University Challenge - Classical Music Compilation No. 2
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- Опубликовано: 26 дек 2018
- A compilation of question relating to classical music from the BBC program University Challenge's 45th and 46th season.
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Someone should make a count of what percentage of classical music starters have Beethoven as an answer. It's getting ridiculous
On a percentage basis maybe Haydn should be up there.
Paxo is always so pedantic about French pronunciation yet goes WTF with QuicksOat & DonJewin! 🤶
Thanks for the compilation. 🙏
Joo-ann is quite common amongst academics, I think its because of Byron's poem? I have also noticed Quicks oat is often used by academics, for instance my undergrad English lecturer pronounced the title of "The Female Quixote" by Charlotte Lennox as "The Female QuicksOtt". I can't explain this though. I'm not sure if all these clever people are just getting it wrong, or if perhaps they are trying to emulate how it would have been pronounced by we unknowing English several hundred years ago?
@@JT29501 So how do you pronounce Quixotic? Kishotic?
Just to make my point clear. I think it is pretentious to pronounce names as they may be pronounced by native speakers.
@@richardhartley5211 Good question! Probably like this: "Quicks-Ottic", again I don't know if this is correct or not but it is what I've heard from academic types.
@@JT29501 man, academics sound really cool. I wish I was an academic
11:40 Don Quick-zoat and Don Jewan? WTF?
Despite the Spanish pronunciations, the words were written as part of English literature at a time when Spanish pronunciation was relatively unknown in England. In Lord Byron's version of Don Juan, Juan is set to rhyme with ruin, so in this context Jeremy is correct.
@@Maxiblob Thanks! I had no idea.
How were they so unaware of Spanish, though?
@@TheloniousCube It was the 19th century, so I guess only the upper classes had access to the resources to learn foreign languages, and French and German were much more desirable to know. I do agree that this isn't particularly complex language to learn though! I am a stickler for pronunciation so was horrified when I was first told this, but I guess that's just how it is.
Who cares how the Spaniards pronounce it? Are we supposed to talk of Mathrith? Anyway, Hwan doesn't rhyme with anything.
@@richardhartley5211 Swan
8:42 "sounds Beethoveny" what??
Okay, guessing Strauss instead of Humperdinck is excusable given the similar time frame. But Strauss does not IN THE SLIGHTEST sound like Beethoven. At the very least say Wagner - unlike Beethoven, he was famous for him s operas at least.
Did he say rickard Strauss?
4:24 that guy looks exactly like shostakovich
They changed their clothes during the show.
Y do they always use operas?????? How abt instrumental music?????
I hope that it will always tickle me how unmusically they have managed to treat this particular topic
A nice set of Joseph Joachim questions, I'd have gotten all of them. Joachim's own 2nd violin concerto isn't bad, just a bit too long in the beginning and so difficult that about 3 people in the world attempt play it.
Strauss is rolling over in his grave, my goodness
......a German composer bias here.....thanks for the video....
12:43 which part of the Beethoven Concerto was that, I haven't listen to it in a long time and wanted to know where it is from.
Beethoven Violin Concerto 3rd Movement, about 3 minutes in (depends on recording)
I almost threw away my phone when he guessed Bruckner for the horn trio
Same 😂
And also when he said S I B E L I U S at 4:29🤣
Why?
@@therunawaykid6523 Bruckner is not exactly famous for his small scale chamber music lol, or really any chamber music at all. All he did were huge super long symphonies and masses.
Edit: It also didn't really sound like Bruckner honestly.
@@lnhart7157 oh ok, I’m not really into classical music
I thought in Salzburg ... Mozart, but I heard Sulzberg, I swear ...
damn them for using the perlman recordings
Some of this is obscure as it gets. Never heard of this Helsinki composer at 4:31
He died as recently as 2016 and his music is really dissonant so not often used in popular media. Interesting studies in polytonality/atonality though
He has some amazing works. My personal favorites are Cantus Arcticus, his Piano Concerto No.1, and his string quartet number 1 and 2
I actually came across Rautavaara several times during my musicology studies. Finland is very proud of him and he has composed in every conceivable style from dodecaphony and serialism over experimental stuff to some very conservative works. I recommend the Vigilia - certainly one of his least known works, and it takes a second listen to grow on you, but it likely will.
"German-born". No need to think, it's Haendel :p
7:53
Watching them guessing the violin concertos as a violinist was PAINFUL - Haydn over Bruch??
a bunch of music probably less than 1% of the worlds population has heard these days.
So sad for the other 99%
11:39 Don Kwixote? Don Jew-in? I've noticed that it's always the Brits who don't even bother with correct pronunciation. If I didn't already know the answer, the host would've given me no help.
It was hilarious though
ThaSchwab Lots of European language names and words have been anglicised and therefore become almost universal; I agree, sometimes it would be better to make the effort to pronounce these words correctly and it is both lazy and disrespectful not to do so.
If you think the Brits are bad, some of the American mis-pronunciations are grotesque and far worse, especially as they routinely substitute ‘d’ for ‘t’ creating their own unique composers: Baydoven, Scarladdi (from Idaly apparently); sometimes, the mispronunciation makes the name unintelligible - ‘Guuurd’ (= Goethe!).
@@elaineblackhurst1509 Softening the double-T's in Beethoven and Scarlatti is not as bad as straight-up pronouncing names wrong like this host did.
It is weird and quite commonplace, even amongst academics. I've had it explained to me before that "Joo-ann" is due to Byron's poem. But I don't really understand - Byron couldn't/didn't pronounce it properly in his poem, and now we all copy him? I did an English degree a few years ago and Charlotte Lennox's "The Female Quixote" was introduced to me as "The Female QuicksOtt". Again, I can't explain it, although that may have been the pronunciation Lennox herself used, I'm not sure that means we should perpetuate the mistake.
If it is the way the Brits pronounce it, when speaking English, then it is by definition correct.
I got most of these right
Course you did.......
How come Jeremy Paxman can’t even pronounce Don Quixote and Don Juan properly?! That is lamentable! I expect Bamber Gascoigne would have pronounced those names correctly.
Philistimes!!
Not to be rude or anything but these people know nothing about classical music
There are only a few music questions per episode so it's hardly their top priority
Well and truly click-baited by University Challenge...
And it's good-bye to classical music, as a culture, if these teams are any indication of how education has been directed over the last few decades. Even when the answers are correct, they are mere guesses.
If these were American kids, I guarantee you they wouldn't even know the names to formulate a guess😂It'd be Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven at random.
Woah they're bad at this