THE “BABY KAHR” KAHR P380 .380 ACP CONCEAL CARRY PISTOL
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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- HISTORY -
Kahr Arms was founded twenty-six years ago in 1995 by Justin Moon in New York. Unable to find a compact gun in a caliber that he was satisfied with, he decided to design and make his own.
“With the objective of excellence in workmanship and material, Kahr does not compromise either in the design or manufacture of handguns. The most advanced computer applications and precise manufacturing technologies have been implemented to provide the finest handgun available. Uniquely designed and finely tooled, Kahr pistols’ unrivaled quality makes long-term Kahr owners out of shooters who try them.” -Kahr Arms
Kahr takes great pride in the CAD (computer-aided design) and CAM (computer-aided modeling) that they use to design and model each pistol that they manufacture.
The Kahr P380, chambered in .380 Auto, comes in three main styles: all matte black, black frame with a stainless slide, and a custom engraved Black Rose edition. All three styles come standard with drift adjustable, white bar-dot combat sights but can also be purchased with drift adjustable tritium night sights. The P380 can also be purchased with a loaded chamber indicator.
- SPECS -
Caliber: .380 ACP
Capacity: 6+1
Operation: Trigger cocking DAO; lock breech; “Browning - type” recoil lug; passive striker block; no magazine disconnect
Barrel: 2.53″, Premium Lothar Walther Match Grade Barrel
Length O/A: 4.9″
Height: 3.9″
Slide Width: .75″
Weight: Pistol 9.97 ounces (w/o magazine)
Grips: Textured polymer
Sights: Drift adjustable, tritium night sights
Finish: Black polymer frame, matte blackened stainless steel slide
Magazines: 6 rd, Stainless flush, 6 rd, Stainless picky w/extended magazine base grip, 1-7 rd, Stainless w/extended magazine base grip
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Truth: This morning, I installed 7 & 8 round Mag Guts in my two P380 factory magazines keeping the factory base plates. One extra round in each. Easy. So 8+1 is not bad in the one. Thanks for reviewing the P380.
Karh pistols are fantastic if you can convince people you don't need a safety to carry a gun. I have two in different calibers. Fantastic shooters. You don't know until you know.
I agree. Glock doesn't have a safety beside the trigger... and no sticking their finger on it before they are ready to fire.
I have Kahr MK 9. It took 300 rounds to break it where I felt confident in carrying it. Great Gun !
Oh, that’s awesome! Thanks for sharing your feedback. It’s always nice to hear other peoples experiences.
I love my Kahr pistols! They're like a sexier looking Glock. My break-in period for my CW380 and PM9 were flawless.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing your feedback. I love to hear others experiences.
My ccw is my Kahr p380.
I live in California so I am required to have the stupid red chamber indicator to be Ca compliant.
With that said, I LOVE my Kahr.
I have had a few problems with jamming/chambering, only to land at the issue being the two after market 7 round magazines.
Now that I've put over 500 rounds through it, it cycles perfectly.
I run Hornady CD .380acp for my carry.
I AVOID Winchester rounds.
Its so small!
I can keep it behind my wallet in my back pocket (my wallet is thin).
I am more accurate with this than with my friends' larger guns.
I highly recommend carrying one.
That is awesome feedback. For a semi-auto pistol in this size, it's an amazing option for a carry firearm during any time of the year and outfit. They do shoot well and group tightly.
Where did you buy it
Congrats on making your video reach Kahr Firearms Group! Like I mentioned before it’s awesome to see someone share light on these awesome firearms.
Love my P380! Never had an issue with it. I just bought a used (like new) all black PM9 for $250! Awesome pocket companion! Great to see love given to a great and yet unappreciated gun.
And .380 is anemic 😂
Great find! Oh there you go that’s not a bad deal! Yeah, anytime I run across deals like that I’ll try to jump on them. Thank you again for the feedback!
Living in a very gun restrictive state with a list of approved handguns for purchase, I love my Kahr P380. I find that it has similar recoil to my gen1 S&W Shield in 9mm. I also highly recommend Magguts +1 magazine springs for both the 6 and 7 round magazines as they have been perfectly reliable for hundreds of rounds. My brother in law likes the pistol so much that when I said I would buy him a pistol for him to use to get his CCW, he said that he wants the PM9, which is the 9mm model and is just slightly larger. The heavy dual recoil spring really helps make the P380 less jumpy, but makes it more difficult to rack the slide for people with less strength. The only malfunctions I have had were during the break in period and once it did not lock back on empty with some very questionable ammo.
Thank you so much for the feedback. I love hearing about other peoples opinions or experiences on these pistols. I know that if people get behind these pistols, most of them actually do enjoy, and like the Kahr firearms. You can’t make everybody happy but there’s a lot of people that are happy with these pistols
The “rolling break” makes it almost impossible to have that anticipation flinch making it very accurate.
They do shoot well.
You got a steal!
The spring tension on my new CW380 is quite significant. Using extended length of time lock back for break in.
My wife an I both bought P380s to carry. Love the style and the size is unbeatable. However, after not shooting for several months, went to the range and they failed miserably. I have never in my life seen two guns fail so badly at the same time. Tried cleaning, different ammo. Got rid of them the next day and went with the Sig 365. I have a PM9 and never had an issue.
Oh wow yeah I’ve heard of that before but I’ve never owned that one per se. I do really like my Sig 365X macro, but for some reason, I shoot my Glock 43X a lot better?!
The part of a small pistol that tends to print first when carried either IWB or OWB from 3-4:30 is the REAR of the butt.
That's why so many of those pinky extensions are made for a lot of different pistols. There is a real use and market for it. I have carried a P380 with the 6 rd mag w/pinky extension, and the extra 7rd mag backup in summer w/very light clothing for just this reason. Best of luck on your channel! I subscribed.
I do appreciate it. Thank you.
I have the cousin of these kahrs, the naa guardian 380 (frames were made by kahr at one time). These 2 companies built semi autos that may require “break in”, I’ve found that breaking them down and polishing less vital contact areas (not sear but everything else). I’ve had them run flawlessly at the first mag now with this rework.
It doesn’t bother me because at their price they come as is. If these tighter tol pistols were fully polished they would be cost prohibitive for many, including myself.
I’m at the point where you cover break in via polish. I’ve used flex hone as well for chamber/ramp or charge holes (357 with 38 carbon).
First, thank you for spending the time to share your feedback and opinion! I really love hearing other peoples experiences and maybe the steps or methods to overcome an issue like barrel break-in.
That background, though!
Looks like a painting. Beautiful nature. 👍🏼🤟🏼🙂
Thank you. You guys will really like the new house the background. My front yard view is incredible better than the rental!
Just ordered my kahr p380 and I’m in Cali so they bent me over no Vaseline price wise but I can’t wait lol
I am sorry that sounds painful... but I do think it's a good firearm. Let us know once you get it and start breaking it in.
@@GunsmithBeard will do!
@@GunsmithBeard For anyone on the fence about buying a P380 I just bought one on the 10th of this month. I took it to the range today. I shot fiocchi 95 grain Fmj and hornady critical defense both ran flawless not one fte ftf or ftb the extractor did look to be filed down and feeding ramp polished. I cycled the ammo in the gun manually at home and it didn’t jam so I had a good feeling it wouldn’t jam. Also when I tried to rack the slide to load it, it would jam up but if I used the slide stop after inserting magazine it worked perfect everytime. There was some surface rust inside the gun when I took it apart but it all wiped away. I bought it in California from turners. I’m very happy with my purchase. If it will shoot fiocchi it will shot anything. I noticed a lot of people that were complaining about them in comments were from years ago. I’m pretty sure if you buy a p380 in 2024 it will be de bugged
@@gotnitro4329 what made you choose this over the P238?
@@714SNF the p380 is lighter, thinner , has better sights. Overall smaller package then the p238 also a lot if people were having issue with the slide just popping off the p238. I’ve also liked glock more then 1911s so I liked the p380 aesthetic more.
I wear 2XL gloves and my big trigger finger gets into sharp corner on upper side of trigger on a kahr pistol. Ive only dry fired them in the store myself. You take care.🇺🇲🔪🌲🔥
I did find a replacement trigger shoe for KAHR pistols but only the following models: Fits Kahr C, S, T, P, MK, and PM series of pistols in 9, 40, and 45 caliber by Galloway Precision. The trigger is called the "Gallowglass Flat Faced Short Stroke Trigger"
Always important to get spare mags and parts for your ccs
Thanks for your insights. Preciate ya.
Anytime!
Wow insane to get this for under 200 that is awesome, I just the other day picked up a slightly used pm9 for $400 it's my first ever concealed carry
Congratulations I hope you enjoy it as much I enjoy mine!
Looks like a cool little pistol.
Thank you!!!🙏🏼
Had a stainless p380. Was finicky on ammo, yea but was still an awesome pocket only church gun in a Vedder Pocket Locker holster. Sold it and got a Glock 42! wtf was I thinking? The Glock is not a pocket gun. It can be but not really. It’s really not much smaller than my edc shield 2.0.
Im trading it in towards a new Kahr p380 in black with nite sites.
I dont mind the break in process. Kinda fun once it finds the ammo it likes.
I hand cycle it like 500 times fast. Takes like 10 minutes. Clean it, open it and leave it open in the safe for a few days.
I feel it’s the best pocket gun out there.
Kahr on Sunday mornings in church only, Shields for my IWB edc
Edit
So I got my new p380 and started the break in process. After 50 rounds of various ammo brands it fired everything flawlessly. Only problem was with Hornady Critical Defense the first round wasn’t properly feeding with slide release. Once I got it to feed then they would cycle properly. Fmj all fired without a hiccup. It really liked Remington HTP hollow points! I’m really happy so far with this gun.
Lov the feedback! Thank you 🙏🏼 Kahr firearms are the underdogs, but well priced in most places.
Few points I didn't make in your other video.
Price: This always stumps me when people say a firearm is too expensive, since you will spend far more on ammunition getting and maintaining skill with most firearms than you will spend on the actual firearm. It is like people are buying a cheap pistol, almost never firing it, and thinking they will be good in a high stress situation. If you don't practice drawing and firing your pistol then when you need it you will most likely flub the draw and not hit anything.
Upgrades: M-Carbo makes two good upgrades that are fairly cheap at $15 each, a Stainless Steel Striker Guide (replaces a plastic part for improved reliability) and a trigger spring kit (reduces trigger pull to ~4 lbs). While not generally needed, I didn't use ether for over a decade, they help with a few of the niggles some people have with a Kahr pistol. For those who want better performance out of their magazines, there is Magguts +1 Springs or Lakelines Metal Magazine Follower. Both make the magazines more reliable and perform better, with the Lakeline being best and the Magguts getting an extra round.
Holsters: The most important thing for a concealed carry pistol is the holster. You want a good one that fits your body comfortably and conceals the pistol. I have a dozen for my PM9, but have settled on using two CrossBreed holsters, an AIWB in horsehide and a Cargo Pocket Rocket. Normally use the Cargo Pocket Rocket since it slips into my back pocket, is super easy to use, and does not print.
Wow, this is really good feedback and a great point of view. Thanks for sharing.
My Kahr CM9 is one of favorite CCW’s. I do get trigger bite from the gallowglass performance trigger I installed,the factory trigger also was painful when I shoot multiple magazines through it at the range. However…..if I was in an actual defense situation I wouldn’t care about alittle finger discomfort. I like the 380, but prefer the cm9.
Oh that’s great feedback. Thanks for sharing. I wondered if that trigger was any better I guess if not.
I’m afraid you must be mistaken. Never since this gun came out has it been seen anywhere for under $550, usually $650.
I was not mistaken. I walked in the dealership in an old country store looked in the glass cabinet and the guy wanted $150 for this gun looked inside the heart case and that was about five magazines that were included. Granted the gun was used, but I was at the right place at the right time!
Insanely awesome deal! If the dealer would’ve had more I would have bought all of them for that price!!!
Ok, sorry bout that. I didn’t realize you’d bought it used. I’ve had my P380 for 8 years and carry it every summer. It’s a peach.
Solid !
Fun fact: Justin Moon is the son of reverend Sun Myung Moon of the unification church Their cult members were referred to as Moonies In any case, he designed one hell of a pistol.
Interesting. I didn’t know that. I learned something each and every day!
@@GunsmithBeardhe is correct- look up the church of the AR15 on RUclips. A pro 2a cult centered around Pennsylvania. Just because they have their own beliefs doesn’t mean they can’t design a good gun- in comparison I love commie guns like AKs yet I don’t like communism at all. In America we are pro 2a and don’t restrict people’s religious freedom or right to defend themselves from immediate threats- at least we shouldn’t anyways. so if you don’t like his faith you can still like his guns
Man I wish I can find me one for that price
CA shops charge a lot.
Yeah, I heard that and that is terribly unfortunate! I wonder if that stems from the approval list that CA has?! Maybe my Californian brothers can expound on that more than I can.
Mine was hard to learn, but OK now.
I can see that. Thanks for sharing your feedback.
380acp is a short 9mm . The difference is the amount of powder .
Bingo!
@GunsmithBeard How does the black finish hold up? Ive heard good and bad. I don't think its dlc or tennifer like Glocks thats nearly indestructible.
I have had great luck with mine! No issues w/ the finish.
@@GunsmithBeard thanks
@@JillsNipple A PM9 Black Diamond edition (which was the first to use their Diamond Black finish, as found on his pistol) has been my near daily carry for almost 15 years now. The finish is not flawless anymore, but there are no wear spots in it.
@@TheInfinityzeN yea I'm not too worried about as I already ordered the gun and it's at my FFL now. I appreciate the feedback. I carry my guns as you do and not too concerned with looks... Mainly function.
my cm and cw came in card boardboxes
I guess it depends if it was an early production vs. late production, because my CW, and Cm’s have a black hard case.
What a buy!
Mine won’t cycle Remington fmj
When I first got mine, I had tons of issues like that. After shooting it a lot when ammo was a little cheaper it works flawlessly now.