BISPING: Alex Pereira is "POUND for POUND No.1!?" | AHEAD of Islam and Jones? 🤔

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
  • Michael Bisping gives his breakdown of Alex Pereira being ranked 2nd in the pound for pound rankings ahead of Jon Jones but under Islam Makhachev after his knockout win vs Khalil Rountree at UFC 307
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Комментарии • 495

  • @RyanWegner
    @RyanWegner 6 часов назад +172

    Pereira isn’t only the most active, but he’s torn through two divisions. There’s absolutely no way you can put Islam or Jones above him if you take activity into account. Especially when Jones is ducking Aspinall.

    • @GS-rm7fv
      @GS-rm7fv 6 часов назад +16

      Pereira did not tear through MW 🤣 Strickland and Adesanya are the only top 15 fighters from MW he faced, both strikers. You are a certified casual

    • @RyanWegner
      @RyanWegner 6 часов назад +17

      @@GS-rm7fv That is a very good point. I stand corrected. He still reached the top of two divisions though - let’s not pretend he would’ve lost to the likes of Cannonier, Vettori, Costa etc though lol. P.S. I’m not a casual but that was a pretty casual mistake by me 🤣

    • @keorodriguez
      @keorodriguez 5 часов назад +1

      1000% true

    • @KerioFive
      @KerioFive 5 часов назад

      🦆

    • @conservativefather5446
      @conservativefather5446 5 часов назад

      You are a clown. How could Jones duck Aspinal when he’s been booked to fight Stipe for almost two years? Why would he mess up that legacy fight two years in the making? Makes no sense. You are like the democrats and repeat what the news tells ya. Instead of the news, you repeat what the casuals say.

  • @beastofnature5836
    @beastofnature5836 5 часов назад +102

    khabib retired undefeated because he retired at 32…chama defends the belt 3 times in 7 months at 37 years of age….plus 5 former champions compared to khabib’s 2…two division champ vs single division…this is hardly a conversation now

    • @albertgarcia9273
      @albertgarcia9273 4 часа назад +6

      Khabib wasnt fast tracked to the title.

    • @Culture_2520
      @Culture_2520 4 часа назад +22

      ​@@albertgarcia9273khabib only fought 2 legit guys Dustin and Justin and khabib has fought tomato cans and Alex was already glory 2 division champion and he defeated Strickland and Izzy

    • @albertgarcia9273
      @albertgarcia9273 4 часа назад +4

      @@Culture_2520 ok. What other “legit guys” were available and ranked at the time that he didnt fight?

    • @albertgarcia9273
      @albertgarcia9273 4 часа назад +1

      @@Culture_2520 Strickland sucks.

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 4 часа назад +7

      @@Culture_2520 RDA isn't legit? And Conor was literally a double champ. Casual spotted.

  • @muhdhafeez7574
    @muhdhafeez7574 5 часов назад +41

    Im an Islam and khabib fan but I right now Pereira is p4p king. Props to him

    • @iitzhasheem
      @iitzhasheem 5 часов назад +1

      If he wasn't number one before this fight I'm not sure beating the number 8 ranked fighter in your division makes you number one lol

    • @chrishayes5755
      @chrishayes5755 3 часа назад +1

      You can't really be p4p best when you have glaring holes in your game. Alex is an elite striker but his ground game and wrestling is weak. UFC is protecting him because he's so fun and they have no stars. Until we see Alex face an elite wrestler who tries to get him down over and over it's real hard for me to rate his game as complete.

    • @MAkAVeLlIiii
      @MAkAVeLlIiii 2 часа назад

      ​@@chrishayes5755you casuals will find ANYTHING to complain about. Even when Alex knocks Magomed out... you'll be like "Alex only won bc magomed didn't wrestle. Alex has beaten like 5 world champions who's been doing MMA way longer than him. Stop with the excuses

    • @jeffreysmith9837
      @jeffreysmith9837 2 часа назад

      ​@@MAkAVeLlIiiiit's simply true. I'd put Pereira higher on GOAT list than p4p

    • @shadowzeenko3653
      @shadowzeenko3653 2 часа назад

      Khabib has been out of the game for almost 5 years and people are still talking about him. There's an unhealthy obsession with this guy. Why compare two guys from two different weight classes that fought in different timelines?
      Pereira wasn't even in the UFC when Khaibb retired from the sport of MMA.
      It's like comparing Charles Oliveira with Anderson Silva. Complete nonsense.
      People need to take in consideration that Pereira fights in the weakest, less talented division in MMA.
      The LHW division is washed, let's be honest. And the only guy who could give Alex some real problems isn't in Dana White's plans for the future. He'd rather have Rakic or Ulberg as the new faces of this division once Pereira leaves the UFC.

  • @mateussw93
    @mateussw93 6 часов назад +31

    Khabib beat 2 world champions in his whole career.
    Alex so far has beaten 5 (4 KO’s )

    • @supergangstar1234
      @supergangstar1234 6 часов назад +4

      Not to forget that he is a 2 division weight champ. The guy had the best start in ufc history.

    • @jek2135
      @jek2135 3 часа назад

      Ofcourse how can he defeat other UFC champions when it was not offered by UFC? But without a doubt, Khabib can easily defeat and smash former UFC champions
      - Henderson who was knockout by Dos Anjos and chocked by Usman Nurmagomedov. Khabib will easily smash him.
      - Pettis who lost to Dos Anjos, submitted by Poirier and knockout by Ferguson. Khabib will easily smash him also.
      - Alvarez who was knockout by Poirier & McGregor. Did you forget that Khabib easily choked McChicken and Poirier?
      - Edgar who lost to Henderson twice, lost to Aldo twice. Khabib will easily smash him.
      - Penn who lost to Edgar 3 times. If Penn can't win against Edgar, how can he defeat Khabib?
      - Oliveira who was knockdown and choked by Islam. Khabib will smash him easily and choke.

    • @CoinChocholate
      @CoinChocholate 59 минут назад

      ​@@supergangstar1234but never defend his MW title because he got knock tf out...and khabib is Undefeated never bleed a dominant fighter, islam face more high caliber fighters for his title defence, beat volk the no2pfp twice, poirier with a war..., alex is not that guy

    • @supergangstar1234
      @supergangstar1234 46 минут назад

      @@CoinChocholate Yeah and more then half of Khabib his opponents were record builders. Khabib also never moved up in weight hè rather killed himself to stay at lightweight so he could face strikers. Pereira on the other hand came into the ufc and beat top contender after top contender. And becaume double champ within his first 11 mma fights. So yeah… what’s your point? Khabib was good, but you cannot compare a weight bully with someone who became double champ faster then anyone before. If Khabib was that great he would have faced Usman back in the day or GSP at welterweight, but no Khabib rather be a weight bully and talk about legacy. You probably just a troll who doesn’t know what he is talking about.

    • @brokegymrat8354
      @brokegymrat8354 30 минут назад

      @@jek2135bro khabib was boring asf I don’t care how many victories all of them boring

  • @zezeti2246
    @zezeti2246 5 часов назад +41

    Mike,I don't think beating a mid 40s retired Miocic is the flex you think it is😂

    • @lumbruhjack8888
      @lumbruhjack8888 2 часа назад

      Jon Jones eats Alex lol

    • @SoggyButtowski
      @SoggyButtowski Час назад +2

      ​@lumbruhjack8888 yeah, probably. But alex only needs one left hook 😅

  • @gdarippa69
    @gdarippa69 6 часов назад +39

    Since November 2020.
    Jones is 1-0
    Pereira is 10-1
    Islam is 8-0 with 1 questionable decision

    • @zezeti2246
      @zezeti2246 5 часов назад +5

      I take into account only the title fights,Islam barely won his first title defence,2nd time had opponent on short notice,and 3rd was against a dude that had his peak a few years ago😂

    • @ZacJackson-y2q
      @ZacJackson-y2q 5 часов назад +1

      Lmao thats an insane stat. Alex def #1 P4P.

    • @douglasdbs7139
      @douglasdbs7139 5 часов назад +3

      It is insane that Jon Jones only fought 1 time in the last 4 years. We literally had 2 summer Olympic games in that meantime

    • @marghooburrahman3051
      @marghooburrahman3051 5 часов назад +3

      Alex got ko'd bad and won hard fight against #8 ranked guy

    • @ZacJackson-y2q
      @ZacJackson-y2q 5 часов назад +4

      @@marghooburrahman3051 only reason he lost was because he was weight drained and rushed in, he was dominating. He beat Izzy 3 times. Eventually if u fight someone 5 times you'll win one.

  • @NoGo-nl5ll
    @NoGo-nl5ll 6 часов назад +37

    Pereira 100% has a better record than Khabib. Took Khabib 18 fights to fight anyone of note, then fought a few gatekeepers like old as shit Barboza, Raging Al, and Michael Johnson; Then fought a few striking only fighters in Gaethje, Poirier and Conor, then retired. He also conveniently retired right before he was set to fight the murderers row of grapplers that Islam took up the mantle against.
    Hell, Islam is already VERY close to overtaking Khabib and has fought more well rounded competition.

    • @ByTexify
      @ByTexify 5 часов назад +6

      Islam has already overtaken Khabib in my opinion. Khabibs resume is super overrated

    • @theunbeatable6598
      @theunbeatable6598 5 часов назад +3

      Lmao khabib mauled everyone, Pereira beat mid fighters

    • @polargeorge5872
      @polargeorge5872 5 часов назад +2

      Khabibs record is solid. Definitely not the greatest, but he did what he wanted with his career, and got out undefeated when he wanted. Smart man if you're thinking about life after fighting.

    • @ByTexify
      @ByTexify 5 часов назад +4

      @@theunbeatable6598 Delusion is a real thing

    • @theunbeatable6598
      @theunbeatable6598 5 часов назад +2

      @@ByTexify Something all khabib hating Conor fangirls suffer from

  • @PraveenKalaivanan-x7o
    @PraveenKalaivanan-x7o 6 часов назад +18

    The pound for pound talk is overdone! I’m baffled that people care so much just like the GOAT topic. I swear it’s just there for people to argue very silly.

    • @Ziggyvu
      @Ziggyvu 5 часов назад

      It’s a fun topic it’s not THAT serious lol

    • @buffyamcha4655
      @buffyamcha4655 3 часа назад

      ​@@Ziggyvu Most people take it THAT serious lol

    • @igallagher4
      @igallagher4 28 минут назад

      What about a good conversation about "Mount Rushmore"

  • @pigeonwaltz
    @pigeonwaltz 5 часов назад +24

    Dana gave Bisping permission (during said oiling) to give Pereira the number one spot, but only until Jones beats a forty-two-year-old who hasn't won a fight since August 15, 2020.
    _Make it make sense._

    • @wowcarnage
      @wowcarnage 5 часов назад +1

      So if he says Jones is nr1 it's because of Dana. But if he says it's Pereira, then it's also because of Dana? That's some straight 12yo logic right there.
      Make it make sense

    • @aureliocasillas7363
      @aureliocasillas7363 5 часов назад +1

      Bisping is a super sellout companyman and i like him alot

    • @pigeonwaltz
      @pigeonwaltz 4 часа назад

      ​@@wowcarnage You've failed to make it make sense, congrats.

    • @wowcarnage
      @wowcarnage 4 часа назад

      @@pigeonwaltz That's because your statement doesn't make any sense to begin with. But great response🤡 You've failed to even clarify your dumbass statement. Congrats. I was only joking but I guess you really are 12yo. Just Parrotting what you hears youtubers say without really understanding the words that you're saying.

  • @nope44589
    @nope44589 6 часов назад +20

    he lost a round to conor

    • @kawhileonard9082
      @kawhileonard9082 5 часов назад +4

      And to Gleison Tibau

    • @devoid2783
      @devoid2783 5 часов назад

      ​@@kawhileonard9082 I would argue he lost the damn fight even though he fought a juice head

    • @GoddessLadyRei
      @GoddessLadyRei 5 часов назад

      He ducked Tony for 5 years and layed and prayed to win.

  • @enesdapo4278
    @enesdapo4278 5 часов назад +6

    3 title defences inside 5 months and 21 day is INSANE

  • @Enigmatized13
    @Enigmatized13 5 часов назад +10

    Ankalaev barely wrestles anyway. He's more of a striker at this point. I think because he's Dagestani people immediately make the assumption that he's an elite wrestler/grappler, but we don't see it enough to know. He was choked out by Paul Craig, which, even if a fluke, is not something I could picture elite grapplers like Khabib or Islam getting caught with. If Ankalaev decided to trade with Alex in the stand up, there's only one winner. Lets not forget that Pereira is also improving his grappling having worked with elite guys for a few years, including having Glover as his coach.

    • @Frazer_98
      @Frazer_98 3 часа назад +1

      alex got taken down by izzy so what do you think that ankalaev cant take down alex..its too easy for ankalaev to beat alex...alex can beat ankalaev by knocking him up at standup....alex went with jan a close fight decision win and ankalaev is gonna beat alex but the ufc is not pushing him thats it they are afraid that they will lose alex as a champion thats the fact first alex has to beat ankalaev then we can talk

    • @jasper7126
      @jasper7126 3 часа назад

      Finally someone who knows the facts, everybody acts like Ankaleav is a LHW Khabib but the man is a striker.

    • @jasper7126
      @jasper7126 3 часа назад

      @@Frazer_98you’re completely delulu, if they wanted Alex to stay champ they wouldn’t even let him be that active🤡 Ankaleav isn’t a wrestler, and he said himself he wants to stand with Alex and outstrike him.

    • @Skook427
      @Skook427 Час назад

      I checked Ankalaev's background and found out these things:
      1. Ankalaev has 1 year of Greco-Roman wrestling experience (in University, so he was 18+ when he did that 1 year of Greco)
      2. Ankalaev started training Combat Sambo in University. So he was 18+ when he did combat sambo, which is not pure grappling, but rather striking + grappling
      3. He has only 31% takedown accuracy despite attempting very few amount of takedowns (I have estimated his takedown attempts to be around 10 in his 13 fights with approx. 142 minutes of octagon time; this is based on the fact that he attempts 1 takedown per 15 minutes). The % would be even lower if he didn't stat pad against Jan. Of course context matters, and it could be that Ankalaev was half heartedly attempting takedowns to create striking opportunities, so need to watch all of his fights to know the full story.

    • @Frazer_98
      @Frazer_98 Час назад

      @@jasper7126 I mean to say that ufc is protecting Alex from wrestlers they are only offering him strikers...and ankalaev will stand or grapple what he said I don't know about that so I can't talk about it we will see

  • @julianace996
    @julianace996 5 часов назад +5

    Jon Jones finished everybody by abusing peds. So if you wanna give him that top spot then we know you also did some things during your career as well.

  • @TheeliteMMA-ms4vz
    @TheeliteMMA-ms4vz 5 часов назад +7

    Nah Bisping would say Jon is pfp because he boot licks Dana.

    • @ByTexify
      @ByTexify 5 часов назад +2

      Bootlicks Dana over his friend Aspinall who is actually the nr 1 p4p right now, its despicable

    • @fgc1850
      @fgc1850 5 часов назад

      ​@@ByTexify tom is not p4p

    • @ByTexify
      @ByTexify 5 часов назад +2

      @@fgc1850 Yes he is, he would be the favorite to win against Pereira or Jones 100%. Maybe number 2 if you want to put Makhachev ahead of him

  • @craigrushworth1744
    @craigrushworth1744 6 часов назад +9

    Tom aspinall not on there ? To me tom could smash that entire top 10 p4p

    • @gregfulcher9695
      @gregfulcher9695 4 часа назад

      I agree that Tom should be top 10.

    • @gregfulcher9695
      @gregfulcher9695 4 часа назад

      At least top 10, but in my opinion top 5. With a win over jones #1 hands down.

  • @rashadaljunied
    @rashadaljunied 4 часа назад +3

    for a dude that speaks out against cheating so much, dunno how you can put JJ in any list, plus he has a loss on record

  • @kyle2206
    @kyle2206 5 часов назад +9

    Not calling him PFP is the biggest load of shit at this point and I’ve been saving this Multiple division champ. Beats so many former champs. Saved so many cards, very active, extremely dominant, fights while injured, fights while sick. Meanwhile Islam sits out til next year and fights featherweights. This man is pound for pound period

    • @Muhamad2772
      @Muhamad2772 5 часов назад +1

      if he beat ankalev i agree alex without doubt he p4p..but he beat khalil ... so relax..

    • @kyle2206
      @kyle2206 5 часов назад

      @@Muhamad2772 always the Mohammeds 😂 tell your goat lover to actually fight them and not cherry pick locations like a bum… so relax

    • @ZacJackson-y2q
      @ZacJackson-y2q 5 часов назад +3

      Big facts. I could see ankalaev getting subbed by poatan lol 🤣 these people think ank a wrestler are about to have they life ruined. I don't even think ank bears rakic...

    • @mohammedahmedgaafarelkhali7592
      @mohammedahmedgaafarelkhali7592 5 часов назад

      @@kyle2206
      Clown: "... And fights featherweight"
      Reality: only fights Volk the P4P #1 at the time, featherweight champ and arguably the GOAT. Clown featherweight

    • @keyboardwarrior6591
      @keyboardwarrior6591 3 часа назад +1

      He beat Khalil, Islam beat Dustin.. Islam is undoubtly the p4p best

  • @david17500
    @david17500 5 часов назад +3

    Almost couldn't hear bisping over Danas balls smothering his voice 😂

  • @J9227
    @J9227 6 часов назад +3

    Bisping doesn’t make any sense he goes on the say Alex isn’t above Khabib because a loss but then says Islam is doing the same as khabib and losses happen. Ends the video with Alex being 1 right now . Definition :::: shit show .

  • @cczzucchi
    @cczzucchi 6 часов назад +4

    The pfp is a ridiculous conversation. It's saying if all the fighters were the same size and weight who would win. So if mighty mouse was 250 does his strength go up or it stays the same? What about his speed, does he keep his speed? Are we adjusting their stats 😂

  • @ProtossHyrdalisk
    @ProtossHyrdalisk 6 часов назад +35

    Ankalaev got CRUSHED by Jan’s leg kicks. Who are we kidding here? Chama will finish him in 1-2 rounds.

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 6 часов назад +11

      Alex got taken down by Izzy. Who are we kidding here? Ank will drag him to the ground and ragdoll him.

    • @GS-rm7fv
      @GS-rm7fv 6 часов назад +5

      Once ank gets him down hes gonna do everything to sub him, and would probably get it done too

    • @MG-yj6lo
      @MG-yj6lo 5 часов назад +13

      @@areebsiddiqui758lol Ankalaev is not a wrestler

    • @Wizaru01
      @Wizaru01 5 часов назад +11

      ​​​​@@GS-rm7fvwho has ankalaev subbed again ? Yeah no one 😂 instead he was the one who got subbed by paul craig

    • @raj_2005_
      @raj_2005_ 5 часов назад +2

      Pereira got dropped by khalil lmao.
      Ankalaev by ground and pound TKO

  • @BonzoKilbourn
    @BonzoKilbourn 5 часов назад +2

    Alex is destroying everyone and just keeps coming back for more. No question.

  • @ademirviscovini1530
    @ademirviscovini1530 3 часа назад +2

    A FIGHT BETWEEN PEREIRA VS CIRYL GANE WOULD SHOW US WHO IS THE BEST KICKBOXER IN THE UFC !!!

  • @midasthestallion4105
    @midasthestallion4105 51 минуту назад +1

    Islam: "Brother, please. I P4P, shhh."
    Alex: 🗿🗿🗿
    Jones: "The F u mean I gotta pass a Drug Test AND fight Tom?!!"

  • @hextatik_sound
    @hextatik_sound 5 часов назад +2

    He is definately the P4P No. 1 right now.

  • @zatoichiable
    @zatoichiable 5 часов назад +2

    Alex is special and much much more ahead of everyone in fighting and mental skill...

  • @bigimportantman1544
    @bigimportantman1544 5 часов назад +2

    P4P is stupid because different styles favor different weight classes.

  • @whatsnerdypodcast3649
    @whatsnerdypodcast3649 6 часов назад +2

    Khabib has lost a round, fuck he lost round 3 to Conor. Alex is definitely higher than Khabib.

    • @Frazer_98
      @Frazer_98 3 часа назад

      what are you smoking 😂

  • @carguy29-oo5wq
    @carguy29-oo5wq 5 часов назад +1

    I think most of us can agree it's Alex, dudes the most active fighter right now, ahead of Islam, and when he performs he puts on bangers, and is a knock out artist on top of that, this dude has it all
    It's going to be sad once he takes a break, but he is long over due a good break from the octagon

  • @davincislive
    @davincislive Час назад +1

    Imo pereira’s first fight with izzy is still the greatest, 4th fight of his career going against one of the best of all time at middleweight and digging out a KO in the 5th after being down 3-1 rounds.

  • @mikeleone2699
    @mikeleone2699 4 часа назад +1

    These comments are ridiculous. Pound for pound ranking is a current theoretical argument. You are thinking more of all time or “Mt Rushmore” ranking.
    Jones and Khabib are not on any pound for pound list right now.

  • @mohammedahmedgaafarelkhali7592
    @mohammedahmedgaafarelkhali7592 6 часов назад +16

    Bisping not you too, please stop d-riding Jon Jones, we think highly of you

    • @ProtossHyrdalisk
      @ProtossHyrdalisk 6 часов назад +11

      I love bisping but he’s a company man. What Dana white says… he does as well. He knows where the bread gets buttered.

    • @TheeliteMMA-ms4vz
      @TheeliteMMA-ms4vz 5 часов назад

      @@ProtossHyrdaliskit’s sad because I don’t think Dana would even care but he just seems to love boot licking 🤷‍♂️

    • @bisping
      @bisping  5 часов назад +2

      @@ProtossHyrdaliskdon’t be silly. We are all entitled to our opinions.

    • @bradhardaker8814
      @bradhardaker8814 5 часов назад

      It's definitely Alex now but I agree if Jon Jones gets the win he will be

    • @mohammedahmedgaafarelkhali7592
      @mohammedahmedgaafarelkhali7592 5 часов назад +3

      @@bisping yeah but this not an opinion, that's you selling your soul for rubbish 🗑

  • @mateuspequeno9988
    @mateuspequeno9988 5 часов назад +1

    Poatan proved to be the "nail" before when he fought Adesanya 1st fight, he lost the first rounds and cameback to win in the later rounds, as Adesanya once said "he's a comeback kid" not only he has nuclear power, fight IQ, physiognomy and great hearth. He's just an amazing fighter in general.
    My 2 cents about P4P discussion, i guess a win over Kalil n8 someone with a not so great cartel shouldn't make him switch places with Islam for now, it just does not make a lot of sense, we need to see Islam vs Arman and Poatan vs Ankalaev to have a solidified argument on which is the best.

  • @Luke_Bega
    @Luke_Bega 6 часов назад +10

    Is mighty mouse at heavy weight as fast as he is at fly/bantam weight? P4P talk definitely has issues

    • @cczzucchi
      @cczzucchi 6 часов назад +2

      Exactly, if the speed stays the same does his strength also stay? Or are we just adjusting stats?

    • @Filthypile
      @Filthypile 6 часов назад

      You're completely missing the point

    • @ZacJackson-y2q
      @ZacJackson-y2q 5 часов назад

      ​@@cczzucchiIt's all about skills.

    • @cczzucchi
      @cczzucchi 5 часов назад

      @@ZacJackson-y2q so skills and stats stay the same? Speed and strength are what makes the.

    • @ZacJackson-y2q
      @ZacJackson-y2q 5 часов назад

      @@cczzucchi so it's just make Believe, but it's like this. If Jones went down to bantamweight u just translate his skills for that division, and you imagine how fast and strong he would be for that division based on how he was at his natural division and weight.

  • @Triple_A27
    @Triple_A27 6 часов назад +2

    Pirera did dominate the whole game.

  • @icyhot8873
    @icyhot8873 35 минут назад +1

    I do agree Jones would be the 1# if he was more active but he's not that much of a finisher lately, he has 7 decisions in his last 10 fights (since 2013), Jones brought to Decision OSP who just got finished in R1 by Span... he's the GOAT and a braniac but not that much of a killer 🤷‍♂

  • @mid-eighties
    @mid-eighties 3 часа назад +1

    Alex Pereira is the PVP 1#, don't give me any crap about khabib never lost a round BS, he got his ass whooped by Tibau, also he runaway and retired to not lose his "perfect record" BS a lot, all morrons out there fans rly belive he is a goat bc all them is a F casual.

  • @kigenmusa6013
    @kigenmusa6013 5 часов назад +4

    If you take a close look at most Jon Jones ' opponents, you will find out most of them were natural Middleweihgts fighting at LHW. The likes of Chael Sonnen who primarily fought at middleweight before challenging Jones at light heavyweight at UFC 159, Vitor Belfort who also had a significant career at middleweight before moving up to fight Jones at UFC 152 and Lyoto Machida who had fought at middleweight earlier in his career before moving up to light heavyweight, where he faced Jones at UFC 140. Alex on the other hand has been fighting Real LHWs, the likes of Jan Blachowicz who has a big stocky head, Jiri Prochazca, Jamal Hill, Khalil Rountree. That's why I think Alex Poatan is the real LHW goat.

    • @LWT80
      @LWT80 4 часа назад

      You are so clueless it hurts.

  • @bfunderb5899
    @bfunderb5899 4 часа назад +1

    Alex did beat Jan in a close fight so he’s been tested against a wrestler. It wasn’t a great win but he did pull it out.

  • @Deepimpactocean
    @Deepimpactocean 5 часов назад +1

    Alex is number one…. You have to consider two weight classes in such a short period of time.

    • @All0utj3rk
      @All0utj3rk 3 часа назад

      He didn’t do what u claim, he was placed and ppl are eating it up, he just got whooped by rank 8, could lose 2 any fighter

  • @jonathanpluto4362
    @jonathanpluto4362 2 часа назад +1

    Dricus belongs on that list more than Jones does

  • @kianmclaren6058
    @kianmclaren6058 5 часов назад +1

    Chama!... that's what I'm talking about, you start to realize now. If wrestling can win fights so much does striking but warriors is more relate in striking.

  • @MrDynamart
    @MrDynamart Час назад

    The year is 2052. Jon Jones has been heavyweight champion for over 29 years. He has 4 title defenses. Despite only having 4 matches in 29 years, Dana White declares that he’s still active. He’s just had some injuries and Dana is constantly arguing about how poorly The new artificially created (Al) pound for pound list is. He doesn’t understand how Jones isn’t ranked number 1.
    Tom Aspinall retired in the year 2050 having been the interim champion for 26 years where he defended his title 71 times. But he never got his unification match with Jones.
    Jones always said that Tom was a random nobody and he chose to face legends instead. Jones defended his title against Stipe, 55 year old Anderson Silva, 70 year old Bas Rutten and finally 72 year old Fedor to prove he’s greatest heavyweight of all time. Jones hasn’t had a title defense in 5 years but Dana claims he’s working on something big. Royce Gracie is heavily rumored.
    After Aspinall’s retirement with 71 interim title defenses, Dana White was asked about Aspinall going into the hall of fame.
    Dana said “we don’t owe this kid anything, least of all the hall of fame: the hall of fame is for undisputed champions, and that’s Jones. Maybe if we ever make an ”interim hall of fame”, Tom can join”.

  • @samidavis3146
    @samidavis3146 Час назад

    Even if fans agree that Alex isn't as well rounded as Islam or Jones, the fact that he is so freaking active at this late stage in his fighting career is crazy. Yes, without a doubt Alex is P4P#1 at the moment, he truly earn it.

  • @razor26047
    @razor26047 5 часов назад +1

    I don't think Ankalaev will be as much of a challenge as Khalil was. He isn't a pure striker but hes close, in my opinion a fight between Alex and Magomed is going to look a lot like the Jan fight did.

    • @razor26047
      @razor26047 5 часов назад

      The real discussion about p4p should be between Alex and Ilia.

  • @matthewsmith6352
    @matthewsmith6352 5 часов назад +1

    If I hear "hammer and the nail" one more time...

  • @PJM273
    @PJM273 5 часов назад +1

    I'm Dana White and I approve this message...

  • @charlescharlemagne4907
    @charlescharlemagne4907 2 часа назад

    Bisping thinks that if Jones beats 43 year old Stipe who has been out for four years, he's P4P#1. I think Bisping will echo literally anything Dana says.

  • @kevlally
    @kevlally 3 часа назад

    Everyone needs to relax. Khabib's father died and his mother pleadid for him to retire, as he did. The fight game is a job, not peoples life. It is quite simple to understand. It is what it is. Pereira is undoubtedly without a shadow of a doubt the best fighter in UFC to pick up a pair of gloves. These clowns who think Jones would even tie his shoes are dreaming. Jones is hiding... Pereira is on a completely other stratosphere of skill and excellence.

  • @gamergame5318
    @gamergame5318 Час назад

    He had 3 fights in 7 month . That’s crazy . 4 fights in 12 month would be more crazy . U can’t lie he’s the one everyone want to knock out u can’t just submit him and say I beat Alex

  • @773420611
    @773420611 47 минут назад

    I think there should be a clear difference between P4P and GOAT.
    JJ is one of the GOATS (if you ask the Mount Rushmore question)
    Alex is currently P4P. JJ shouldn't be P4P tbh

  • @kawhileonard9082
    @kawhileonard9082 5 часов назад

    Jones ducking Aspinal and cherry picking Miocic is the weakest move ever in UFC HW history.

  • @AlmightyTruth-
    @AlmightyTruth- 3 часа назад

    People will argue that you have the best the “most active” and winning to be declared as p4p. They say Jon can’t possibly be p4p because he’s not active enough…. But then Alex is now more active then Islam and now they change they’re argument and argue against poatan. It’s a weird thing with these people.

  • @michaelmadsen-yq5kw
    @michaelmadsen-yq5kw 53 минуты назад

    I think you need to take into account Pereira's ground game. Does he need to fight a pure grappler? The man is amazing right now and continues to get better. Standing, nobody comes close to him.

  • @justinwright7469
    @justinwright7469 20 минут назад

    I don’t like Jones, but I can’t deny how great of an mma fighter he is. But with how inactive he has been, I don’t think he deserves to be in the conversation personally

  • @Kelts.mma9
    @Kelts.mma9 3 часа назад

    Jon Jones should be number 1 hes so brave faceing an old man that hasnt fought in 3 years. Hes facing the best guy in the division and hes never taken steroids.

  • @mdc123-v2v
    @mdc123-v2v 24 минуты назад

    Let him beat Ankalaev. Then we can talk. He ran from 185 after getting knocked unconscious. He's only fought strikers. He's great, but he isn't P4P.

  • @noehenney34
    @noehenney34 Час назад

    Bro tbh Alex’s record clears Jon jones record in my book bro has achieved a lot with in the span of his ufc career crazy

  • @EricRomero1021
    @EricRomero1021 3 часа назад +1

    Conor did win a round against khabib

  • @TheLastCrumb.
    @TheLastCrumb. 4 часа назад

    Pound for Pound is completely ridiculous and means nothing at all. Its nothing more than a performance ranking so they should call it that.

  • @jacobiwilson3887
    @jacobiwilson3887 Час назад

    Should be Poatan even though we have only seen him strike, he literally beats everyone with a KO who is on the list, ESPECIALLY Islam!

  • @tehlurfry679
    @tehlurfry679 3 часа назад

    Pereira at HW is such an exciting prospect. If he beats Ankolaev, i think its a great move. No weight cut, gets to eat what he wants, more strength and conditioning, it would be fun to watch

  • @kurtmifsud5515
    @kurtmifsud5515 2 часа назад

    Why do people keep labelling Ankalaev as a wrestler when not even he does that to himself? Maybe we should all take a look at his TD stats

  • @Rolando175254
    @Rolando175254 4 часа назад

    He is 100% right about Jon jones. Period. End of discussion.

  • @mindmeld8187
    @mindmeld8187 2 часа назад

    Alex Pereira is next level active, dominating. No khabib, Jones, will match that profile.
    ❤ Alex

  • @MG-yj6lo
    @MG-yj6lo 5 часов назад +1

    He aint GOAT, not yet. But p4p- hell yeah. Active, fought champs/ex champs, fought on short notice, 90% of wins are KOs and TKOs
    You're making it seem like Ankalaev is that good. Jan is better than him lol

  • @jrcell5832
    @jrcell5832 Час назад

    Khabib and Jon would never take a fight on short notice let alone 2 in a 5 month span.

  • @regansternik0004
    @regansternik0004 3 часа назад

    Pereira has had the same number of title fights in less than 11 months as Khabib had in two and a half years.

  • @abyanayubwahyudi6203
    @abyanayubwahyudi6203 4 часа назад +3

    Islam still number #1 pound for pound. Beat #1 #2 #3 all ufc champion. 14 win streak. Pereira good too but i think he's still number 2

  • @surajkamble3538
    @surajkamble3538 2 часа назад

    Legendary Alex poatan Pereira achieved so much both in Glory kickboxing and now in UFC within short period of time that lots of fighters can only dream About that type of achievements man

  • @petertapola8097
    @petertapola8097 4 часа назад

    JJ has never fought anyone bigger or younger than him. He simply can't be the P4P #1.

  • @aaronphipps3035
    @aaronphipps3035 3 часа назад

    Pereira would absolutely sleep anyone from that glamour division lol

  • @amajor4901
    @amajor4901 5 часов назад +1

    Some people will go nuts if Rakic TKO Ankalaev

    • @user-ph2cl7fi8l
      @user-ph2cl7fi8l 4 часа назад

      I will. Just because Ank fans are so annoying, acting like Ank is an all time great when all he does is beat cans.

    • @arman_llc624
      @arman_llc624 Час назад

      Rakic stylistically is actually a nightmare match up for Ank. He’s massive for LHW, has good grappling and has some of the most powerful leg kicks in the division.

  • @danielmansfield8739
    @danielmansfield8739 3 часа назад

    I don't know Bisping but it aint you. Pereira is my fav fighter - "aww friends" - but Jones and Aspinall beat him in mma all day long.

  • @michalisrallis4524
    @michalisrallis4524 32 минуты назад

    He will beat ankalaev and you guys u will say that ankaleav is not a proper wrestlers. Coping is real ,has surpassed so many fighters in a couple months legacy wise.

  • @fusion360music6
    @fusion360music6 2 часа назад

    You can see mike is struggling to accept alex is the king . He always picks against him . He barely gave him the nod to win over khalilililili .

  • @drickssteam
    @drickssteam 42 минуты назад

    For sure Alex is the real top 1 p4p and the face o UFC now. He´ll knock out Ankalaev easily, his wresling is enough to stop some takedowns and he´ll have enough time to do the job standing on the first or second round, mark my words.

  • @GoddessLadyRei
    @GoddessLadyRei 5 часов назад

    jon jones the cheating steroid king should never be mentioned in p4p and g.o.a.t. Everyone talks crap about boxing, but what happens in boxing if you are caught cheating? If you win and get caught cheating. The fight is a no contest.

  • @basbastiaans5396
    @basbastiaans5396 Час назад

    Wait what? So if Dana decides to dig up someone like Andy Hug and let Jon fight him, would that make a difference? With all due respect for Stipe, and I would love to be wrong, fighting a seasoned legend that comes out of retirement shouldn’t make a difference in my honest, uneducated and unsolicited opinion. If he’d fight Tom and manage to win? Different story! Furthermore, going up or down a weight class shouldn’t the most important argument either. Someone the size of Overeem, not that he’s in the discussion, can only fight in one weight class. The role of the UFC, and fanboy Dana White in particular, plays a vital role in this as well. As long as Tom Aspinall is denied a fight with Jon Jones he won’t stand a chance to prove his worth in the P4P comparison. And if Jones ‘retires without retiring’ after the Stipe fight, how long do you think it will take until Dana strips him of his title? Having said all that, what’s the P4P comparison really worth? It’s very subjective to say the very least….

  • @casino9240
    @casino9240 3 часа назад

    I can’t say he’s P4P. I’d bet my life savings, that if Taiwanchai was 205lbs, he’d likely murder Alex (yes, im aware that saenchai doesn’t fight in the UFC) That said, I also bet, if Islam was 205 as well as them, he’d destroy Tai. Therefore, even though I don’t believe Jon Jones is what he once was, in fact he kinda looked sloppy af on the feet against Gane….as long as Jon doesn’t lose, and is still active, he’s the P4P. You can’t argue it successfully.

  • @metalheadblues
    @metalheadblues 34 минуты назад

    Izzy should have kept his mouth shut , he unleashed Pandora's box talking about poatan

  • @xikimunki735
    @xikimunki735 4 часа назад

    Why is makhachev even in the list???? He has only defended his belt a couple times and hasnt done anything outsids his weight apart from nearly losing to volk a whole weight class lower...... Islam shouldnt even be considered. Pereira and jones and possibly holloway if he beats topuria are the obvious choices here.

  • @jasper7126
    @jasper7126 3 часа назад

    This pound for pound talk is complete nonsense, I just don’t get it. Appreciate every champ in their own devision. And Ankaleav is NOT a wrestler but a striker, wake up everybody, he’s not bringing anything new.

  • @Newfoundadventures-2024
    @Newfoundadventures-2024 17 минут назад

    Alex is now the Goat, no matter what happens from here on out

  • @jaredchenklov1532
    @jaredchenklov1532 3 часа назад

    Idk why but I feel like Jon Jones is the true p4p fighter in the world.

  • @JohnJ-p7o
    @JohnJ-p7o 2 часа назад

    As much I like Alex Pereira he doesn't have the UFC record to be the UFC pound for pound. Far from it. Yes he's got a huge accomplishment but it's not even close to Islam who only lost once like 8 years ago. Since then he's beaten every guy worth beating in the most dominating division.

  • @WilliamMachado-mh9vt
    @WilliamMachado-mh9vt Час назад

    Pereira fight every 3 months, Islam every 6 months John jones every 2 years 😂

  • @david17500
    @david17500 5 часов назад

    How is Jon Jones not the pound-for-pound now, but if he beats a 40 plus year old has been great, he is? Such a bad president if you don't have to fight the current best fighters you can just fight old 40 year olds, why not 50 year olds? Jon Jones needs to call out Tim Sylvia for the current pound for pound number one.
    People want to rightfully talk crap about Jon Jones decision, but then reward him? That just sets the president that if you want to be the best, avoid the best fighters in the world and fight has beens instead

    • @fgc1850
      @fgc1850 5 часов назад

      Jon fought the number 1 contender 16 times already, cry about it, stipe is for legacy, title wins matter

  • @DailyDoseOfMzansi
    @DailyDoseOfMzansi Час назад

    how is illia above Dricus whilst DDP has already have tittle defences

  • @CHANNELS647
    @CHANNELS647 Час назад

    Need to be fighting in multiple weight classes these days to be a p4p #1. Islam and khabib arent in the mix for this reason. Jones hasnt fought amyone of merit in heavy weight division. Alex is clear current p4p.

  • @JD59555
    @JD59555 40 минут назад

    I wish we could see Jon fight Alex but that's never happening

  • @ClassicalPan
    @ClassicalPan 3 часа назад

    If Pereira went heavyweight, I don't think he would be a match for Aspinall's strength if/when it goes to the ground. If that is true, then is he really #4#?

  • @LazPH
    @LazPH 2 часа назад

    Dana White wont like it, and will make you kicked out of the ufc in the commentary

  • @MarcHolland-h3z
    @MarcHolland-h3z 4 часа назад

    John Jones got caught cheating so he should not be in the discussion.

  • @Francis-ot7pm
    @Francis-ot7pm 3 часа назад

    Alex Pereira beat Jan Blachowicz. It was not pretty but hard - fought. He accomplished what Israel Adesanya could not. Ankalaev drew against Jan. Yes, MMA Mathematics but King Chael says mma math works. Jon Jones is the GOAT, so Alex Pereira and Jon Jones need to fight at heavyweight... That's it. The Count giving us the cold facts.

  • @AlexFuller-tm7em
    @AlexFuller-tm7em 5 часов назад

    Khabib lost a round against Conor and the judges gave justin gaethji a round against him

  • @KMMIGA74
    @KMMIGA74 3 часа назад

    P4P is BS ....because just like you cannot compare a sedan with a sports car or a SUV similarly how can compare fighters across different weight categories.

  • @scrummpybear
    @scrummpybear 5 часов назад

    You can have an argument over who is the P4P, but you can never include jon jones. Maybe for greatest LHW ever but not P4P, that should be potan or aspinall.

  • @paulhenri2000
    @paulhenri2000 3 часа назад

    When Jon would beat stipe
    Tf stipe is forty years of age
    Even older and coming from a bad bad beating from Ngannou
    Tom would finish both on same night in the first round probably
    Even Alex would have a good chance against both
    Look at Jones against Smith, Gustafsson 1,Reyes loss,Santos
    Tom and even Alex could knockout Jon cold

  • @marcgrmn
    @marcgrmn 34 минуты назад

    khabib only fought strikers, beating Mcgregor, poirier and geathje is not that impressive when oliveira did the same (replace mcgregor with chandler)