If you're looking at the Ultra Bee - you kind of also have to look at E-moto offereings from other ('real' motorcycle) companies like KTM, Electric Motion, Zero, and Alta. Yes, most of those are significantly more expensive - but, in some case the adage of "you get what you pay for" holds very true. Some of the above companies have been making gas dirt bikes for decades and have a lot more experience and manufacturing capability than Sur-Ron. (edit-additional comment): The draw of the SurRon is (was) it's 'stealth' status where you could get away with riding it as a mountain bike. Not strictly legal, but it was stealth enough you could get away with it in a lot of cases. When you step up to a more 'real' dirtbike, that goes out the window and you are no longer in that stealth category. It's obviously a dirtbike. And... once you enter in that 'obviously a dirtbike' category that opens up the playing field to other 'real dirtbikes' (which the light bee isn't).
Yeah the other companies certainly have superior offerings in some cases. That being said, the draw to us was never the stealth factor but more-so the weight and geometry of the bike. Riding a full size gasser through tight trails is always so cumbersome and they never descended very well. Coming from a background of MTB and riding gas bikes, the light bee was the perfect cross over. We haven’t been too stoked on the offering from other companies for that specific application (EM may be the exception). We’d love to test them all of course!
@@SWS509 LBX stands a better chance on mountain bike trails and Street applications per Class 3 Ebike Requirements. The Ultra is a Dirtbike weight alone .
Except... if you hang the U.S. flag vertically, with the union (stars) on the left and then step around behind it - the union will then appear on the right side. C'mon man, think it through.
Don’t know if you got one yet but I’ve ordered from Alibaba from changzhou gonped still waiting as only entered shipping container seems legit answered all my questions as long as covered by trade assurance think should be sweet as cant 100% verify since I haven’t got it yet but definitely seems like it will be they sent a video of the ultra bee package with my name and phone number stuck on it
You will love it. They RIP! I just finished building mine out. Will be posting more content in the future.
i love videos that show how to assemble new bikes and the replacement of parts including upgrades. you guys give great info with your vids
Love that Soundgarden shirt 👏👏
Love the ultra bee. I kind of compare it to a stark varg. Hey there's a video you guys should do 🤔🤔🤔
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Nice job my dude! This video had way more and better infos than I anticipated! I subbed!
Great video. Are you guys looking into the talaria sting R?
Possibly, we were trying to mix it up with a different style with this one.
I wish these bikes could have a seat swap etc to make it more light bee looking and not full on dirt bike
If you're looking at the Ultra Bee - you kind of also have to look at E-moto offereings from other ('real' motorcycle) companies like KTM, Electric Motion, Zero, and Alta.
Yes, most of those are significantly more expensive - but, in some case the adage of "you get what you pay for" holds very true.
Some of the above companies have been making gas dirt bikes for decades and have a lot more experience and manufacturing capability than Sur-Ron.
(edit-additional comment): The draw of the SurRon is (was) it's 'stealth' status where you could get away with riding it as a mountain bike. Not strictly legal, but it was stealth enough you could get away with it in a lot of cases. When you step up to a more 'real' dirtbike, that goes out the window and you are no longer in that stealth category. It's obviously a dirtbike. And... once you enter in that 'obviously a dirtbike' category that opens up the playing field to other 'real dirtbikes' (which the light bee isn't).
Truth Be Told !
Yeah the other companies certainly have superior offerings in some cases. That being said, the draw to us was never the stealth factor but more-so the weight and geometry of the bike. Riding a full size gasser through tight trails is always so cumbersome and they never descended very well. Coming from a background of MTB and riding gas bikes, the light bee was the perfect cross over.
We haven’t been too stoked on the offering from other companies for that specific application (EM may be the exception). We’d love to test them all of course!
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This is a WAY different application. It fills the gap between mountain bike and Moto.
@@SWS509 LBX stands a better chance on mountain bike trails and Street applications per Class 3 Ebike Requirements. The Ultra is a Dirtbike weight alone .
no ABS on these just traction control, make sure to run F3 in sport mode
Depends... They have (switchable) ABS in Europe...
Yall ever have run-in w bears out there or other wild life?
In Canada we saw some black bears. At this trail system in particular though we saw a huge moose last year… very random
Fellas when you display a flag always display union to the left. Please look at flag display rules.
Except... if you hang the U.S. flag vertically, with the union (stars) on the left and then step around behind it - the union will then appear on the right side.
C'mon man, think it through.
Your not "step around behind it" when viewing the video, what a magoo..
Anyone know of a legit Alibaba seller? They're 9k in Australia stores
Don’t know if you got one yet but I’ve ordered from Alibaba from changzhou gonped still waiting as only entered shipping container seems legit answered all my questions as long as covered by trade assurance think should be sweet as cant 100% verify since I haven’t got it yet but definitely seems like it will be they sent a video of the ultra bee package with my name and phone number stuck on it
@@Londue no I haven't and still eager. Please keep me updated. Where are you based? I'm in Perth.... How can I contact you.. so many questions 😂
@@Londue how much has it cost? I'm checking them out now
@@Londue changzhou gonped intelligence yea?