with a trackpad using the smart connector
and for the old iPad Pro 2017 12,9? It is the only one that does not have a combo keyboard + touchpad!
Reasons I prefer the Logitech (by my order preference):
- Price
- Can actually use my pencil with the iPad by detaching the keyboard
- Bigger trackpad
- Function keys
- Added protection
N more screen angles
Can you type on your lap with this?
@@plan4life yes but sorry for the late reply
Within 53 SEC of your video of how much your loved the iPad keyboard, I didn’t have to watch anymore.
That’s how long you could have made this video, 53 SEC. Done.
you tilt the screen all the way down for pencil users. that’s the purpose of that angle
It seems like this is an odd comparison and video. Does the average person have both a pro and or regular or Air? If not this comparison is off. Because only someone with a Pro can get the Magic Keyboard and only people with either a regular iPad or an Air can use the Logitech Combo Touch.
Here is how you know what to buy. If you have a new iPad Pro buy the magic keyboard from Apple. If you have any other iPad with a smart connector, buy the Logitech Combo keyboard.
I like your channel, but unfortunatey your Review Is very biased.
how so
He also spoke about the downsides of the Magic keyboard. How is this biased?
Zeelands Roem lol probably because he is a big Apple Fanboy.
It’s his review! That’s his analysis for his life and workflow. You make one then lol
Yeah it’s actually really biased
Thanks Vadim for another great review! I used to buy all kinds of different cases and keyboards for all iPads I ever owned. My experience is that I lost so much money every time I bought cheap stuff. Can’t wait to get my hands on Magic Keyboard!
Logitech needs to offer an options for the iPad Pro models. Surprised they didn’t. They also need to offer one that works with the smart connector. I currently use the Smart Keyboard Folio for my 2018 12.9 and I love the keyboard, but the trackpad and extra USB-C port along with backlighting of the keys is really nice.
The ipad pro keeps on slaying my practical thoughts especially its accessories like the 2nd gen pencil and magic keyboard.
Excellent contrast & compare video. Your content continues to get better and better. Informative, entertaining and factual, nice job and thank you!
I'd say the magic keyboard because the thing that you just cannot get on any other iPad keyboard is the USB C port that support pass-through charging that frees up the regular USB C port and use the regular USB C port for other things like transfering files with an SD card adapter…
I'll Definitely Give Apple $300-350 If They Add Another USB-C Port With Data / Quick Charge Pass Thru & Function Keys!
THEN WE ARE TALKING!
The fact that it has more ports than a 12 inch macbook is funny.
I have that Logitech Combo Touch Keyboard but the problem is that I tried with my iPad Pro 10.5 but it turns out few of the buttons aren’t actively right it acts like a trackpad when pressing the Letter buttons for some strange reason?
I student and I’m gonna buy the magic keyboard because I have the iPad Pro (11’)
I dont get it .The logitech offers more angles for viewing ,It can be detached witha protective back cover and a stand for viewing .
The magic keyboard doesnt have function key and the trackbad is too small .
Not to mention the huge difference in price .Your verdict is clearly biased
The magic keyboard has better feeling keys, it has many viewing angles and it floats, much more comfortable on the lap, plus, it is much less bulky (although it offers baiscally no protection compared to the Logitech). But you're right about the lack of function keys and that massive price tag, ridiculous. It tempts many people to just get the crappy MacBook air or get the base macbook pro 13".
I'll Definitely Give Apple $300-350 If They Add Another USB-C Port With Data / Quick Charge Pass Thru & Function Keys!
THEN WE ARE TALKING!
Good video. I'm REALLY interested in a comparison between the Magic Keyboard and the Logitech Slim Folio PRO.
Thanks for the review, i would prefer the logi
If you put a trackpad for a táctil display Is because you want to give a laptop experiences without rise your hand to press the screen. But without the function keys you have to, so... Nosense.
How can you compare the two. One is designed for the iPad Pro and the Logitech doesn’t fit the pro 11in or 12.9 so there’s no comparison
Hard to compare keyboards with iPads that don’t support each keyboard. It’s not like if you have the pro you can use the Logitech or vice versa...
I much prefer the Logitech. Just waiting for them to release this for iPad Pro 12.9" 2020
I like the Logitech keyboard better. Its really well made and at half the price I didn't even have to think about it
Hmmm 12:30 “a huge perk” to not have the charging cable sticking out from the side 2” higher. That’s pushing it a little too much.
Hey guys, since now we have mouse and keyboard support (Bluetooth) is there a way to actually use iPad in a “Dock station”? What I mean is, connect the HDMI thru the USB-C and just use it as a regular workstation, with IPad’s screen turned off etc? Something like you can do with Nintendo Switch? @MaxTech guys you could try exploring this in one of your videos. Thanks!
What good is a premium looking case at release if it degrades quickly as others have shown within 18 months due to the material? His comment about those who would choose the magic keyboard are tied to those who prioritize premium is ridiculous. Maybe they are smarter in that they don't have to use a case to protect the case, especially at that price range. Maybe they want a good looking case that isn't worn out after 18 months too.
Nonetheless, it was a very well done video and very informative.
Logitech "Feels like jeans" Combo Touch
The best video, this help me to buy iPad Air 3
I always liked Logitech so easy choice. Magic keyboard will never justify it’s cost no matter what any tech you tuber might say.
They both have better keyboards than the current Macbook Pro with those Butterfly Keys.
I’d have to agree! Crazy how far we’ve gotten with technology
Word. Jonny Ives’ quest for thinness at all costs really led to some crappy Apple keyboards for a while there. Glad they went back to the old scissor switch design.
They should’ve put a flap on the back to fold over and protect the Apple Pencil.
If the Logitech is working with a 10.5 inch iPad pro, could it work with a 11 inch iPad pro ? They have really similar form factor I think
Is logitech keyboard fits ipad pro 10.5 with home button ?
great comparison! awesome video ✨
Regarding function keys, id rather bump my finger into the screen. I dont understand why all reviewers make it such a big case. Its not like you use them for typing. I can just slide my finger in to adjust brightness/volume/lock screen rather than reaching physical buttons on my ipad.
But the Logitech isn’t even available for the Pro, right? I wouldn’t be making my iPad purchase based on the keyboard.
TravelingSolo good point
I do think logisch will make one for the pro though
That’s basically how it will be in the future. People will be buying an iPad for their keyboard case. That’s how big of a deal these cases are.
Isengardtom The old iPad form factor will get phased out soon enough, so it’s only a matter of time before they shift their focus.
“Soon enough” being a relative term when it comes to product cycles, of course.
Press like button before watching the video! Amazing work form Vadim as always!
Comparing apples and pears. Does Logitech make an iPad Pro 2020 keyboard case?
The Logitech keyboard would be my choice. It has more features and provides better protection.
The pass through USB-C charging feature that apple gave the magic Keyboard they are the 2nd brand to do that. Google did it first with their crappy google pixel slate keyboard with USB-C
Regardless of the price, I think the Logitech keyboard is better primarily because it doubles as a case as well if you'd ever want to use your iPad as, well, an iPad.. For the Magic keyboard you're basically stuck with having to use the iPad naked when you detach it from the keyboard, you could use a case although having to install and remove it from a case everytime you want to use a keyboard just seems ridiculous.. And as JerryRigEverythings' durability test of the iPad Pro has demonstrated, it definitely needs a case for protection..
As an artist 💁🏽♀️, I would use the case that low 🙋🏽♀️😊
I agree with some of the other comments. These two cases are for two different iPads. Nice video but it isn’t helpful if I’m trying to find a cheaper alternative to the magic keyboard for my ipad 11 pro. I looked for the Logitech combo plus for the iPad 11 pro 2020 and they don’t have it. Do you think they’ll make it soon? It’s a damn nice keyboard and if they keep the same price ill get it for sure.
I’m almost 100% sure that the reason there is no Combo Touch for the iPad Pro is because Apple wants the Magic Keyboard to be the only option with a trackpad that uses the smart connector. If that’s true, then 100% won’t get a Logitech Combo for the iPad Pro. Your other best choice is to go with the Brydge Pro Plus for $200 which uses Bluetooth and comes with other reliability issues. -Vadim
Max Tech if I was Logitech I’ll make one anyway even without MFI certification. There’s plenty of things that aren’t MFI certified that still work, or use bluetooth connectivity. I don’t think Apple can decide what another company can and cannot make. They can deny certification but Logitech is a pretty reliable company I don’t think they need it right? The MFI certification is just so customers know they can trust the product is it not? Anyway I really hope someone comes up with a cheaper option. I’m sure a Chinese clone is coming soon.
just realized that it's Logitech Folio Touch not Combo Touch. Combo touch is for Air 3 or iPad 2020. but it's good review of Magic keyboard and Folio Touch
can’t afford to buy any of these but still watching. quarantine fact....😖
I have the Khomo case with a pen holder and combined with apple Smart Keyboard..best option:)
Good thing that there is a solid option for the iPad Pro 10.5 since Brydge and Apple don't care. The 11" has been given all the attention. Definitely gonna keep my pro at least till the the real next iPad Pro is released with that beefy new chip.
Great video, thanks!
I have the Logitech for my iPad Air 3 and love it. The Apple Magic looks very nice though. I think the Logitech has better iPad Air/Pro 10.5” protection.
I also have the iPad Air 3 but I just use the Smart Keyboard
Just wish the Apple Magic Keyboard would had a function keys. But that it could be added in the control panel to adjust the back light keys.
Bro pls when did the Logitech keyboard for 12.9 inch is released let me know
It’s coming out by the end of this month!!!
Do you think the Logitech case will come out for the iPad pro anytime soon?
Is Logitech combo touch for 12.9 inch ipad pro two
There’s finally one out for the pro model!
And it’s thinner too.
Yo max love your videos but try some laptops too as the season is of a new semester.
The best iPad keyboard case design was the Logitech CREATE Folio for iPad Pro 9.7! The should really design a CREATE Folio for iPad Pro/Air 10.5!
What about the Brydge Pro + keyboard for a comparison?
It’s been delayed by a month so we will definitely make that video when we get it.
Max Tech thanks! I was thinking of getting it since I like that you can expand it to 180°, and I can flip the keyboard and use it with the case closed. I put scripts on mine for shows and having it always open like the iPad Pro wouldn’t work.
Why they didn’t just wait another month for the logictech to make the same model for the ipadpro cause most of Maxes reason become really abundant
:edit Does it matter that the magic keyboard has a usb c port? Its 300 bucks compared to the 150 bucks and a 9 dollar dongle, do the math and... one drop with the “Magic!” keyboard and its toast compared to the logic tech combo with the rubber ring
Sorry Vadim, I think you’re somewhat wrong on some of your remarks. I will be buying the iPad Pro WITH the Logitech keyboard. The”jean” material is way more durable and resistant that that “premium” rubber on the magic keyboard, witch overtime starts peeling and looks awful. The “floating” design looks good and all, but leave the iPad completely exposed to dents and scratches.
Great video!! Is the camera comparison coming out today?
Would you really base your iPad choice on what kind of case you can get for it?
Wouldn't you pick which iPad suits you better and then get the keyboard case?
I would love a Magic Keyboard with track pad for the 7th gen that I have, but I'm stuck with getting Logitech. Which is not bad either.
Yeah but like for you why would you get a case that costs more than your iPad. At that point you’d prob have money to get the better iPad too
This is one of the finest video comparisons I've seen in past for anything, I came just because I sew the Masterplan video and I loved the guy on the video, Sorry I don't know your name but I just love the way you compare everything. He pointed out every detail and you should buy which one as well👏 Well done oh boy✨
No, he is biased as hell
Would u recomend the 11 inch or 12.9 ipad pro and magic keyboard or base mac air for a university student doing economics. I may do light video or photo editing in the future.
Hiten MacBook Air, no question. The iPad OS software just isn’t as full featured as Mac OS software. Try the Microsoft office suite apps to see what I mean. PowerPoint (which is commonly used to prepare presentations in school and in the workplace) is severely gimped on the iPad compared to the same desktop app. iPads are great secondary tools and may be a very useful tool if you love to take handwritten notes or all of your books are distributed electronically. If that isn’t you, get the MacBook Air. I don’t think you would regret your decision.
@@jasonswitzer1748 yes and no macros on excel, for economy class it's a no deal
What are the function keys for on the Logitech?
most people that want to buy a keyboard case, they usually already have an ipad. So basically it doesn’t matter which better but they have to fit with their on ipad... . ( except you haven’t bought an ipad either... )
I like logitech combo touch more.This logitech keyboard supports touchpad plus connects to device via magnetic smart connector which is more accurate ,best in response,and much lighter and also lack of battery issue than bluetooth keyboard. Also it has function keys and much wider range of viewing angle that we can feel like using a laptop. The keyboard can also be removed if you want it to use as tablet mode, and the case still covers the device. But i wish to produce logitech combo touch for ipad pro 2018 and 2020 with more USB C built in keyboard. And more reasonable price than magic keyboard.👍
Am I missing something? Why compare keyboards for two different Ipads... may as well threw in the Surface Pro
What's the point comparing the thickness of the 2 cases when they contain different iPads?
iPad 10.2 is thicker by itself than iPad Pro, how could its case be the opposite?
The ipad pro is much more powerful, that's why the logitech case could be skipping, but I could be wrong.
Totally Agree! 💯
That's an interesting idea. It should be easy to test with an iPad Air which can use that Logitech case, but also uses a substantially faster CPU.
Thanks for not attacking me. They should have used the ipad air.
I tested it on my iPad Pro 10.5, and it seems really responsive. Might be due to the higher refresh rate display.
@@therell totally, I forgot about that.
I think the problem with this comparison is that you're not deciding between two keyboards, at least Im not. Im deciding between two ipads and their keyboards, and as you said at the end of the video: youre spending more than twice for the ipad pro and the magic keyboard.
And for me the most importante things are the protection (that does not offer the magic keyboard) , the functionality(remember you can retire the keyboard in logitechs), function keys and durability. All this by paying less than half than the other.
as someone that's 6'7 I'd definitely use it that far leaned back
What wallpaper are you running on your 2020 pro? I need it!
The comparison using the least expensive iPad is OK, but using the iPad Air with the Logitech Combo Touch would be a better comparison. iPad Air 256GB with Combo Touch is $800.00.
Very informative vid but how can you really compare a Maserati to a Honda Civic?
Thanks for this review. Has helped.
Great video
Logitech option is definitely nice too, but I do love that magic keyboard
Please make surface Pro 7 vs apple pro