Add dry/wet knob to any device in Ableton | 3 Minute Tutorial
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- DECAP shows an easy way how to add dry wet knob to any device in Ableton.
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Make sure you have your zone ranges set to 1-127 and 0-126 rather than both 0-127, otherwise you won't have a 100% wet or dry signal
Thank you, I was wondering why it still showed a signal on the side that was completely mixed out.
im guessing wet should be 0-126?
Something that should genuinely just be built into Ableton grouping
Thanks for the great video
Reaper has dry/wet controls next to the plugins' bypass buttons since ages. Why Ableton doesn't have this feature is beyond me.
its really weird not having wet mix on a daw lol
Dear lord. I'm coming from Reaper, but because I love some of the features I'm trying out Ableton, but having to do all of this for something that by all means should just be a knob is really killing me rn.
This can also be used with two different "Wet" chains to create something like a "Blend" knob of two (or more) FX. So you could say, have a chorus on Chain 1, a reverb on Chain 2, and then blend as you see fit. You could even then add a "Dry/Wet" as DECAP showed here to mix the blended signal with the dry. Definitely a lot of room here for cool sound design.
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This vid will never get old, such a lifesaver
i am glad you using ableton and i can learn more things, i ve got some friends using fl studio, cubase or logic pro and every time i told them about im using ableton they refuse to use it and telling me the other programs are better
That's not cool, not to brag or seem obnoxious, but I use both FL Studio 20 and Ableton Live 10 Lite, and I absolutely love utilizing both of them! It doesn't even really matter what type of music you create, its the tools that you use to create the music with that makes all the difference.
Thanks for the quick, concise tutorial!
Ableton is just awesome!
Thanks! Very helpful!
Absolute game changer. What a massive time saver. Thank you.
Dude your killin it w these tutorials
This is a major gem...wow
Reid Stefan has been promoting this method for ever on his channel, but I like how DECAP elaborated on how to map it into an actual control knob
thank you decap wanting to try this with some waves plugins
It’s one thing to have a good DAW but when it gives you the ability to somewhat build a tool you need... now that’s brilliant
Been looking for this for years!
This is exactly what i needed! Subbed so quick lol
Always dropping gems!!!
thanks for the info
Beautiful - thank you my man!
Yooo im loving this tricks never knew this
u dont get how much i love this vids!!! keep it up
this is so much work lol, fl has a dry wet knob for every single plugin by default
yup thats a nice feature of fl. some plugins start to phase though
You do it one time and it’s saved. That’s not a lot of work. You can create dry/wet for plug-ins that are NOT native to FL or Ableton.
@@snares3326 they dont have phase issues in the newer fl versions because of plugin delay compensation
@@JoeyXcv FRUITY POOPS
Are you able to show our how to recreate some of the Fruity Love Philter presets in Ableton Auto Filter?
For example the Simple Triangle Lowpass LFO preset in FL, works really good for that underwater affect on a pre hook or bridge in a track.
good video chavala
the warmth
Wat. How did you remove the audio effect rack knobs you didn't want? I just tried using "delete" but that didn't work!
This workaround is not as good as a real wet/dry knob. The volume curves don't match up properly, so the signal gets significantly louder when the knob is halfway between wet and dry (I measured roughly 3dB). Then, there are the phase issues. So, Ableton should develop a real wet/dry utility, and people should stop pretending this is the same as the wet/dry functionality on plugins. (Not that I don't value Decap's content, but there are lots of videos of this technique already, and few of them mention its shortcomings, which you would expect from seemingly 'educational' youtubers.)
Man THANK YOU!
I was about to write the same since I've found these issues you mentioned to be extremely annoying, to the point of making this workaround completely unusable for me.
I agree that Ableton should just add an Dry/Wet Utility by default. Also I don't want to be hating on Decap, but he conveniently sweeps extremely fast past the middle point of the dry/wet knob. As if he knew this was an issue.
Is there another solution that gets it better? I definitely notice the drastic change from 0% to 1%. It just jumps in instead of fading. Definitely concerned with phasing as well because I planned on using this on master chain effects.
@@DerickHoward Not that I know of!
There is a paid plugin that offers wet/dry control. Can't remember what it's called, but it acts like a container for other plugins. In my view, it is not worth the hassle.
exactly. this introduces bad bad phase issues. not good advice honestly.
there should be a stock dry/wet device
Save the rack to your user library without any effects on it. Then you've got yourself a stock dry/wet 👍
Yes, there should be, since this workaround isn't as good as a real wet/dry knob.
@@robschneider7143 Why is it not as good? This does exactly what a dry/wet knob does
@@vaporcruise It does *roughly* what a wet/dry knob does; not exactly. Wet/dry knobs have matched volume curves between the two signals, so the output maintains the same amplitude as you blend between the two signals. This method lacks matched volume curves, so, the output gets significantly louder when the signals are blended, and gets quieter when set to 100% wet or 100% dry. This method also fails to compensate for any delay introduced by plugins, which could result in unwanted phasing effects.
All in all, this technique may be useful, especially for very blatant effects like autofilter. But, for more subtle effects, such as saturation or chorus, or where you want to automate the wet/dry, the unmatched volume curves make this technique less suitable, as do the potential phase issues. A dedicated wet/dry utility could avoid these issues.
@@robschneider7143 Yeah that's fair. It's about a 3dB increase, which isn't super significant and barely noticeable imo. Every stock effect aside from the EQ's, Auto Filter, Gate, and Limiter have either a dry/wet or amount knob, so you could use those instead if you're worried about latency introduced phasing. Ableton also tells you the amount of latency in the status bar when you hover over the device title bar, so you could always delay your dry signal by that amount to help avoid that also. But honestly, these issues are so minor I can't imagine ableton spending the time to develop an entirely new device for this. If anything, I'd think that ableton is more likely to update the racks to include equal-loudness curves like they did for the dry/wet knob on Echo, and maybe add in an option for auto latency compensation. Idk, I guess we'll see haha
Can't believe they still did not implement this super basic feature in 2023.
Pfew. I thought you were just gonna group it and call it a day. But this pretty useful
Can we make this for midi effects also?
this is actually a longer way id say , for a easy Ableton dry wet group your effect like decay did but instead of duplicating the chain with the effect create a new chain and BAM ! the two volumes are now your dry and wet , the one with the effect is at 100% of however you set it then you blend it in with volume
So what, do you map them both midi as inverte, so one goes up as the other goes down? Without that, it’s not technically a wet/dry knob and more of just a blend in effect.
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Thank you for the tutorial, it doesn't make sense that Ableton doesn't have a dry wet knob by default. I'm used to FL's mixer and it makes much more sense to me compared to how effects are handled on Ableton. Not saying FL is godly and perfect or whatever, but having to learn another set of arbitrary workarounds is really tough for me when I'm already used to FL's bullshit lol
Ableton be like lego sets. I love it.
Get a mouse tracker so we can see what you're clicking on.
If I were an Ableton developer, I would be embarrassed that somebody has to do this much stuff to achieve something which is squarely in the realm of basic functionality, but whatever. Also, it seems like somebody would have created a wet/dry M4L utility device by now, but I can't find one when I search Google.
almost 2024, embarrassing Ableton still doesnt have a dry/wet knob by default, Bitwig has it
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