The Best Ways to Use Dragons | 5e Dungeons & Dragons | Web DM
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Today we're talking DRAGONS and why we love them so much! They're half the title of Dungeons & Dragons after all- here's how we make them the most amazing, memorable, and iconic creatures in our games!
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Web DM I’ve gotten 2 minis from them and they are fabulous
Another video from my boys Pruitt and Davison. Time to brew a hot cup of coffee, sit back and relax, and learn something. 👍
My 2-year old and I were equally both transfixed by your introduction today. She was so cute.
your children must had a blast playing " He-man" with you guys. Or any other action figure game.
you guys are the greatest of all time :3
That intro. I am sCREAMING.
"I felt my cloaca moisten."
cursed sentence
SOTBS Just ignore it. Acknowledging a cursed sentence gives it power.
This is the best intro on this show in my opinion. But no ya that sentence wow
Laughed so hard I had a coughing fit. Oh, it hurts! HA!
powerful opener
PLEASE UNSAY THAT
After a minute and a half I started to think the entire episode was gonna be Jim and Pruitts weird dragon roleplay and I was okay with that
You're dumb. Also, me too...I agree. Guess we're dumb.
Sadly, it had to end.
Stinger is worth the wait.
That's a patreon episode if I have ever heard of one
@@thezerowulf507 I'm all for that!
I'm not sure, but I think "I feel my cloaca moisten" is the worst phrase I have heard in a good long while
If someone gets too close to me in a dark alley, I now know what to say...
@@SpaceTrump wtf is this cursed sentence about a cursed sentence I feel like reading this gave me bad luck
Sounds lewd lol
colton mason Roll constitution it’s a male
r/cursedcomment
I swear, these guys are on a never-ending quest to make the most awkward intro segment ever lol
I highly recommend the Drawfee Variety Hour if you're into that
They are nearing the end of their quest. I hope. Surely it can't get much worse. I can't handle much more of this.
The quest was fulfilled today. They need to find the guy to turn it in.
That's a weird way to spell "best"
Wet DM
you guys spit out at least three campaigns worth of info here.
Use it please!
So many ideas of campaigns and quests can be yoinked from each episode.
I always point my DMs into these two for more ideas.
This video made my cloaca moisten
"Its the big bad you dont just run into him" no one told strahd this lol
"You don't run into Strahd. Strahd runs into you."
In accursed Barovia, Strahd plays you.
Oh Strahd's been told that a thousand times. He respectfully disagrees with it every time. He likes to keep things nice and personal rather than stay cooped up in his coffin all day.
My strahd runs into you...and backhands the over talkative warlock for 20 of her 26 hp. She was MUCH less talkative after that.
Dark Helmet: Did you see anything?
Captain: No, sir. I didn't see you playing with your dragons again!
sanders is a colonel....
@@isaoblack987 Dark Helmet isn't, though.
I feel like there should be A LOT more young dragons about, kind of fighting openly amongst each other as a trial in which only a few live to be even adults much less ancients.
Think really big , bears or tigers. Tigers will kill to protect their hunting areas.
Green dragons look after their young to well.
Black & red dragons will just leave eggs here and there to plague the local humanoids settlements.
"Cloaca"
I'm subbed to the right channel.
In 3rd grade I discovered "A practical guide to dragons". I later found out that it's dnd and that I've been obsessed with dnd my entire life and didn't even know it!
Same dude
Same here.
I was into d&d as a kid but only had the 3.0 PHB and didn’t know what the d&d dragons were like, I was given that book as a gift and never realized that it was about d&d’s dragons for like 2-3 years before I bought a MM and was shocked to realize this same thing.
Similar boat here.
I also remember skimming through a book of beautifully drawn monsters. I believe it was a one of the classic manuals
This intro made me feel things and I’m not sure how to process this.
Through the cloaca ;)
"I don't even know what green and blue make" was hilarious
It's actually Lumbago
Aquamarine maybe
the likes were at 69 and it was so hard for me to touch it (does that make up for it?) =p =]
this is the weirdest intro you've ever done
Thank you
"Lonely spells in your area" was the best one and this is the weirdest one. All kinds of records being broken!
@@Ramperdos Which video was that one again
@@jesseward4115 It was the underused/forgotten spells they did a few weeks ago!
@@Ramperdos That's right. Thank you
"why did we ever fight?"
"This is so much more fun"
Excuse me while I pick myself up off the ground, I seemed to have laughed right out of my chair 😂
Enemies to Lovers, multiple chapters, (skip to the end for the smut), 12k words
INTRO:
"Yes... This is a fertile land... we shall call it... this land"
"I think we call it YOUR GRAVE"
"Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!"
What's this one from? I remember it and want to watch it again.
He was a leaf on the wind. Taken from us too soon.
@@jamietanner3552 you've simultaneously made me happy and depressed.
RIP Hoban Washburne 😭
"5 editions later and they're still half the goddamn title!" lol
I asked for an episode on dragons through the patreon. I am so excited to see it. Thank you so much for listening to your patrons. You guys are the best. You too Travis, you don't get enough love.
Thank you Billy!
I am expecting the next episode to be, "The Best Way to Use Dungeons"
I wouldn't mind that.
the cut to Jim at 1:10 is incredible
pro editing
Please, please PLEASE make a WebDM puppet channel where all you guys do is scenes with puppeted minis. It's what the people want.
These are exactly the kinds of ideas I'm looking for in my campaign! I'll be watching this video a few times.
2 minutes into web DM and there is no chill lmao
That intro, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of why I BECAME A MEMBER OF THEIR PATREON.
I know I like how I made my dragons just a little more special
Green dragons have literal silver tongues, gold dragons gave hearts of gold, black dragons dont have hearts, but they keep the blood flowing through eating within a certain period of time, and the steel dragons nerves are unmatched in toughness
I like the idea that in the world it isnt "they have dragons blood", but instead its "they have A DRAGONS blood"
Everything you can get is powerfull and expensive
Telkei I’m off to create magic items out of specific dragon organs now. Thank you very much.
@@DarkWanderer149 do it!! It makes the world so much richer
I already have a prototype incase someone wants to do something with the green dragons tongue
Grafting it properly, it gives you proficiency, maybe even expertise in deception if they are ancient, doesnt matter what your charisma score is, if you pass the skills and kill the dragon? There you go!
Damn, I wasn't going to put any dragons in my campaign, but after reading this I can't wait to throw one at my party.
@@raf.raf. I mean it's D&D... gotta throw a dragon and a dungeon in.
I don't know if I'd go that far, but I tend to think of dragons as being one of the first things to crawl from the primordial chaos. They are living relics of the most bygone of ages. As such, their bodies are inundated with primeval magic, from when the world was new and all of creation was vibrant and alive. Magic suffuses every part of them. Their scales, teeth, and claws so magical they channel and resist the elements. Their breath is _certainly_ magical. As is their blood, which is so potent, it gives people sorcerous power when imbibed (and/or giving people the ability to understand the language of birds or whatever), and will cause new, draconic life to spontaneously generate from the soil where it was spilled.
Where do you think the first kobolds, dragonborn, faerie dragons, drakes, wyverns, etc came from? Dragons were injured, and from their blood arose all the dragon-kin in the world. The bastard progeny of the rulers of monsters and the earth over which they fly.
Well I spit my coffee on my phone with the "Give him the Forest Whitaker eye" comment. I hope you are happy with yourselves...
Community was an amazing show. You should check it out
I just watched two grown men play with dragons for two minutes... I ReGrEt NoThInG!!!
"Weee are, uh... talking about dragons"
Yes... Bad Dragons™
Web DM, that is an Amazing dragon mini collection!
The dragons are so great!
I did some calculations on dragon travel for my campaign and i came up SIGNIFICANTLY higher then you guys did. curious what people think of my research and calculations.
from what i understand the 80-90 miles per day, it is about half of the max travel distance(with the big assumption they will return to their lair every evening)
so 80ft every six seconds(a turn) = 9mph times 24 hours = 216 miles
you do bring up the need for resting even if you decide they need to rest for 1 hour for each 3 hours of travel, with the 9 mph speed they get the about 72miles you give.
however, looking at real-world air travel of animals that doesn't really make sense.
if you calculate their combat movement speed they get 9 mph, but that is slower then the average airspeed of almost all birds, with the lowest being 5mph being the slowest a bird can fly without crashing(mating ritual for an american woodcock)
I used a goose as a travel comparison point, a goose travels at 40 miles PER HOUR average, with up to 70 mph. in good wind
geese have been known to travel upwards of 1500 miles in a day in ideal conditions.
note other birds cruise on average at 20-30 mph, but geese travel at the high altitudes that dragons do. even a hummingbird can get up to 60 mph, and cover over 500 mph per day.
I decided that because of the size of the dragon they cannot move as fast as a goose, but to maintain flight they can't be moving that much slower. (more mass means stalling limit is higher) So I eyeballed it and gave them the low end of average bird cruising speed, 20 mph, with the benefits of high altitude flying. To me going any slower would be them hovering rather than sustained flying. Also if you imagine a goose flying overhead, it makes sense a Dragon can fly at about half that speed.
even if you decide they need to rest for 1 hour for each 3 hours of travel, with the 20 mph they get 360, but in my view of traveling for 24 hours they travel 480 miles per day, and that was the lowest speed that made sense to me.
here are my assumptions
1st: with dragons super hi CON, it makes sense to me that they have incredible endurance even in unfavorable wind and conditions, I argue dragons can go days without sleeping, but as a result can sleep away weeks and even years if they feel so inclined.
2nd: they are on the low end of Bird cruising speed.
3rd to explain the difference in combat speed, is because to remain maneuverable the dragon can only get 80 ft of movement(9mph) but on long stretches get up to the travel speed of 20 mph
to me combat movement speeds shouldn't be used to calculate travel movement speeds. but then this is D&D and not everyone wants the same realism I do, and the 9mph is the only speed the monster manual gives us.
for those curious, I calculated this for my group because they needed to escape a Red dragon that murdered their mentors and wanted to know how far they needed to get before it would be guaranteed they were out of his territory.
I did this for the fun of it and wanted to share what I found, and see what everyone thinks!
Aaron thank you for your time, that as a fun read.
Birds and bats eat up to nearly five times their body weight each day to maintain daily flight.
Also birds only fly hen they need to, or have a good thermal up drift ti circle in.
Also bats will hit a fruit tree and eat till they are to heavy to fly.
Larger the dragon the more it needs to fuel it's self for flight.
Good new, gators and crocs are like bears, then can go for weeks or months without food. Once it's fat reserves are built up.
@@krispalermo8133 great point about feeding, yeah it makes a ton on sense a dragon would store energy. It is logical that if well fed before they could likely go days of travel on stored food. Again a reflection of their crazy high Con stats, and as you say, their lizard biology.
I don’t think I’ll ever unhear 1:50 greatest intro thus far
Now I got an idea for how dragons act. They could act like cats.
I haven’t watch the video yet but the intro had me dying I loved it ❤️
Me starting the video: this better be for the whole 40 minutes
That intro should just be the entire show from now on.
The best way to use dragons is outdoors where they have room to fly . They do not play fair. They play to win.
Not even the lair actions and some lesser creatures being involved in the combat underground makes up tor keeping the dragon from flying.
It will soar and drop rocks and circle out of range until its breath recharges for another pass.
Breathe, grab a PC, soar up a LONG way and drop them.
If I never hear "I feel my cloaca moisten" ever again, it'll be too soon.
I have to say I really liked that in 3e/3.5e all dragons were sorcerers. It linked in well with the class, and it just made sense to me.
They're supposed to be in 5e aswell but 5e dumbed down and stripped alot of monster of some of their main features. There is a side bar for dragons having magic in 5e.
I feel that you guys really focused on dragons as beasts or an antagonistic force. But what about good dragons? How do we use them as either friendly or neutral NPCs?
Bryce Grant well they did focus heavily on chromatic dragons. Maybe they’ll make another one for the more good aligned dragons in a later, probably much later, episode.
The only good dragon is a dead one.
Kacper Sulik Goblin Slayer’s friend as arrived, Dragon Slayer.
Have you ever been cornered by a brass dragon? It won’t kill you, but it will talk like a claptrap.
Philip, John Ryan Greetings traveler
Came for information on Dragons, stayed for two fully grown man children playing with Toys.
Just like in the armed forces, where they even get payed for it :-D
Dragons can be anywhere via spell abilities like polymorph(which Platnum Dragons love to do and mingle with humans) and Mist Form, Use WIzards Eye to inspect an area then use Teleport ect. A Red Dragon would Polymorph into a Fire Salamander to traverse into a volcano. A Black Dragon might Poly into a python to slither through the swamps thickets.
ROFL!!!!!!!! (genuine belly laugh)
You brought an already funny skit to another PLANE of EXISTENCE by going ALL IN!! You guys are the best.
As a player, I never want to fight and kill dragons. I want to talk to them. I actually made a kobold who's mom is a bronze dragon that collects eggs. She's left the nest with her brother/steed to find an acceptable egg to bring back home
Gaasuba Meskhenet may I yoink this wholesome character
@@DarkWanderer149 go ahead~
Her steed is a reptile or Drake acceptable to the GM. She was near by when he hatched
That's precious
@@WebDM oh gosh. Too much of a boost.
I feel like I should clarify that I based her loosely on an existing character in media.
Hint
She also loves swimming
And her brother is easily distracted by food
This is it chief. The greatest intro of all time
We think so too
I've always struggled with using Faerie Dragons in a campaign setting as a DM. I really don't know where to fit it in unless it's specifically an enchanted forest.
They really should be at least a duel creature type of fey and dragon. That being said maybe can add them as a shifty store owner that sales defunct magic items dealers maybe with mini hordes of cursed items.
Well, they specifically love sweets, so maybe there’s a bad guy is manipulating faerie dragons by giving them sugar
forget those clown dragons
@@Xenibalt I mean they are fae turned pseudo dragons, which pseudos aren't "true" greater dragons, like in the witcher games while some vamps are called "higher" they aren't "true" higher vampires, if that makes sense?
So I wouldn't see them as dragons like the actual true dragons, personally.
DRAGONS & MURDER HOBOS
20 some years ago I started going to my first RPG game shop, and I met murder hobos player groups.
This was still in the days of AD&D2e and dragon fights were a whole different game.
It ran an Open Campaign Setting where different player groups could compete against each other for good nature sport.
Sadly one group got kick out cause these murder hobos killed a 9 year old kid's gnome and copper dragon mount.
At the time the shop had " Council of the Wrym " box set campaign setting. So some of us ran dragon pc.
Some nights all our dragon characters did was run from M.H. adventures try to kill us for XP and our hides.
M.H. were use to their DM letting them just kill the monsters/ dragons for sport and these 20 some year old Adults were whining that we were cheating cause they were unable to kill our dragon characters.
a.) We treated our dragons as teenagers just out of the house/ lair, and we were trying to have as much fun and trouble we could find. Wild hatchling are just over size eight year olds without parents telling them what to do.
i.) Dragons are like " dogs," they Love human cooked food. And all children need hugs, even when they say they don't.
So red dragons or black dragons are usually capture/ charm or con into behaving to human standers for cooked season food and have daily petting/ blanket rub down.
ii.) Marsh/ wet land black or dragon dragons will try to kill another dragon breed to their " Area." Like any other wolf pack would. Plot device, take in a baby red and have the local green/ black try to kill it. Or the local noble tries to claim the beast as a " threat " to the local farming.
b.) Green dragons as young adults will still move in groups of two to five with their siblings for protection from larger dragons, and humanoids. Greens are a gang of strait up muggers . AD&D2e red dragons left their parents lair by age juvenile or they are thrown out. A juvenile dragon is around 20 years old but by human standers, they just turn 12 to 13 years old. Red dragons are rowdy teenagers.
i.) Reds never attack a target with their breath weapon unless they really Have to. Fire can destroy value treasure they don't want to lose. So they will stalk their target for days or weeks.
ii.) Juvenile and young adult dragons will just " cat nap " in a open local grazing field to provoke a challage or try to lord over a small village till the baron's men show up to run it off. Also as any teenager that has just got out of the house with no curfew , they want to see and get into Everything. !
Next I want a full spin off of that Intro thanks
I mean, other than strafing and breathing tactics, a dragon could pretty easily grab a handful of big rocks or logs, fly high, and just *drop them.*
Lol that intro was just too much. Love those Community references.
For a one shot, what level do you suggest 3-5 pcs should be to fight a red dragon? Or any type of dragon.
Depends on the age of the dragon! We've fought a young silver dragon at 5-7 iirc
Depends entirely on the dragon and what age range it is. In terms of challenge rating, wyrmlings vary from 2-4, young from 6-10, adult from 13-17, and ancient from 20-24.
Cool thanks guys!
“ThiS iS So mUCh MOrE FuN”
Best WebDM intro ever XD
Thank you!
That ending was great, I wouldn’t mind a small story before every episode. Haha
2:12 wtf did I just watch...
On dragons in Dungeons: it's not actually all that weird when you remember that many dragons (if not all) are also spellcasters and could almost certainly change their form to just WALK out of the dungeon. Or, perhaps when they are about to be beaten, they pose as a slave or prisoner of some kind and are "rescued" by the party
Don't forget about polymorph! Dragons can be walking the streets, or use it to get down to a massive cavern.
A home rule I have is to not disrespect the minis by treating them like toys, and you guys set the perfect example as to why I have this rule. But, I will say the amount of nerd-knowledge you both drop in that small role play is something I would forgive easily... just don't let it happen again ☝️🤓
I straight up made a red dragon polymorph himself into a gold dragon and convinced everyone to let him be prince of the city state. I'm working with the theme of "is it better to be born good of heart or to overcome your evil at great effort" Bahamut, my dragon is trying his best to be a good person, a just prince & a righteous leader dispute his habits and desires.
The opening gave me STRONG Marbleympics vibes
My halfling ranger in my first 5e campaign successfully seduced a red dragon once in order to keep it busy while the party took care of the rest of the baddies. Luckily we were able to escape before my halfling was defiled by the giant, horny reptile.
No lie, this Intro is legitimately what my gf thinks d&d is. One time she pantomimed a combat she thinks d&d looks like. She picked up a little mini going,"pew pew" shooting its arrow at an orc mini.
I laughed until I cried. I still laugh about it from time to time.
We wanna play d&d with her. We think.
You play dnd and have a girlfriend. I call bullshit.
All this time I have been playing it wrong?
Sheer. Perfection. Honestly I want to see a small sub-series of them just playing with action figures!!
Thanks Tim!
City Intrigue Campaign: The players need to track and trap an evil Dragon who's hiding out as a humanoid In a city
I CANNOT LIKE THIS ENOUGH!!!!! RUclips NEEDS TO ADD A SPECIAL "LIKE X" BUTTON WHERE WE CAN INPUT THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF LIKES WE FEEL THIS NEEDS!!!!
"Red McCombs" Hah! Gotta love that Austin flair. I see you.
Moist. Cloaca.
Our party re-incarnated a red adult dragon once.... we now have a very pissed off halfling after us now
That opening! Y'all dumb, but so funny.
Y'all went full Black Mirror: Striking Vipers there for a second, and I'm here for it. Hah!
By bahamut, when Dragons be sliding into your Web DMs, talking about their moist cloaca...
Weirdest 2 mins of my life.
Thank you
I just finished reading "The Bounds of Reason," which is a Witcher story in _The Sword of Destiny_ featuring a dragon hunt. What I thought was cool about that is that it's almost a communal thing with the king bringing several parties of dragon slayers, as well as attendants and so one. This creates a great situation for intrigue as everyone is competing for the lion's share of the dragon's hoard, as well as having various ulterior motives for being there. I really like the idea of running that scenario where everyone has a secret win condition, maybe in addition to trying to get the dragon's hoard (in the story, one character was actually a conservationist trying to rescue the dragon, one was in the pocket of the gem-cutter's guild and was trying to keep the dragon's gems from flooding the market, etc.).
Can we get a whole episode of that D&D, Dragons & Drama?
We're certainly considering it
I can feel my cloaca moisten... wow, just wow. LMFAO
Only 72miles in a day ? I feel they should be able to go so much further .
To be honest I'd be satisfied if they just continued the first skit for the whole video.
Smaug is the worst example in tolkien of a spellcasting and smart ancient dragon lol
i cant wait until next episode where JIM’S BEARD IS GONE
Probably not til 2020!
That intro was golden...and I don't mean the dragon breed.
I wish this episode was just the dragon role play. I was enjoying it all.
That intro was so amazing I didn't pay attention to the video.
When the monsters are waiting for the PCs to come around....
I just played on Hero Forge for several hours
You are the heroes who have just completed my Side Quest (:
It's so much fun!!
That intro... well done. Way to commit to the bit.
Ironically just met a dragon for the first time in this weeks installment of the game. Had a chat with it, and lived. Well pleased.
:-)
when chatting with dragons, be careful its stomach is full and you know something the dragon is interested in!
Sweatiest intro 🤣
This reminds me of the art page in the first print of the 2e book that shows a clearly seasoned party having stung up a small as heck dragon and posing for a picture that no one is taking!
Commited to the bit a bit long tbh... Uncomfortable.
Almost 3 years later and this is still the greatest intro of all time.
I was really hoping that intro would be half the video.
Imagine a Dragon as a predatory corporate entity if it likes to hide in society. Got it's wealth easily via privateering on the high seas as a Dragon, sold all the loot for gold, and got minions to crew an armada of ships it captured. Protected it's hoard in a bank it opened for business, and now deals in predatory loans.I
Voitan Would loan sharks be called loan dragons in a fantasy world? If so would that be Green or Red, which respectively one is doing it for fun the other is doing it for the actual wealth.
Can you guys just start a whole other show just playing with figures and making voices?
The opening skit gave me an idea. My party is going to stumble apon a baby dragon fighting league.
BEST INTRO EVER!!
I’ve been waiting all week!!!!!
I can see a Dragon pushing itself through a keyhole for 10 minutes, saying "I'm coming for you" the whole time, classic!
That intro... *WHAT?!?!?*
That was probably the best Web DM intro yet
The opening is how I imagine Jim and Pruitt play D&D during their in-person sessions.
Ummm
Sometimes?
Check out our Razel Sinn games on this channel if you'd like to see an example of how we play in person.