Polygamy is Ruining AFRICA More Than CORRUPTION| Ep. 166
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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I be watching your content on RUclips but you should start posting your content on Facebook too. Many times RUclips don't be notifying me when you post.
Yeah you stand on everything you said but doesn’t mean you are right. Based upon what you said it is clear you have no idea about the polygamy union.
Sis you are super wrong about polygamy and it's origins.
@@roberthoward7387 An not right to you just like your not right to me and that's fine with me, Stay polygamous and stay happy lol
@@AwnanNahalyah Keep being polygamous and grow your community
Polygamy is part of our legal system in South Africa. If you want to marry a second wife, you must be married in terms of Customary law & your first wife must consent to that marriage. If your second wife does not agree, your second marriage will be regarded as invalid by courts. Some men take a second wife because the first wife is unable to have children, then they decide to bring a second wife to the family to bear children. Sometimes the family has many businesses, they need assistance from someone they can trust, they may decide to bring a second wife…the first wife may help in choosing the correct person etc.
Perfect answer
so then hire somebody
@@mariejane1567 they are hired, that somebody is called the Third Director (Wife no.2)
And who takes care of the children in polygamy?? What role does the father have in polygamy?? What do Afrikan men leave for their children to survive and be self sufficient against invaders?? These Afrikan men can't even take care of raise one child. All they do is create poverty.
My good muslim friend told me that a good muslim woman would never disagree to his second marriage. What a mind F
Thanks for showing how much feminism is in East Africa. She said polygamy is foreign to Africa but not her wild feminism
And PROUD to be one lol..
Bingo, she is full of BS, I see right through her talking points, she puts down polygamy and African traditions saying black people are broken but recognizes the right to the LGBT community and is okay with them, maybe they need the therapy more than black people!
Men just can’t stand for women to stand in their own identity! Don’t you stand in yours? It only bother y’all cuz for some weird reason y’all think y’all are above us and desire to control us. That’s not how nature work, that’s the white and Arab mans doctrine brought to you by that good ole Bible and Quran!
She is right only a few countries in Africa have poly and by the way in most countries only the king/chief and chiefsman could be polygamous but the rest of the men couldn't participate
@@zarry1humanbeans402 she is full of BS, I see right through her talking points, she puts down polygamy and African traditions saying black people are broken but recognizes the right to the LGBT community and is okay with them, maybe they need the therapy more than black people!
Polygamy is a legalized relationship compared to having a side chick or side boyfriend 😂
What's the difference between a side chicken and a second woman?
@@essynatukunda polygamy is legal
Bingo
Most are already living polygamy and they don't even know it, especially in the US lol
@@theoracle6881 bruhhh🤣
Europeans did not bring polygamy to Uganda or Africa
True dat
@@essynatukunda Unless it was royalty or neccessary for rebalancing the population after war, I was brought in by the Arabs, who are so disgusting to their women.
Arabic colonizers did in the way they’re discussing. Not all colonizers are European
It would have been nice if there was ab expert on the panel, with an objective view, who could actually explain the historical, cultural, economic and social reasons for polygamy.
@@Jazz-fg2dm That is your subjective view. My comment still stands.
@@Jazz-fg2dm Muslims practice polygamy in Uganda and beyond
A few years ago I was in Uganda and the news was discussing polygamy and the law and it was Muslim women fighting to protect the right of Muslim men to have up to 4 wives
@@Gkbmoney Interesting. As far as I know itś still widely practiced across Africa. I do have friends who come from polygamous families and I always found it fascinating. They have great families and seem pretty normal. It would have been nice to hear the prospective of someone who understands polygamy from a sociological/anthropological perspective.
@@Gkbmoney women are willing to be side chick's or side wives for the man who has either money or clout which proves that most women are nothing but opportunists and should never be taken seriously they don't really want you for love but for an opportunity.
Polygamy is not only about sex…it's about building and growing a big family, thereby spreading the family name and leaving a legacy. When you die, you will never be remembered for how many cars and houses you had, your legacy will be your children/ family.
If you leave assets for your children then your legacy matters, if it's just children with nothing then you have a problem
obviously you cannot have polygamy when you are poor these days.
Stop it
@Ndagire No he don't.
word is bond.
Polygamy is becoming popular in Western societies now, plus Polygamy has always existed in Africa pre colonisation
Poligamy has always been apart of the African American community it just was always hidden due to the ramifications of the American Babylonian law and culture, how can a government say its against the law for a man to have two wives but the same government says it's ok for two men to get married and lay together GTFOH with that BS.
Where’s the proof? And if so I bet because of the Arabs! Like please provide the proof
The key to the conversation though is does it work as a society? I get frustrated with these topics of the past involving women because it's like so many things can happen in the past and be wrong or in this case, not conducive to their society. There are tons of things that were acceptable in the early years of African American history but much has changed because we as people evolved and both black men and women clap and say whew glad those days are over. But let it be about women specifically. Then it's oh who cares it was done years ago and it was ok. Women bring up dumb practices that they generally don't like or feel was disrespectful and men feel it's emotional but when Africans faced adversities that are no longer around because it was collectively seen as prehistoric inhumane then its ok man yall kick rocks !!!
Because of WAR!!!!, MEN WERE GOING TO WAR AND WOMAN WERE MADE WIDOWS WITH KIDS AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON NOT YOUR LUSTFUL SELFISH REASON
Are you sure about what you say?
If yes, then, let's ask Noah, and the other Ark survivors about that!
She will accept being a 3rd wife if presented by a man of proper resources and stature. They lying.
No thanks, am good..
She would not make it as a third wife... and their is a shortage of income and men in Africa so this is why it's necessary by men who can handle two families.... So who will provide foe the women who remain single then....
@@XxxclusiveReviews That's I I made my comment. Assuming a man who could afford 3 super nice homes for his 3 families. She would accept the lifestyle and arrangement.
I have seen feminists here in South Africa agree to be in a polygamist relationship with a billionaire guy.
@@Tebstechpodcast bless their hearts, lol
Polygamy is a sign of social imbalance. Not enough available men for every woman. Either due to a lack of numbers (caused by war) or lack of wealth amongst average men. When this imbalance exists, the few men --- with sufficient resources --- will frequently enjoy the company of many women. Conversely, women suffer from lack of choice. The ideal outrcome is to have society where the majority of men can thrive, and there is a good man for every woman.
with ur logic, do you think it is more beneficial for a society to put more resources into boys turning them into men with sufficient resources which women would like to marry.
It's just an alternative to divorce in Africa
@@rangobiiAbsolutely
The trans-atlantic kidnapping biz created a gender imbalance that re-inforced polygamy as an institution.
oh no you're a gold digger if you want a man with resources and a dumb arse if you with a dusty......
She makes some good points, but she’s conflating cheating with polygamy and polyamory.
It seems like it's about the money, I see right through her BS, if a dude with a wife guaranteed her a life of money, home and car and she didn't have to work I can almost bet she would agree. Listen to her really talk about getting therapy saying black people are broken and cancelling African traditions and recognizing the LGBT slogans.
@@theoracle6881 to be fair, Polygamy is meant to be about security. Each wife should have their own house. It’s not meant to be a dusty living with 3 women sharing the same bathroom.
In countries without a welfare state/ safety net, and limited wealthy men, polygamy makes sense. In wealthier countries they practice polyamory which is less about financial benefits.
The other lady describes Polygamy by saying each wife had the same house, and their children went to the same quality of school.
*Where it becomes difficult is in matters of inheritance.* Sometimes families can loose their homes when the patriarch dies. In countries with a strong rule of law, a legally binding will provide more protection. But how many practising polygamy know whether there’s a will?
If the houses remain in the husbands name the hier / eldest child or first family might feel entitled and less charitable towards the other families. This happens, and *that’s why some who have been evicted when the husband dies are against polygamy.*
She makes some great points as to why many wives isn't good.
The king has no wealth to properly care for them all.
That woman in that Blue dress is a jewel to the community! Intelligent, beautiful, and confident, she is very powerful for Africa! ♥️
She’s inaccurately harping on women’s preferences. These our the same women that hate 50/50. Men like money men like women 🚫🧢
In short polygamy is not a whiteman thing. Its about survival and economics.
🙏🏿 🙏🏿 🙏🏿
This sister in the middle is not rational enough to discuss this subject in a mature fashion.
Sorry if your not hearing pleasing words for your comfort
True, she sounds bitter. She'll come around though as she ages.
Sadly discussing Polygamy in the view of Feminism or Chauvinism will not show the true reflections of it. I am not from Uganda but it seems from what those ladies are saying, in Uganda Polygamy was imported to them by their colonizers. To share my knowledge and experience, in Southern Africa Polygamy is a Ba-Ntu tradition of many a years back. Women and Men consent into it even today. It was never solely reserved for kings or queens. It was a practice of family planning and family pride, nothing more. Our Clan Names even tell the story of that. Monogamy is the thing that was imported to us in the Southern parts of Africa.
Same thing exist upon nilotic peoples in the east, the young women was ignorant about our history. Marriage is a means of consolidating alliances with different clans and bloodlines. The notion of romantic relationships being the basis of marriage is a western idea, marriage has always been primarily for the family and secondary the sharing of love between a couple. To forsake polygamy is to negate your own existence and your clan, our forefarthers married multiple women and propagated their seed. We lived in egalitarian societies where every child, women and man's need were accounted and taken cared for.
@@IsaacT123 thank you for clarifying, I was too afraid to go that route of calling the young ladies ignorant mainly because I wasn't too familiar with story they were talking about. But is definitely a shame to mislead people they way that they have. Worse they are even a product of Western Importation by playing the role of Angry Black Woman. I feel sorry for the men that will marry such difficult women
This is absolutely spot on, thank you and blessings@@IsaacT123
You are spot on.
Exactly !@@RastaAfricanGentleman
For non-Bantus is easier for them to reject polygamy whereas for bantus is part of the culture.
Since when?
bullshiiit
It is part of our culture
@essynatukunda, to respond to your question, Since when? Since our creation and the promise So NiNi na NiNi made to Isak. Our ancestors have been polygamists if it does not make sense to you, better check your history. You have chosen a picture of a successful polygamy marriage and through your conversations you come out as polygamy is bad for Africa. It would be much better if you guys have used a picture of a failed polygamy marriage, or you guys are just talking without hard facts and wasting time for most of people who knows the history.
Which country or countries are bantu
The young lady is sweet but she really doesn't know what she is talking about. No matter how many times Oshay explained to her Polygamy is an agreement between the pluar parties but she was still fixed on a man sneaking around with another woman. Everyone is not broken, clearly after listening to her the entire time she was just projecting.
Do you give the same grace to interracial relationships since it's still agreed upon by two individuals?
Absolutely, I've even been in an interracial relationship. Now I am in a serious relationship with a woman from Nairobi I met from the Pan African Dating Show. I will say this, Polygamy will breed resentment from other men that don't have the ability to attract at least one woman. But natural order is survival of the fittest and it is not possible for every man to have a woman because there are more women on this planet than men. But if you are broke you don't deserve even one woman.
@@W_DreamI agree on the second statement and that's my point I was making.. but it's something we can't control at the end of the day
@Ndagire most interracial relationships as far as african women is base of greed.. And most wyt men come to Africa to look for a broke african women to mistreated her and most of these wyt men are racist and have fetish to come to africa broke and still find multiple partners... now what's your point now..
@@Ndagireyou can control if you say no to polygamy. boom you have control. But that doesn’t stop the man from going to the next woman and seeing if it works for her .
what i pick up from the women on the panel is that a mans only value is how much money and wealth he has not his character or willingness to work hard and provide. This attitude is not fitting for a woman any man should marry or put his life on the line for if duty ever arises. My beloved Uganda has fallen to the modern female cancer. Good men of Uganda who are truly good hearted venture out if you want a peaceful marriage and woman who respects you.
Am sorry let me help you understand the this conversation, it's about *polygamy* meaning what men need to have to be polygamous.. Having wealth because character you mean doesn't put food on the kids table on polygamy
You NEED money to take care of your family. Character won't put food on the table or pay the bills.
Polygamy requires maturity, not emotional love.
This lady is complaining about broke guys having a lot of sex, but is forgetting that these guys are not having sex with themselves.
Excuse me my argument is about being with one woman and man to grow and create a healthy relationship and wealthy..😏
You are me I am you😂
@@NdagireIf a woman want one man, she can get a man equal to her or less than her. If a woman want money from a man, that man have the right to have more woman
In America you can have 8 kids with 8 different women but if you stand up and say you want to be responsible for all of them and be legally bound to the mothers, you go to jail.
What's wrong with one woman having for you 5 kids if she can.. why go to other different women in the first place ?
In slavery times, massa bred blk men with ...sisters, aunts, cousins, and even with their mother, and like in Africa, children are everywhere and are unaware they are marrying their siblings.
Mental illness runs rampant in the blk community, that's why America had Laws against close relatives marriages...like blood test before you can marry.
Preach
What law stops you from being financially responsible for the children you create? Or does your idea of 'responsible' mean rights over other people's choices without duties?
@@kelugu3776 I think Kyler typed his comment wrong. I believe he means that if a man steps up and says that he is going to be financially responsible and bound (being in the children's lives as a father) for all 8 of his children then that's fine, but if he says he is going to bound to his 8 baby mothers, then he is going to jail (ridiculed, mocked, etc).
Could be wrong, but that's what I got from it.
I had a woman tell me she would like to be my second wife. She said she just doesnt want to be any lower than that. She wanted to be part of my life and she wanted a time commitment. She had a daughter and she wanted her to have a father figure to look up to. She was crazy lol. She also told me she would cut me. Thin line...
😂😂😂
That story took a sharp turn 😂
@digitalsidestreet6235 lol I see what you did there! A very sharp turn! (Pun intended)
🤣 Danger!!! Danger!!! Danger!!!
Stranger danger 😂😂
Polygany (a man having multiple wives) is not about sneaking around and hiding. That's abuse.
People go into polygamy because they want to. Not everyone is for it and not everyone is not for it.
I think it's a sign that women are cheap
@@essynatukunda women have always been cheap, even the monogamous wives we marry are cheap.
Funny how certain lifestyle is OK but polygamy is a taboo subject.
@@koffi3415 madness 😄
@@essynatukunda Nothing of the sort and has been around since before Jesus but same sex union is acceptable.
So many stories about wives poisoning other wives and children being treated unequally.
Men and women should be treated equally. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. 😊
You guys need to have part 2 on this topic and bring persons on who are in a polygamous relationship. I was lil disappointed you guys didn't had Gab on this episode.
He wasn't available this day
Please have him on for a round 2 please
Defiantly need a part 2 to this episode. I'm actually coming to Uganda in the new year to take a second wife. Keep up the great work.
No weapon formed against polygamy will prosper. You just can't do away with it, not only in Africa. It only gets bad when mismanaged, but it's a disliked necessity. You’ll either chose polygamy or promiscuity but you can't rule it out. It has it's merits and demerits.
its men that came out of a polygamous household that say they wouldn't let their own daughters be in a polygamous relationship 😮
this 1 is a cover up because a gender has issues with loyalty and faithfulness!
So if polygamy is good, then you shouldn't have a problem with a women having multiple husbands too.
sure if she is willing to pay for it like the man… but we know they don’t want to be responsible financially for a life time
@@KBTheGeneralrelationships is not about financial only. It’s about being there for the other. Women are good at keeping things organized and together. Managing multiple men would make more sense
@@NDionneG005 woman barely can manage their emotions imagine them trying to manage others. women have many moments when they are not accessible sexually to their partner. how is she suppose to please multiple men? you have periods that limit your sex with your partner and you have moments where your vagina is sore or swollen from sex. Plus she can only carry one baby at a time and how is each father suppose to know which bloodline is his? a woman having multiple husbands doesn’t make any sense. and you skipped right over finances.. that woman is not capable of getting pregnant and still putting in the hours to keep her household running the same.
this is a great episode. look, polygamy is not a "curse." that is ridiculous. people say this when the people practicing polygamy are from african descent. if the polygamists are jewish, then all if a sudden it would be considered a "blessing."
polygamy is a very good thing as long as the man is stable, he is upfront, and he has a plan if he passes away.. and like oshay said, if all the people in the polygamy relationship agree, then that is their business and their right.
It was in the Bible to. Alot of them had more than one wife. If a man can financially afford it and wants to build that way its fine. I was in the middle east for 3 years and it's normal there to have more than one wife.
@@jameswill2017 actually, this has existed before the hebrew bible ever existed. we really do not need any jewish book to give credit to the idea of having multiple wives. this idea comes from pagan societies originally.
@@jameswill2017the difference is that the Arabs can afford it.
@@nightwishisthegreatestband6355 so your saying wealthy African Americans and Africans can't.
@jondo3817, I agree with you. The day white people start practicing polygamy, black people will approve and practice polygamy 200%
Children are not your legacy , what you do for them and for your community is your legacy. Especially if you want anyone to see you as the level of a leader or king. If you are not financially capable to sustain more than one family you have no business creating several children and taking those women out of an opportunity to create a healthy family with someone else. Its selfish, wasteful, and damaging to the community.
I love how she said you”can’t live anyone else equally lol basically admitting it’s not impossible it’s just impossible for her
You ever been in a successful poly relationship? 😂
@@knowledgetree7134yes
If certain women out there get down with polygamy, more power to them. I just don’t care for the way that it’s being pushed on the black community as a whole. Do you, but remember, it’s only for those who embrace it. Period.
I will NOT be in a polygamous relationship period!
I was married for 20 years to an amazing black king. He did NOT believe in multiple women or wives. I am now a widow, and I would not get remarried since polygamy is being pushed as a reinstatement for us blacks.
I don’t do polygamy or interracial relationships and marriages. Period!
No, I would never make any exceptions of any super stars or otherwise to cheat on my man with, and wouldn’t stay if I found out that he did it either.
However like Oshay said, it’s not my business what these folks do, but respect the fact that there are some of us that
do not believe in it and do not owe an explanation as to why we don’t embrace it, and I don’t t care if a man is rich to take care of me. He can’t pay me to knowingly enter into a polygamist relationship. Keep your money.My husband left me in a very capable position.
Glad to hear these ladies being able to speak out on how they feel about this practice. I’m sure they had to watch many elder women endure this quietly, but those days are over , and I’ve noticed that a lot of young black women are starting to walk away and focus on careers and education rather than stay and compromise with these kinds of situations.
There's nothing wrong with polygamy provided those involved are happy and well looked after. That's African culture.
Polygamy stems from economic reasons. In the olden days when different tribes or nations war they would married the rival groups to expand their empire or bring peace. Or for example the brother of the late husband of the widow would marry her to support his brother family.
It's stems from agricultural societies, where many hands were needed to work the land & economic output was based on how much agricultural output a family produced.
Further to this child bearing & child birth were treacherous for women & life expectancy for children was also low. Having many children was the way to ensure future generations & survival.
yes, very true. and quite frankly, we do need wealthy black men to provide for the many black single mothers that exist. this is also the role of men. it is not just about marrying virgin wives.
this is difficult, but it "comes with the territory." personally, if i do decide to have more than 1 wife, this definitely would be part of my planning. but i would need to have already established stability with at least 2 wives first who were not single mothers.
if i can manage the first two and my own children with these two, then i would start maybe trying to help and marry single mothers who are alone with their children. of course, this will cost them something and they will have specific roles to play. as stable men, we have a duty to bring stability to other people in our community.
@@jondo3817 🤣🤣🤣
You're delusional lol@@jondo3817
a lot of the nuances and examples shes describing in her qualms about polygamy are mostly from instances where the man is most likely monogamous then cheats and creates a new family. From my knowledge polygamy is when there is consent from both parties and the results are sealed within marriage. The two qalms the women are expressing are actually disputes with polyamory not really polygamy. Polygamy presents structure, polyamory doesn't. In actuality women of today hate the idea of structure so they bash polygamy but are all okay with cheating and being entrenched in polyamorous relationships as long as they don't know. They want to be delulu! The same way women want to steal men in marriages/relationships, they love to equip monogamous spouses with the ability to cheat. The love cheating but hate structure that stops it. I believe this is a take missing from this discussion.
The only thing to blame is the society which has conditioned men to be in monogamous relationships and unfortunately its only failing the africans inland and in the diaspora. The only tool monogamy has equipped men/women is the ability to cheat.
Ndagire is confused. Polygamy predates money and colonialism. It was a way of growing families and abolishing orphans. If a woman's husband dies early, she then became the responsibility of the relative that would be assigned the responsibility, then continue to have more children. If also a woman could not bear children, her relative would be asked to come fulfil the role.
Colonisation came and didn't even want to recognise those Customary marriages and made people lose their inheritances because they preferred to see one civil marriage certificate, which only made provision for one spouse.
😂😂how?
Cause the corruption in africa is on a whole different level
Proverbs 18:22 when a man find a wife he finds a good thang and obtain favor from THe Most High..not wives but wife. Period.
Genesis God made Eva for Adam
But God did not frown upon Solomon with all his wives and concubine.
So I think to each his own. Solomon was able to take care of his wives and concubine
So While I wouldn't do it in my life other do and should if they can take care of all of them ethe same... Shalom
Speak i posted that earlier
these people don't believe in God!
I like your take on this 😊
You forgot to mention when God said Solomon did evil in his sight because of the women
What is saying is how a man finds wife it has nothing to do with the number of wives
Joanita I applaud you for always keeping it classy unlike these two ladies wearing skimpy outfits.
😂😂lol
But it's hot and humid in Africa...besides...in some places in Africa they are considered overdressed. #nationalgeographic
come on man, you know we men like to see women dressed like that and it is attractive for us. just be real with yourself and stop judging people for what clothes they wear.
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@@openbob6656 Speak for yourself bro, not me.
I love O’shay channels the brother be coming with the heat!!!
As people continue to evolve topics like this is like talking about religion…it is time to choose how you want to live your life individually! Kevin Samuels truly had it right!
Kevin Samuels lived in a shallow man's paradise. His views were backwards, grasping, and shallow.
@@khem127 You are either a modern woman or g** KS was the voice of real men.
Kevin Samuels was shallow, bringing people down to their lowest level. nothing about heart, creativity, all the things that make people special.
@@SP_Dso this is why the loneliness epidemic is increasing among men? And your women are decentering you and refusing to have anything to do with you? Why your su!c!de rates are up? Keep listening to a man who died alone and not even the hookup stayed by his side.
@@khem127he was our last frontier 😢 the voice of men everywhere. He did a lot while he was here glad we still have his videos
In South Africa before colonisation , you didn't have to be a king to have more than one wife . Women are a majority here & in order to have a balance so that everyone can get married men ended up having more than 1 wife .
Would you join the mselekus tho ?
It’s not ruining the country! Corruption and colonialism is. That’s a African custom that’s been practiced for centuries!!
Ugandan men if you are hard working honest transparent and just to a woman. If this is the attitude in women you have to deal with consider other horizons. I am saddened because Uganda has been my number one nation to find a beautiful black wife. Is it me as i don't want to be just disappointed in the attitude of the two women aside of the more balanced perspective of the one on the far right. could these two negative sisters of experienced trauma or seen neglect. Whaaaaaaaaat most Ugandan men struggle to get a date or partner im in shock. I know whats going on, all the women are competing for the top 15% of men why the majority are treated similar.
You're wrong there buddy, actually talk to the men in Uganda and find out what's really going on. You'll find the problems are coming from their end, most those dudes there aren't serious about anything, they can't even handle a monogamous relationship, let alone a polygamous one in itself. There's some much adultery/infidelity going on there it's not even funny. Alot of dudes there not trying to have multiple wives, they just want multiple sex partners. Nothing wrong with it, but they not even honest about it.
Thank you so much for the fantastic show. Really enjoying hearing these beautiful, intelligent and extremely articulate women. Polyamory (unofficial polygamy) is becoming more fashionable in western countries, so this kind of relationship happens everywhere. Countries and gender aside, I don't believe there is any person on earth who is happy to see the person they truly love with another person - it hurts, I don't care who you are.
I love the middle chic’s mindset, perception and stance👏🏽👏🏽…
Of course you would !
@@theoracle6881 it’s not “of course,” as if I’m just agreeing because she’s a woman, there are three women up there, it’s her energy and delivery that sets her apart.
Wealth has often been used as a tool for one to manipulate another, but when you truly operate from a foundation of good character and values (and yes the same or similar positive character traits exist across multiple cultures around the world) most all negative actions would cease or deemed/perceived as less challenging or less of a hindrance to continued positive growth.
The channel is lately delivering better Mazima
who is mazima lol
Like ts has got a lot to offer... Every time I get notified I be excited... Ts so active and interesting. Btw thnxx for keeping it going. You guys followed me on X it made me happy mwebale nnyoo
I'm so Elated to see all that AUTHENTIC MELANIN in the room keep up the great dialogs
sis is expressing her personal pain and calling it a general issue
Polygamy is not synonymous to recklessness, irresponsibility, non-accountability BUT corruption is in all its forms.
This woman is mixing polygamy with cheating and dumping on all adult relationships that she doesn't approve of just because of her friend's experience. Let consenting adults live as they please without your judgement pls.
Exactly and polygamy is not just about a man having more than one wife it is based on economic, political and community well being which she never mentions.
No, we are going to call it out. Its destructive to the community and unnatural. I watch animals that practice it and typically the male doesn't stay long and is removed by a stronger, better male. Let's be real, men would rather compete with money and now that women have money more and more soon this shit will be dead.
Ive seen programs about polygamy. It seems interesting and I can see how it has a place in society and how it can work well. Also it's a family situation where the mothers can support eachother and the family together. I think it can work if people put egos aside and have a communal mindset.
I have a friend here that has 4 wives...you should get their opinions on the subject. It would make for a VERY interesting show Im sure.
What polygamy really boils down to is what is found in the Bible at 1 Corinthians 6:9-12...
So, one might ponder:
What's truly important in life?
Dying a fool or entering a life problem free?
😊 my dear sister, polygamy has been part of African culture as long as Africans have existed. It isn't a colonial thing, Europeans as with Christianity, introduced a nuclear family to the African community.
Most polygamous marriages I know are by rich men who can afford to keep his ladies. Any woman marrying a poor man who already have another wife and can't even support her has a problem. In the West where polygamy is illegal, we have the highest rate of broken marriage.
Is it ok for a man or woman to get married several times or sleep around with different partners just because we are against polygamy/polyandry?
The way I see it, it's better to be in a relationship where you know all parties involved than to be in an unfaithful relationship. It's also much better for the children.
But each to his/her own. I think we all should what makes us happy.
It was great seeing Ndagire and Esther on the channel again!
After doing a little research on polygyny, and confirming the utilitarian nature of a polygynous arrangement, I wonder what motivates 21st century women to engage in the practice?
It's very simple. Culture and resources. It's a trade off.
Men are as polygamous as women are hypergamous. This is nothing new, it has been like this from the beginning of time. If a woman does not like successful men having multiple women then they need to start being more receptive to broke to average earning men. In the early 1900's working class men were the ones that married one wife and built strong amazing families. The rich afluent men were not the ones building the strong families. But for some reason, now-a-days women look down on hard working blue collar men...
Even in America there is polygamy despite being illegal and is practiced in Utah. Middle East Qatar and Dubai have polygamy and are considered very developed. Africa has systemic problems and corruption,, polygamy is not a concern
in some cultures if you are a man that can have more than one wife and don't you are looked at as wicked. in that community it is not looked at as how many wives a man can get, it is rather viewed from the scope of making sure every woman has a husband
yes i’ve heard multiple elders and young african tribesman tell me this ! glad to see it’s common knowledge 😊
POINT OF CORRECTION: WHITE COLONIALISTS DID NOT BRING POLYGAMY TO AFRICA. POLYGAMY IN AFRICA PREDATES COLONIALISM. PLEASE, GO AND READ.
Polygamy is a choice just like the GOD you serve and worship. And no one is perfect but GOD
In the west it’s already being practiced.
Same dudes multiple children by multiple women. Government foots the bill.
At least make the practice legal so it can be done properly.
Peace to kenganda
I’m stateside
Virginia to be exact
It was also failed to mention that a lot of these women were groomed to believe it's ok since they're little girls and are usually married off very young, so not really so much of a "choice".
Polygamy is patriarchal. Polyamory is matriarchal.
I would choose Juanita maaya any day because of her willingness to discuss issues..
Polygamy was a system that had utility when we lived in clan based societies where the village collectively was tasked with raising children but as the continent is making the transition towards industrialist capitalist societies and urban communities are becoming prominent, polygamy isn't necessarily conducive in regards to the proper raising and rearing of children in todays world.
Or today's world isn't for the people 🤷🏿♂️
As long as there is single moms , polygomy is a better option for the kids
@@UnitedStatesofAsantemangsome of them were abandoned by the men WHILE MARRIED. Marriage won't solve it. Women should have kids when they are ready.
@@chriszugu8422the better option would be for men to respect their seed and not let it bloom every like weed.
The young woman is right. The problem is that most of the men who engaged in polygamy aren't rich men but poor as f*ck. Rich men marry rich and educated women and have one wife. All over Africa, there are children's homes filled with kids. My African friend is the oldest of 13 kids of a man who died in his 30s, leaving behind three wives. My friend, being the oldest, is technically responsible for all those kids. She talks about how her family has suffered from poverty. My friend is a lovely person but just born in a weird society. She has four kids by different men and thinks God will take care of her.
Thanks am glad you understand about of my argument. sending love to your friend, alot of AFRICANS ard going through the same thing.
I used to think that taking what women want into consideration was an important ethic. Now, that i have seen what such a mentality has done to western womem, I honestly can say I could careless what women want. Why? Because every society has shown thus far that when women get the upperhand, they could careless what men or society want.
😅 I have no idea how this conversation went. Just because someone is loud doesn’t mean they're knowledgeable
Long Live Polygamy and Polyandry.
No. Monogamy makes stable societies.
@@MonDieuMaCauseMonEpeehow stable is america? how stable is London? monogamy is kid a bandaid for society it’s a tool to give men a fair chance at companionship
@jayd1168 America and U.K. may have their issues but they are leaps and bounds more stable than any polygamous society.
It would be useful if the definition of polygamy could be stated at the beginning of the conversation. The conflation of polygamy, cheating and baby mamma culture was getting annoying
The little resources these men do have should be used to create wealth to sustain and grow the living quality for their people. Not feeding more mouths they can't take care of.
What's love got to do with it? It's about economics and wealth creation. Its not fair that a rich man to give his wealth and resources to one woman, he needs to practice group economics and be polygamous
Ooooooo my gosh feminism has now taken root in my beloved Uganda. This was by far the number one African nation where the most pure African wives in culture and values could be found. The war on polygamy is the modern African woman's attempt to replicate western woman's norms and values that is actually failing in the west. Or is it that men Practicing polygamy in Uganda are not for filling the responsibility and requirements needed to support more than one wife.
Come find out
You make no sense Ugandan 🇺🇬 is a Christian nation & most are raised in Christian homes and attend Christian schools. Ugandans claim Christianity as part of Ugandan culture, Christian values are at odds with Polygamous practices.
@@dugebuwembo😂😂 my dear come find out and then have a say
I just got here. Rewinding and watching from the beginning
This woman is conflating polygamy and cheating. They are not the same.
Polygamy and misogyny are two different things. Not all Polygamists are misogynistic. A Monogamist can be a misogynist.
Having said that, not all men have the financial means, the understanding, skills nor strength of character, required to run a polygamous home.
Its a problem that women cant express they want to sleep with many men? Do women really think men and women are the same? When a men sleeps with a woman, it is assumed that he will bear the responsibility of the child if conceived. If a woman sleeps with a man, will she be responsible? Furthermore, if a woman sleeps around, how can she insure paternity? And if she does, will it be with a man who can provide? The calculation in sleep around in absolutely different for men and women.
Comparing Polygamy to Corruption is Wild
It's corruption n dirty
The young lady stated that the white man brought polygamy to Africa. I do not understand polygamy at all. Because she has been brainwashed by the white man that polygamy is wrong. And when women use cheating is polygamy they are incorrect cheating is cheating cheating is not knowing the person is saying someone else that is cheating. Because a man is dated one woman and then they didn't another woman and the other woman do not know about the other one in essence it is polygamy but in practice it is not because the two women do not know each other. What the white man brought to Africa is the disdain for polygamy. If the young lady knew where polygamy was originated she would not have said that the white man brought polygamy to Africa. The ligament was not created by men . It was created by women and if she remembered anything about her African ancestry she knows that in the past it was a taboo for a woman not to be married or not to have children. One of the things about men we kill each other off we always going to war The women realize that there are less and less men in the village in more and more women in the village to solve the problem of not being married and not having children the women agreed to share the men. Because there were not enough men in the village.
It's okay.that we have polygamy bcos 1 man with 2 or 4 wivies help to make our African population grow bcos our enemies are fighting harder and smarter to destroy our families and Women bcos we needs our population to grow so as to build greatly.imagime Africa SHD have like 6 billions to 9 billions people in Africa.simple
No matter how much you hate polygamy this headline is insane. Corruption is the worst problem in Africa and the cause of wars, death, ignorance, and poverty.
Not men having multiple women. That would be absurd.
Usually, when it becomes about more than one woman, it's no longer about love... or marriage... or children... It's about sex.
the title is about polygamy in Africa but the guests base their arguments on Ugandan culture, polygamy is different for different communities all over Africa
🤓🤓🤓 I cannot believe NDAGIRE and Esther is on your platform. I will like to say, hello beautiful ladies.😂😘😘
Hello darling❤
Ndagire will calm down, 5yrs tops. They're all passionate at her age 😂 The older ladies are quiet for a reason. Joanita was kind of like this at the beginning of Kenganda but she's calmer now. You can be passionately wrong.
This woman is clearly projecting her fears because disrespectful? Joanita has a good perspective on it though. In any case, the negative arguments against it aren’t going to move the needle 🤷🏾♂️😂 SIGN language.
I agree with her. I feel it's disrespectful too.
My man is my man, my one and only.
9:40 14:00
Disrespect is Disrespect. Someone being Disrespected has nothing to do with polygamy.
This is the same old issue of women having been conditioned to believe that they are the same as men. It goes waaaay back to the beginning of things.
If this was a S.A.T question it would women are to "want to be like men" as men are as "want to be their own god"
A man that findeth a wife findeth a good thing and obtains favor with God! Only 1 not wives! Jesus fix it 😇
Thank you❤
I’d like to hear more conversations with different perspectives and different guest ,man and women to dive deeper into this subject matter because I don’t believe there’s something wrong with polygamy but how it’s done and with lack of knowledge and understanding then it gets this bad name..
Please invite more people to talk about this,I’d like to hear Prof and the lady with the Afro discussion on this ✨
Dead wrong. Protect your energy
8:40 one could use this same line of reasoning to say it is disrespectful to have more than one child because you can never love them equally
Some women nature's are not the same with their health
“Don’t you think it’s high time we stop blaming white people for what’s happening in our societies today?”
Biggest truth bomb in this episode.
Preach
You can't listen to what women say pay attention to what they react too.If a man is cheating he is cheating with another woman that know's he has more than one woman.When i was single no woman wanted me until i had a girl friend now i got more than what i can handle.Women only want you if you have a girl or better two girl friend's.Its not the men you have to worry about its the ladies that are lining up for the men who is married.
Its just Form of having Many gods, shows a lack of Maturity, Loyalty and quite frankly a lack true Discipline.