I’m not an Ohio state fan but watching them continue to run into the interior of that Michigan DL was coaching malpractice, especially with the talent advantage they have at WR
Ohio state used 13 million from their NIL pot to keep players from going to the NFL and 7 million to the transfer portal. The team is a power house and should’ve won out. This loss to Michigan was definitely horrible coaching.
Ohio state and their fans think they are better than they really are. Yes they are a talented team but they are not way more talented than the other top teams in the country and will lose to any team that has a talent level similar to there’s
I;m fairly certain that losing to Louisville is far less embarrassing than losing to Northern Illinois. The worst loss of the season belongs to the Irish.
When I heard that I was like Clemson losing to Louisville is not close to the worst loss. I was checking the comments to see if anyone commented on this. Thanks
@@joelando1559 Not even kiddo. OU despite being barely bowl eligible is a P4 team in a P4 conference. NIU is a lower tiered MAC school. Those losses are not the same at all. Plus Alabama played OU in Norman and ND lost at home in South Bend. Casual take from a casual. Side note (NIU lowkey "manhandled" ND b/c they outgained them by 100yds of offense),
Thanks for doing this every Sunday, Matt & Paul! You’ve been working all weekend, are beyond tired, sometimes have to travel - but you wake up early and do the show anyway. As fans we can’t possibly catch every game, so every Sunday I look forward to your ‘Big Picture’ takes on the show. The fans appreciate you!
As an Oregon fan for over 40 years, I’m so grateful to do this well in our first year in the Big Ten. It’s going to be a tough ball game next week against Penn State. But so grateful that we are RELEVANT! I’ve seen a lot of bad football over the decades. This is by far the best Oregon team I’ve ever seen. Both the defense and the offense are of great quality. The recruiting is outstanding. Very thankful that Dan Lanning is that rear person who is loyal to his program. As for Ohio State, who knows what their fate is? They may start the Bowl season on the road. What a turn of events.
Ur actually joking right?? He lost against one of the worst Michigan teams in the 21st century (which is sayin somethin) while he coached one of the most capable CFB teams in the nation. AT HOME. Ryan Day is holding OSU back. He has to be fired if OSU wants to start thinking about a national title
@@daviddespas2957 ohhh. Well imma Michigan fan too. I’m very happy we won yesterday. I thought he was an OSU fan that likes Ryan Day so I was a bit confused. But yeah, if they keep him I guess we just gonna keep winning
Ohio can't win a Natty if they can't beat a 6-5 Michigan team that has a QB who threw for 60 yards and no touchdowns 😂 Ohio going down in first round. Ryan Day looked healthy four years ago. Now he's frail, dark sunken eyes, and scared. Michigan and this rivalry has taken a gigantic toll on that man's health. He's a shell of his former self. Dude needs to check into the Betty Ford clinic
@thumper300zx yes! I am! I'm a Buckeye. His comment is spot on. And if you don't see that, then your awareness of your surroundings are low. Ryan Day just lost his 4th year in a row to one of the worst michigan teams in a long time. Did I mention it was AT HOME! Did I mention how loaded our roster is? Wake up bro. Work on your observing skills. Buckeyes are 1st round busts.
@@AkronKid330 Ok, so you put money on it, right? I'm not being metaphorical. If you're so sure, there's zero reason not to put your house up in Vegas. If I name the 11 teams that will lose in the playoffs, I'll be right at least 10 of 11 times. I'm not even making an argument that Ohio will win or is even good. Lol. I'm just arguing one thing: if you're so sure, prove it. 😂
Yep. People called that 2-3 years ago and I didn't want to believe it. But, absolutely true and they need to cut the cord right now. Keeping him says to the world that you are ok with 10-3 seasons, no conf or national titles and maybe 1 big win every other season.
My favorite College Football season was 2005 - watching Texas and USC build toward an epic Rose Bowl BCS Championship Game that was absolutely phenomenal (arguably the best game in CFB History). But this season in a new CFB world has been fantastic and probably my 2nd favorite season. I love the 12-team playoff and the debates it gives us each weekend. Great show Matt and Paul.
The only people who say it’s devalued the regular season are the SEC/B10 people whose conferences have sucked all the oxygen out of the room for 20 years. Their games losing a fraction of prominence in exchange for the rest of the field getting the attention they deserved is in fact healthy for the overall health of cfb.
USC should not have been there that year. The "brotherly shove," was not legal at that time but the Refs, let that guy push the QB in. The commentator in the ND USC game yesterday even said at that time it wasn't legal. Why did the Refs, let him do it at that time. Huh?
My favorite college football season was 2020, Ohio State sissies opting not to play,then deciding to play then get stomped by Alabama, SEC is the only competitive college football conference
People keep complaining about Bama's bad loss, but not the fact that their resume stomps 90% of the teams ahead of them. Top 15 strength of schedule, 3 top 15 wins, 4 ranked wins, and 10 of their 12 opponents are bowl eligible. Almost half their schedule had 9+ wins. They faced 6 of the top 9 in SEC conference standings.
@@Iceman24424head to head matters and if ole miss didn’t curb stomp SC at home none of this would be a debate but they did. Alabamas resume is just better period
Ohio State played the 25th ranked strength of schedule. How can ESPN continue to claim that Ohio State is the most talented team in the country when they play nobody. Ohio State is and has been over rated for years
If Georgia loses no way they make it in lol no matter what anyone thinks. It would give them 3 loses and then they should fall behind bama and ole miss. You know, the other 2 teams that beat them
Imma be honest, Texas doesn’t seem like they have what it takes to win. Georgia is good, but they also just don’t seem good enough. I think the Ducks are gonna take the cake here. And honestly, Oregon is the only team that has a season they can brag about.
What happened to a $20 million team (OSU) especially with an expert offensive coordinator(Chip Kelly) ?? Where was the offense(10 points) against a mediocre Michigan team
@@tomrockhill8634 I just asked the question. Jim Tressel(2002) and Urban Meyer(2014) won national titles so of course the same is expected of Day. I just do not think 66 wins are automatic that you take them for granted. He has the top recruiting class in the country coming in. I'm not an OSU fan so not emotionally involved.
THE trade school in Columbus has a few requirements for that job: Beat TTUN and compete for a Natty. That's it. Everything else is a given for them. If Day can't do one or both of those things then he's toast as soon as they can get the money together to buy him out.
OSU should be wary of firing a winning coach. Tennessee did so in 2008 bc Philip Fulmer couldn't beat Nick Saban. They fired him for Lane Kiffin, who bolted for USC after a year. Then they hired Derek Dooley because they couldn't find a capable coach after the New Year. He lasted 4-ish mediocre years. Then Butch Jones. Then the Greg Schianno debacle. Then Jeremy Pruitt who was fired along with the AD for going winless in conf play in 2020. The AD also happened to be the same coach they fired in 2008. After Pruitt, no one wanted the job. Finally they invested in a quality AD who hired the one coach he could convince to take the job. In short, don't "Tennessee" yourself. Don't fire coaches who regularly compete for conference and national titles.
If bama didn’t have the name, they wouldn’t be in consideration! Losing to Vandy and getting blown out by Ok is a non starter for anyone else! And imagine Paul gravitating towards Bama? Who besides EVERYBODY would think that!
"There's not a convincing argument..." FULL STOP. I agree that they should take no more than Tennessee, Georgia, and Texas. If they take any other SEC team at this point, we'll never hear the end of it.
@@samuelking4723facts! I’m a LSU fan and that South Carolina team is being slept on. That defense is a problem and they have a run game. That’s all you need and Michigan showed that last year lol
@samuelking4723 profoundly disagree with you. They played in a real game, against both ole Miss and Alabama. Head to head MATTERS! Ole Miss and Alabama get the consideration before South Carolina. SC has had a great turnaround 2nd half for themselves, still not enough to outweigh the fact they lost to the two teams ahead of them in ole Miss and Alabama.
Miami losing opened the door for another team. Might be SEC , might not. There are a lot of good teams this year , seems to be only one great team and that is Oregon.
This has been a special year, many upsets and teams that have bad losses and good wins too. I'm glad we'll be able to measure each conference in the playoffs
Clemson who has no business playing for a spot can get in, and 3 teams will be sitting and waiting to see who gets in, probably all deserving, playing a better schedule.
Paul saying the Coaches telling him it's a new game and some players are not locked in is correct. If these young players were getting paid how regular people get paid. That is if you don't produce or get your job done you don't get paid. Then it would be a complete turnaround on some teams.
Until NIL is regulated and you have to make the choice, spend a lot on one player, or spend very little in hopes you can get multiple good players. At that point the only schools good players will settle for less to go to will be blue blood programs that have historically been on the national stage. Such as UGA, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, maybe Oregon. Even with NIL now SEC is still dominating recruiting taking 6 spots of the top 10 in class of 2025
@@CampingJimmy Sure they’re transferring. If your a 5 star and you commit thinking your going to start right away only to find out your behind 3 other 5 stars, would you stay? I wouldn’t. But the transfer portal will be regulated as well much like NFL contracts. It’ll probably be something like, if you commit to a school you have to stay for 2 years. Then if you decide to transfer, wherever you transfer to you have to finish your college career. It won’t always be the way it currently is with a Wild West vibe
@@paulshears5202 Bama had starters transfering this year. UGA had starters transfer. Michigan had starters transfer. USC had starters transfer. Need I continue?
@@johnbeazyi would say Oregon is the best team because they beat everyone on their schedule and did not lose to an inferior team. They also played eight straight conference games without a bye. The only team to do that in the country.
Pay to play has ruined college football. Coaches have no control over players and players don't care because they get paid despite how they play. I have been a lifelong CFB fan since the 70s. Always rolled with the changes but I think I am checking out now because it is no longer stident athletes.
ESPN talking heads -> "We want 4 SEC teams in and Alabama should be the 4th". Objective reality -> "Alabama doesn't deserve to be in but South Carolina does so okay 4 it is". ESPN talking heads -> "We want 3 SEC teams in".
@@JohnWhite-lj9gz Reality, neither Alabama nor South Carolina deserve to be in, but they're better than the other undeserving teams that are being considered for a play off that has way too many teams. We've never needed more than 6, eight is enough.
@@Jacob-fz6zx Of course it matters that SC is on a 6 game winning streak and beating ranked teams. H2H matters too. Bama's resume is not close to South Carolina's now, especially now that any good team will look at how the Sooners beat them. Bama is not scary, SC is.
This is how I see it after Saturday... Oregon 1, Texas 2, Penn State 3, Notre Dame 4, Georgia 5, Tennessee 6, Ohio State 7, SMU 8, Indiana 9, Boise State 10, Alabama 11, South Carolina12, Ole Miss 13, Miami 14.
You talking after championship Saturday? Or are you talking about how it’s going to look this Tuesday? Because Penn state and Oregon both can’t be in the top 4 in the final rankings
@@chrissmith1364They have 2 losses by a combined 4 points, to the #1 team on the road by 1 and their hated rival by a FG (missed 2 easy FGs). They also have 2 top 10 wins. They are easily in the playoffs.
I agree but head to head matters. But you can’t ignore the fact that both bama and ole miss lost to two unranked teams. South Carolina is 5 points away from being a 1 loss team
@@WhitneyGadison1 Yes and they lost to both ole miss and Bama. Bama was ahead of them before SCs win over Clemson so thru can't jump them. If SC goes then they have to put Bama in.
When Paul Finebaum made the assertion that free agency in college is precisely the reason for the intense competition and that contracts are necessary, it is evident that the top 20 teams held a significant advantage year after year. In the long run, it's been great for college football fans, and it worked in the NFL, NBA, and NHL.
One the of the reasons I hate the 12 team playoff is because of how devalued the regular season now is. It should have been 8 teams. The top 5 conference champs, 4 power conferences and top group of 5, and 3 at large. Finebaum making the argument that a loss in Sept now means nothing is a perfect example of this. There are too many teams and too few games to be making 2nd and 3rd order comments on how teams are playing.
How much do you think A&M regrets running Haynes King out of College Station to Atlanta? If King was still at A&M, the Aggies would be a national championship contender.
"It's basically free agency. The players literally don't listen to anything we say" - Finebaum (from coaches). That tells the whole story to me. This sport will never be the same. The quality of the play will never match the Saban era.
No one ever argued there were 12 teams worthy of the national championship that I saw anyway. Its about money and inclusion. That's why the G5 spot is there. It keeps over half the fan bases of college football involved
Nobody with a brain wanted the expansion because of the amount of worthy teams being left out. It’s for the potential story of chaos and perfection that could be created, should the Cinderella team, find their glass slippers and make a run to the big ball.
Thats the most ridiculous comment ever. Every team in the conversation has shown they can beat good teams and lose to bad teams besides maybe Oregon but they struggled with Wisconsin so idk. There are 12 teams maybe more who could win it all. Odds are different for sure but to say 12 aren't worthy is just dumb
@@johnotto4931bro how do you not know yet. If you go to conference champ game and in the big 4 they can’t use the loss against you. The committee has said that outright
Ryan Dooms Day and Chipless Kelly both need Fired. As a Buckeye fan I’m breaking out the brown paper bags and cutting eye holes in them. We should not be in the playoffs and regardless of what we do, Day n Kelly need to go. Fire 🔥 them either way
Die hard Buckeye fan, here and I agree they need to go. When you have EVERYTHING going for you and your guys stuck with you mainly to win yesterday, the coaching staff failed the team, the fans and the school! If Day remains, our recruiting will be devastated.
This isn’t Dooms Day first egg that he laid. Remember Ryan 3 point Day in Bowl game. He’s proven more times than not he has zero play calling and so has Chipless. Pathetic.
I agree with Paul, when he said people say, “Miami has good wins but my Bama doesn’t?” They act like Bama hasn’t beat Georgia or South Carolina. I have a theory that people don’t want my Bama in because of the possibility that my Bipolar Bama will show up beast mode and can possibly show out and it scares Bama haters. If my Bama team doesn’t make it, I am so proud of them for winning 9 games without the goat, and with all the transfers out of Bama in the beginning, and other teams buying our players out…just a great season for beating Auburn. Roll Tide Forever!!
I didn't expect much out of Bama this year either, but they've made it clear that on a good day they can beat anyone and on a bad day, they can lose to anyone. Teams should be afraid that Bama gets in the playoffs because none of them have a chance if they get in beast mode. I think the playoffs are too big now and that there are going to be a whole bunch of undeserving teams getting in this year. If Alabama isn't one of them, I'm ok with that. We beat Auburn, gave Vanderbilt the best day of their lives, and beat Auburn. Considering all the changes taking place. We did well. I'll take a playoff berth, but also happy either way. Glad to finally read a post from another realistic Bama fan. Roll Tide!
@@antoniomatthews4459 We get thumped by OU by less if the refs were competent. Vandy was a decent team this year. Who knew until they beat Bama? We should have been more prepared for both games though. Growing pains. I think DeBoer will have the team rolling again next year.
You mean the SEC that saw 5 different teams National Titles since 2006 (the first year they let a one lost SEC champion play)? A span where only 4 other teams for all other conferences combined were able to win one. 2 ACC teams and 2 Big 10 teams? 17 years 12 SEC National Champions. Only 6 won by Nick Saban. Nick Saban lost one fewer conference championship that all other teams combined won during that stretch. Any team able to beat Alabama to play for a Natty, won the national championship. If it weren't for Alabama dominating that during that time, it would have been another SEC team. The play there is just much more competitive and good teams often end up with bad records. The SEC has just been better for over a decade. If you go back to 1998, you can add 4 more non SEC schools to the list except that 2 of those teams now play in the SEC and you'd have to add another SEC school to the list. So since 1998, 8 different teams that currently play in the SEC have won National Titles, while only 6 schools for all other conferences combined have been able to win one. Going back over 25 years there. The SEC is just consistently better than every other conference and most old timers in the south agree that if not for SEC teams beating each other up, the SEC would have won a lot more titles in the years prior too.
I saw Osu losing to Michigan. Rivalry games you throw records out the window. The most shocking list of the season is still Vandy over Bama or NIU over ND.
One thing I've always loved was college football. Now you are entitling these spoiled kids by paying them ridiculous amounts of money, effectively ruining the ideas of teamwork and loyalty. Whiners are jumping from team to team looking for playtime, when they should be competing and getting better to play. Coaches are losing control, chaos is everywhere. Thanks for ruining a great college sport...
It's almost like these spoiled kids rake in millions upon millions of dollars for these universities and conferences and are getting a little bit of reward for all the profit they generate🤔
@@colindavis7197lol they are getting “a little” they’re making more than half the nfl and they have more control than they ever should’ve been given. It’ll change don’t worry.
@@colindavis7197wrong ya big dummy. They never played for free. See, they always got these things, called scholarships. You know, where they get free education at a top notch school. Where they get free food. Where they get a free place to live. Where they get a ticket to the NFL making more money than any coach could ever dream of. Alabama even spends an additional $300,000 on each players wellness every year whether it be nutritional or medical and I’m sure other schools and programs are the same. That’s not playing for free my friend. Let’s not forget that it’s just a game 2nd graders are playing. Some of you guys kill me with your lack of knowledge on the subject and how your brains work. Probably voted for Kamala as well for “free college” that you’ll still pay for with rising tax costs😂
Georgia won back to back and college football suddenly starts paying players and letting guys transfer wherever. The ncaa knew what was coming with Kirby and Georgia and that was dominance
The players suit against the Ncaa predicated the NIL & Transfer Portal. The ncaa fought it until the end, since that ruling by Scotus essentially rendered them harmless. Colleges have been paying players since (Before) Bear Bryant at A&M 's "Wad of Cash" . The difference is everyone can do it now. The ncaa didn't rain on your parade; rather it was a couple of obscure players at an obscure College. Ironic.
@@americanjoe4955 Good points but actually it was the lawyers behind the scenes who urged those players to sue and did all the prep work, in order to continue destroying western culture. There's always a plan behind the madness. This comment will probably be deleted for the same reason.
So the coaches and the schools should make millions as football pipelines to the NFL but players should run the gauntlet for free in college and risk their millions for the team and fans?
15:00 what debate? The only debate should be between Bama and Ole Miss. I don’t care how good SC is playing. They lost to Bama and Ole Miss. Head to head HAS to matter in situations like this. It’s why we play the games. Otherwise there’s no point in it.
So should vandy and Kentucky be ahead of ole miss and bama because they beat them? There’s more than simply head to head going on here, including how sc hasn’t lost to an unranked team like bama and ole miss have
@m1key794 If Vandy had just 3 losses and the head to head against Bama then absolutely they should be ahead of Bama. Unfortunately for them that's not the case.
@@m1key794 but head -to-head should matter more. Michigan beat the number 2 team in the country, in their home stadium. If the records are the same, then head -to-head should be the difference maker. But who knows, in a couple of weeks we will the answers, but no doubt, debates will happen even after that.
Bama just got whooped by a very sorry Oklahoma and lost to Vandy. Those lose should disqualify Alabama. Ole Miss had there chance beat Florida your in they lost. SC deserves the spot over both.
I'm not so worried about "12 worthy" teams -- the main concern is that it's not only 2 or 4. Those teams that don't make 9-12 have NOTHING to complain about. While there is argument about who they should be, they can't say they should be 1-8. That's what I love about the 12. Have wanted it for literally decades. The extra game will make it considerably tougher for them to bleed into the top. Remember, a TOURNAMENT only says who was best in the tournament. It still doesn't determine the BEST team. That's impossible and subjective.
You are correct in that not making the playoff this year means you have no argument that you should be in. This year its hard to find any consistent justification for 8 teams.
Both Matt and Paul are self proclaiming, very confused. It's not at all confusing. The transfer portal has allowed some good teams who maybe had been missing a couple of key players in certain positions to become 'very good' teams. There is more parity. And the biggest factor missing ENTIRELY in this discussion is injuries. This is why a team that looked like it was unstoppable in the first few weeks ends up falling down in the stretch run.
Or you could have a real playoff with ALL the conference champs. This gives you 10 teams. You could add a couple more or 6 more based on records and opponents' winning percentage for seeding. That makes all the games matter all season. Who needs a biased committee? Win your conference and you're in. This is just an invitational.
What if you won all your games but lost your conf championship to a team who lost more games, against other teams of less strength? Just trying to understand. 🤔 It's all kind of sketchy anymore, lol. Does that make it a crapshoot or tough luck? 😆
@@bobsacamano7653 Why even have a regular season or conference championships. Teams with 3 loses that don't win their conference, don't deserve to be in the playoffs. I'm a Bama fan. We should be going to a nothing bowl along with Ohio State, South Carolina, Miami, the loser of the SEC championship game. Oregon is the only team I would guarantee a spot right now. The 4 highest ranked major conference champions, any unbeaten teams, the best of the group of 5 team and the committee can pick 3 teams that they feel will bring in money. Not 7 or as you're suggesting 9. That is too many. 8 would have put both GA and FSU in last year and then there would have been 2 teams picked probably Notre Dame and Ohio State. I don't even remember their records, but since Bama was in these were probably their favorite two. The early rounds of the playoffs are currently too high. The conference championship games should be defacto playoff games with the loser almost always eliminated and if they are allowed in, they should be seeded so that the only way they play the team they lost to would be in a National Championship to reduce the risk of teams playing three times in a season as we have with Georgia and Texas this year and almost with OSU and Oregon.
If you want a deciding factor for the bubble how about consider the fact that the last team in will have to play a road playoff game. Alabama is 2-3 on the road and SC is 4-1
Alabama getting beat down by Oklahoma so badly is what skewered them---and it should, especially this late in the season. That loss was inexplicable and unexcusable. A total coaching breakdown. MUCH worse than the Vandy loss.
The 12 team playoff is perfect for this new world of NIL and transfer portal. Talent has dispersed and every week we saw a top 10 team fall to an unranked opponent. The previous model was anti-competition…college football is finally exciting again!
2 arguments for SC; 1) We're hot and 2) We don't have a bad loss like Bama(Oklahoma) or Ole Miss(Florida) do, as all of ours are 2 ranked teams. Do I think we'll get in? No, I don't.
How is it that Alabama is even remotely considered for the playoff? Every other week they’ve been in a funk and looked clueless. Two of their three losses are to podunks. Get off them. The playoff will survive without the trickling tide.
If the standard of a bad loss is applied to Indiana then that standard puts Alabama out with 2 bad losses and 3 overall losses compared to Indianas 1. If Penn state wins b10 conference, look out for a big name team getting stuck on the road for round 1
This has been a weird season of wins/losses, but one thing is more true than anything else: Ryan Day consistently underperforms. He always seems to find a way to do less with more talent than any coach I’ve seen. OSU consistently plays one of the weakest schedules year in, year out, but just can’t get it done. The SEC has been quite the anomaly. At times all the top teams have looked like world beaters, while at other times they’ve looked terrible. What gives! IF Bama gets in it will be b/c they got A LOT of help, and they travel well bringing in A TON of money, which is what it’s all ultimately about. I’m an Alabama fan, and having to say this is painful, but as far as I’m concerned the quality of wins does not outweigh the heinous losses. No way even a good Vandy team should ever beat Alabama, and this is one of the worst OU teams I’ve seen. Alabama just plain got embarrassed. No excuse! Roll Tide and all ‘at.
do they deserve in, no. will they get in probably. I Clemson won against south carolina they would 100% be in right now, but now they really have to choose between bama, ole miss, and south carolina. South carolina is currently probably better than bama and ole miss but has lost to both. Then you have bama beating georgia plus south carolina and a close loss to Tennessee. Against ole miss who only has a ranked win against south carolina. You can say what you want about bama losses but ole miss lost to florida, which has one win over vandy and oklahoma. IMO either south carolina or bama get in and historically head to heads matter so I think bama gets in.
@@JustMeELCy’all shoulda dropped to #20 after the third loss. Be honest. They just be praying y’all get it together. End of day y’all trash. It will show again. Y’all make it in. This ain’t Saban days
Tennessee losing to Arkansas loomed on doom. Yet now it sort of makes a viable route now to get in the CFP. Kansas was a pivotal team wreaking havoc in the final few weeks. Ole Miss and South Carolina are two powerful 3 loss teams that got on the side of some bad luck. If Clemson gets in and South Carolina does not expect some huge hate.
Clemson could and should have won in a blowout yesterday as bad as 31-0 but we have a terrible coaching staff and have been a shitty tackling team all year. We have more talent, by far, than every team on our schedule not named UGa, but we also have the worst and least experienced coaching staff in college football. Yet we still should be 11-1 but the Louisville and SC games were poor tackling and poor execution which of course is representative of coaching incompetence.
I look forward to this video every Sunday during the CFB season. I was SO disappointed to see that the episode was 18 minutes long … was hoping for at least an hour today.
@@XDesrathX6 He was talking about Championship game participants. Both SEC teams are getting in. That's why he just said Oregon and PSU for the Big 10.
Pretty funny seeing Finebaum say Texas finally got a big win bc Michigan won but has spent the last decade treating Alabama like God's greatest gift to earth for beating mostly bang average Sec teams and Chattanooga St in week 10
Alabama was the real deal for 15 years.... in the no debate in the toughest conference in Football. The SEC ! Everybody wanted to play for Saban. And there will never be that coach to beat his record. But the hate for Bama has been for so long. And Great Jealousy!! 18 National Titles. PERIOD.....
I kind of feel like Oregon is the most overlooked #1 team in recent memory. In a year of great teams losing when they shouldn't, Oregon is the only team to go undefeated. And the pundits are not saying much about them.
All I know is 2 years ago Bama didn’t get in despite 2 losses to top 10 teams on the road on the last play of the game. Everyone said it’s not who you lost to, it’s who did you beat? No signature wins, TCU got in and you see what happened. Who has Miami beaten? 2 losses and 2 more games saved by refs.
Imagine thinking about firing a coach with 10 losses over 7 years. (No more than two losses in a season). Like getting kicked out of college for not winning the debate even though you have a 3.8 gpa and brought in funding for the department.
We all say that but for the most part with the transfer portal we’re now at the point where any team can win on any given weekend regardless of record.
Here's a Hot Take: maybe instead of scraping the bottom of the barrel for a three loss team to fill out the roster, we consider a one loss Army, provided they beat Tulane on the 6th?
@@thatrabidpotato8800 Every three loss team has at least one embarrassing loss. Alabama lost to Vandy and Oklahoma. Ole Miss to Kentucky and Florida. South Carolina was destroyed by Ole Miss. Even two loss teams can screw the pooch. Ohio State played three ranked teams, and lost to one of them and had a loss to unranked Michigan. Arizona State, Iowa State, and Clemson have losses to unranked opponents. Georgia was destroyed by Ole Miss. Your argument is not as compelling as you might think.
Day has been exposed, his career wins in the Big 10 proves the weakness of the conference. He’s beaten up on conference teams but can’t seem to get past Michigan and Oregon this year.
@@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT”all the time” lmao please tell me which big 10 teams have beaten sec teams other than bama losing to OSU in 2015 and bama losing to the cheaters in 2023? Name one game. Just one. I dare you. Bama is the only SEC team to lose to a big10 team in the playoffs… ever. And it only happened twice.
I’m not an Ohio state fan but watching them continue to run into the interior of that Michigan DL was coaching malpractice, especially with the talent advantage they have at WR
BINGO!! You nailed it Taz. Many teams win with the pass. Day was stubborn and stupid.
@@dennisgannonyep, the stubborn play calling handed the game away. When you have 2 O-line starters injured you can’t rely on interior runs.
I lost my voice yelling at them not to run up the F$&kin middle!
Also they need to find a kicker 😂
Will Howard played horrible + the wind = gotta run
Ohio state used 13 million from their NIL pot to keep players from going to the NFL and 7 million to the transfer portal. The team is a power house and should’ve won out. This loss to Michigan was definitely horrible coaching.
Ohio state and their fans think they are better than they really are. Yes they are a talented team but they are not way more talented than the other top teams in the country and will lose to any team that has a talent level similar to there’s
Apparently should have spent more lol😂
@ now a days I can agree.. Oregon I believe spent the most and look where they are. I could be wrong
@Chupacabra_4 agreed. Ohio State just benefits immensely from being in a weakass conference and a ton if money from past.
They needed to spend more on the kicker
I;m fairly certain that losing to Louisville is far less embarrassing than losing to Northern Illinois. The worst loss of the season belongs to the Irish.
When I heard that I was like Clemson losing to Louisville is not close to the worst loss. I was checking the comments to see if anyone commented on this. Thanks
@@johnbeazyfr they underestimate louisville. if they had beaten stanford they’d be 13th rn looking for miami to lose. which happened.
Nah, Alabama not being able to score a single TD and getting manhandled by an unranked team!!!
@@joelando1559 Not even kiddo. OU despite being barely bowl eligible is a P4 team in a P4 conference. NIU is a lower tiered MAC school. Those losses are not the same at all. Plus Alabama played OU in Norman and ND lost at home in South Bend. Casual take from a casual. Side note (NIU lowkey "manhandled" ND b/c they outgained them by 100yds of offense),
@senpaiofsavage3072 stop bruh. Alabama doesn't belong in the playoffs. Plain and simple.
Thanks for doing this every Sunday, Matt & Paul! You’ve been working all weekend, are beyond tired, sometimes have to travel - but you wake up early and do the show anyway. As fans we can’t possibly catch every game, so every Sunday I look forward to your ‘Big Picture’ takes on the show. The fans appreciate you!
Ohio State and Michigan it's the pepper spray bowl
LMFAO!!! Animals!!!
😭😭😭😭 fantastic
Dude you win 😂😂😂
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Whaaaa😂😂😂😂
As an Oregon fan for over 40 years, I’m so grateful to do this well in our first year in the Big Ten. It’s going to be a tough ball game next week against Penn State. But so grateful that we are RELEVANT! I’ve seen a lot of bad football over the decades. This is by far the best Oregon team I’ve ever seen. Both the defense and the offense are of great quality. The recruiting is outstanding. Very thankful that Dan Lanning is that rear person who is loyal to his program. As for Ohio State, who knows what their fate is? They may start the Bowl season on the road. What a turn of events.
PLEASE, for the love of all that's right and holy, DO NOT let them fire Ryan Day. This dude is the gift that keeps on giving.
Ur actually joking right?? He lost against one of the worst Michigan teams in the 21st century (which is sayin somethin) while he coached one of the most capable CFB teams in the nation. AT HOME. Ryan Day is holding OSU back. He has to be fired if OSU wants to start thinking about a national title
@@Dogmanofthewesthe’s a Michigan fan dude of course he wants Ohio state to keep Ryan Day. They own Ohio state
@@daviddespas2957 ohhh. Well imma Michigan fan too. I’m very happy we won yesterday. I thought he was an OSU fan that likes Ryan Day so I was a bit confused. But yeah, if they keep him I guess we just gonna keep winning
ha ha ha
Rival week is like this every year! Literally every single year. 😂😂🤣🤣
The only difference is, it wasn’t surprising that Michigan beat OSU last year
The ACC is 3-8 against the SEC this year.
Wasn't it in reverse last year
@@antoniomatthews4459 yeah, but none of last year's games were upsets except Miami over Texas A&M.
The best SEC team almost lost at home to a crappy GT team. Florida struggled to beat the worst team in football.
Crappy? Really?
one of those is kentucky losing to louisville 😂
Ohio can't win a Natty if they can't beat a 6-5 Michigan team that has a QB who threw for 60 yards and no touchdowns 😂 Ohio going down in first round. Ryan Day looked healthy four years ago. Now he's frail, dark sunken eyes, and scared. Michigan and this rivalry has taken a gigantic toll on that man's health. He's a shell of his former self. Dude needs to check into the Betty Ford clinic
You putting money on that?
@thumper300zx yes! I am! I'm a Buckeye. His comment is spot on. And if you don't see that, then your awareness of your surroundings are low. Ryan Day just lost his 4th year in a row to one of the worst michigan teams in a long time. Did I mention it was AT HOME! Did I mention how loaded our roster is? Wake up bro. Work on your observing skills. Buckeyes are 1st round busts.
For sure they will lose in playoff again and everyone will declare next year they will win the Natty.Seen this same story for a decade.🙄
@@AkronKid330 Ok, so you put money on it, right? I'm not being metaphorical. If you're so sure, there's zero reason not to put your house up in Vegas.
If I name the 11 teams that will lose in the playoffs, I'll be right at least 10 of 11 times.
I'm not even making an argument that Ohio will win or is even good. Lol. I'm just arguing one thing: if you're so sure, prove it. 😂
You can make a similar argument about every team except Oregon.
Coach Ryan Day will be fired because yesterday's loss to Michigan is the most embarrassing loss in Ohio State University history.
He might survive another year IF they win the Natty. THE trade school in Columbus does have 37 million reasons to keep him.
He absolutely will not. who else are they going to get?? Good luck finding a coach that doesn't lose games here and there.
@coreygardner59 my thoughts exactly.
He has them going to playoffs though.Michigan isn't going.
I thought it was "THE" Ohio state University?
Ryan Day is this generation's John Cooper
Yep. People called that 2-3 years ago and I didn't want to believe it. But, absolutely true and they need to cut the cord right now. Keeping him says to the world that you are ok with 10-3 seasons, no conf or national titles and maybe 1 big win every other season.
Nope. Cooper said Michigan "was just another game". Ryan Day is the opposite end of the spectrum - he is too obsessed with the Michigan game.
My favorite College Football season was 2005 - watching Texas and USC build toward an epic Rose Bowl BCS Championship Game that was absolutely phenomenal (arguably the best game in CFB History). But this season in a new CFB world has been fantastic and probably my 2nd favorite season. I love the 12-team playoff and the debates it gives us each weekend. Great show Matt and Paul.
I was just old enough in 2005 to have a little conscious….so glad I have a few memories of that season cuz it was electric
The only people who say it’s devalued the regular season are the SEC/B10 people whose conferences have sucked all the oxygen out of the room for 20 years. Their games losing a fraction of prominence in exchange for the rest of the field getting the attention they deserved is in fact healthy for the overall health of cfb.
The season as a whole definitely wasn't any of my tops, but that Vince Young vs USC game was one of the best nattys I've watched.
USC should not have been there that year. The "brotherly shove," was not legal at that time but the Refs, let that guy push the QB in. The commentator in the ND USC game yesterday even said at that time it wasn't legal. Why did the Refs, let him do it at that time. Huh?
My favorite college football season was 2020, Ohio State sissies opting not to play,then deciding to play then get stomped by Alabama, SEC is the only competitive college football conference
People keep complaining about Bama's bad loss, but not the fact that their resume stomps 90% of the teams ahead of them. Top 15 strength of schedule, 3 top 15 wins, 4 ranked wins, and 10 of their 12 opponents are bowl eligible. Almost half their schedule had 9+ wins. They faced 6 of the top 9 in SEC conference standings.
They have no business being ranked above South Carolina period!! SC boat raced the 2 teams bama lost to but let’s not talk about facts…
They lost to two unranked teams. Sit down Alabama! -Georgia
@@Iceman24424head to head matters and if ole miss didn’t curb stomp SC at home none of this would be a debate but they did. Alabamas resume is just better period
Ohio State played the 25th ranked strength of schedule. How can ESPN continue to claim that Ohio State is the most talented team in the country when they play nobody. Ohio State is and has been over rated for years
Doesn't mean they're not talented tho
I'm not an OSU fan but 25th SOS is pretty high. Oregon is ranked 52.
And Texas was 38th. Disgusting.😂
Same way they pushing for a 9-3 Alabama just for views
They are just too soft
the 1st game should matter every bit as much as the last game.
Just have the regular season and abandon the playoffs. Each game counts the same and the schedule does not matter.
Tennessee v OSU is going to be a fun watch.
Ten will win
Definitely enjoyed this College Football season!!
Texas, Georgia and Oregon are my favorites to win the National Championship!!
Go Dawgs
If Georgia loses no way they make it in lol no matter what anyone thinks. It would give them 3 loses and then they should fall behind bama and ole miss. You know, the other 2 teams that beat them
@@chadjustice8560 No Way!
Imma be honest, Texas doesn’t seem like they have what it takes to win. Georgia is good, but they also just don’t seem good enough. I think the Ducks are gonna take the cake here. And honestly, Oregon is the only team that has a season they can brag about.
@@DogmanofthewestOregon Played Nobody but OSU and I been said OSU is da Cowboys of NCAA.. OSU is MID
What happened to a $20 million team (OSU) especially with an expert offensive coordinator(Chip Kelly) ?? Where was the offense(10 points) against a mediocre Michigan team
Absolutely! 🏈🐘
Their season is not done yet.
Bad play calling, and a mediocre QB
They decided it was better to try and beat Michigan in the trenches rather than just throw the ball to their 132 NFL wide receivers
I'm still waiting for them to come out of the tunnel to play Xichigan!!
Nothing like college football.. I swear
It actually getting better, unlike most things
B1G 4 in
SEC 4 in
Big 12 1 in
ACC 1 in
Boise State
Notre Dame
That took 1 minute. All that’s left is seeding.
If cleamson and Boise state win cleamson would be the 12 seed, acc wouldn't get a bye.
Had Day won against Michigan he could get bounced from the playoffs and be ok. Now he either wins a national championship or he’s gone.
Sounds right
Should of been gone before he left the field yesterday I know that much
National championship!!??....Day ALWAYS chokes in a big game!!!
One and done....he's gone and good riddance!!!
Can you imagine a Coach with a 66-10 record getting fired? That is crazy.
How often can an Ohio state team not score more than 13 points?
Do a deep dive on those 66 wins. How many are big wins? He can't beat Michigan or the SEC so how great is that record? He beats Penn st. Whoopeee😂😂
@@tomrockhill8634 I just asked the question. Jim Tressel(2002) and Urban Meyer(2014) won national titles so of course the same is expected of Day.
I just do not think 66 wins are automatic that you take them for granted. He has the top recruiting class in the country coming in. I'm not an OSU fan so not emotionally involved.
THE trade school in Columbus has a few requirements for that job: Beat TTUN and compete for a Natty. That's it. Everything else is a given for them. If Day can't do one or both of those things then he's toast as soon as they can get the money together to buy him out.
OSU should be wary of firing a winning coach. Tennessee did so in 2008 bc Philip Fulmer couldn't beat Nick Saban. They fired him for Lane Kiffin, who bolted for USC after a year. Then they hired Derek Dooley because they couldn't find a capable coach after the New Year. He lasted 4-ish mediocre years. Then Butch Jones. Then the Greg Schianno debacle. Then Jeremy Pruitt who was fired along with the AD for going winless in conf play in 2020. The AD also happened to be the same coach they fired in 2008. After Pruitt, no one wanted the job. Finally they invested in a quality AD who hired the one coach he could convince to take the job.
In short, don't "Tennessee" yourself. Don't fire coaches who regularly compete for conference and national titles.
If bama didn’t have the name, they wouldn’t be in consideration! Losing to Vandy and getting blown out by Ok is a non starter for anyone else! And imagine Paul gravitating towards Bama? Who besides EVERYBODY would think that!
Do others have a win over Georgia and 4 top 25 wins?
They had their chances and lost 3 games. The record has to count for something. You can only play the games on your schedule.
YEP!!!!
Bama travels and brings a lot of money to wherever it goes, especially the networks!
Roll Tide Buddy 😂
"There's not a convincing argument..." FULL STOP. I agree that they should take no more than Tennessee, Georgia, and Texas. If they take any other SEC team at this point, we'll never hear the end of it.
Honestly, Carolina kinda deserves a spot. They haven’t lost in the second half of their season, including four ranked wins.
@@samuelking4723facts! I’m a LSU fan and that South Carolina team is being slept on. That defense is a problem and they have a run game. That’s all you need and Michigan showed that last year lol
@samuelking4723 profoundly disagree with you. They played in a real game, against both ole Miss and Alabama. Head to head MATTERS! Ole Miss and Alabama get the consideration before South Carolina. SC has had a great turnaround 2nd half for themselves, still not enough to outweigh the fact they lost to the two teams ahead of them in ole Miss and Alabama.
Miami losing opened the door for another team. Might be SEC , might not. There are a lot of good teams this year , seems to be only one great team and that is Oregon.
@@williamharris8726if you think that SC isn’t one of the 10 best teams right now then you aren’t paying attention
This has been a special year, many upsets and teams that have bad losses and good wins too. I'm glad we'll be able to measure each conference in the playoffs
Clemson who has no business playing for a spot can get in, and 3 teams will be sitting and waiting to see who gets in, probably all deserving, playing a better schedule.
If Clemson loses Saturday, it will be a moot point
Goes to show when Georgia lose the narrative will change.
@@damianpresha9833 Lose to who? The team we boatraced in their home stadium?
@@bradd3840 Until they win again that game mean nothing. But in the event y'all lose watch how the narrative change.
Paul saying the Coaches telling him it's a new game and some players are not locked in is correct. If these young players were getting paid how regular people get paid. That is if you don't produce or get your job done you don't get paid. Then it would be a complete turnaround on some teams.
Really hope Buckeyes keep Ryan Day. Their fans love doing nothing anymore.
It’s great, the talent is spread out now..not monopolized by a select few.
Exactly, makes it way more exciting
Until NIL is regulated and you have to make the choice, spend a lot on one player, or spend very little in hopes you can get multiple good players. At that point the only schools good players will settle for less to go to will be blue blood programs that have historically been on the national stage. Such as UGA, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, maybe Oregon. Even with NIL now SEC is still dominating recruiting taking 6 spots of the top 10 in class of 2025
@@paulshears5202 In recruiting yes, but these SEC schools arent keeping the talent in house. Most are transfering out after a year or 2.
@@CampingJimmy Sure they’re transferring. If your a 5 star and you commit thinking your going to start right away only to find out your behind 3 other 5 stars, would you stay? I wouldn’t. But the transfer portal will be regulated as well much like NFL contracts. It’ll probably be something like, if you commit to a school you have to stay for 2 years. Then if you decide to transfer, wherever you transfer to you have to finish your college career. It won’t always be the way it currently is with a Wild West vibe
@@paulshears5202 Bama had starters transfering this year. UGA had starters transfer. Michigan had starters transfer. USC had starters transfer. Need I continue?
Oregon's biggest win was against Boise State back in week 2 where they won by a field goal in the fourth quarter. Exciting game to watch!
I am not saying Oregon is the best team but Oregon did beat Ohio State. I think that is the biggest win.
@@johnbeazyi would say Oregon is the best team because they beat everyone on their schedule and did not lose to an inferior team. They also played eight straight conference games without a bye. The only team to do that in the country.
Pay to play has ruined college football. Coaches have no control over players and players don't care because they get paid despite how they play. I have been a lifelong CFB fan since the 70s. Always rolled with the changes but I think I am checking out now because it is no longer stident athletes.
It never was…honestly!
my thoughts exactly...it's not even the same game anymore...been done w the nfl and cfb is next
Need a minor league football system . Then actual student athletes can play for university pride because they want an education as well.
It's amazing how many CF teams dominated one week and absoluted bombed out the next.
No playoff team wants to see South Carolina coming to their stadium. Gamecocks are by far the scariest team on the bubble.
They are this years bama/georgia, since those teams are WAY less terrifying with either no QB play or offense at all. SC with LaNorris is scary af.
ESPN talking heads -> "We want 4 SEC teams in and Alabama should be the 4th".
Objective reality -> "Alabama doesn't deserve to be in but South Carolina does so okay 4 it is".
ESPN talking heads -> "We want 3 SEC teams in".
@@JohnWhite-lj9gz Reality, neither Alabama nor South Carolina deserve to be in, but they're better than the other undeserving teams that are being considered for a play off that has way too many teams. We've never needed more than 6, eight is enough.
Alabama & ole miss 💯 gets in over south Carolina if there's a spot open. H2H matchups matter. Doesn't matter what Carolina is doing
@@Jacob-fz6zx Of course it matters that SC is on a 6 game winning streak and beating ranked teams. H2H matters too. Bama's resume is not close to South Carolina's now, especially now that any good team will look at how the Sooners beat them. Bama is not scary, SC is.
This is a solid show. Stay consistent.
This is how I see it after Saturday...
Oregon 1, Texas 2, Penn State 3, Notre Dame 4, Georgia 5, Tennessee 6, Ohio State 7, SMU 8, Indiana 9, Boise State 10, Alabama 11, South Carolina12, Ole Miss 13, Miami 14.
Same
You talking after championship Saturday? Or are you talking about how it’s going to look this Tuesday? Because Penn state and Oregon both can’t be in the top 4 in the final rankings
Yup 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽
As a OSU fan we should be 12 or left out. Day will mess it up anyhow.
@@chrissmith1364They have 2 losses by a combined 4 points, to the #1 team on the road by 1 and their hated rival by a FG (missed 2 easy FGs). They also have 2 top 10 wins. They are easily in the playoffs.
South Carolina has a better argument
No they don’t they lost to Bama and Ole Miss. Bama also has better wins than South Carolina.
@@bogues0355they didn’t lose to a awful Oklahoma team
@@Adamn7210
Head to head trumps like opponents
I agree but head to head matters. But you can’t ignore the fact that both bama and ole miss lost to two unranked teams. South Carolina is 5 points away from being a 1 loss team
@@WhitneyGadison1
Yes and they lost to both ole miss and Bama. Bama was ahead of them before SCs win over Clemson so thru can't jump them. If SC goes then they have to put Bama in.
Makes no sense that you can win the National Championship, yet "NOT" win your
Conference Championship?
Need to go to eight team, 4 CC winner top 4 with the other 4 as highest rated remaining teams
You can win the Super Bowl, or World Series, or NBA Finals, and not win your division. How does it not make sense?
It has happened even in the Bcs era 2011
@@8thaccount535 NCAA BB 64 TEAM BRACKET.
Dumb comment 😊
Truly enjoy your commentary.
When Paul Finebaum made the assertion that free agency in college is precisely the reason for the intense competition and that contracts are necessary, it is evident that the top 20 teams held a significant advantage year after year. In the long run, it's been great for college football fans, and it worked in the NFL, NBA, and NHL.
Michigan offensive and especially DEFENSIVE line played their best games.
Dominant football
The defense and Mullings won that game. And THE trade school kept trying to run up the middle.
No regular season 3 loss team should get in,period
Three lose? Three loss. Build Back Better by going back to 4th grade English.
Coach Saban agrees with you
One the of the reasons I hate the 12 team playoff is because of how devalued the regular season now is. It should have been 8 teams. The top 5 conference champs, 4 power conferences and top group of 5, and 3 at large. Finebaum making the argument that a loss in Sept now means nothing is a perfect example of this. There are too many teams and too few games to be making 2nd and 3rd order comments on how teams are playing.
Nope , what devalues the playoff now is using flawed biased human beings to pick at large teams 5 to 11. The BCS computers should be used for that.
How much do you think A&M regrets running Haynes King out of College Station to Atlanta? If King was still at A&M, the Aggies would be a national championship contender.
No they wouldn’t
I'm a Dawg fan, and I agree
No.
King is an incredible QB, without him Tech would be pedestrian
I totally agree
"It's basically free agency. The players literally don't listen to anything we say" - Finebaum (from coaches). That tells the whole story to me. This sport will never be the same. The quality of the play will never match the Saban era.
I’m not a Clemson fan, but Clemson has the worst loss of the season? Did we already forget about NIU?
Clemson didn't lose to NIU....Notre Dame was the team that lost to NIU
I told you so. There are not 12 worthy teams and there have never been twelve worthy teams
No one ever argued there were 12 teams worthy of the national championship that I saw anyway. Its about money and inclusion. That's why the G5 spot is there. It keeps over half the fan bases of college football involved
Nobody with a brain wanted the expansion because of the amount of worthy teams being left out. It’s for the potential story of chaos and perfection that could be created, should the Cinderella team, find their glass slippers and make a run to the big ball.
Need to go to eight
Last year there were 6 or 7 teams that were worthy of playing for the NC. This year, Im having a hard time making an excuse for 4.
Thats the most ridiculous comment ever. Every team in the conversation has shown they can beat good teams and lose to bad teams besides maybe Oregon but they struggled with Wisconsin so idk. There are 12 teams maybe more who could win it all. Odds are different for sure but to say 12 aren't worthy is just dumb
The regular season is how you qualify and gain your seeding and the playoff is how the champ is crowned.
SEC is at least getting 3 teams, Texas, Georgia AND Tennessee
So Georgia gets in automatically ? Even if they lose the SEC championship game ? Kinda renders the game irrelevant
@@johnotto4931it’ll be for placement. Both Texas and GA will be in regardless of who wins or loses the SECship
@@johnotto4931bro how do you not know yet. If you go to conference champ game and in the big 4 they can’t use the loss against you. The committee has said that outright
@@askog1900 then if I’m either of those teams I’m playing the 2’s the whole game, good experience for them and it doesn’t matter anyway
@@makingainz24If Georgia loses, no way they are in lol they would have to be put behind bama and ole miss. Head to head does matter
“Something unexpected will happen”. What a prediction.
Ryan Dooms Day and Chipless Kelly both need Fired. As a Buckeye fan I’m breaking out the brown paper bags and cutting eye holes in them. We should not be in the playoffs and regardless of what we do, Day n Kelly need to go. Fire 🔥 them either way
😂 as an OSU alumni, this made me chuckle, but you are so right.
Die hard Buckeye fan, here and I agree they need to go. When you have EVERYTHING going for you and your guys stuck with you mainly to win yesterday, the coaching staff failed the team, the fans and the school! If Day remains, our recruiting will be devastated.
This isn’t Dooms Day first egg that he laid. Remember Ryan 3 point Day in Bowl game. He’s proven more times than not he has zero play calling and so has Chipless. Pathetic.
Y’all wanted a playoff. Makes it easier for Alabama to get it. Accept it.
What a joke. If Alabama makes it into the playoffs with 12 teams, it’s criminal. And I’m an SEC fan.
Maybe Alabama will get in!! Let's Go Cuh 🚶♂️ 💪
Who would you put over them? They beat South Carolina?
When they are hot, Alabama can beat any team in the country. (They beat Georgia & South Carolina.) No one would want to play them in the playoffs.
@@TheSeanMichaelthey slop. Play a good front 5 they crash out
@ Georgia and South Carolina don’t have a good front five?
Playoff expansion was always necessary. You can't have 134 teams and only 4 have a shot at the championship.
I agree with Paul, when he said people say, “Miami has good wins but my Bama doesn’t?” They act like Bama hasn’t beat Georgia or South Carolina. I have a theory that people don’t want my Bama in because of the possibility that my Bipolar Bama will show up beast mode and can possibly show out and it scares Bama haters. If my Bama team doesn’t make it, I am so proud of them for winning 9 games without the goat, and with all the transfers out of Bama in the beginning, and other teams buying our players out…just a great season for beating Auburn. Roll Tide Forever!!
Yeah let's forget getting thumped by OU and Vandy. The same Vandy who lost to the powerhouse Georgia state.
@@antoniomatthews4459vandy dang near beat Texas and was up on Tennessee for a min
@@gavincaine4931 did they win
I didn't expect much out of Bama this year either, but they've made it clear that on a good day they can beat anyone and on a bad day, they can lose to anyone. Teams should be afraid that Bama gets in the playoffs because none of them have a chance if they get in beast mode. I think the playoffs are too big now and that there are going to be a whole bunch of undeserving teams getting in this year. If Alabama isn't one of them, I'm ok with that. We beat Auburn, gave Vanderbilt the best day of their lives, and beat Auburn. Considering all the changes taking place. We did well. I'll take a playoff berth, but also happy either way. Glad to finally read a post from another realistic Bama fan. Roll Tide!
@@antoniomatthews4459 We get thumped by OU by less if the refs were competent. Vandy was a decent team this year. Who knew until they beat Bama? We should have been more prepared for both games though. Growing pains. I think DeBoer will have the team rolling again next year.
Thanks to the biggest michigan fan, Ryan Day. My Buckeyes are out of the playoffs now. I called this!
They're still in playoffs. Just not getting a bye or a home game....
They are still easily in. Doesn't look like they can win it now, but who knows?
@@8thaccount535 I think 1st round outs. Ryan Day is checked out.
Saban cant carry the SEC anymore.
Thank God.
@@alienasoulWell be back. ROLL TIDE!
You mean the SEC that saw 5 different teams National Titles since 2006 (the first year they let a one lost SEC champion play)? A span where only 4 other teams for all other conferences combined were able to win one. 2 ACC teams and 2 Big 10 teams? 17 years 12 SEC National Champions. Only 6 won by Nick Saban. Nick Saban lost one fewer conference championship that all other teams combined won during that stretch. Any team able to beat Alabama to play for a Natty, won the national championship. If it weren't for Alabama dominating that during that time, it would have been another SEC team. The play there is just much more competitive and good teams often end up with bad records. The SEC has just been better for over a decade. If you go back to 1998, you can add 4 more non SEC schools to the list except that 2 of those teams now play in the SEC and you'd have to add another SEC school to the list. So since 1998, 8 different teams that currently play in the SEC have won National Titles, while only 6 schools for all other conferences combined have been able to win one. Going back over 25 years there. The SEC is just consistently better than every other conference and most old timers in the south agree that if not for SEC teams beating each other up, the SEC would have won a lot more titles in the years prior too.
@ you seem worried
I saw Osu losing to Michigan. Rivalry games you throw records out the window. The most shocking list of the season is still Vandy over Bama or NIU over ND.
One thing I've always loved was college football. Now you are entitling these spoiled kids by paying them ridiculous amounts of money, effectively ruining the ideas of teamwork and loyalty. Whiners are jumping from team to team looking for playtime, when they should be competing and getting better to play. Coaches are losing control, chaos is everywhere. Thanks for ruining a great college sport...
On point!
Everyone knew it would happen. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand human nature.
It's almost like these spoiled kids rake in millions upon millions of dollars for these universities and conferences and are getting a little bit of reward for all the profit they generate🤔
@@colindavis7197lol they are getting “a little” they’re making more than half the nfl and they have more control than they ever should’ve been given. It’ll change don’t worry.
@@colindavis7197wrong ya big dummy. They never played for free. See, they always got these things, called scholarships. You know, where they get free education at a top notch school. Where they get free food. Where they get a free place to live. Where they get a ticket to the NFL making more money than any coach could ever dream of. Alabama even spends an additional $300,000 on each players wellness every year whether it be nutritional or medical and I’m sure other schools and programs are the same. That’s not playing for free my friend. Let’s not forget that it’s just a game 2nd graders are playing. Some of you guys kill me with your lack of knowledge on the subject and how your brains work. Probably voted for Kamala as well for “free college” that you’ll still pay for with rising tax costs😂
Strength of schedule matters!!
Georgia won back to back and college football suddenly starts paying players and letting guys transfer wherever. The ncaa knew what was coming with Kirby and Georgia and that was dominance
The players suit against the Ncaa predicated the NIL & Transfer Portal. The ncaa fought it until the end, since that ruling by Scotus essentially rendered them harmless. Colleges have been paying players since (Before) Bear Bryant at A&M 's "Wad of Cash" . The difference is everyone can do it now. The ncaa didn't rain on your parade; rather it was a couple of obscure players at an obscure College. Ironic.
@@americanjoe4955 Good points but actually it was the lawyers behind the scenes who urged those players to sue and did all the prep work, in order to continue destroying western culture. There's always a plan behind the madness. This comment will probably be deleted for the same reason.
Contracts are coming and eventually a salary cap like the NFL, welcome to parody might eventually see a HS draft 😂
So the coaches and the schools should make millions as football pipelines to the NFL but players should run the gauntlet for free in college and risk their millions for the team and fans?
Nah they wanted to get Saban out man lol 6 national titles in ten years makes 2 back to back look like child’s play
15:00 what debate? The only debate should be between Bama and Ole Miss. I don’t care how good SC is playing. They lost to Bama and Ole Miss. Head to head HAS to matter in situations like this. It’s why we play the games. Otherwise there’s no point in it.
So should vandy and Kentucky be ahead of ole miss and bama because they beat them? There’s more than simply head to head going on here, including how sc hasn’t lost to an unranked team like bama and ole miss have
SC has a better resume. Hate to break it to you.
@m1key794 If Vandy had just 3 losses and the head to head against Bama then absolutely they should be ahead of Bama. Unfortunately for them that's not the case.
@@m1key794 but head -to-head should matter more. Michigan beat the number 2 team in the country, in their home stadium. If the records are the same, then head -to-head should be the difference maker. But who knows, in a couple of weeks we will the answers, but no doubt, debates will happen even after that.
Bama just got whooped by a very sorry Oklahoma and lost to Vandy. Those lose should disqualify Alabama. Ole Miss had there chance beat Florida your in they lost. SC deserves the spot over both.
"Ram the flag right up there axx" 😂
I'm not so worried about "12 worthy" teams -- the main concern is that it's not only 2 or 4. Those teams that don't make 9-12 have NOTHING to complain about. While there is argument about who they should be, they can't say they should be 1-8. That's what I love about the 12. Have wanted it for literally decades. The extra game will make it considerably tougher for them to bleed into the top. Remember, a TOURNAMENT only says who was best in the tournament. It still doesn't determine the BEST team. That's impossible and subjective.
You are correct in that not making the playoff this year means you have no argument that you should be in. This year its hard to find any consistent justification for 8 teams.
Both Matt and Paul are self proclaiming, very confused. It's not at all confusing. The transfer portal has allowed some good teams who maybe had been missing a couple of key players in certain positions to become 'very good' teams. There is more parity. And the biggest factor missing ENTIRELY in this discussion is injuries. This is why a team that looked like it was unstoppable in the first few weeks ends up falling down in the stretch run.
Or you could have a real playoff with ALL the conference champs. This gives you 10 teams. You could add a couple more or 6 more based on records and opponents' winning percentage for seeding. That makes all the games matter all season. Who needs a biased committee? Win your conference and you're in. This is just an invitational.
What if you won all your games but lost your conf championship to a team who lost more games, against other teams of less strength?
Just trying to understand. 🤔
It's all kind of sketchy anymore, lol. Does that make it a crapshoot or tough luck? 😆
The committee needs to be voted in by fans and that gets us better college football
12 teams is too many. 8 is the sweet spot
16 is the sweet spot.
@@bobsacamano7653 Why even have a regular season or conference championships. Teams with 3 loses that don't win their conference, don't deserve to be in the playoffs. I'm a Bama fan. We should be going to a nothing bowl along with Ohio State, South Carolina, Miami, the loser of the SEC championship game. Oregon is the only team I would guarantee a spot right now. The 4 highest ranked major conference champions, any unbeaten teams, the best of the group of 5 team and the committee can pick 3 teams that they feel will bring in money. Not 7 or as you're suggesting 9. That is too many. 8 would have put both GA and FSU in last year and then there would have been 2 teams picked probably Notre Dame and Ohio State. I don't even remember their records, but since Bama was in these were probably their favorite two. The early rounds of the playoffs are currently too high. The conference championship games should be defacto playoff games with the loser almost always eliminated and if they are allowed in, they should be seeded so that the only way they play the team they lost to would be in a National Championship to reduce the risk of teams playing three times in a season as we have with Georgia and Texas this year and almost with OSU and Oregon.
People think all this is exciting, but to me all its proves is these 12-14 teams are NOT national championship material....Bring back the BCS!
Paul, a mouth piece for Bama, and thats all you can hear.
SEClown...🤡
If you want a deciding factor for the bubble how about consider the fact that the last team in will have to play a road playoff game. Alabama is 2-3 on the road and SC is 4-1
Sc lost to Bama head to head matters
Ohio State alum here. It's time to make the call to Primetime. Day lost the fanbase yesterday and it's time to move on.
I'd rather we get someone that actually played in THE GAME. That lives and breathes Columbus. Mike Vrabel or Freeman at ND.
Mike Vrabel is holding on line two.
Alabama getting beat down by Oklahoma so badly is what skewered them---and it should, especially this late in the season. That loss was inexplicable and unexcusable. A total coaching breakdown. MUCH worse than the Vandy loss.
The 12 team playoff is perfect for this new world of NIL and transfer portal. Talent has dispersed and every week we saw a top 10 team fall to an unranked opponent. The previous model was anti-competition…college football is finally exciting again!
why does all media keep trying to get Alabama into the playoffs with 3 losses
No, Notre Dame has the worst loss.
Excuse me? I'm confused.
@DarioMilanes Northern Illinois...remember? He said Clemson had the worst loss. That is incorrect
Alabama got beat down by Oklahoma 🙃 but that doesn’t matter. South Carolina got beat down by Ole Miss and it’s the end of the world
Lifelong bama fan. With the egg we laid against Oklahoma being left put we really can only blame ourselves.
Yup, Our guys were too up and down all year. When they were good, they were very good, when they were bad, YIKES!
2 arguments for SC; 1) We're hot and 2) We don't have a bad loss like Bama(Oklahoma) or Ole Miss(Florida) do, as all of ours are 2 ranked teams. Do I think we'll get in? No, I don't.
How is it that Alabama is even remotely considered for the playoff? Every other week they’ve been in a funk and looked clueless. Two of their three losses are to podunks. Get off them. The playoff will survive without the trickling tide.
I still say Ty Simpson should be the starter.They would be better.
@@chr970 coaching disagree he might never start for Alabama or ever throw a TD at Alabama Mack has thrown more than him
Name 12 better teams. There aren't.
Alabama lost to vandy and Okla. would be a joke to put them in. But at least someone will get an easy 1 st round matchup.
Your kidding right? Alabama isnt playoff worthy@travisn346
If the standard of a bad loss is applied to Indiana then that standard puts Alabama out with 2 bad losses and 3 overall losses compared to Indianas 1.
If Penn state wins b10 conference, look out for a big name team getting stuck on the road for round 1
How is Indiana's loss to OSU "bad"?
Alabama has no right being apart of the playoffs, the conference losses they took are embarrassing. It's sad if they get in "because it's Alabama".
They also beat Georgia and South Carolina
Sounds like a hater. Bama won more ranked games including Georgia and SC
This has been a weird season of wins/losses, but one thing is more true than anything else: Ryan Day consistently underperforms. He always seems to find a way to do less with more talent than any coach I’ve seen. OSU consistently plays one of the weakest schedules year in, year out, but just can’t get it done.
The SEC has been quite the anomaly. At times all the top teams have looked like world beaters, while at other times they’ve looked terrible. What gives! IF Bama gets in it will be b/c they got A LOT of help, and they travel well bringing in A TON of money, which is what it’s all ultimately about.
I’m an Alabama fan, and having to say this is painful, but as far as I’m concerned the quality of wins does not outweigh the heinous losses. No way even a good Vandy team should ever beat Alabama, and this is one of the worst OU teams I’ve seen. Alabama just plain got embarrassed. No excuse! Roll Tide and all ‘at.
Bama breaks out the check book and pays off the committee is the only way they get in!!!!
No lol Beating Georgia & 4 top 25 teams gets you in 🙄
Of course, everyone doesn't want BAMA in there because they usually wreck a lot of dreams in a Playoff as usual.
do they deserve in, no. will they get in probably. I Clemson won against south carolina they would 100% be in right now, but now they really have to choose between bama, ole miss, and south carolina. South carolina is currently probably better than bama and ole miss but has lost to both. Then you have bama beating georgia plus south carolina and a close loss to Tennessee. Against ole miss who only has a ranked win against south carolina. You can say what you want about bama losses but ole miss lost to florida, which has one win over vandy and oklahoma. IMO either south carolina or bama get in and historically head to heads matter so I think bama gets in.
@@JustMeELCy’all shoulda dropped to #20 after the third loss. Be honest. They just be praying y’all get it together. End of day y’all trash. It will show again. Y’all make it in. This ain’t Saban days
Tennessee losing to Arkansas loomed on doom. Yet now it sort of makes a viable route now to get in the CFP.
Kansas was a pivotal team wreaking havoc in the final few weeks.
Ole Miss and South Carolina are two powerful 3 loss teams that got on the side of some bad luck.
If Clemson gets in and South Carolina does not expect some huge hate.
Clemson could and should have won in a blowout yesterday as bad as 31-0 but we have a terrible coaching staff and have been a shitty tackling team all year. We have more talent, by far, than every team on our schedule not named UGa, but we also have the worst and least experienced coaching staff in college football. Yet we still should be 11-1 but the Louisville and SC games were poor tackling and poor execution which of course is representative of coaching incompetence.
I look forward to this video every Sunday during the CFB season. I was SO disappointed to see that the episode was 18 minutes long … was hoping for at least an hour today.
How can you say only 2 SEC teams will get in? Texas, Georgia, and Tennessee will all definitely be in the CFP
No one said that
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@@XDesrathX6 He was talking about Championship game participants. Both SEC teams are getting in. That's why he just said Oregon and PSU for the Big 10.
Pretty funny seeing Finebaum say Texas finally got a big win bc Michigan won but has spent the last decade treating Alabama like God's greatest gift to earth for beating mostly bang average Sec teams and Chattanooga St in week 10
Alabama was the real deal for 15 years.... in the no debate in the toughest conference in Football. The SEC ! Everybody wanted to play for Saban. And there will never be that coach to beat his record. But the hate for Bama has been for so long. And Great Jealousy!! 18 National Titles. PERIOD.....
@@michaelcody4345how did they do against Utah
I kind of feel like Oregon is the most overlooked #1 team in recent memory. In a year of great teams losing when they shouldn't, Oregon is the only team to go undefeated. And the pundits are not saying much about them.
If Alabama makes the playoffs then the CFP is truly a F*CKING joke!
Bama # 1
@@geraldwaldrop5131no way they are boo
Matt, you must forget that Sherrone Moore coached in the Ohio State game and at least 4 total games last year and is now 2-0 against Ryan Day
What the officials did to Georgia Tech was shameful
what????? nothing to see there.
What a stupid thing to say. GT had 6 chances to win the game outright.
What did they do?
All I know is 2 years ago Bama didn’t get in despite 2 losses to top 10 teams on the road on the last play of the game. Everyone said it’s not who you lost to, it’s who did you beat? No signature wins, TCU got in and you see what happened. Who has Miami beaten? 2 losses and 2 more games saved by refs.
Why are you guys still talking about Alabama???
Because it’s ALA FREAKING BAMA!!!!! that’s why
Bama # 1
@ You mean the team that lost to Vanderbilt and got smoked by Oklahoma?! I think I understand now.
@@geraldwaldrop5131 I love it! 😂
Because they know who's in and who's out. That's why.
Could you imagine the conversation if this was still a 4 team playoff??? I would not want to try and sort that mess out.
Imagine thinking about firing a coach with 10 losses over 7 years. (No more than two losses in a season).
Like getting kicked out of college for not winning the debate even though you have a 3.8 gpa and brought in funding for the department.
There are at least 50 other coaches who could do the same thing at OSU. They need to find a coach who can win the big games.
We all say that but for the most part with the transfer portal we’re now at the point where any team can win on any given weekend regardless of record.
Here's a Hot Take: maybe instead of scraping the bottom of the barrel for a three loss team to fill out the roster, we consider a one loss Army, provided they beat Tulane on the 6th?
Army has played literally one team with a pulse and got their doors blown off. No.
@@thatrabidpotato8800 Every three loss team has at least one embarrassing loss. Alabama lost to Vandy and Oklahoma. Ole Miss to Kentucky and Florida. South Carolina was destroyed by Ole Miss.
Even two loss teams can screw the pooch. Ohio State played three ranked teams, and lost to one of them and had a loss to unranked Michigan. Arizona State, Iowa State, and Clemson have losses to unranked opponents. Georgia was destroyed by Ole Miss. Your argument is not as compelling as you might think.
Put any team with one are 2 lost before Bama
They’re going to use this to expand the playoff next year.
Day has been exposed, his career wins in the Big 10 proves the weakness of the conference. He’s beaten up on conference teams but can’t seem to get past Michigan and Oregon this year.
Couldn’t agree more.
Look when you think of it, if you hire the right coaches around you and recruit, you could be an 8th grade soccer coach and run OSU to 9 plus wins.
The big ten isn’t weak. Sec teams struggle against them in the playoffs all the time.
Agree but honestly he was exposed a few years ago
@@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT”all the time” lmao please tell me which big 10 teams have beaten sec teams other than bama losing to OSU in 2015 and bama losing to the cheaters in 2023? Name one game. Just one. I dare you. Bama is the only SEC team to lose to a big10 team in the playoffs… ever. And it only happened twice.