I like your no mucking round simplicity, its a refreshing change from the Americans who preamble everything from their daughters car to historical records of a river that was hot in 1963.
I’ve been intrigued by the dry dropper setup and looking for ways to incorporate that in my dry fly spinning rig. I really like the simplicity of this and will be practicing later today to give it a try. Thank you for sharing.
This “Rig” is exactly how I like to fish Trout, especially in Spring when drys are starting to lay on the surface. BUT your knots here are smaller & simpler than how I’ve been using. Which of course means More time saved , which means More opportunities for hits! Tnx Man 👍🇺🇸
What I’ve started doing is tying up a leader of about 12 feet in total length with two 8 inch tags sticking off of it, and a simple overhand knot in the end in case I wish to add split shot. I’ll make 3 or 5 of them and just keep them in my fly bag. That way when I need a new leader with tags, or if I get broken off I’m not sitting in the water tying stuff up when I could be fishing.
Yep that’s a great idea. I do the same thing for comp fishing, especially the 3 fly rigs for lake fishing, saves so much time on the water. I rig them up on foam spools, sometimes with flies pre rigged. I just tie the tippet section that I can attach to the tippet ring for quick changes.
nice one peachy! im dying to get out for a fly day chasing kings in the next few weeks in the harbour. maybe a cox's trout run also! keep up the good work!
Thanks Lochie! Yeah I haven't really fished the harbour for a few weeks now, school hols & kids at home. Good luck on the kings! Hope to get out there again soon! :)
Thanks Declan, no I haven’t had a problem with it. You don’t have to do the half hitch though, it’s optional, so if you prefer just fish with the straight surgeons knot or J knot. :)
That is simple and brilliant. Thanks for sharing. What is unique about your video is that you are setting up a set of dropper flies on a leader that is not tapered. When you tie this, what weight monofilament are you using?
Thanks John! I use this for a few different applications so leader weight will vary. I mainly use fluorocarbon rather than nylon, for euro nymphing I'll typically use 6x, whereas for trout spey or stripping streamers in a lake I might use 3x or even 2x. I don't taper my euro leaders much if at all, but in a trout spey or lake leader there is some tapering in the tips / leader. This knot is tied in the tippet section after any tapered section anyway. :)
I am not 100% sure of the relative strengths of the triple surgeon's and the half hitch, but I'd expect the triple surgeon's to be stronger. So, by tying the fly to a dropper off the half hitch is there a greater risk of a fish breaking off?
That's a good question, I haven't tested by accurately measuring it. In real world fishing I haven't noticed any problem with it, it seems to me from my experience to be no different. An extra half hitch shouldn't weaken the knot I wouldn't think, but it might be worth testing!
@@PeachyFlyFishing Many thanks for such a quick reply. I had assumed that you wouldn't be using a system with a recognised failure point, but nevertheless was concerned that it was a potential weak point, especially if I got the fish of a lifetime on the dropper. I will certainly give it a try. Cheers.
Thanks for the great tip. Could you tell me what you do when your dropper tag gets too short to tie on another fly? Do you rerig, or do you clip off the dropper tag snf tie on a new dropper with some kind of knot above the surgeon's knot?
Thanks Alex, I will do either of those depending on the condition of the leader. You can attach a new dropper above the existing knot using a 3 turn blood knot and then just slide it down so it’s flush with the top of the old knot. :)
Thanks for the prompt reply! I was thinking if the line section was cut (vs the tag section) close to the knot, it would have a greater chance of unraveling.
Ah I’m not sure that I understood your question correctly, when you say the upper tag to be cut off, do you mean the initial tag that is left facing back up the main line after you tie the knot (before you cut the loop)?
When I referred to the upper tag, I meant within the loop. When one cuts the loop, does it make any difference which end of the loop is cut? That Is the question. Thank you for any clarification on this point.
Thanks, yes you may be right. The half hitch it optional, use it if you like or not. The idea is more to stick the tag out at right angles if that's what you want to do. :)
I like your no mucking round simplicity, its a refreshing change from the Americans who preamble everything from their daughters car to historical records of a river that was hot in 1963.
Haha! Thanks! :)
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Best dropper leader tying method yet. Simple, effective, and a straight forward method of reducing tangles. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks!
I’ve been intrigued by the dry dropper setup and looking for ways to incorporate that in my dry fly spinning rig. I really like the simplicity of this and will be practicing later today to give it a try. Thank you for sharing.
No problem, hope it works for you! :)
Thanks for this! Always getting my droppers tangled and wrapped around the main line. Super simple way to stand them out and stop this! :)
No problem, hope it helps!
This “Rig” is exactly how I like to fish Trout, especially in Spring when drys are starting to lay on the surface. BUT your knots here are smaller & simpler than how I’ve been using. Which of course means More time saved , which means More opportunities for hits! Tnx Man 👍🇺🇸
You're welcome mate! :)
Great tutorial - brilliantly simple and making my life so much easier!😁
Glad to hear it, thanks! :)
Loved this. Very helpful and fast! I'll definitely be using this method for my triple surgeon tags from now on! Thank you!
No problem, thanks Noel!
I’m practicing tying it as we speak!
Easy peasy!
Fantastic vid thank you just getting into euro nymphing, heading to snowys end of Feb 24
No worries mate, good luck hope you catch a few! :)
Extremely helpful and easy, too. Thanks!
You’re welcome! :)
this is beautiful thank you I never thought of trying the surgeons with a loop, I always used 2 different sections of tippet. thank you so much!
No problem! :)
I really appreciate this video this will make things much easier on the stream
That’s great, thanks Mark!
Thanks for sharing this information with all of us.
You’re welcome! :)
lightbulb moment thank you for explaining this!
No problem! :)
Just Excellent, Peachy! 😀
Thanks Ken! :)
What I’ve started doing is tying up a leader of about 12 feet in total length with two 8 inch tags sticking off of it, and a simple overhand knot in the end in case I wish to add split shot. I’ll make 3 or 5 of them and just keep them in my fly bag. That way when I need a new leader with tags, or if I get broken off I’m not sitting in the water tying stuff up when I could be fishing.
Yep that’s a great idea. I do the same thing for comp fishing, especially the 3 fly rigs for lake fishing, saves so much time on the water. I rig them up on foam spools, sometimes with flies pre rigged. I just tie the tippet section that I can attach to the tippet ring for quick changes.
@@PeachyFlyFishing time to get some tippet rings! I’ve been attaching the tippet leader section to the sighter with a very small blood knot hah
That still works fine, tippet rings are convenient though, your sighter leader lasts longer as you’re not cutting into it to change rigs.
Thats a great tutorial. Thanks for sharing. Thumbs up.
Thanks Carl! :)
Thanks for the video. Quick and easy.
No problem! :)
Going to give this a go in the up coming trout season here in the UK peachy 👍
Excellent, good luck! :)
Just what Ive been looking for - thanks!!
No problem! :)
Brilliant.
I didn’t think of that. Cheers!
No problem! :)
Thank you very much for sharing I was unaware of it
You're welcome! :)
Great, Simple, Well Done!
Thanks Todd! :)
My new go to. Thanks
You’re welcome!
GREAT video !!! thank you
No problem! :)
nice one peachy! im dying to get out for a fly day chasing kings in the next few weeks in the harbour. maybe a cox's trout run also! keep up the good work!
Thanks Lochie! Yeah I haven't really fished the harbour for a few weeks now, school hols & kids at home. Good luck on the kings! Hope to get out there again soon! :)
Thanks great tip,just one question the half hitch at the end dose this create a wind knot because catch rates are reduced due to wind knots ?
Thanks Declan, no I haven’t had a problem with it. You don’t have to do the half hitch though, it’s optional, so if you prefer just fish with the straight surgeons knot or J knot. :)
Thanks Peachy for all your help 👍
That is simple and brilliant. Thanks for sharing. What is unique about your video is that you are setting up a set of dropper flies on a leader that is not tapered. When you tie this, what weight monofilament are you using?
Thanks John! I use this for a few different applications so leader weight will vary. I mainly use fluorocarbon rather than nylon, for euro nymphing I'll typically use 6x, whereas for trout spey or stripping streamers in a lake I might use 3x or even 2x. I don't taper my euro leaders much if at all, but in a trout spey or lake leader there is some tapering in the tips / leader. This knot is tied in the tippet section after any tapered section anyway. :)
I am not 100% sure of the relative strengths of the triple surgeon's and the half hitch, but I'd expect the triple surgeon's to be stronger. So, by tying the fly to a dropper off the half hitch is there a greater risk of a fish breaking off?
That's a good question, I haven't tested by accurately measuring it. In real world fishing I haven't noticed any problem with it, it seems to me from my experience to be no different. An extra half hitch shouldn't weaken the knot I wouldn't think, but it might be worth testing!
@@PeachyFlyFishing Many thanks for such a quick reply. I had assumed that you wouldn't be using a system with a recognised failure point, but nevertheless was concerned that it was a potential weak point, especially if I got the fish of a lifetime on the dropper. I will certainly give it a try. Cheers.
Thanks for the great tip. Could you tell me what you do when your dropper tag gets too short to tie on another fly? Do you rerig, or do you clip off the dropper tag snf tie on a new dropper with some kind of knot above the surgeon's knot?
Thanks Alex, I will do either of those depending on the condition of the leader. You can attach a new dropper above the existing knot using a 3 turn blood knot and then just slide it down so it’s flush with the top of the old knot. :)
Brilliant, cheers
Euro nymphing! Every day is a school day.
Haha, yep!
Благодарю ! Это то , что нужно !
You're welcome! :)
I like the loop method you use but how do you properly identify the upper tag to be cut off?
Thanks. It doesn’t really matter which one you cut off, the knot strength is about the same. :)
Thanks for the prompt reply! I was thinking if the line section was cut (vs the tag section) close to the knot, it would have a greater chance of unraveling.
Ah I’m not sure that I understood your question correctly, when you say the upper tag to be cut off, do you mean the initial tag that is left facing back up the main line after you tie the knot (before you cut the loop)?
When I referred to the upper tag, I meant within the loop. When one cuts the loop, does it make any difference which end of the loop is cut? That Is the question. Thank you for any clarification on this point.
@RoccoPugliese-uz2oc no problem! No I don’t think it makes a difference. :)
That is so simple.
Yep! That's the way it should be!
Genius!
Thanks!
So very good.
Thanks! :)
I would think the half-hitch becomes the weak point in the dropper so tying a stronger loop knot is probably not needed.
Thanks, yes you may be right. The half hitch it optional, use it if you like or not. The idea is more to stick the tag out at right angles if that's what you want to do. :)
f'n brilliant! Thanks!
No prob! :)
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