I'm living in Shanghai. Also I'm building guitars so I got in contact with the guys who built this beauty. In China they call themselves Fllyoung and, actually this is Firefly factory. They mastered they work and their quality is better then Epiphone and now days Gibsons.
That is amazing. I would love to chat sometime about this. I am looking for the absolute best manufacturer from China to recommend to my viewer's. A manufacturer that is very consistent. If there is any way that I could contact them it would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to shoot me a email. bakerpercussion@gmail.com. The quality of my last few are simply outstanding. I'm wondering if they are from the same manufacturer? The decals over the logo said LS custom shop. Thanks for the information. And thanks for watching!
it's sad that certain older guitar makers have let their quality slip so far that these knockoffs are equal or better quality at like 1/8th the price. @@thomaskinne2357
I own a couple Custom Gibson Les Paul guitars as well as a couple Chibsons, IMHO, they are both worth the money paid for them. I found a Music Store on Ali Express that built me a Les Paul to 1959 specifications. I supplied a laundry list of how I wanted the guitar built and they delivered. 1-Piece body, 1-piece neck, long neck tenon and a flamed veneer top, its pretty great. I had the guitar delivered with no pickups, electronics, tuners or bridge, just a finished husk. I was able to install actual Kluson tuners as well as real Gibson ABR-1 bridge and tailpiece. The guitar was finished in nitrocellulose lacquer. IMHO the guitar turned out excellent and was worth every Penny. This Ace Frehley Les Paul is crazy, looks like real fun to play. Cool Content, count me as a new Subscriber.
Thanks brother. They are definitely worth it when you can find good ones. Seems the majority are pretty decent in 2023. They have come a long way for sure. I have another on the way. Fingers crossed. Welcome aboard. It's good to have you here🙂
@@FultonStreetBeats Glad to be here. Yeah, with Ali Express full satisfaction guarantee you can’t go wrong. When I asked for the long neck tenon I had to explain with photos what I wanted, the additional cost was only $15! If only Gibson could match that price…LOL I’ve ordered three (3) custom build guitars, if the build quality is good the only other problem is the fret wire material, it’s the same Epiphone uses. And to be honest, I ordered my instruments only partially completed, I mounted all the hardware, did the wiring and then leveled the fret followed by crowning, polish and complete setup. The guitars I ended up with are fantastic (IMO). It was a really fun exercise which allowed me to own custom guitars I otherwise couldn’t/wouldn’t afford. 👍😉
My Chibson Heritage Cherry Sunburst 60's Les Paul Standard is AWESOME! All I changed is the Tuning keys to Grover Vintage Deluxe, a Graphite nut, and the pickups to Alnico 5 Pro Humbuckers. Solid guitar, could'nt be happier!
Okay. I just got my Ace LP a few days ago, purchased from the same seller. This is not a hit piece. But, I do think it's important to give everyone the full spectrum of what to expect. The face of the headstock is perfect. You can tell that they spent time on getting the trademark of the instrument just right. It does sound good, and the each setting on the 3-way is a unique sound and provides a good pallet of tones. I checked the pots and they are also large-sized. No complaints about the nut or the tuners. I had a couple of wonky frets that weren't dressed very well and a couple that were just barely high, not really an issue. However, due to the two mis-dressed ones, I went ahead with a leveling and polishing. I'm not a guru on fret metals, but these filed pretty easily, I don't believe mine are steel. I'm also not sure what the fingerboard is made of. If it's wood, it is below a coating of some kind of plastic. The good news is that you'll never had to worry about oiling it, because it will not absorb anything. It feels fine, it's no mark against it, and the inlays do look pretty tight and good. Electronically, everything functions well. Except, the output jack doesn't hold the cable and it's just fallen out a couple of times. I'll likely have to replace the jack, not a big deal. I've many budget friendly guitars from odd brands and to replace a few pieces of hardware is to be expected. Now, my complaint. The clear coat is horrible. I did get a sweet scent of nitro when I opened the very weird styrofoam packaging, and paired with the nature of the issue, I believe it is a nitro finish. However, about 20 percent of the finish has very bad orange peel and some considerable sagging runs. Behind the headstock, multiple places on the neck, all around the where the neck joins the body, and consistently around the edge of the guitar. Especially in the cutaway. I've debated whether to return it, but decided today to proceed with the fret dressing and just keep it. After all, I did purchase it mainly as a 3-D poster of something cool, and will definitely serve that purpose as well is quite playable. I am really disappointed in the finish. I hope this helps give people some useful data, and as FSB did say, they likely will not be all the same.
Thank you for the update... Hopefully this provides more of a spectrum of what to expect if purchasing one. It's alway best to show the good and the bad. Thanks for sharing brother!
Just to update this, I did reach out to the seller with my concerns and we had some back and forth after I left a respectful yet honest review on their website. They offered me a discount on my NEXT purchase in exchange for the comment being changed. I proposed we not work on the next order, but make this one satisfactory. They offered me $20, and I said I'd more motivated for $30. I updated the comment while keeping it honest. I just reworded things where it didn't read like a stomping ball buster while still letting the reader know to be careful on what to expect.
I have two of these and they're gorgeous if you like very sparkly guitars with a neck thickness much like a big 50's Gibson round c neck.The neck profile on these remind of an early Gibson Joe Perry Signature Les Paul I once owned or one of my old 50's Les pauls. One of my Ace bluebursts has a double stamped serial number .It has two different but similar serial numbers 🤣 It's not very obvious at first but if you turn it just the right way it's very obvious Yes it's a poly finish.The metal flake finish alone would cost hundreds of dollars in the USA . Shame these don't have fret nibs. I replaced the bridge on one of mine with a bit more adjustment due to the fact the guitar didn't seem to intonate well at first, but a good nut fixed the problem 👍
I just ordered one of these after your reviews. I like it because it's obvious I am not trying to pass it off as the real deal and, whilst I have a whole collection of real Les Pauls, I missed the boat on the original Ace Frehley ones, so this will be a bit of fun to own. I'll put a Super Distortion in there, and replace other bits as needed. I imagine pots, tuners, switch etc. will all need to go, so I think it'll be a project guitar, which is fun.
What's nice about this one is Gibson never put this ACE style into production. Only Ace got the prototypes. They did make a subdued Epiphone version though. The Gibsons you see for sale are made to look like this by other people. Gibson never did it. So it makes it even cooler 😎
Damn!!! Link says page is missing! Don't have time right now to further my search but hopefully I can find it.. really impressed with this guitar, I know there's a chance I won't find it or that the one I get won't be as high quality but I'm still probably going to see if I can find it down the road. Great vids keep em coming!!
Found another seller (of the many with this particular guitar) it's the only one I've found with the sparkle pup covers so might give it a shot they have a lot of previous sales with good feedback going to do a little bit more investigating and then maybe pull the trigger
I wouldn’t be surprised if the big surprise is…. That China has finally rose to a level of production that exceeds American guitar companies at this point. I paid 2500 for a jazz bass custom flame top (Corona Cali American made), And I prefer my 89 Japanese fender jazz bass special. Yes, this Ace Frehley Chibson guitar is NOT trash…. $300 to $3000 in a couple years….???
I got one of these and can tell you a few things. I paid $300. Yes, it’s poly-urethane. The fretboard is not ebony or rosewood. Not sure what it is but it’s rougher than ebony and rosewood and it’s dyed. The nut was plastic. The pots were so small, it was comical. I changed them out with CTS and upgraded wiring. The switch and input jack are ok, but definitely worth upgrading because it’s so cheap to just get Switchcraft. The binding, neck, headstock, frets, and inlays were impressive. The fake Grover tuners were terrible and worth upgrading. The backplate for the switch literally spelled “historic” wrong. The stock pickups on mine were cream colored and sounded horrific. I upgraded to Dimarzio Super Distortion in the bridge position and Dimarzio PAF for the neck and middle. The stock strings were like cheese cutters, horrific. Immediately changed those. I put a new bridge in, but left the stock tailpiece on there. The body was definitely mahogany with a maple cap. Impressed with that. But my pickup cavities were a bit chipped and shoddy. Routing cavities were good. After my upgrades, this guitar sounded and felt amazing. Had to file the sharp edges of frets down, but that’s ok. Got a Hardcase Gibson chainsaw case with blue interior. Fun project and a great guitar to play. If you want to hear it, check out online or streaming, look for artist Iron Rob Lewandowski and the song “Son of Perdition”.
the blue sparkle really carries the huge ace rocknroll persona, one of the greats of all time. an amateur luthier buddy of mine likes the burst better, the trademark ace blue is more appropriate to the tribute imo.
I'm nowhere near ordering an ace frehley, I hope it doesn't turn out as bad as I've read in the comments, thanks for the info and encouraging me to order it, greetings from Mexico.
I think some rich Chinese bought Ace's guitar then went to the best Luthiers in his area to recreate the thing. They are somehow known to go these extents for falsifying stuff but yeah that guitar is exceptional indeed. Congratulations on your find.
Mike, This Ace guitar is really put together well, I'm very impressed how clean the routing in the cavities are and the wiring is all in great order. I was not expecting to see the large pots in a Chibson so that was a nice surprise.
A note on Frehley: They one he owns and plays is supposedly a custom shop built guitar with a proper serial number. Gibson has a vault with just about Any Prototype guitar design between production and artist models ( at least this is what I was told when I started at Gibson, though I my self have never been in this room, When I can visit it I will confirm this)
I've got a Chibson! At first I hated it! Than after fixing it up I now love it! Thanks 😊 mine was supposed to be a Gary Moore! It didn't look anything like Greene! Now after I got done it really doesn't look like Greene! But it plays and sounds great now!
Just got one for $268 shipped ('transparent black'/grey burst). No case. I couldn't buy the parts to build this myself for less money, so I'm amazed how they can build this and ship it from China in two weeks so inexpensively. I probably spent that much on my last kit build just on nitrocellulose paint. The frets are in better shape than the last Fender Players Edition Tele I purchased from Guitar Center for 2.5x the price. Yep, the back switch plate says 'Hstorc' instead of 'Historic', but I'm OK with that. Tuners are shit, but I actually like the pickups so far.
I have the exact one on order before they sold out. Unfortunately it will take 2 months to got get here. Enjoy your videos of this guitar, great detail. Looking forward to more reviews.
I don’t even like kiss or Ace, but that guitar looks cool. It’s what a RockStar guitar should look like. When you showed the back of the neck, it Glowed!! 👀👀👀
This is a really nice guitar. Your seller does not have any more, unfortunately. I am happy to have seen this though. I will keep watching out for one that may have the same quality as this one! Thanks for sharing your experience!
I really like the guitar. Flashy, yes it is. However, come on, it's Ace they are replicating and nailed it. Thanks for showing the guts of it. Got a sub and like from me mate.
Picked up a Fernandes/Burny Chibson from a Japan eBayer last year. AAA Unburst flame top, flame on the mahogany neck, and a Kahler, and I absolutley love it... I'd rather play it than my '96 Joe Perry Custom Shop.
I wish they would make a Jimmy Page B-Bender Telecaster:) Chibson, if you're listening, Jimmy Page played a B-Bender Tele and we cant get one for under 2 grand!
Mike Hello this a great video, but do you mind sharing if the sparkle in the pick up’s was placed like that by your self, or the guitar came like this way. And the chrome mirror style, pickup guard and pickups supports, ¿came like this? or ¿you added all this beautiful details?
if you look carefully at the sellers’ pics, some show all chrome- or metal- finished hardware, others show white finish. at about a $40 difference in the price. i haven’t purchased yet, waiting for that clip on how to spec order comes out…
Ace didn't even have a prototype. A guy from "Les Poul forum" profile name "Jimmy Ace" had the sparkle blue burst made by Gibson Custom Shop. It had silver nickel truss rod cover and pick up covers. Ace ended up buying it via a friend and he played it in VH 2006 KISS celebration. Rob Zombie, Slash, Tommy Lee, Ace and a couple others played "God of Thunder" He also plays it on the DVD "Behind the Player" and ended up selling it to create money for making "Anomaly" I had one made in 2015 by Rare Guitars and replaced pickups and electronics and headstock was painted like "Anomaly" with Ace Frehley name on.
I built my own Les Paul from a kit and it is an exceptional guitar with all the right parts. Its very comparable to my 2015 Gibson Les Paul. Its lighter and its a go to guitar too.
I just got this same guitar yesterday and I was blown away at the finish....just wondering though, my truss rod cover is actually backwards, so the Les Paul sig is backwards. Any idea where I could get a replacement that looks the same?
I guess I never really thought about it before: how do they get that diagonal channel for the wires? Is it one long ass drill bit? Thru the input, thru the control cavity, the pickup wells, and clear up to the switch? One clean shot? Is that really how they do that?
Also, I pick chicken, about as far as it gets from Kiss. And even with that, your guitar is breathtaking. It looks like a rich dude's bass boat. Effing gorgeous.
I think CNC has made it possible for builders to spend more time on the details and companies want to put their names on increasingly good product as the market gets more competitive. when 1 buyer wants stainless steel frets on their guitars it's probably cheaper for the builder to put it on other guitars instead of having to keep more parts organized in the factory... Hey! that bridge pickup has a nickel silver baseplate... on a chibson!
When upgrading a Chibson, what parts are compatible with it? Gibson or Epiphone parts? For instance, will a Gibson AB1 bridge fit without any alteration or do I need to get an Epiphone replacement? Any tips would be much appreciated, Thanks.
They make adaptors to run a Gibson AB1 bridge. The holes for the stud posts are larger on Asian guitars. Most things are compatible with some tweeking. The SG compatibility is a bit more difficult with pickguards but can still be done with modifications. As far as pots and wiring goes. The only thing that will not work is the drop in plates. The hole spacing is a bit different. But if your just going old school Gibson pots, they fit fine. I use the plug and play Epiphone probuckers on lots of guitars, and they have push pull pots. I get them on Amazon cheap. But you may have to enlarge the wire routing hole a bit to fit the plugs. Amazing kit though. Here's the link. amzn.to/3OTfnc1 super cheap and everything you need.
@@FultonStreetBeats Thanks for the link. Yeah, the Epiphone Probuckers are $99 for 2. I need 3 for my SG, so I'd have to buy 2 sets. Not a problem. If I go the Gibson route, the 57 Classic Plus pickups (gold) are $169.00 a pop !!! Times 3 is $507.00 !!! OUCH. Epiphone is good !!!
sweet guitar brother! seems the imports are put together as good maybe even better than the big G or even the big F lol! the big names might need to improve themselves before they possibly lose sales due to QC issues "overlooked"........
Hello! Fews months back I bought a new guitar, but I don't have enough experience to set it up, I don't even know what to look for, intonation is problem on b and g string, its either good from 1 to 8 and then terrible from 9 to 22 or the other way around, action is high but i dont know if i adjust on saddle or truss rod, i dont know if the neck is straight or curved, I don't have any experience, what do you think I should do? I don't wanna get a pro to see it, cause I'd have to transport it so far away, since theres no guitar shops nearby. G and B string also go out of tune when i bend (ps: i'm an intermediate guitarist, i just dont know how to setup) , maybe a bad nut? and also Sick chibson, they're so much better now.
It looks well done, well done, indeed. That said, it has the most gaudy finish I've ever seen on a guitar! LOL Not sure which is more gaudy, this one or the Tommy Thayer model!!
Lol. I can see why some would think that. Then some of us absolutely love the finish. Seeing ACE's prototype under stage lights for the first time was amazing. I always needed one after that. This is as close as I can get. 🙂
@@dbspecials1200 I've been thinking of purchasing an iceman replica. I stupidly pawned my actual ibanez iceman several years back for like $200 and now they go for like $1000... 🤦♂️
I keep seeing this time and time again with the quality of workmanship of most things you can buy today (For the price) . It saddens me that our country seems to be more focused on profit and political BS than working together to be the best in the world... Nice Guitar! I have managed to ween myself off of my addiction .. for now.. LOL. I tried to justify buying them to have all the colors, then for the styles.. LMAO! I love all of my artwork 😉
Epiphone made one. Gibson did not. But the Epiphone was not as bling as the prototype Gibson made for ACE. Many actual Gibsons have been modified to look like the prototype (artist proofs). However, Gibson never produced the guitar. They went with Ace Frehley Budokan instead.
@@FultonStreetBeats you’re 100% right it was an Epiphone model. But Epiphone is owned by Gibson that’s what was in my head. I’ve seen Ace use his Gibson in concert. By the way I just found your channel and subscribed. Really good content.
Im going to get a fake esp (Kirk Hammett ouija)... Then, imma scrape off the esp logo and brand it my own, seeing as it's not really an esp ... Sucks, but yea, don't mind making it my own ...👍👍👍
Anyone know if they are using Ace’s name legally and he’s getting his cut? I’m not done with the video yet but if you didn’t mention it I’d like to know what it cost?
Luckily, they didn't use his name (Paul Daniel Frehley) it definitely doesn't have a nice ring to it. Lol. It's a little over 300 bucks. BTW. Thanks for watching.
What you could improve in the future if you take your time to make a video like this is lightning, it would be a much better video if we actually can see what you are talking about when it comes to routing cavity and such.. other than that, great video. Cheers.
I'm 41. I've only ever been able to afford the 890 les paul and it was shitty let's be real so I resold it back to guitar center. However. This guitar...seems really freaking good for the money either way. So I can't wait to get one. U less someone is going to buy me a 2900 dollar real les paul than MIND YOUR FKN BUISNESS
I Bought a Black Beauty if a Guy Passed it off as a Gibson Custom black beauty and was sick to find out it wasn't.buyer beware.but if this isn't near what I paid for the chibson black beauty I may get one because Gibson is really pricy and I don't care that it's a chibson as long as it looks and plays and sounds great
Les Paul's are too expensive now. It's like buying a car. I'm thinking of hunting one of these down in a tobacco burst. I'll put some Seymour Duncan's in it. It's worth a try.
Ah but they ARE charging a premium price, just over $300 USD. that's the higher end of the spectrum for Chibsons..and isn't it wonderful? what an easy thing to just flip on to the credit card.
Been playing 50+ years, yeah I'm old! I've played awesome inexpensive and awesome expensive and I've played horrible inexpensive and horrible inexpensive gtrs. I own several Chinese knock-offs. You have to be careful. Buy from a seller with good ratings. Quality is definitely getting better! Chinese gtrs are a modders dream! If you can get a quality piece of wood and a quality base then you're going to be happy. If you're not into doing your own mods Chinese gtrs are not for you.
A lot of the sellers are here today gone later today that's why its generally pointless providing or recommending a seller. The reason is it makes it harder for them to be tracked remember they are selling counterfeits and that's illegal even in China.
I'm living in Shanghai. Also I'm building guitars so I got in contact with the guys who built this beauty.
In China they call themselves Fllyoung and, actually this is Firefly factory. They mastered they work and their quality is better then Epiphone and now days Gibsons.
That is amazing. I would love to chat sometime about this. I am looking for the absolute best manufacturer from China to recommend to my viewer's. A manufacturer that is very consistent. If there is any way that I could contact them it would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to shoot me a email. bakerpercussion@gmail.com. The quality of my last few are simply outstanding. I'm wondering if they are from the same manufacturer? The decals over the logo said LS custom shop. Thanks for the information. And thanks for watching!
"Quality is better then Epiphone and now days Gibsons" - No lol
it's sad that certain older guitar makers have let their quality slip so far that these knockoffs are equal or better quality at like 1/8th the price. @@thomaskinne2357
Long live firefly factory!
What I do like is that the haters have stopped. I've had my Chibson 5 years now and its as solid as a rock !
That's good to know. I have 2 Chibsons so far, a Zakk Wylde Vertigo Les Paul and a creme Gibson SG Les Paul Custom copy with 3 pickups. I love both!
The newest versions have been nice so far. I have another on the way from a random seller on eBay. Fingers crossed 🤞
I own a couple Custom Gibson Les Paul guitars as well as a couple Chibsons, IMHO, they are both worth the money paid for them.
I found a Music Store on Ali Express that built me a Les Paul to 1959 specifications. I supplied a laundry list of how I wanted the guitar built and they delivered.
1-Piece body, 1-piece neck, long neck tenon and a flamed veneer top, its pretty great. I had the guitar delivered with no pickups, electronics, tuners or bridge, just a finished husk.
I was able to install actual Kluson tuners as well as real Gibson ABR-1 bridge and tailpiece. The guitar was finished in nitrocellulose lacquer. IMHO the guitar turned out excellent and was worth every Penny.
This Ace Frehley Les Paul is crazy, looks like real fun to play.
Cool Content, count me as a new Subscriber.
Thanks brother. They are definitely worth it when you can find good ones. Seems the majority are pretty decent in 2023. They have come a long way for sure. I have another on the way. Fingers crossed. Welcome aboard. It's good to have you here🙂
@@FultonStreetBeats Glad to be here.
Yeah, with Ali Express full satisfaction guarantee you can’t go wrong. When I asked for the long neck tenon I had to explain with photos what I wanted, the additional cost was only $15! If only Gibson could match that price…LOL
I’ve ordered three (3) custom build guitars, if the build quality is good the only other problem is the fret wire material, it’s the same Epiphone uses.
And to be honest, I ordered my instruments only partially completed, I mounted all the hardware, did the wiring and then leveled the fret followed by crowning, polish and complete setup. The guitars I ended up with are fantastic (IMO). It was a really fun exercise which allowed me to own custom guitars I otherwise couldn’t/wouldn’t afford. 👍😉
My Chibson Heritage Cherry Sunburst 60's Les Paul Standard is AWESOME! All I changed is the Tuning keys to Grover Vintage Deluxe, a Graphite nut, and the pickups to Alnico 5 Pro Humbuckers. Solid guitar, could'nt be happier!
Gonna Buy one of these Ace model. Cool!
DUDE that thing is MEGA KOOL!!!!!!!!!! Thanks!!! For the passion!
My pleasure my brother 🙏
Okay. I just got my Ace LP a few days ago, purchased from the same seller. This is not a hit piece. But, I do think it's important to give everyone the full spectrum of what to expect. The face of the headstock is perfect. You can tell that they spent time on getting the trademark of the instrument just right. It does sound good, and the each setting on the 3-way is a unique sound and provides a good pallet of tones. I checked the pots and they are also large-sized. No complaints about the nut or the tuners.
I had a couple of wonky frets that weren't dressed very well and a couple that were just barely high, not really an issue. However, due to the two mis-dressed ones, I went ahead with a leveling and polishing. I'm not a guru on fret metals, but these filed pretty easily, I don't believe mine are steel. I'm also not sure what the fingerboard is made of. If it's wood, it is below a coating of some kind of plastic. The good news is that you'll never had to worry about oiling it, because it will not absorb anything. It feels fine, it's no mark against it, and the inlays do look pretty tight and good.
Electronically, everything functions well. Except, the output jack doesn't hold the cable and it's just fallen out a couple of times. I'll likely have to replace the jack, not a big deal. I've many budget friendly guitars from odd brands and to replace a few pieces of hardware is to be expected.
Now, my complaint. The clear coat is horrible. I did get a sweet scent of nitro when I opened the very weird styrofoam packaging, and paired with the nature of the issue, I believe it is a nitro finish. However, about 20 percent of the finish has very bad orange peel and some considerable sagging runs. Behind the headstock, multiple places on the neck, all around the where the neck joins the body, and consistently around the edge of the guitar. Especially in the cutaway. I've debated whether to return it, but decided today to proceed with the fret dressing and just keep it. After all, I did purchase it mainly as a 3-D poster of something cool, and will definitely serve that purpose as well is quite playable. I am really disappointed in the finish.
I hope this helps give people some useful data, and as FSB did say, they likely will not be all the same.
Thank you for the update... Hopefully this provides more of a spectrum of what to expect if purchasing one. It's alway best to show the good and the bad. Thanks for sharing brother!
You could do a little wet sand and buffing on finish
Like anything produced, some people have good days and bad. Hopefully my guitar is done on a good day.
@@Redwwave True, glad to hear it’s nitro and not poly.
Just to update this, I did reach out to the seller with my concerns and we had some back and forth after I left a respectful yet honest review on their website. They offered me a discount on my NEXT purchase in exchange for the comment being changed. I proposed we not work on the next order, but make this one satisfactory. They offered me $20, and I said I'd more motivated for $30. I updated the comment while keeping it honest. I just reworded things where it didn't read like a stomping ball buster while still letting the reader know to be careful on what to expect.
I have two of these and they're gorgeous if you like very sparkly guitars with a neck thickness much like a big 50's Gibson round c neck.The neck profile on these remind of an early Gibson Joe Perry Signature Les Paul I once owned or one of my old 50's Les pauls.
One of my Ace bluebursts has a double stamped serial number .It has two different but similar serial numbers 🤣
It's not very obvious at first but if you turn it just the right way it's very obvious
Yes it's a poly finish.The metal flake finish alone would cost hundreds of dollars in the USA .
Shame these don't have fret nibs.
I replaced the bridge on one of mine with a bit more adjustment due to the fact the guitar didn't seem to intonate well at first, but a good nut fixed the problem 👍
I just ordered one of these after your reviews. I like it because it's obvious I am not trying to pass it off as the real deal and, whilst I have a whole collection of real Les Pauls, I missed the boat on the original Ace Frehley ones, so this will be a bit of fun to own. I'll put a Super Distortion in there, and replace other bits as needed. I imagine pots, tuners, switch etc. will all need to go, so I think it'll be a project guitar, which is fun.
What's nice about this one is Gibson never put this ACE style into production. Only Ace got the prototypes. They did make a subdued Epiphone version though. The Gibsons you see for sale are made to look like this by other people. Gibson never did it. So it makes it even cooler 😎
Damn!!! Link says page is missing! Don't have time right now to further my search but hopefully I can find it.. really impressed with this guitar, I know there's a chance I won't find it or that the one I get won't be as high quality but I'm still probably going to see if I can find it down the road. Great vids keep em coming!!
Found another seller (of the many with this particular guitar) it's the only one I've found with the sparkle pup covers so might give it a shot they have a lot of previous sales with good feedback going to do a little bit more investigating and then maybe pull the trigger
I wouldn’t be surprised if the big surprise is…. That China has finally rose to a level of production that exceeds American guitar companies at this point. I paid 2500 for a jazz bass custom flame top (Corona Cali American made), And I prefer my 89 Japanese fender jazz bass special. Yes, this Ace Frehley Chibson guitar is NOT trash…. $300 to $3000 in a couple years….???
I got one of these and can tell you a few things. I paid $300. Yes, it’s poly-urethane. The fretboard is not ebony or rosewood. Not sure what it is but it’s rougher than ebony and rosewood and it’s dyed. The nut was plastic. The pots were so small, it was comical. I changed them out with CTS and upgraded wiring. The switch and input jack are ok, but definitely worth upgrading because it’s so cheap to just get Switchcraft. The binding, neck, headstock, frets, and inlays were impressive. The fake Grover tuners were terrible and worth upgrading. The backplate for the switch literally spelled “historic” wrong. The stock pickups on mine were cream colored and sounded horrific. I upgraded to Dimarzio Super Distortion in the bridge position and Dimarzio PAF for the neck and middle. The stock strings were like cheese cutters, horrific. Immediately changed those. I put a new bridge in, but left the stock tailpiece on there. The body was definitely mahogany with a maple cap. Impressed with that. But my pickup cavities were a bit chipped and shoddy. Routing cavities were good. After my upgrades, this guitar sounded and felt amazing. Had to file the sharp edges of frets down, but that’s ok. Got a Hardcase Gibson chainsaw case with blue interior. Fun project and a great guitar to play. If you want to hear it, check out online or streaming, look for artist Iron Rob Lewandowski and the song “Son of Perdition”.
I don't mind the cherry burst finish but,that blue sparkle is eye catching 👍
the blue sparkle really carries the huge ace rocknroll persona, one of the greats of all time. an amateur luthier buddy of mine likes the burst better, the trademark ace blue is more appropriate to the tribute imo.
That is WAY to flashy! I love it. I don't like the fact that it's a law suite but it is what it is. 🤟🔥
That's beautiful. No argument about that at all. Stunning guitar .
I'm nowhere near ordering an ace frehley, I hope it doesn't turn out as bad as I've read in the comments, thanks for the info and encouraging me to order it, greetings from Mexico.
I have the metallic purple/rose colored one. I'd rate it just as good as what you've got there.
I think some rich Chinese bought Ace's guitar then went to the best Luthiers in his area to recreate the thing. They are somehow known to go these extents for falsifying stuff but yeah that guitar is exceptional indeed. Congratulations on your find.
Mike, This Ace guitar is really put together well, I'm very impressed how clean the routing in the cavities are and the wiring is all in great order. I was not expecting to see the large pots in a Chibson so that was a nice surprise.
Definitely on top of the list as far as replicas go. Surprised me also. Thanks for watching Nick🙂
A note on Frehley: They one he owns and plays is supposedly a custom shop built guitar with a proper serial number. Gibson has a vault with just about Any Prototype guitar design between production and artist models ( at least this is what I was told when I started at Gibson, though I my self have never been in this room, When I can visit it I will confirm this)
I just bought the space blue sparkle Ace guitar today…. and I am fucking stoked. Can’t wait to bend some wires…
I've got a Chibson! At first I hated it! Than after fixing it up I now love it! Thanks 😊 mine was supposed to be a Gary Moore! It didn't look anything like Greene! Now after I got done it really doesn't look like Greene! But it plays and sounds great now!
Great video! Thanks to the author for making and sharing!😘
My lord that thing is Gawdy.....LOVE IT!!!! heavy flake rules....doesnt get used nearly enough
How can I get this guitar?
I love mine. Thanks for turning me on to the instrument. I bought it from the same folks you did.
Nice to here you got a good one also! Thanks for watching!
How did you find them? I want this guitar, but when I. follow his link it says "Not found"
@@AceAskin You'll find one.
Just got one for $268 shipped ('transparent black'/grey burst). No case. I couldn't buy the parts to build this myself for less money, so I'm amazed how they can build this and ship it from China in two weeks so inexpensively. I probably spent that much on my last kit build just on nitrocellulose paint. The frets are in better shape than the last Fender Players Edition Tele I purchased from Guitar Center for 2.5x the price. Yep, the back switch plate says 'Hstorc' instead of 'Historic', but I'm OK with that. Tuners are shit, but I actually like the pickups so far.
Love it. I have two Ace Frehley Chibsons. I put alnico 2 pickups in them. They are awesome. Rock on bro
Thanks Brother 🙂
Did you put alnico pickups in both, the bridge and neck positions?
@@jameslanclos568 I replaced all the pickups with alnico 2s
@@jameslanclos568 they are all factory pickups.
So you are the guy who has mine. 😏
I have the exact one on order before they sold out. Unfortunately it will take 2 months to got get here. Enjoy your videos of this guitar, great detail. Looking forward to more reviews.
Thank you🙂
Mine's coming today so wish me luck. I hope it's as nice as yours.
Let us know. Very excited for you brother!
HI, where can I get one of the Ace Frehley Blue Sparkle Les Paul
All of my guitars are knock offs and they all play great! I have an Oscar Schmidt Les Paul that plays great too
Awesome! Gotta add this one to the collection 😎💯💥
I've just bought my first one 🎉
I don’t even like kiss or Ace,
but that guitar looks cool.
It’s what a RockStar guitar should look like. When you showed the back of the neck, it Glowed!! 👀👀👀
This is a really nice guitar. Your seller does not have any more, unfortunately. I am happy to have seen this though. I will keep watching out for one that may have the same quality as this one! Thanks for sharing your experience!
Thank you for watching.
don't know if you got one or are still looking, the seller has 3 available right now
@@darthjsin Thanks! They are now sending me offers in eBay.
@@PrattDirkLerxst Congrats!!!
The link is not working for me don't know where to buy this guitar I don't want to get a bad one
Well it arrived and I love it. Did you get some rattling when you strum the strings and if so what's the fix? Thanks
I really like the guitar. Flashy, yes it is. However, come on, it's Ace they are replicating and nailed it. Thanks for showing the guts of it. Got a sub and like from me mate.
Thank you brother. Welcome aboard 😀
Mines just left the Chinese dock a few days ago......
Years ago, i dreamed from a ace frehley epiphone 😊
Picked up a Fernandes/Burny Chibson from a Japan eBayer last year. AAA Unburst flame top, flame on the mahogany neck, and a Kahler, and I absolutley love it...
I'd rather play it than my '96 Joe Perry Custom Shop.
I wish they would make a Jimmy Page B-Bender Telecaster:) Chibson, if you're listening, Jimmy Page played a B-Bender Tele and we cant get one for under 2 grand!
Mike Hello this a great video, but do you mind sharing if the sparkle in the pick up’s was placed like that by your self, or the guitar came like this way.
And the chrome mirror style, pickup guard and pickups supports, ¿came like this? or ¿you added all this beautiful details?
Everything came this way. Still zero mods.
if you look carefully at the sellers’ pics, some show all chrome- or metal- finished hardware, others show white finish. at about a $40 difference in the price. i haven’t purchased yet, waiting for that clip on how to spec order comes out…
Ace didn't even have a prototype. A guy from "Les Poul forum" profile name "Jimmy Ace" had the sparkle blue burst made by Gibson Custom Shop. It had silver nickel truss rod cover and pick up covers. Ace ended up buying it via a friend and he played it in VH 2006 KISS celebration.
Rob Zombie, Slash, Tommy Lee, Ace and a couple others played "God of Thunder"
He also plays it on the DVD "Behind the Player" and ended up selling it to create money for making "Anomaly"
I had one made in 2015 by Rare Guitars and replaced pickups and electronics and headstock was painted like "Anomaly" with Ace Frehley name on.
Great video. Love your narration style.
Thank you.
I built my own Les Paul from a kit and it is an exceptional guitar with all the right parts. Its very comparable to my 2015 Gibson Les Paul. Its lighter and its a go to guitar too.
Same, I hear you and I feel you hstorc, on my toggle cover as well, the chinks got the eyes wrong imagine that , fun guitar though.
Absolutely gorgeous A. F. L.P. What is the pickup configuration for the 3 way switch? Does it have coil split?
Bridge - down. Center - all three. Up - center and neck. No Coil split.
@@FultonStreetBeats Ok thanks.
I just got this same guitar yesterday and I was blown away at the finish....just wondering though, my truss rod cover is actually backwards, so the Les Paul sig is backwards. Any idea where I could get a replacement that looks the same?
Unfortunately, I don't. I would like a few extra on hand also.
Wish you would have shown a close up of the neck tenon joint under the neck pickup.
Is the finish lacquer or poly?
IMHO, If there's no indentation marks from the p'up rings, etc, then there's no doubt it's poly.
@@R3TR0R4V3 I would agree.
I guess I never really thought about it before: how do they get that diagonal channel for the wires? Is it one long ass drill bit? Thru the input, thru the control cavity, the pickup wells, and clear up to the switch? One clean shot? Is that really how they do that?
Also, I pick chicken, about as far as it gets from Kiss. And even with that, your guitar is breathtaking. It looks like a rich dude's bass boat. Effing gorgeous.
They usually cap the back over a routed center. And a capped top. Thanks for watching brother.
Hey, have you considered getting another Ace Chibson? Like his Classic budokan
I think CNC has made it possible for builders to spend more time on the details and companies want to put their names on increasingly good product as the market gets more competitive. when 1 buyer wants stainless steel frets on their guitars it's probably cheaper for the builder to put it on other guitars instead of having to keep more parts organized in the factory... Hey! that bridge pickup has a nickel silver baseplate... on a chibson!
I believe that you are correct RJ. I love budget guitars today. Its a good time for sure. Thanks for watching brother!
When upgrading a Chibson, what parts are compatible with it? Gibson or Epiphone parts? For instance, will a Gibson AB1 bridge fit without any alteration or do I need to get an Epiphone replacement? Any tips would be much appreciated, Thanks.
They make adaptors to run a Gibson AB1 bridge. The holes for the stud posts are larger on Asian guitars. Most things are compatible with some tweeking. The SG compatibility is a bit more difficult with pickguards but can still be done with modifications. As far as pots and wiring goes. The only thing that will not work is the drop in plates. The hole spacing is a bit different. But if your just going old school Gibson pots, they fit fine. I use the plug and play Epiphone probuckers on lots of guitars, and they have push pull pots. I get them on Amazon cheap. But you may have to enlarge the wire routing hole a bit to fit the plugs. Amazing kit though. Here's the link. amzn.to/3OTfnc1 super cheap and everything you need.
@@FultonStreetBeats Thanks for the link. Yeah, the Epiphone Probuckers are $99 for 2. I need 3 for my SG, so I'd have to buy 2 sets. Not a problem. If I go the Gibson route, the 57 Classic Plus pickups (gold) are $169.00 a pop !!! Times 3 is $507.00 !!! OUCH. Epiphone is good !!!
Beautiful guitar right there.👍 Subscribed
Thanks Brother!
Those frets look better than anything I have see on the www.
I've been wanting to do a detailed video on one these for over a year now, guess I don't have to now 🤣👍🤘
Hi I have a question, how do I know what kind of pickup to get for the middle pickup rout?
I want this Ace Frehley silver blue burst. How do I get one?
I just bought mine today. Who was your seller?
Any chance on a sound demo? She's pretty for sure.
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Tnx!@@FultonStreetBeats
Amen! Love it!
Thanks my brother!
Never saw the link of where this was from. Someone said Fllyoung or Firefly Factory, but I can’t find the link?
Yes... But did they give you a square jack plate...or are they still going thin on the body thickness and can only fit a stamped rectangular plate?
It's a rectangle plate, however the body is 2". right in the range of any LP.
sweet guitar brother!
seems the imports are put together as good maybe even better than the big G or even the big F lol!
the big names might need to improve themselves before they possibly lose sales due to QC issues "overlooked"........
Freaking SWEET!
Thanks Brother!
What is the link of where to purchase??
Hello! Fews months back I bought a new guitar, but I don't have enough experience to set it up, I don't even know what to look for, intonation is problem on b and g string, its either good from 1 to 8 and then terrible from 9 to 22 or the other way around, action is high but i dont know if i adjust on saddle or truss rod, i dont know if the neck is straight or curved, I don't have any experience, what do you think I should do? I don't wanna get a pro to see it, cause I'd have to transport it so far away, since theres no guitar shops nearby. G and B string also go out of tune when i bend (ps: i'm an intermediate guitarist, i just dont know how to setup) , maybe a bad nut? and also Sick chibson, they're so much better now.
I will be doing a video on complete guitar set up soon! Stay tuned!
I may buy one now pending on the cost
So cool. Where can I order? Best Regards
It looks well done, well done, indeed. That said, it has the most gaudy finish I've ever seen on a guitar! LOL Not sure which is more gaudy, this one or the Tommy Thayer model!!
Lol. I can see why some would think that. Then some of us absolutely love the finish. Seeing ACE's prototype under stage lights for the first time was amazing. I always needed one after that. This is as close as I can get. 🙂
Have you seen a Paul Stanley cracked mirror Iceman?? what a set those would make.
@@dbspecials1200
Agreed! I like the Iceman shape.
@@dbspecials1200 I've been thinking of purchasing an iceman replica. I stupidly pawned my actual ibanez iceman several years back for like $200 and now they go for like $1000... 🤦♂️
I keep seeing this time and time again with the quality of workmanship of most things you can buy today (For the price) . It saddens me that our country seems to be more focused on profit and political BS than working together to be the best in the world... Nice Guitar! I have managed to ween myself off of my addiction .. for now.. LOL. I tried to justify buying them to have all the colors, then for the styles.. LMAO! I love all of my artwork 😉
Man I got a quongdong epi custom LP probly the same factory
My latest is the iyv jz 300. Liked it so much I bought a second
Itd be nice to hear it
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Need more light inside the neck pickup pocket next time, please.
Long shaft or short shaft pots? 19:36
Hmm. Ever wonder if the Chibson is made by former Epiphone employees?
Or if Epiphone guitars are actually Chibsons but maybe a little spicy?
Gibson actually did produce this guitar. It was a limited run only available in Japan. Never sold in the USA.
Epiphone made one. Gibson did not. But the Epiphone was not as bling as the prototype Gibson made for ACE. Many actual Gibsons have been modified to look like the prototype (artist proofs). However, Gibson never produced the guitar. They went with Ace Frehley Budokan instead.
@@FultonStreetBeats you’re 100% right it was an Epiphone model. But Epiphone is owned by Gibson that’s what was in my head. I’ve seen Ace use his Gibson in concert. By the way I just found your channel and subscribed. Really good content.
@lancephilip Thanks brother. I'm glad to have you here. 🙂
Great looking guitar, if Gibson built one to order, probably 6 , 7 k easy
WOW man
If anyone can direct me to the seller as the one mentioned below isnt active anymore that would be great
👍 Mikey
Hey Timmy!
I saw one like that but, it's a BASS !!!!
Im going to get a fake esp (Kirk Hammett ouija)... Then, imma scrape off the esp logo and brand it my own, seeing as it's not really an esp ... Sucks, but yea, don't mind making it my own ...👍👍👍
Looks like nitro finish to me from looking inside, poly is extremely thick paint. That paint looks thin on the overspray.
Anyone know if they are using Ace’s name legally and he’s getting his cut? I’m not done with the video yet but if you didn’t mention it I’d like to know what it cost?
Luckily, they didn't use his name (Paul Daniel Frehley) it definitely doesn't have a nice ring to it. Lol. It's a little over 300 bucks. BTW. Thanks for watching.
Test the cavity paint
Cannot see inside the neck pickup pocket….
What you could improve in the future if you take your time to make a video like this is lightning, it would be a much better video if we actually can see what you are talking about when it comes to routing cavity and such.. other than that, great video. Cheers.
Had anyone tried the SRV guitars from China
It's on my next list🙂
@@FultonStreetBeats id love to see that one. Let me know if you do a video on that one
The only way I would be able to get an Ace Frehley guitar is a fake copy. But I wouldn't mind it at all.
My wife said 'No.'
That’s why I never remarried. 😂
I'm 41. I've only ever been able to afford the 890 les paul and it was shitty let's be real so I resold it back to guitar center. However. This guitar...seems really freaking good for the money either way. So I can't wait to get one. U less someone is going to buy me a 2900 dollar real les paul than MIND YOUR FKN BUISNESS
Price of a decent fretjob would cost same as this guitar !
I Bought a Black Beauty if a Guy Passed it off as a Gibson Custom black beauty and was sick to find out it wasn't.buyer beware.but if this isn't near what I paid for the chibson black beauty I may get one because Gibson is really pricy and I don't care that it's a chibson as long as it looks and plays and sounds great
No fret nibs but the fret ends are rounded. they're making gibson look bad.
Les Paul's are too expensive now. It's like buying a car. I'm thinking of hunting one of these down in a tobacco burst. I'll put some Seymour Duncan's in it. It's worth a try.
Ah but they ARE charging a premium price, just over $300 USD. that's the higher end of the spectrum for Chibsons..and isn't it wonderful? what an easy thing to just flip on to the credit card.
Been playing 50+ years, yeah I'm old! I've played awesome inexpensive and awesome expensive and I've played horrible inexpensive and horrible inexpensive gtrs. I own several Chinese knock-offs. You have to be careful. Buy from a seller with good ratings. Quality is definitely getting better! Chinese gtrs are a modders dream! If you can get a quality piece of wood and a quality base then you're going to be happy. If you're not into doing your own mods Chinese gtrs are not for you.
A lot of the sellers are here today gone later today that's why its generally pointless providing or recommending a seller. The reason is it makes it harder for them to be tracked remember they are selling counterfeits and that's illegal even in China.