Imagine indirectly accusing someone of cheating with no solid evidence then threatening to sue an entity for merely recognising said allegations and providing evidence to the contrary. Kramnick has lost it.
Kramnik is like that guy who is convinced the earth is flat, and you cannot convince him otherwise, or he will accuse you of being a government insider.
@@stasisowhat valid points? He’s gone completely crazy with , I’m sorry to say, jealousy. It’s difficult for him to digest that someone can actually be this good and that farming isn’t cheating.
@@stasiso he doesn’t make any points at all. He makes statements without supplying quantitative evidence. When people responded to say the figures he was spouting didn’t add up and gave actual calculations behind their workings, he just went ‘Nu-uh, I’m right because I’m a chess man hurrdurr’
By calling Hikaru’s win streak “interesting”, he was hedging his bets in case there was blowback. Once that blowback came he could pedantically claim he didn’t accuse Hikaru of cheating because he didn’t actually use that word. And then when people called out his bull, he did what other people in similar situations do: they play the victim and try and gaslight everyone.
@@Frog-2001kramnik is not a super GM in blitz, it's so different. Daniel naroditsky could blast kramnik in many blitz games in a row and he's on the lower end of OTB GMs
The problem with Hikaru is that he plays with his twitch chat on... anybody can be hidden analysing the game with stockfish and send him moves suggestions encrypted with seemingly random messages... there's no way to be sure if one is being assisted or not... GMs need only 1 top move suggestion to win a match!!
The core concept that Kramnik is missing is that over thousands of games, continuous streaks of results are more likely. You can't really demonstrate that in a single session of 40-50 games.
Kramnik suing Chess for defamation, while trying to defame hikaru, who could more easily sue him back for defamation, and is claiming Kramnik himself is being defamed by chess for doing their job, is truly a chess moment of our time. What an egotistical, childlike response lol. Thanks for lurking shout out btw
Kramnik lives in a house with wallpaper and does his videos from the dining room with his phone in portrait mode. I doubt you would get much from suing him 😂
Too much time spent on probability of win streaks, not enough time spent on probability of "please direct all future communication to our in-house legal counsel"?
@@hess6wi Kramnik is no longer peak Kramnik. In 2023 there's no reason Hikaru couldn't be better than him (especially in speed chess, which is undeniably Hikaru's specialty, even over the board). As legendary a player as he is, these accusations are unfounded and he should've backed out when chesscom dropped their results, as they're the chief authority on weeding out cheaters and understand the signs better than he does.
The fact that Kramnik can in the same post say that he wasn't accusing Hikaru and then also say that he wants the website to specifically investigate Hikaru and provide proof is wild to me. I would love for someone to explain to me how that's not an accusation of cheating
he's not accusing hikaru, but he's demanding an investigation and completely rejects any investigation that finds hikaru innocent. But he's not accusing.
I love how Daniel and Erik from the Chess Team used "with the deepest respect" and you can tell that they're trying to be as delicate and genuine as possible to a well renowned and (once-)respected figure of the community, while Kramnik using the same phrase back at them comes off as unbelievably condescending.
Imagine being so good at chess that it causes a former world champ to question his own skills, to the point where he sees himself as unable to pull off a similar feat, and then thinks you are cheating for it cuz ur so far ahead of everyone else
Obviously, Vladimir doesn't deserve the things that were said to him, but honestly, what was he expecting? He accused one of the most well-liked chess players on the planet, didn't provide evidence, then expected everybody to just leave him alone? Not sure what's going on with Kramnik, but it's obvious his understanding of the internet is...outdated...to say the least.
@@mequanaThat does not mean he should be sent threats and insults though. As a matter of fact no one deserves that no matter the circumstance. I fullheartedly disagree, even if you put out some stupid statements there is no reason to return to the person with hate in this form. This however is true for any person and should be standard online as well as in any face to face scenario. Sadly it really isn't though and especially on the internet many feel compelled to start insulting and sending people threats because they disagree on something... it's sad really
@@fbch32He might be somewhat jealous but I refuse to think that's why he accuses him, he's constantly implying that certain people are cheating, I think he's literally going insane unfortunately
He hasn't lost his cc account though. Which is unfair, because any other player who made false cheating allegations public would be banned from the site. It is against the TOS, and against the rules.
Kramnik played a series of blitz games on November 1st and he wasn't able to replicate such a streak. I think we all would find this very interesting...
Kramnik is simply losing IQ points with each new post he makes..... like wtf? Also, yes, he should sue and lose. The only way he's going to realise he's being an idiot.
@@kitsune090To know that a former WCC who's been accused of cheating himself would not ponder before accusing another is beyond wild. We're not "loving Hikaru so much," it's loving common sense - the truth even.
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The Ego of Kramnik is INSANE, to accuse someone whos super good and explains their thinking perfectly during his chess streams. Why doesnt he just admit he was wrong, and move on. His cause is great, dont get me wrong, but this is terrible execution and so unprofessional.
I mean, trying to be impartial here, if hikaru is actually cheating it's not hard for a top player like him to look at the top move in an engine and explain why that's such a good move
@@user-qu5gs8ly5ibecause computer is better? It's like teacher knows more so when they teach, a top student immediately gets what they are trying to teach Like hikaru just didn't know that move but computer knew so as soon as computer shows the move hikaru understands it why it's the best Though I also think it's stupid of kramnik and hikaru isn't cheating What I wrote above is just me explaining why would a top player cheat but I don't think hikaru cheats
@@user-qu5gs8ly5i maybe he wanted to set a record not even carlsen would be able to break, or anyone in any time soon, maybe he thinks he deserves more than he has alterady accomplished, Maybe he thinks setting a record will bring attention to him which means more viewers and money. I don't know what would be the reason, but there sure are many reasons to cheat (not saying i believe he has cheated or not, i haven't done much research myself about this)
Kramnik needs to realise players reputation and integrity are everything to them. Hikaru has every right to defend himself when someone is throwing accusations with little to no evidence.Kramnik needs to stop being stubborn and back down before things get ugly
It's too late, Vlad messed this one up - rep and integrity shattered for him now, this will follow him forever. A legal case could take months, until then it's trial by internet 😂
Things already become ugly because of Vlads Ego and yes, he‘s so stubborn! And kind of jealousy like: Hikaru is getting older and he can’t be so good; I mean Hikaru is such a good player, he won 960 Fisher random( no usual openings, pure chess), he‘s one of the best chess players ever...
It's very weird to watch the hans magnus and hikaru kramnik thing unfold in very different ways. I mean, both accusations had little to no evidence. Public opinion is very important ig
@@FeketeBr or stand up maths actually. the same guy who did analysis of Dream cheating, recommend you check him out he's great and yes also appeared mutliple times in numberphile
It's pretty hilarious that he said he's going to show "REAL TRUE STATISTICS" to backup his assertion that Hikaru is cheating and then complains when people say he is accusing Hikaru of cheating.
What makes it even better is that he still hasn't shown those real true statistics. If he has undeniable proof of hikaru cheating, why isn't he publishing it?
Kramnik targeted the wrong chess player, the wrong fanbase. Very naive of him if he thought he was gonna get away unscathed with his innuendos. And now, his ego is making things worse, instead of just turn the page and move on, he's subjecting himself to even more attacks and criticisms, sinking his already trampled reputation. Because in the end, after everything is over (lawsuit etc), the facts won't change: Hikaru is not a cheater/ did not cheat. And chess history will read "former world chess champion went bonkers unable to process/accept that Hikaru's online chess achievement is humanely possible".
The Hikarumori will prevail! It's a shame because Kramnik had an amazing career, and this is just a pungent stain on his historically important legacy.
It's his pride that people "lesser" than him are doing better than him. Non World Champions. Especially Hikaru because Hikky hasn't seriously studied chess for years.
It’s clear to me that Kramnik’s goal is for everyone to interpret the statistics in such a way that will prove that Hikaru is cheating. He will never accept that he is not. The truth is that Kramnik has lost all credibility which now will hurt all of chess. He was trying to help catch cheaters but now he’s let them off the hook because his word means nothing anymore.
I think part of the reason cheating is becoming an issue in modern chess is because engines can be used to find new paths 15+ moves in using an opening against a defense and part of chess player's training protocols can include this. This muddies the ability to see top engine moves as being used in the moment or as a consequence of prep?
I'm one of the 'lurkers' you called it. I bought the gotham knights shirt and your recent book but I never comment. Thanks for bringing fun back into chess for me.
You're making the best point that Mr Kramnik is acting like he doesn't know how the web works. But also, using a threat of legal action to publicly make demands is going to look very bad on him in court!
This is insane. I honestly cannot believe what Kramnik is doing. I also am in disbelief that Kramnik has cherrypicked comments in support of him and appears to think everything else is from bots or Hikaru fans. It seems Kramnik has watched some RUclips videos reacting to this and for some reason he can just block them off. Honestly, this is too unbelievable what Kramnik is thinking.
It's hilarious that he's boasting about his petition getting 2K+ signatures so quickly when I quick perusal shows a huge chunk of them are just trolls.
@RaniaIsAwesome I don't read childish comments so that wouldn't the reason for my disbelief. Kramnik's methodology is simply incorrect which is the cause of my disbelief. I think your comment shed some light. I think perhaps any levelheaded adult who hasn't studied statistics or research methods might actually still strongly believe in Kramnik's methodology. This might be the reason why Kramnik's replies to theory/methodology/calculation based rebuttals is reduced to "bots" and "fans". Perhaps Kramnik is not sick in the mind, but simply that he is unable to comprehend others' works (in addition to narrowmindedness). This could explain how weird his responses are. Now it could make more sense that Kramnik, who lacks post-secondary education, might read/interpret everything as a simple "you're wrong". If Kramnik is unable to absorb the information being fed to him and is narrowminded, then he would only believe he holds the one true stat. Prior to your comment, I was more worried about Kramnik's health because he exhibited similar symptoms of certain patients I've observed. To be honest, I hope it is this new possibility because I do hope Kramnik (and everyone else) to be healthy. But honestly the situation is so absurd that I still worry that it could be the other possibility.
@RaniaIsAwesome Any level-headed adult who knows anything about how statistics and probabilities work knows Kramnik is full of shit with his baseless accusations. With the amount of games Hikaru has played it would be very unlikely if he hadn't gotten multiple win streaks like that. If you toss a coin thousands of times and at some point you get a very long streak of heads or tails it would be within expectations. If I cherry pick that long streak and make claims about how unlikely that streak is without taking into account how many repetitions you had to make to get that streak and called you a cheater you probably wouldn't be too happy about it. And we aren't talking about 50/50 coin tosses in Hikaru's case. Based on their elo differences. His expected win rate against 350 elo rating weaker players is 88%.
@@objective_psychology i know he did, but gotham still don't want a piece of it. He even changed the title of one video because it said that kramnik accused hikaru.
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I'm glad to see when my cultural spheres intersect, lol. However, Kramnik isn't a sociopath like Mitchell. He's merely going crazy. I think Kramnik would be an ok dude if he wasn't so possessed by his emotions. Meanwhile, I'm not sure Mitchell has the capacity for any emotion except selfish anger and smugness, at least not anymore.
@@bigbird4481 if you want a biased but well-informed opinion, one of the people he's suing is a RUclipsr - Karl Jobst, who Mitchell is suing for defamation.
@@bigbird4481nothing new, more of the same, lies ontop of more lies ontop of still suing Karl Jobst and losing the narrative as more evidence comes out that proves he’s a liar. Billy is just getting bodied everyday.
Kramnik is out of his mind. It's just funny how they proved to him several times such a streak is possible and he's still like "that's fake data, give me the real data". lol Even Hikaru went to play the other day and got a 40+ streak easy, just to prove a point.
So many mathematicians tried to explain this to Kramnik on his blog, showing their work, and Kramnik still brushed them all aside and called it nonsense. He just doesn't understand math.
I‘m one of these ppl just watching and actually rly rarely comment, but just wanted to say i love your statement u did here. It‘s true, it‘s the internet and if u give the trolls on the internet a chance to contact and insult u, u shouldn‘t cry abt it and sue platforms. Keep ur work up, i love your content, also your chess news!
Because to me, it's not really like you need to be "intelligent" to play chess. After all, AI are not intelligent per se and they are far better than us. It's way more about pattern recognition, memory, time management, and focus than anything else.
@@HaydenNK3General intelligence isn't really a thing either. You can be academically intelligent, but not socially intelligent. You can fail all your classes, but be a very smart football player. Etc etc
@@HaydenNK3those things you mentioned at the end are all pretty significantly indicative of someone's intelligence. It is not a coincidence that chess masters are typically 150 iq+
@@HaydenNK3 what yes? That Kramnik doesn't know the human brain degenerates as it gets older? Please don't think with emotions. Just because a person accuses your idol, this person doesn't know that 1+1 equals 2? Try to be realistic dear friend!
Funny side of the story: Kramnik seems to be "above the law". There are not many Chess players who could accuse others in such a toxic manner while still being "respected". Being a former World Champion has its perks i guess.
I work with stats a lot. Kramnik is exhibiting some extreme dunning Kruger effect here. Stats often don't make sense unless you are well versed in the maths.
Just don't tell Kramnika about the birthday paradox, where if you get a small group of people it's more likely that they share a birthday than not. It'd blow his mind!
I got it. Kramnik and Hans spend some time together training and to bond they talked about their favorite chess players and realized they both love Fischer. So Hans started imitating him by repeating his quote and Kramnik by going insane.
Did you check Indian express article? Hikaru used to accuse Arjun Erigaisi of cheating without any proof. "Hikaru used to accuse Arjun of cheating. This was two or three years back. He was pretty confrontative about it. Arjun felt sad about it, that someone he looked up to as a chess player was accusing him just because he was playing well,” says Srinath, who was a coach and mentor for the young Indian prodigy.
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Pin of shame
Imagine indirectly accusing someone of cheating with no solid evidence then threatening to sue an entity for merely recognising said allegations and providing evidence to the contrary. Kramnick has lost it.
Yeah, what even is the case for the suing? Defamation? 😂
even worse than that he claims people are cheating then says he gonna sue over trolls trolling him. XD
Pretty direct accusations if you ask me
Bobby Fischer 2.0
@@El_IF_B_2 Walmart Bobby Fisher lol
Props to kramnik for suing a board game!
But how will this lawsuit affect the lebron chess bot’s legacy?
@@DerpsterTheNoob so true
I thought he sued a website 🤔
king about to do a bongcloud in court.
@@EmmanuelLee1691 No he sued a board game that is over a thousand years old
As you grow older in chess, either you fade away like a legend or grow crazy like Bobby. Kramnik is the latter...
Meanwhile there is Vishy who continues to shine and make the chess world a better place even after growing old
Lol
What happened to bobby
@@mysterymastermind175bro became a madman and became a misogynist
Dang your Account is 14 years old!
Kramnik is just a really good guy giving creators free content, much respect
And you are a really good bot.
@@waluigi43Bro's literally calling everyone a bot 💀
@@joseantoniorodrigueslopes6979I think bro's dumped by one😂
@@Jyoti.mittal yea probably
The memes and gags are a great tickle.
Kramnik fell victim to a one mover. Came out and attacked Hikaru without any follow up moves
This is underrated
he has highly miscalculated his danger level move with his "taking legal actions" turn
Kramvic
Kramnik is on literal self destruction mode rn. Clearly this is not the way. Sad to see.
Literally watching the second coming of Fisher fr fr rn
Looking forward to him going full flat earther next 😉
The Mandalorian here. This is the way.
@@sakib123321 except Kramnik isnt as good as Fischer [imo]
I smell those Parkinson genes kicking in
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the only lurkers i acknowledge are the ones i killed in brood war 😎
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Kramnik is like that guy who is convinced the earth is flat, and you cannot convince him otherwise, or he will accuse you of being a government insider.
Lmaooo
or being a sheep
Exactly. And it's driven by ego; he thinks he is the bearer of ultimate truth and there is nothing that can change his conviction.
lol exactly
an idotic individual@@objective_psychology
Kramnik is a beautiful example of chess ability and intelligence having no correlation
I was thinking the same until I watched the whole video. Kramnik actually has some valid points.
@@stasisowhat valid points? He’s gone completely crazy with , I’m sorry to say, jealousy. It’s difficult for him to digest that someone can actually be this good and that farming isn’t cheating.
@@stasiso he doesn’t make any points at all. He makes statements without supplying quantitative evidence. When people responded to say the figures he was spouting didn’t add up and gave actual calculations behind their workings, he just went ‘Nu-uh, I’m right because I’m a chess man hurrdurr’
+5 inteligence ,-1 Wisdom
I’d call it wisdom and not intelligence
By calling Hikaru’s win streak “interesting”, he was hedging his bets in case there was blowback. Once that blowback came he could pedantically claim he didn’t accuse Hikaru of cheating because he didn’t actually use that word. And then when people called out his bull, he did what other people in similar situations do: they play the victim and try and gaslight everyone.
I think you can question without accusing.
Hikaru just needs to beat Kramnik 40-something times in a row in 3 minute blitz and resolve this issue. 🤷🏻♂️
I dont think hikaru can do it. Kramnik at his worst is 2700 elo which is super gm. so unlikely to outplay him, BUT he can be MUCH faster than kramnik
@@Frog-2001kramnik is not a super GM in blitz, it's so different. Daniel naroditsky could blast kramnik in many blitz games in a row and he's on the lower end of OTB GMs
The problem with Hikaru is that he plays with his twitch chat on... anybody can be hidden analysing the game with stockfish and send him moves suggestions encrypted with seemingly random messages... there's no way to be sure if one is being assisted or not... GMs need only 1 top move suggestion to win a match!!
The core concept that Kramnik is missing is that over thousands of games, continuous streaks of results are more likely. You can't really demonstrate that in a single session of 40-50 games.
@@kitsune090LOL take a hike
Kramnik suing Chess for defamation, while trying to defame hikaru, who could more easily sue him back for defamation, and is claiming Kramnik himself is being defamed by chess for doing their job, is truly a chess moment of our time.
What an egotistical, childlike response lol. Thanks for lurking shout out btw
That's a good point.
In fact it's so good I give 24h to delete it or I will sue you for being too reasonable.
Kramnik lives in a house with wallpaper and does his videos from the dining room with his phone in portrait mode. I doubt you would get much from suing him 😂
Too much time spent on probability of win streaks, not enough time spent on probability of "please direct all future communication to our in-house legal counsel"?
@@pylon39 4 bots talking to themselves.
@@waluigi43 but I'm not a b-- Damn, that's what a bot would say, isn't it?
Called Hikaru a cheat then cries that he's being defamed. LMAO
Krammnik is 48 years older than you don’t think he know what is lmao
*insert clown meme here*
But Hikaru is a cheater... it's a fact!
@@kitsune090 That's a very non-factual statement.
This should be pinned because it *certainly* deserves the pin of shame
Kramnik is that guy that cannot accept someone being better than him so bad that he creates drama then plays the victim
Peak Kramnik was better than peak Hikaru at chess.
@@hess6wi Kramnik is no longer peak Kramnik. In 2023 there's no reason Hikaru couldn't be better than him (especially in speed chess, which is undeniably Hikaru's specialty, even over the board). As legendary a player as he is, these accusations are unfounded and he should've backed out when chesscom dropped their results, as they're the chief authority on weeding out cheaters and understand the signs better than he does.
Just erase Kramnik's name and you see another well known GM😁
@@hess6wi Kramnik's peak rating is lower than Hikaru's lol
Peak Kramnik was also massively accused of cheating against Topalov..😂😂😂
The fact that Kramnik can in the same post say that he wasn't accusing Hikaru and then also say that he wants the website to specifically investigate Hikaru and provide proof is wild to me. I would love for someone to explain to me how that's not an accusation of cheating
Is Kramnik TRYING to lose all the respect he has? Cuz he's on a speedrun right now
We might see a new World Record at this pace
He will get a run faster than James Charles.
I srsly doubt he ever had any respect to begin with, really
His social ELO has definitely been trending downward in recent days.
He is following the Dream.
he's not accusing hikaru, but he's demanding an investigation and completely rejects any investigation that finds hikaru innocent. But he's not accusing.
he is...
@@obsabeshir9979 well done
@@obsabeshir9979you might want to learn how to pick up on some sarcasm
@@obsabeshir9979 oh, you poor soul
I love how Daniel and Erik from the Chess Team used "with the deepest respect" and you can tell that they're trying to be as delicate and genuine as possible to a well renowned and (once-)respected figure of the community, while Kramnik using the same phrase back at them comes off as unbelievably condescending.
"I don't know anything about statistics..."
"...but obviously I know more than any statisticians or mathematicians" ~ V. Kramnik
Imagine being so good at chess that it causes a former world champ to question his own skills, to the point where he sees himself as unable to pull off a similar feat, and then thinks you are cheating for it cuz ur so far ahead of everyone else
Obviously, Vladimir doesn't deserve the things that were said to him, but honestly, what was he expecting? He accused one of the most well-liked chess players on the planet, didn't provide evidence, then expected everybody to just leave him alone? Not sure what's going on with Kramnik, but it's obvious his understanding of the internet is...outdated...to say the least.
Of course He deserved Most of the Things which were Said about him
As Long as they are true
He just yapps bullshit and should get called out for that
@@mequanaThat does not mean he should be sent threats and insults though. As a matter of fact no one deserves that no matter the circumstance.
I fullheartedly disagree, even if you put out some stupid statements there is no reason to return to the person with hate in this form. This however is true for any person and should be standard online as well as in any face to face scenario. Sadly it really isn't though and especially on the internet many feel compelled to start insulting and sending people threats because they disagree on something... it's sad really
@@izjgxj4275you're right, he doesn't deserve the hate. But wtf was he expecting? It's the Internet we're talking about here
@@izjgxj4275
1. It's the internet
2. He didn't close his DMs
He provided evidence, he posted his statistics. It doesn’t prove anything, but he posted it
At this point I am convinced Kramnik has lost his mind. How can he be so wrong yet so full of himself is a mystery to me...
Dunning Krueger Effect - confidence and ability are often inversely correlated.
Is it?
I never seen anyone so full of himself being right. Doubling down and being wrong are life inhaling and exhaling.
@@markernest2254 That explains it, I had no idea. Still, it's sad to see what's happening with him.
Washed up and wants attention. That's what this feels like
Kramnik truly has lost it.
Oh, Kramnik. (Sung to the tune of Oh, Comely)
when your brain fried from too much chess calculations
This is confusing. At this point, I think Kramnik is jealous of Hikaru. The only thing I can think of to make sense of this situation,
@@fbch32He might be somewhat jealous but I refuse to think that's why he accuses him, he's constantly implying that certain people are cheating, I think he's literally going insane unfortunately
He hasn't lost his cc account though. Which is unfair, because any other player who made false cheating allegations public would be banned from the site. It is against the TOS, and against the rules.
This is the part of Kramnik's career where he goes crazy and loses his mind.
Fischeritis? Fischerona? Fischer-19? I think I like Fischerona.
Fischerona it is@@Chunda8
Kramnik has a wicked case of Dunning-Kruger going on.
Kramnik played a series of blitz games on November 1st and he wasn't able to replicate such a streak. I think we all would find this very interesting...
nah💀💀
tf dude you killed me🤣🤣🤣
Levy never fails to mention Magnus in the first 30 seconds of his video
levi roseman trying his absolute hardest to not mention mangus
please don't steal comments for likes
@@commentwarrior I didn't steal any comments, thats the first thing that popped into my head when I heard Magnus's name in an unrelated video 🙂
@@SomethingStupid_YT you did
that pfp tho 🤣🤣
Kramnik is simply losing IQ points with each new post he makes..... like wtf? Also, yes, he should sue and lose. The only way he's going to realise he's being an idiot.
Someone this far gone will never realize that they're wrong.
Why you love hikaru so much?
@kitsune090 Knowing that Kramnik is being a delusional idiot has nothing with how much one likes Hikaru.
@@kitsune090To know that a former WCC who's been accused of cheating himself would not ponder before accusing another is beyond wild. We're not "loving Hikaru so much," it's loving common sense - the truth even.
He will say that the judge is a fan of Hikaru and didn't rule fairly
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Now I feel like people are going to intentionally cheat against kramnik in chess just to troll him
The Ego of Kramnik is INSANE, to accuse someone whos super good and explains their thinking perfectly during his chess streams. Why doesnt he just admit he was wrong, and move on. His cause is great, dont get me wrong, but this is terrible execution and so unprofessional.
I mean, trying to be impartial here, if hikaru is actually cheating it's not hard for a top player like him to look at the top move in an engine and explain why that's such a good move
@@barddz4646why would he need to do that if he is a top player though
@@user-qu5gs8ly5ibecause computer is better?
It's like teacher knows more so when they teach, a top student immediately gets what they are trying to teach
Like hikaru just didn't know that move but computer knew so as soon as computer shows the move hikaru understands it why it's the best
Though I also think it's stupid of kramnik and hikaru isn't cheating
What I wrote above is just me explaining why would a top player cheat but I don't think hikaru cheats
@@JKenny44 cheating in chess is way too inconvenient, hes basically streamed a quarter of his chess career.
@@user-qu5gs8ly5i maybe he wanted to set a record not even carlsen would be able to break, or anyone in any time soon, maybe he thinks he deserves more than he has alterady accomplished, Maybe he thinks setting a record will bring attention to him which means more viewers and money. I don't know what would be the reason, but there sure are many reasons to cheat (not saying i believe he has cheated or not, i haven't done much research myself about this)
Kramnik needs to realise players reputation and integrity are everything to them. Hikaru has every right to defend himself when someone is throwing accusations with little to no evidence.Kramnik needs to stop being stubborn and back down before things get ugly
It's too late, Vlad messed this one up - rep and integrity shattered for him now, this will follow him forever. A legal case could take months, until then it's trial by internet 😂
Things already become ugly because of Vlads Ego and yes, he‘s so stubborn! And kind of jealousy like: Hikaru is getting older and he can’t be so good; I mean Hikaru is such a good player, he won 960 Fisher random( no usual openings, pure chess), he‘s one of the best chess players ever...
Never seen anyone called Vladimir backing down despite the losses
until kramnik's self-immolation, i always thought "smart" people were immune to dunning-kruger.
It's very weird to watch the hans magnus and hikaru kramnik thing unfold in very different ways. I mean, both accusations had little to no evidence. Public opinion is very important ig
At this point I really want to see a colab between Gotham and Legal Eagle about Kramnik's allegations
And here I am waiting for a Numberphile video showing the maths
@@FeketeBr or stand up maths actually. the same guy who did analysis of Dream cheating, recommend you check him out he's great and yes also appeared mutliple times in numberphile
make it a 3 way with Matt Parker and your really onto something
I'm looking forward to Matt's next video where he builds a cog-based computer for cheating in chess
@@harleykf1 i wonder what elo a cogputer based bot could get?
10:02 Oooh, you created a wicked paradox there!
If someone comments to say thanks, then suddenly it wasn't meant for them.
It's pretty hilarious that he said he's going to show "REAL TRUE STATISTICS" to backup his assertion that Hikaru is cheating and then complains when people say he is accusing Hikaru of cheating.
What makes it even better is that he still hasn't shown those real true statistics. If he has undeniable proof of hikaru cheating, why isn't he publishing it?
@@obsolete959 Beecause his proof his "Hikaru had a few long winning streaks". That's it, that's all he had.
I laugh at my girlfriend for watching the Bachelor and yet here I am, watching hours of chess drama on RUclips 😂
Lmao it's why I got into the game
And like you, his gf is getting into bachelors
My wife said the same 😂😂
@bardiche1989 you sir won the internet
@@derkommissar4986 👍
Kramnik targeted the wrong chess player, the wrong fanbase. Very naive of him if he thought he was gonna get away unscathed with his innuendos. And now, his ego is making things worse, instead of just turn the page and move on, he's subjecting himself to even more attacks and criticisms, sinking his already trampled reputation. Because in the end, after everything is over (lawsuit etc), the facts won't change: Hikaru is not a cheater/ did not cheat. And chess history will read "former world chess champion went bonkers unable to process/accept that Hikaru's online chess achievement is humanely possible".
Kramnik really tried accusing an ex speed chess champion and one of the top chess creators about cheating💀
absolutely
The Hikarumori will prevail! It's a shame because Kramnik had an amazing career, and this is just a pungent stain on his historically important legacy.
Kramnik beginning his villain ark with this
"buy proper calculators..." Omg I lost it
Kranik is entering his Fischer phase
Considering that Kramnik himself was once accused of cheating, you'd think he'd behave less stupidly.
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Projection is real
He should think it over in the shitter before responding 🤣
its projection, all this crusade is proving is that kramnik is a cheater
that's just it though, his ego is hurt cuz he was the one being accused of cheating and now he got rekt
It's his pride that people "lesser" than him are doing better than him. Non World Champions. Especially Hikaru because Hikky hasn't seriously studied chess for years.
It’s clear to me that Kramnik’s goal is for everyone to interpret the statistics in such a way that will prove that Hikaru is cheating. He will never accept that he is not. The truth is that Kramnik has lost all credibility which now will hurt all of chess. He was trying to help catch cheaters but now he’s let them off the hook because his word means nothing anymore.
Mike Tyson once said, "Social media made y'all way to [sic] comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."
The most based thing said in this century
Better hope he doesn't see that [sic] and pop you for it
the man who is known for accusing people of cheating getting mad when people say hes accusing people of cheating is actually insane
And 'scuse me but we are not going to forget when Topalov had to lock down the bathroom, very sussy on the part of Kramnik.
I think part of the reason cheating is becoming an issue in modern chess is because engines can be used to find new paths 15+ moves in using an opening against a defense and part of chess player's training protocols can include this. This muddies the ability to see top engine moves as being used in the moment or as a consequence of prep?
I'm one of the 'lurkers' you called it. I bought the gotham knights shirt and your recent book but I never comment. Thanks for bringing fun back into chess for me.
Wholesome ❤
You're making the best point that Mr Kramnik is acting like he doesn't know how the web works. But also, using a threat of legal action to publicly make demands is going to look very bad on him in court!
Pretty sure Hikaru could take legal action against him, too.
But I bet Hikaru literally doesn't even care.
Lol hikaru's fanboys are everywhere....
Exactly, the judge and jury will both likely turn on him as they realize he started everything and hurt Hikaru in the process
@@kitsune090 How does Putin taste?
This is insane. I honestly cannot believe what Kramnik is doing. I also am in disbelief that Kramnik has cherrypicked comments in support of him and appears to think everything else is from bots or Hikaru fans. It seems Kramnik has watched some RUclips videos reacting to this and for some reason he can just block them off. Honestly, this is too unbelievable what Kramnik is thinking.
It's hilarious that he's boasting about his petition getting 2K+ signatures so quickly when I quick perusal shows a huge chunk of them are just trolls.
@RaniaIsAwesome I don't read childish comments so that wouldn't the reason for my disbelief. Kramnik's methodology is simply incorrect which is the cause of my disbelief.
I think your comment shed some light. I think perhaps any levelheaded adult who hasn't studied statistics or research methods might actually still strongly believe in Kramnik's methodology. This might be the reason why Kramnik's replies to theory/methodology/calculation based rebuttals is reduced to "bots" and "fans". Perhaps Kramnik is not sick in the mind, but simply that he is unable to comprehend others' works (in addition to narrowmindedness). This could explain how weird his responses are.
Now it could make more sense that Kramnik, who lacks post-secondary education, might read/interpret everything as a simple "you're wrong". If Kramnik is unable to absorb the information being fed to him and is narrowminded, then he would only believe he holds the one true stat.
Prior to your comment, I was more worried about Kramnik's health because he exhibited similar symptoms of certain patients I've observed. To be honest, I hope it is this new possibility because I do hope Kramnik (and everyone else) to be healthy. But honestly the situation is so absurd that I still worry that it could be the other possibility.
Judging from the comments, his supporters are much more reactionary and botlike
@RaniaIsAwesome I'm sorry Mr. Mathematician but can you please provide your credentials to determine something is suspicious?
@RaniaIsAwesome Any level-headed adult who knows anything about how statistics and probabilities work knows Kramnik is full of shit with his baseless accusations. With the amount of games Hikaru has played it would be very unlikely if he hadn't gotten multiple win streaks like that.
If you toss a coin thousands of times and at some point you get a very long streak of heads or tails it would be within expectations. If I cherry pick that long streak and make claims about how unlikely that streak is without taking into account how many repetitions you had to make to get that streak and called you a cheater you probably wouldn't be too happy about it.
And we aren't talking about 50/50 coin tosses in Hikaru's case. Based on their elo differences. His expected win rate against 350 elo rating weaker players is 88%.
It’s shocking the ratio of views to comments and even more shocking the ratio and rude comments to nice comments
Hikaru: life is good. I am doing well
Kramnik: YOUR CHEATING
you're
Kram was my fav player. I'm deeply sad he lost his damn mind.
What's a really awesome game of his you love?
@@TheMosayatmost of his games in the Catalan, Petrofg and Berlin Defense. Checkout his games amazing style
@@TheMosayathis game against kasparov
It's not uncommon for chess grandmasters. I love the way Bobby Fischer plays, but man he went so far off the deep end.
@@rizqidanirijal2888all 10000 of them 😂
It's thrilling how blessed Levy has been with this content
i love how hard gotham is trying to not say that Kramnik "accused" hikaru because of the legal action he might take LMAO
Except he literally did accuse Hikaru. That kind of narrow pedantry would not hold up in most courts.
@@objective_psychology i know he did, but gotham still don't want a piece of it. He even changed the title of one video because it said that kramnik accused hikaru.
@@objective_psychology Aren't you one of the people who made the despicable jokes about Niemann using tools in his ... ?
This is exactly what we want on Netflix, not the Queen's Gambit (with all due respect)
Hi Levy, Just want to say that I bought most of your courses on the black friday and so far I could indeed improve my game a lot, even though I watched 20% of them (Honestly I rewatch certain lectures before starting my chess evening).
Are you planning on making a course about the Scandinavian Defence? That would be great.
Your course are great and you are a cool dude. Keep doing what you are doing:)
I thought Hikaru was being harsh when he said Kramnik was insane. After this it's pretty clear, the man has gone round the bend.
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Is he going to be his own lawyer as well as statistician?
And maybe his own judge?
@@Known_as_The_Ghostdon’t forget him being the jury and witness
He's not suing anyone. It's the math. The math is suing everyone.
You asking for a villain, it looks like we got 2
Displate made a THE ROOK one. So proud.
The biggest piece of news in this video is the Opera still exists
Almost every youtuber I watch has promoted it this week 😂 they're going all out
OPERA GX
Opera for chess!
Been using opera for a long time, the only browser that compares at this time is Firefox
I actually use it
This guy is getting ready to be the Billy Mitchell of the Chess world.
I'm glad to see when my cultural spheres intersect, lol. However, Kramnik isn't a sociopath like Mitchell. He's merely going crazy. I think Kramnik would be an ok dude if he wasn't so possessed by his emotions. Meanwhile, I'm not sure Mitchell has the capacity for any emotion except selfish anger and smugness, at least not anymore.
I haven't heard about Billy Mitchell is a hot minute, I need to see what he's up to
@@bigbird4481 if you want a biased but well-informed opinion, one of the people he's suing is a RUclipsr - Karl Jobst, who Mitchell is suing for defamation.
@@bigbird4481nothing new, more of the same, lies ontop of more lies ontop of still suing Karl Jobst and losing the narrative as more evidence comes out that proves he’s a liar. Billy is just getting bodied everyday.
@@AgainstMyBetterJudgement oh I love Karl, that's where I heard about little Billy lol
I'm very sad for Kramnik and a bit sad for the whole chess community, it will not help the battle against cheaters.
He did not stop adding the shrooms to his cool Aid...let this be a lesson to you all.
Shouting back at ya from lurking here in the shadows!
Kramnik is out of his mind. It's just funny how they proved to him several times such a streak is possible and he's still like "that's fake data, give me the real data". lol
Even Hikaru went to play the other day and got a 40+ streak easy, just to prove a point.
So many mathematicians tried to explain this to Kramnik on his blog, showing their work, and Kramnik still brushed them all aside and called it nonsense. He just doesn't understand math.
@@Temptthedevil Kramnik never went to high school so how could he possibly understand their explanations?
Kramnik has really never heard the meme "Bro thinks he's Hikaru"
Lmaooooo 😂😂😂😂😂
Never let Kramnik play Call of Duty or he'll sue everyone in every lobby he's in
Underrated Levy trope is always letting us know the year or date
Kramnik pulling off full-fledged Bobby Fisher
Kramnik's going off the deep end.
I‘m one of these ppl just watching and actually rly rarely comment, but just wanted to say i love your statement u did here. It‘s true, it‘s the internet and if u give the trolls on the internet a chance to contact and insult u, u shouldn‘t cry abt it and sue platforms.
Keep ur work up, i love your content, also your chess news!
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I like how he uses "deepest respect" at the end after insulting them lol
And he sued... THE ROOK!
Ok, wild theory - Kramnik tried alcoholism for the first time in his life?
Which once again proves my theory: Intelligence in chess is in no way an indicator of general intelligence.
That's not your theory it's just accepted in general
Because to me, it's not really like you need to be "intelligent" to play chess. After all, AI are not intelligent per se and they are far better than us. It's way more about pattern recognition, memory, time management, and focus than anything else.
@@HaydenNK3General intelligence isn't really a thing either. You can be academically intelligent, but not socially intelligent. You can fail all your classes, but be a very smart football player. Etc etc
@@andyyang3029in general? No way. Every non chess player equates chess skill with high intelligence.
@@HaydenNK3those things you mentioned at the end are all pretty significantly indicative of someone's intelligence. It is not a coincidence that chess masters are typically 150 iq+
I dont think kramink can handle the fact that there are people way more better than him
Kramnik is a world chess champion bro. He did beat the legendary Garry Kasparow.
@@commentwarriormaybe that’s the reason, he doesn’t believe chess proficiency can decline with age, so assumes everyone must be cheating.
@@andrewolivetreemixing Just no
@@commentwarrior just yes
@@HaydenNK3 what yes? That Kramnik doesn't know the human brain degenerates as it gets older? Please don't think with emotions. Just because a person accuses your idol, this person doesn't know that 1+1 equals 2? Try to be realistic dear friend!
Sounds like his ego can’t let him put it in reverse gear. He’s strapped in and hitting the gas
Kramnik is just making a scene unnecessarily
all us lurkers salute you in spirit mr chess man
Funny side of the story: Kramnik seems to be "above the law". There are not many Chess players who could accuse others in such a toxic manner while still being "respected". Being a former World Champion has its perks i guess.
This takes "don't hate the player, hate the game" to a whole other level
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"A closed mouth gathers no foot" a wise lurker once said.
I work with stats a lot. Kramnik is exhibiting some extreme dunning Kruger effect here. Stats often don't make sense unless you are well versed in the maths.
*I'm sure magnus watches levy while eating xD*
I hope we can get back to a time where the biggest story about Chess is the actual games!
Just don't tell Kramnika about the birthday paradox, where if you get a small group of people it's more likely that they share a birthday than not. It'd blow his mind!
Thanks for the shoutout for lurking in the background 🤣
Kramnik is turning into Paul Charles Dozsa
I got it. Kramnik and Hans spend some time together training and to bond they talked about their favorite chess players and realized they both love Fischer. So Hans started imitating him by repeating his quote and Kramnik by going insane.
Its crazy how some people are trying to grow chess and reach the younger generations. But then theres people like this who really just mud things down
levy never fails to add ?????? in his title
Did you check Indian express article? Hikaru used to accuse Arjun Erigaisi of cheating without any proof.
"Hikaru used to accuse Arjun of cheating. This was two or three years back. He was pretty confrontative about it. Arjun felt sad about it, that someone he looked up to as a chess player was accusing him just because he was playing well,” says Srinath, who was a coach and mentor for the young Indian prodigy.
I think kramnik just wants attention
Great content Levy. Thanks for keeping us updated on the situation 👍
Full time lurker here. Killer analysis as always Gotham. Much appreciated.
I dont usually comment, but i ll do it now for the first time on this channel. Just wanted to thank you for your content, for your book and your way of explaining chess in a fantastic way :) you contribute on making chess very enjoyable and fun :) thanks a lot ! Greetings from snowy Zürich :)
Tempest in a teapot.
Kramnik running interference for his prodigy's "interesting" return
It’s just that kind of year when Levy cares more about a cheating scandal than Magnus’s birthday