Double Bell VSR 10 - Quick Disassembly and Performance Test
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2018
- Picked up a Double Bell VSR-10 and decided to take it apart.
This is my first "high-grade" Airsoft Sniper Rifle so I don't know much about it beyond operation and maintenance.
The Double Bell VSR-10 only comes with one 30-round magazine and a speed-loader.
The scope, bipod, and Maple Leaf AUTOBOT 60 Hop Bucking are all optional parts that we installed after purchase.
You get you like for the rad 80's rock and beeing the only Channel breaking the down internals of this rifle
and how do you do the teflon mod?
How long is the piston,Cyclinder and the spring?
Hi, what's the name of the bipod? And where did you purchase it from? Thanks
The Bipod I used is a Harris Type and I purchased it from Tuks' Shop.
It was the best looking bipod on display and it only came in a plastic bag so I don't know what brand it is.
Forgot the price, maybe PHP 1500-2000, but got it with a discount because I also bought the Scope and a couple bags of 0.3s that day.
Matibay ba ang stock piston ng unit na yan?kaya ba ang m180 spring(600fps)
Can you rack the bolt and fire it without putting the bolt handle back down?
The bolt has to be down to pull the trigger - it's a safety mechanism built into the bolt to prevent slam firing.
hello I just recently installed the edgi kit on my dbell vsr 10 however the groupings are terrible, I still use the stock spring and bucking tho since the m220 spring is hard af to rack
Supposedly groupings will improve with a 6.01 inner barrel, upgraded hop-bucking, and .04 or heavier BBs.
I haven't been able to get the right length 6.01 for my DB VSR-10 so I can't confirm any performance change.
For the teflon fix, simply use a layer or two of teflon tape anywhere there's a separation along the air way like the piston nozzle screw and the gap between the inner barrel and the hop-bucking.
@@haringduga4026 i used the 5.98 inner barrel from edgi and use .30 jer bbs, I ordered a maple leaf autobot 70° bucking is that okay?
The Autobot bucking should improve grouping and increase FPS by 8-12, but if you already have a 5.98 installed and the grouping is as wide as the stock inner barrel, then it might need a hop chamber upgrade to control the BB spin.
I use the stock spring, stock inner barrel, the Autobot 70, and 0.3g BBs and I get fliers every few shots.
Does it come stock with 45° or 90° trigger sear? Piston looks like 45° model but I'm not 100% sure.
The Double Bell VSR-10 has stock 45-Degree sear - so far hasn't broken, but then I don't use this enough to cause that much strain.
I estimate about 1,500 Shots overall since purchase.
Where did you purchase the scope? many thanks
I got the accessories from Tuk's Airsoft in Pasay
Hi... What is the length of the inner barrel? Coz im planning to upgrade my dbell vsr10 inner barrel
The Inner Barrel should be 430mm for the full length, and about 303mm for the G-Spec bull barrels.
I'd recommend getting an accurate measurement of your inner barrel to be sure since you're going to replace it anyway.
Hi..I just want to ask if the stock piston and spring guide are all ready CNC METAL or your unit was already upgraded?
Thanks😊
All stock - no upgrades besides an Autobot 70 Hop Bucking.
i see, so it is already pre upgraded..nice👌
no need for any modification if you want to use it in just plain plinking.
Thanks😊
They are the stock parts matte, so no, they arent upgrades
compatible ba ang maple leaf m145 spring at maple leaf hop up chamber?
I don't know anyone that's done modifications to a Double Bell VSR-10, but as far as I understand, as long as the parts were meant for a Tokyo Marui VSR-10, they're compatible with the Double Bell VSR-10.
Paps, is this the wood version or just brown-painted polymer? Tsaka, kamusta naman ung quality until now, ung performance ok parin ba? Daghang Salamat.
This is the Polymer stock that imitates wood.
I just took it out of storage to test it for problems and I'm glad to say nothing has broken and it still shoots the way I left it almost a year ago.
Paps, anong scope yan?
The scope is a BSA Contender; likely a bootleg.
I can't remember the model number, all I know is I saw it on the shop display and it looked good so I bought it.
You can check Tuk's Shop near Buendia if they still have one.
Bro I have the same VSR 10, Do you think its compatible with any vsr 10 upgrade parts or kits? especially JG BAR 10 PARTS OR TM VSR 10?
It's a straight Clone of the TM, so VSR-10 parts should be compatible, although I haven't had to change anything besides the hop bucking yet since we got it shooting at local field-FPS limits and the accuracy is as expected of the regular 6.05 inner-barrel.
I'm planning to change to a precision 6.01 barrel once the spring has settled and lost 10 FPS, which the tighter barrel should compensate for. And maybe a better hop-up system because the hop-up lever on mine moves after 5 shots.
@@haringduga4026 na try nyo na shim ng coke can both sides ng hop arm area pra d mag loose?
I'm looking into replacing the whole Hop-chamber with an Action Army when I have cash again.
I did notice a leak between the piston and the hop-up, which is why I want to change that part.
@@haringduga4026 if between hop n piston, d nmn kya maiksi ang nozzle sir?just my idea.
I checked inside and the piston head goes into the hop-bucking neatly, so it's possible the piston head needs more teflon tape.
The nozzle inserts about 5mm into the bucking and the Maple Leafs comes with a metal seal ring for the bucking-to-barrel end.
It's also possible the stock 6.05 inner barrel is wasting air which is why I want to change it to a 6.01 when possible.
Sir what are the compatible piston for dbell vsr10 my piston is already bald I can't shoot my gun anymore is there any piston that can fit in my dbell vsr10 if nothing else what is a remedy for this. Maybe there's a piston bigger and I can just sand paper it to fit. I am in the Philippines can't find anything in market that fits
The Double Bell is a straight clone of the original Tokyo Marui VSR-10 so pistons for them should be compatible.
If in doubt, ask any Airsoft Shop regarding piston compatibility with the Double Bell.
I got mine from Vincent's, but most of my other airsoft gear I got from Tuk's Shop - they have FB Accounts that respond to messages and Tuk's staff will tell you what parts are compatible and if they have any in stock.
Walang compatible na piston sa double bell vsr 10.. Tanging edgi kit lang ang merong piston para dyan...
whats the name of the sight? for me it doesnt come with the gun
The scope is marked BSA Contender.
It was the best budget optic in the shop with built-in lights, zoom, and parallax correction so I bought it - I bought the Double Bell VSR10 weeks after.
Idol paano ba yung hop up iadjust?thanks in advance
For the VSR-10, the Hop-Up adjustment is on the left side of the barrel, past the cylinder assembly, and just above the stock section where the magazine well aligns.
It's a tiny lever that you move forward and backward to adjust Hop-Up.
Hey I really need help, I've done everything perfectly up to 2:55, but when I try to slide the barrel bit of it just won't come off, I've tried twisting it and everything but that thing is STUCK in there, I've got it to move like an inch but it's killing my hands and incredibly hard to move, have I done something wrong?
Try to check for a hidden screw inside the stock mounting hole to the left of where I undid the last screw for the barrel - sometimes a different month/year release of the same model has an added feature like an extra screw.
If you can't rotate the barrel around it means the screws are still biting and holding the barrel back, so loosen the screws a bit more or remove them completely in case the barrel housing is still catching on it.
At 3:02 you can see the barrel on mine is at least straight and flat - yours might be getting stuck because of a warp or something standing out on the end so try a couple drops of oil and see if you can rotate the barrel around like in 2:58.
Last tip I can suggest, after completely removing all involved screws and adding oil... ask a friend to pull at the barrel while you pull on the spring housing. Might just need some brute force, but be ready with a metal file to flatten any warps when the barrel is out.
@@haringduga4026 Thank you so much for your reply man I really do appreciate it, I think it just needed brute force, I eventually got it out after some prying and twisting I also used some of the spray oil stuff. Thank you again for your reply tho :)
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Sir yung dd vsr 10 ko hirap pag release ng magazine. Ano po kaya pwede gawin para maayos sya?
Most common reason for magazine snagging is brand/model mismatch. There are VSR-10 Magazines that are made by 3rd party companies that are slightly wider/longer - ideally you always buy the same brand Airsoft and Magazines. If the brands match or the airsoft shop says the mag is compatible, try the following fixes:
Check the release button - if it doesn't work, you need to disassemble the VSR's to get to the mag release switch's screws. Problems include broken spring, mag catch installed upside-down or being too long.
If the mag catch button is working, check if the magazine snags when being inserted: this indicates a mismatch between the magazine and the magazine well - either sand the sides of the magazine or the inside of the magazine well gradually until the magazine slides in smoothly.
If the magazine slides inside without issues but snags on the way out and the mag release button works, check the back portion of the magazine for any protruding plastic parts and sand/cut off. Also check the BB-Loading portion of the magazine for any protruding plastic and sand as needed.
Hey, having some trouble with my gun the same as this. It isn't missing anything and everything is in the right place, but the gun won't fire. Not sure what I've done wrong 😅
If the Piston locks and the spring holds, then your sear is fine, so check that your Safety is off, the bolt is back to the start and all the way down, and make sure that nothing is stuck behind the trigger.
If the piston doesn't catch and the bolt goes back with force, you have a broken spring stop and you'll need to replace the entire sear/trigger assembly.
If everything works but the trigger won't pull even with the safety off, disassemble the VSR-10, to separate the trigger assembly and check if the adjustable screws located directly behind the trigger wasn't tightened all the way because that adjusts the trigger movement.
@@haringduga4026 thank you so much! Trigger assembly it is! 😁 what usually causes this failure? I had upgraded the spring previously?
Very likely the sear couldn't handle the stronger spring so you'll need to upgrade to one that can.
Not all models come with notes on what limit the stock parts can handle, so it's common to upgrade both spring and sear so they don't destroy each other.
Now I have a question Is this sniper are so called SULIT to have?
For it's price, the stock performance is decent - the problem is from what I've seen, the Double Bell VSR10 is no longer readily available.
Pwede ba wood stock lang di kasama mga parts?
Depends if the Airsoft Shop has Stocks as option parts in supply.
I never asked because I'm fine with the lighter plastic stock.
stock parts ba yan boss during this video? ung piston, spring guide at stopper mga stainless nba sla?
Only the Hop-Bucking was upgraded at the end of the video. So far all the stock stainless steel parts are holding up and the DB VSR-10 still works after 4 years.
Piston, spring guide at stopper ay aluminum lang pati yung sear ay pot metal...
Hello, can you give some small knowledge on what to upgrade for the vsr 10, i currently have one right now and i want to upgrade it.
Thanks.
The main things i want to upgrade are the
Hopup
Spring
Bucking
Barrel
Thanks again!
You can check with an Airsoft shop or Airsoft Forums with regards to upgrades. I have no experience tuning a VSR-10 and the only upgrade we made to this Double Bell is replacing the stock Hop-up Bucking with a Maple Leaf 60-degree Autobot.
You'll have to check forums about springs since I don't know much about Springs/FPS rates. For hop-up assembly, there are a couple brands that are VSR-10 compatible; the only one I keep hearing about is the Action Army Hop-Up Chamber.
As far as barrel is concerned, all I know is I want to upgrade to a tight bore 6.01 to improve accuracy and to compensate for the FPS drop when the stock spring has settled.
Ohh, thanks alot but is it really a clone of the tm vsr 10 ?
I don't have a TM to compare it to. All I know is Double Bell calls it a VSR-10.
Boss, where do you plan on buying your 6.01 barrel and Act. Army hop up chamber??
My go-to Airsoft supplier is Tuk's Shop.
If I get lucky and catch something I need at Vincent's, I get it there.
For really specialized parts I check with Toy Soldier or NekNek PH.
idol pano mo nakabit ung rail para sa bipod?
The bipod I got didn't need a rail - it came with a long screw and a small extending tube that just replaces one of the screws for the stock.
The bipod plate sits right under the stock, and the screw it comes with is longer than it needs to be to fit on different models, so it comes with two small metal tubes that are like straws cut to two lengths.
Once the bipod is on the stock, you chose one of the two tubes to slide on the screw so that the tube goes between the screw head and the bipod plate to lock the bipod against the stock.
I got it at Tuk's Shop for about Php 1,200.
Can the VSR10 also shoot a .22 pellet? Single shot i'd assume.....??
This only shoots 6mm pastic BB Pellets.
You'll need a different rifle if you want to shoot .22 pellets.
Can i put action army parts on this? Planning to buy vsr 10 dbell
I can't confirm 100% but since this is a straight VSR-10 clone, Action Army parts should work.
HariNgDuga which vsr should i get to be sure as u stated not 100% sure..can u recommend me a brand
@@TheNaughty1234567 That would be the original: Tokyo Marui VSR-10
Because from what I know, the Double Bell VSR-10 is a straight clone, with the major difference being that the internals are a better metal than what used to be pot-metal used by similar Chinese 3rd party clones.
HariNgDuga thx
Wood finish po ba ito or wood talaga?
This one is plastic with wood finish.
It's lighter, and cheaper than the Wood Version.
Compatible parts po ba kaya sa JG at TM? lalo na ang laman ng trigger box.
For internals, VSR-10 Parts and Upgrades should work because this is a TM Clone.
If you want to upgrade the trigger, you'll likely need to also change out the piston because the piston inside the Double Bell has a 45-degree catch.
The only part of the Double Bell that I've heard that doesn't match with the JG is the stock. If you want to put a JG stock on a Double Bell, you'll need to modify the JG stock.
Thanks for the info. I am hoping to build a durable, low stress setup. Maybe find steel internals and lower the output to a friendly 450fps @ .2g bbs.
Out of the box, the Double Bell VSR-10 shoots 430fps. The internals are metal, and not the cheap kind like in older China Clones. Mine is almost a year old, with over 800 shots and nothing's broken yet.
We got my DB VSR-10 shooting 480fps just by upgrading the hop bucking, so if you just need 450 all you'd need to do is wrap teflon tape where the bucking and inner-barrel meet. That should give you 450fps with .2g
@@haringduga4026 thank you very much, looks like I am surely buying one. One last thing, would you happen to have checked which internal parts are magnetic?
I never did a magnet test, but I was using a magnetic screwdriver when installing the hop bucking - if I recall correctly, only the springs and screws were attracted.
San niyo po nabili? and around how much din po?
I got mine from Vincent's Hobby Shop during a sale and was just under Php 6,000.
The accessories (extra mags, scope, bipod, BBs, etc.) Soft Carry Bag, and Hop-Up Bucking were purchased from Tuk's Shop.
Anong spring upgrade ang pwede sa dv vsr10 master?
On stock parts, the DB VSR10 cylinder can likely hold up to an M170.
I have it with its stock M150 and after all these years the trigger still holds.
@@haringduga4026 thank you master dami kasi nagsasabi dispossable raw ang db vsr10
Infinity custom m180(600fps)
anong model ng scope yan??? ty.
BSA Sweet Contender 4-16x44 A0EYS
Got it at Tuk's Shop in Pasay because it looked really sexy on their display case and was discounted.
compatible po ba ang tokyo marui parts?
Can't confirm since we didn't do any serious upgrade to this rifle, but as a VSR-10 clone it should be compatible with Tokyo Marui parts.
No!
Ok po ba ito para maging first sniper rifle?
For the price and performance out of the box, it's a good starter.
Room for upgrades, and is better built than any other China-Made spring bolt rifle before.
sir pwede po ba mag upgrade ng maple leaf na trigger set si dbell vsr10?
I heard some Maple Leaf upgrades don't match the Double-Bell VSR-10 but I can't confirm if it's true.
I'd recommend asking Airsoft Shops about upgrade parts for the Double-Bell: Tuk's and Toy Soldier have Facebook accounts that respond to messages.
No!
What spring did you use ???
I believe it's the M130/135 stock spring for this model.
@@haringduga4026 thanks i also have this double bell vsr-10
@@haringduga4026 what's the length of the spring also the diameter
VSR-10 Springs are 8.75 Inch X 10mm
@@haringduga4026 where did you buy can you send the link thx i cant find one even in shops
boss rubberized ba yung stock ng dbelle?
It's a thin rubber cap at the end of the stock that you can pull off without tools; it's not a full, thick rubber pad.
You're really just getting 2mm of rubber padding against the stock, and it would be easy to stab through.
@@blakeloeb3937 Yes it is.
@@blakeloeb3937 This one is Faux Wood.
@@blakeloeb3937 Mine is the polymer version that's imitation wood.
The real-wood stock seems to be a more recent release because I've only started seeing it on stores.
sir newbie lang ako, anong klaseng spring ang papalitan para madagdagan fps nya? .30g po kasi gamit kong bb
TIA. :)
You'll have to check with either the Airsoft Shop supplier or forums about spring replacements - I'm not familiar with spring types since this is my first VSR-10 - and a clone at that.
Infinity custom m180(600fps)
Was the internal parts
Full metal?
Yes they are, and better than pot-metal that older Chinese Clones were known to use.
@@haringduga4026 I was planning to buy that dbell vsr10
If its worth it without using gas or battery
Only spring with 500 fps
I don't care about the body if its abs plastic or metal
All I want is metal internals so I will buy that soon
Thanks.
@@haringduga4026 btw is it okay ro reuse bbs from 500 to a clothe or pillow
Ideally you never reuse a shot BB on any airsoft more expensive than $50 because dirt or chips can damage the hop-bucking or scar the inner barrel.
@@haringduga4026 yeah I know that when you shot from solid object or ground
But some experts people reuse and clean bbs only shot from (soft cloth)
On expensive airsoft (350 fps)
And im not sure if 500fps is ok so I was asking
Sir idol ano po exact name ng spring na pinalit mo po?
This still uses the stock spring. The only internal upgrade we made was an Autobot 70-deg Hop-up replacement, with teflon sealing.
Fit dyan ang infinity custom m180(600fps)
Ilang inch po yan
Full length is +/- 43 inches
Barrel length from muzzle to front of stock is +/- 13 inches
how do you fix slam firing?
You will need to replace the sear to solve slam firing since it means the trigger mechanism can't hold the piston back - either because of damage to the sear or the spring is too strong for it.
@@haringduga4026 where can I order new sears if that's the issue?
Airsoft shops sell after-market sears and other upgrade parts.
You just need to know if your airsoft uses a 45-degree or 90-degree sear, and what spring power it needs to hold, but usually the upgrade parts are already good for up to 500FPS
@@haringduga4026 do you have any recommendations? all airsoft shops in my area only focuses on AEGs and GBB pistols, nothing for snipers unfortunately
The local shops I know that have sniper parts are:
facebook.com/neknek.ph/
facebook.com/toysoldierph/
facebook.com/tuksshop/
You'll have to ask if they have any in stock, and check if they can ship there - Tuk's claims Nationwide Shipping.
For international, there's Red Wolf Airsoft:
www.redwolfairsoft.com/airosft-hammer-sear/sniper.html
why is it only 450fps, that should be 550 out of the box right?
The Double Bell VSR-10 out of the box FPS is 420-450.
@@haringduga4026 mali!out of the box is 500-550fps or higher!
Sir please indicate saan nyo po na bili yang maple 360fps lang ako sa .30bbs at mag kano TIA.
A lot of the local airsoft shops have the Maple Leaf Bucking; average price is P600.
We got ours from Tuk's Shop
Sir wala pa po bang naging problema sa VSR 10 nyo hanggang ngayon?
After about 300+ shots, I lost piston air seal so I checked and the problem was the o-ring. I stretched it a bit and got the seal back, but it's one part that might need replacing at some point. I'm planning to buy spare piston o-rings for the long run.
I also solved the problem with the hop-up arm sliding after 10 shots - the arm uses a small spring and peg to "click" along the chamber's serrations and you can either stretch the spring out, or do what I did which was put a tiny spec of crumpled tissue paper behind the spring. Now it clicks nicely and the hop-up doesn't change.
No noticeable wear or damage between the piston and sear for now, but I do think the cylinder is over-greased out of the box. The clumped specks might have caused the o-ring to shrink between shots. I also needed to clean out the inner barrel because the grease from the cylinder eventually gets pushed in from firing.
Haven't had a mag jam or feeding issues; no wobble between the stock and barrel... and the trigger still feels the same since day-1.
So would you recommend it to me or for other beginners that is interested in getting into airsoft?
Here's the thing...
Because of the way it's built and what it can do... I can't recommend this particular airsoft spring rifle to absolute beginners. This rifle should go to experienced players and people with a basic grasp of airsoft safety and maintenance.
This thing shoots at a high FPS out of the box and won't easily break - that's not a good thing to put in the hands of a child or someone that hasn't learned the consequences of hitting something or someone not meant to be shot with BBs at this FPS.
But if you understand the dangers and responsibility that comes with airsoft, and you REALLY can't get your hands on a Tokyo Marui, this is a pretty sweet VSR-10 to have.
Ok,I understood that.I know what to do and don't.Thanks for sharing your opinions and answering my questions.
@@haringduga4026 saan part yun spring sir? problema ko din kasi ang hop ng dbelle ko hirap i-adjust at gumagalaw sya. thanks
is it compatible with maple leaf hop arm?
Can't confirm, but the Double Bell VSR-10 is supposedly 80-95% compatible to VSR-10 upgrade parts.
kamusta na vsr 10 nyo boss matibay ba
It's been in storage for most of the 3 years - tested it two days ago and the trigger still holds the spring fine - no loss of air seal.
Safety still works, no drag or snagging with the bolt. Besides minor paint chips, no real issues so far.
Sir anong brand yun bipod mo? Saan mo nabili?
Forgot the brand, but here's a link to it:
facebook.com/tuksshop/photos/a.1637984316231246/1637976832898661/?type=3&theater
Real wood?
This one is the Plastic Faux Wood version.
There's a real wood version, though I'm not sure if it's still available or in supply.
Magazine is metal?
The Magazine it comes with is black plastic and fully VSR-10 Compatible.
Is it tre same internals as the bell vsr db204? The one with thumb hole wooden stock
Internals should be the same since Double Bell simply copied the VSR-10 design, but used better metals than other Chinese Copies.
paps. magkano score mo stock unit? saka saan? planning to buy same unit as well
Got this one from one of the Vincent's Hobby Shops at around P1,600.
Hopefully you got one and it's worked well for you. From my understanding, some shops do still have them in stock.
paps pwede ba ito sa stock ng m40a3 tokyo mauri vsr 10.
Not sure about stock compatibility between Tokyo Marui and Double Bell. I only know that internal upgrades are 80-90% compatible.
I bought a used double bell vsr10 and when i went to chrono it it was 0.2J super low and later it literally spit the bbs 1 meter range, what could the problem be? I havent tried to disassemble it, what should i check for?
First thing to check is the Hop-Up Bucking. It may need to be replaced. When the Hop-Up isn't engaged enough, it doesn't hold the BB in so you won't get the best air-seal which leads to low FPS.
You can also do a Piston Test like in the video at 7:52 and see if the piston slams instead of being stopped by the trapped air. If the Piston slams, there's a leak in the cylinder. For a Cylinder leak, either the nozzle or the piston (or both) need a new O-Ring.
@@haringduga4026Ok thanks for fast reply
Sir meron akong nakitang sa online na 500-550 fps vsr10 dbelle is it worth to buy and use as stock？
Online FPS ratings are posted higher than actual. The Double Bell VSR-10 is most commonly marketed as a 500 FPS but the actual out of the box is around 450fps.
Stock performance is fine, but if you want to out-perform an AEG in range and accuracy, you'll want to upgrade parts.
Out of the box 500-550fps the double bell vsr 10
Ano po yung background music? Ano title?
No Title - the BG music comes with the Adobe Premiere video editing program.
effective range nya, ilang meters
I can only confirm 15-18 Meters range.
I don't have access to a wide area and can only test as far as the end of our driveway without going out to a public road.
@@haringduga4026 80 or 100 stock
I tried this in a open area more 60-70 meters away
Sir marerecommend nyo ba siya for fielding?
I haven't been able to bring mine to a field because of work, but I've seen other videos of people using this rifle for games so it should be fine.
@@haringduga4026 ano po size ng railings nyan for scope?
Saan nyo po nabili at magkano?
Check Vincent's, TuksShop, NekNek.PH, or ToySoldier for stock.
The average price for the Double Bell VSR-10 is Php 6,000-6,800
idol magkano po ito and mas ok ba sya sa bar 10 thanks
Depending on the Stock Color/Camo/Print, the Double Bell VSR-10 is Php 5,900-6,500+
The only real difference between the DB VSR-10 and the JG BAR-10 is some small cosmetics, price/availability, and the Double Bell is a more recent VSR-10 Clone release.
boss pahingi details ng pyesa s upgarde mo at anbo inabot fps
Skip to 8:06 of the video to see the performance test.
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