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I enjoyed watching this repair Mick even though we don't see those type of mowers over here across the pond. Not only are you a good mechanic you are a very funny guy, you had me in stitches a few times.
Hayter are a disgrace for passing these on to loyal customers who trust in their name and reputation in the lawnmower industry as being premium manufacturers of great standing. If they don’t get the finger out then they are going to ruin decades of hard earned reputation and status. Great video Big Fella.👍
When I started fixing mowers, I fell in love with the side shaft engine Hayter models. The 496 series wasn't as good, but it is better than the new 479 series, which are easier to work on because they constantly need working on as it seems the new philosophy is that if its easy to fit the parts, they can wear out quicker and we gets parts sales from it. No consideration for the person who has to spend £200+ every few years (if worked hard as professional stuff is supposed to) to get it fixed, and the downtime while it's being repaired. Customers wish they had kept their 496 series mower and got it repaired instead of getting a new 479 model for £1600+.
Great instructions Mick. Even a spannerphobe like me feels its doable. But the price of the parts.. £240 around here, makes me think Hayter just wants you to buy a new machine..
Good job again there Mick, although those parts have clearly been poorly designed by Hayter. I had a mini nightmare doing my Hayter's diaphram and carb service this afternoon. I used a cheap copy diaphram and it just would not sit right and kept leaking fuel despite all surfaces being clean and following the correct tightening sequence. Had to use two gaskets in the end to seat the carb. The old primer bulb put up a hell of a fight coming out too but after two dozen swear words I got it out and a new one in. Hopefully that should last two seasons now as I don't use it much. Cheers matey
Hi Mick. When you described this mower to me, you didn't do it justice on how bad it was. After watching this video, to wear out that metal chain cover means it has done some serious miles, and I suspect that the plastic axle bearings have worn so much that also caused the excess play in the rollers, on top of the end caps moving in as worn badly. I use motor bike chain lube on chains as it's good for miles on my bikes. Who ever worked on that previously, needed videos like ours to know how to repair it correctly. Plastic wears out faster, so it means parts sales 🤫 And thanks for the shout out 😁
Good to see you wearing those goggles when grinding, we only get one pair of " mince pies ", i have a hayter 48 pro that i bought new in 2003, has been totally abused over the years and apart front some adjutsment to the drive cable and maybe one oil change, has never let me down in 21 years, good old kit compared to the new crap we get these days
Rookie Error!! Damn dude spray the screws with releasing spray and go and get in the Hottub with the Mrs while the spray does its thing!! I troll of course, great job as always
At least its easier than trying to remove the plastic chute guard on the previous generation Hayter Harrier. Been repairing one and the one bolt by the height adjuster is impossible to get anything to. With this rear roller repair Hayter do state that you need to apply marine grade grease to the components when re-assembling as it slows the corrosion that cause a lot of those failures to occur.
I wonder why they haven't upgraded the roller to a thicker steel for the replacement parts? Seems like a good aftermarket upgrade would be a steel sleeve slid over the rollers as a sacrificial "tire" for the roller. If fact having said tire... maybe some wide rubber bands stretched atound the roller would be a good idea!
They've changed the design since the 560 series and made it worse! 😮 I'd be tempted to sling those plastic ends in the bin and make my own with roller bearings.
Thanks for the great video my 48 pro wasn't driving proper so I have used this video to check the roller indeed it did need replacing and have replaced but on inspection it seams this was not the only problem what is is the chain on the top drive sprocket is binding against the mount so much so it's started to wear a groove in the mount behind the top drive cog any ideas thanks
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Keys and Cams Mick. Did you pack the cams with water resistant grease? Also you can buy a bush kit which come with those little plates and new screws. Part number 134-1729
Yes mate ... Problems is water and dirt can still get in...but this needs to be done regularly to keep the maintenance up right.... Ta for the part number.. I didn't do bad for my first time..
@@themowerman Cool should be ok for a few weeks then. lol.. It's a crap system isn't it, I've done loads of them as a main dealer. They have bolt on roller sprockets now, and a update roller and shaft kit is available. You should see the cams sealed from dirt in the near future. 41 - 48 both have same bushes and cams only the 56 has four cams. 48 Pro's eat gearbox's like no tomorrow. Great.
Jeeez that is poor! I thought my Kubota power drive was a poor design! How much are these new?! Thousands I’m gonna guess… Smh 🤦♂️ Ps: Well done mick! You done good mate! 🫡
Need to make sure you pack the pins with waterproof grease. The bushes are plastic to stop wear on the metal shaft and are cheap and quick to replace. That looks like a machine that’s been abused and not cared for 😂 the chain has never seen grease by the look of it 😂. It’s actually a good design and has been upgraded with chain tensioner and bearing end caps to seal the grease in since that model . As an operator you have to care for your machines 👍🏻
I don't have a problem with the mower it's the roller itself.. it's too soft and gets down to the welds and that's fault.. ask a question how many rollers needed replacement on the old gray pros.. having a plastic end cap is just poor.. hey... At least we now have a video on how to repair it outside of warranty..
Depends on the models. Currently finding quite a few of the 1990's Harrier 56 models are becoming a struggle to obtain parts for now like the cable assembly (has throttle, drive and engine brake cable on them). Engine parts on these mowers are also becoming difficult to obtain as Briggs and Stratton stopped production of this engine ages ago and don't supply important internal parts for the side shaft engines
Hey Mick. I too have this Hayter 48 pro with drive problems. Tried the V belt did not solve the problem . Mower has only been used domestically so no real wear. Was great when new 4 years back. Then one day it went okay for about 5 minutes and then almost completely lost the drive, I thought that this video was my solution but on stripping the rear roller everything seems to be just fine, No wear at all. If I let it cool for about half an hour the drive returns but again for just about 3 runs of the length of the lawn. Any ideas anyone? Plus I found that this mower does not have those two batman end plates covering the plastic bush. This is my second and last Hayter. Have given up on it and got me a Honda 536.
Mick , is it just me buddy or are those engine garbage , I have had 3 to look at today and all 3 had the same internal damage , glad I only paid £20 for all 3
unfortanatley briggs stop making the side drive due to countax in the states had the same model and stop making it in thus of that briggs said it werent worth making for one manufacterer hayter so hayter had to come up with another way of driving the mower a big fail
@@themowerman same here but when you run out of hours in the day fixing and bastardising them to work right you have to find an alternative that dont break as much
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Nice work mate, rolling along 😎
"With my reputation" Mick, you sound like the Duke of Wybourne off "The Fast Show"! Very funny show
Lol thanks
I enjoyed watching this repair Mick even though we don't see those type of mowers over here across the pond. Not only are you a good mechanic you are a very funny guy, you had me in stitches a few times.
Lol I try to keep it light hearted 😂
Hayter are a disgrace for passing these on to loyal customers who trust in their name and reputation in the lawnmower industry as being premium manufacturers of great standing. If they don’t get the finger out then they are going to ruin decades of hard earned reputation and status. Great video Big Fella.👍
Thanks mate .. it was my first time doing this and I thought I did ok... Always learning..
When I started fixing mowers, I fell in love with the side shaft engine Hayter models.
The 496 series wasn't as good, but it is better than the new 479 series, which are easier to work on because they constantly need working on as it seems the new philosophy is that if its easy to fit the parts, they can wear out quicker and we gets parts sales from it.
No consideration for the person who has to spend £200+ every few years (if worked hard as professional stuff is supposed to) to get it fixed, and the downtime while it's being repaired.
Customers wish they had kept their 496 series mower and got it repaired instead of getting a new 479 model for £1600+.
Another happy customer great job Mick but if it had been me no contest dump the mower and jump in the hot tub lol 👍👍👍👍
Lol I was in the tub like a tramp on chips mate
Done one a couple of months ago got it for free I was pulling my hair out sorted now tho .good video mick
Great instructions Mick.
Even a spannerphobe like me feels its doable.
But the price of the parts.. £240 around here, makes me think Hayter just wants you to buy a new machine..
@@paulrichards2638 well it should last around 2 years pro use.. and 6 years if it's just yours.. it's keeping it off the concrete is the key
Good video Mick, the roller type mowers are not very common in north America, I have never seen any for sale, but a good idea none the less,
To be fair they are great but could have been made better
THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO
Happened to my mate's Hayter 56 Pro which he's had just over a year.
Yeah it's common
Great video. Very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Good job again there Mick, although those parts have clearly been poorly designed by Hayter.
I had a mini nightmare doing my Hayter's diaphram and carb service this afternoon. I used a cheap copy diaphram and it just would not sit right and kept leaking fuel despite all surfaces being clean and following the correct tightening sequence. Had to use two gaskets in the end to seat the carb. The old primer bulb put up a hell of a fight coming out too but after two dozen swear words I got it out and a new one in. Hopefully that should last two seasons now as I don't use it much.
Cheers matey
Yeah a genuine gasket set it's better.. the carbs bend so maybe time for a new genuine carb mate
Hi Mick.
When you described this mower to me, you didn't do it justice on how bad it was.
After watching this video, to wear out that metal chain cover means it has done some serious miles, and I suspect that the plastic axle bearings have worn so much that also caused the excess play in the rollers, on top of the end caps moving in as worn badly.
I use motor bike chain lube on chains as it's good for miles on my bikes.
Who ever worked on that previously, needed videos like ours to know how to repair it correctly.
Plastic wears out faster, so it means parts sales 🤫
And thanks for the shout out 😁
No worries mate ... Thanks for leading the way for me
@@themowerman Just passing on the knowledge we all do on YT. 😁
Hayter actually recommend a marine grade grease for these rear rollers when your rebuild them.
@@bentullett6068 is that so it's more resistant to water ingression?
@@DugatDizzyLizzys yes
Good to see you wearing those goggles when grinding, we only get one pair of " mince pies ", i have a hayter 48 pro that i bought new in 2003, has been totally abused over the years and apart front some adjutsment to the drive cable and maybe one oil change, has never let me down in 21 years, good old kit compared to the new crap we get these days
Yeah I hear ya mate ...
What a job.
Yeah lol it was lovely
Rookie Error!!
Damn dude spray the screws with releasing spray and go and get in the Hottub with the Mrs while the spray does its thing!!
I troll of course, great job as always
Yeah I know.... Hot tub first.... Mowers later
At least its easier than trying to remove the plastic chute guard on the previous generation Hayter Harrier. Been repairing one and the one bolt by the height adjuster is impossible to get anything to.
With this rear roller repair Hayter do state that you need to apply marine grade grease to the components when re-assembling as it slows the corrosion that cause a lot of those failures to occur.
I hear ya mate
Nice work Mick
Ta mate
Great fix Mick, poor system for a big machine like that 👍
Tell me about it
Nice video.
Thanks!
I wonder why they haven't upgraded the roller to a thicker steel for the replacement parts? Seems like a good aftermarket upgrade would be a steel sleeve slid over the rollers as a sacrificial "tire" for the roller. If fact having said tire... maybe some wide rubber bands stretched atound the roller would be a good idea!
Great fix mate
Thanks cupcake..
They've changed the design since the 560 series and made it worse! 😮 I'd be tempted to sling those plastic ends in the bin and make my own with roller bearings.
Yeah.... Makes you think why they haven't!!!
Thanks for the great video my 48 pro wasn't driving proper so I have used this video to check the roller indeed it did need replacing and have replaced but on inspection it seams this was not the only problem what is is the chain on the top drive sprocket is binding against the mount so much so it's started to wear a groove in the mount behind the top drive cog any ideas thanks
It will be a bushing need replacing mate
@@themowerman thanks
Mick I can't believe I have to tell you this ... go to the hot tub geeeeeez 🤷 Hey that NGK hat that's neon ain't it 😆
I know... (.)(.) First mowers later.. ohhh the cap is great
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love your videos , but your grass really does need cutting ! lol
I was growing it for a review in the next video
Keys and Cams Mick. Did you pack the cams with water resistant grease? Also you can buy a bush kit which come with those little plates and new screws. Part number 134-1729
Yes mate ... Problems is water and dirt can still get in...but this needs to be done regularly to keep the maintenance up right.... Ta for the part number.. I didn't do bad for my first time..
@@themowerman Cool should be ok for a few weeks then. lol.. It's a crap system isn't it, I've done loads of them as a main dealer. They have bolt on roller sprockets now, and a update roller and shaft kit is available. You should see the cams sealed from dirt in the near future. 41 - 48 both have same bushes and cams only the 56 has four cams. 48 Pro's eat gearbox's like no tomorrow. Great.
Jeeez that is poor! I thought my Kubota power drive was a poor design! How much are these new?! Thousands I’m gonna guess… Smh 🤦♂️
Ps: Well done mick! You done good mate! 🫡
About £1400.. two year warranty... But you will need it lol... Ta mate for the first time doing it I think I did ok..
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Need to make sure you pack the pins with waterproof grease. The bushes are plastic to stop wear on the metal shaft and are cheap and quick to replace. That looks like a machine that’s been abused and not cared for 😂 the chain has never seen grease by the look of it 😂. It’s actually a good design and has been upgraded with chain tensioner and bearing end caps to seal the grease in since that model . As an operator you have to care for your machines 👍🏻
I don't have a problem with the mower it's the roller itself.. it's too soft and gets down to the welds and that's fault.. ask a question how many rollers needed replacement on the old gray pros.. having a plastic end cap is just poor.. hey... At least we now have a video on how to repair it outside of warranty..
Where is Malcolm from Lincoln? Haven't seen him in ages doing any videos.
No idea mate
Has Pete repaired/serviced the BR500 yet ?
Has he bugger... Still working on it lol
Nice fix . Pineapple time.
Oh yes!
Hi mick where is the best place to get parts for mowers even the older ones.
eBay.. garden hire spares.. l&s . Amazon
Depends on the models. Currently finding quite a few of the 1990's Harrier 56 models are becoming a struggle to obtain parts for now like the cable assembly (has throttle, drive and engine brake cable on them). Engine parts on these mowers are also becoming difficult to obtain as Briggs and Stratton stopped production of this engine ages ago and don't supply important internal parts for the side shaft engines
Hey Mick. I too have this Hayter 48 pro with drive problems. Tried the V belt did not solve the problem . Mower has only been used domestically so no real wear. Was great when new 4 years back. Then one day it went okay for about 5 minutes and then almost completely lost the drive, I thought that this video was my solution but on stripping the rear roller everything seems to be just fine, No wear at all. If I let it cool for about half an hour the drive returns but again for just about 3 runs of the length of the lawn. Any ideas anyone? Plus I found that this mower does not have those two batman end plates covering the plastic bush. This is my second and last Hayter. Have given up on it and got me a Honda 536.
The 48 only have a single bat man disc... They do eat gearboxes unlike the 56pros..
Hayter Harriers quality went down hill when Toro took them over.
You think....
the side drives were the best there not a commercial machine never have been never willl be the contractors likem for the stripes thats it
Yeah mate... Oh to find a new one sitting in a barn...
@@themowerman trust me ive had a few in me travels as a gardener
Drive system issues with this one 😕🤬😠😡 i like the ngk hat
Love the hat...
@@themowerman cool beans 🫘 there Mick the mower man
Mick , is it just me buddy or are those engine garbage , I have had 3 to look at today and all 3 had the same internal damage , glad I only paid £20 for all 3
Lol
@@themowerman was extremely surprised I always thought Briggs and Stratton where the bees knees 😞
unfortanatley briggs stop making the side drive due to countax in the states had the same model and stop making it in thus of that briggs said it werent worth making for one manufacterer hayter so hayter had to come up with another way of driving the mower a big fail
Well it will keep us busy lol
@@themowerman same here but when you run out of hours in the day fixing and bastardising them to work right you have to find an alternative that dont break as much