@@gorilla5558 The ghost who's implied to have become Metaton exists in Deltarune. We can't see them, but we can talk to them through the door at one of the houses in the town.
The segment of 0:55 - 1:21 is straight up beautiful to listen to, the Spamton's voice lines, the phone rings, the bits of World Revolving, and Power of NEO/Battle Against a True Hero playing all at once just sounds amazing. I suppose you could say it crackles with freedom.
@@tpalmer4757 Well, I can hear at the start, "Please Mike(or Knight), pick up the phone," "Pulls the strings makes them ring," and at the end, I could hear repeated "Pulls the strings," followed by "TELL ME WHAT IT MEANS." Not exactly sure on the accuracy of the lyrics, and there's still a few I can't make out, but there's the few that I can hear
Agreed, maybe except in difficulty, boss isn't that hard (unless you do the snowgrave route, the fights a pain then, but I don't really count it because it's mandatory, not a optional secret boss)
I hate not enough people talk about that- how he just wastes a turn and blasted by hundreds of his own tiny heads. It was such a funny moment in the fight
You know, is kinda ironic how the creepy, mentally unstable scammer is the one who calls you out about turning your innocent friend into a psychopath, specially when you try to call Noelle and he just says "You are still trying to use her?". It really goes to show how horrible the Weird route is when even the crazy character think you are fucked up.
he only started to step in cause we were interfering with his plan to rule that world, if we weren't about to seal the fountain, he probably would've just let kris go
@@junconglin "WHAT? ARE YOU SERIOUS?" "IS FOR YOU!" in weird route has really different type of joke. at that moment where you fight with Spamton after making Snowgrave,he probally says "IS FOR YOU" not for kris,but for player.
@@tomohiro1399 he was never in jail he was in his little freedom world he wanted to show his freedom to everyone else which means he wants the world to revolve with chaos
Poor dude, I feel bad for him, driven completely insane in trying to look for a way to freedom, lost all his friends, went from top to bottom and got prolly glitched by gaster in the process
With Jevil you felt like you're just caught up in his fit of insanity. With Spamton you feel like you have to stop him... but you also want to save him from his situation and himself. It helps that you get to know him beforehand
Yeah, I couldn't help but feel bad for Spamton, especially when he had those moments of lucidity when he mentioned Mike (a close friend, perhaps?), when you asked him about the Knight (he knew something about the Knight, and was about to say it, his nuttiness took over), and then when you beat him on the pacifist route. When you "free" him in the normal route, he speaks normally, and his words about how he couldn't break his own strings, and then offers to be your strength, hit me good. The poor guy is trapped with some insane lunatic calling the shots in his own head (as evidenced by his Knight and Fear questions in his shop), and in his death, he finally gets a moment of clarity, wishing you the best. At least Spamton got a peaceful rest.
After listening to this for a bit, I can see at least 4 different songs being used here: - Spamton's Theme ([[BIG SHOT]], need I say more?) - The Power of NEO (Bearing a BIG resemblance, almost like a knock-off version. And, well, utilizing the Yellow soul like Mettaton would utilize.) - Dummy! (Pay attention to the few cords played before the song loops. It's the same notes and instrument! Could play into how the strings make him move like dummy to be played with. A body with no soul, maybe...) - The World Revolving (Connections to Jevil as a secret boss and a being of chaos, something that has become more relevant with the plot. Maybe these are keys to a good or alternate ending?)
@@kingcamelot1395 this whole chapter if you freeze the enemies proves the oposite he also said this don't has anything to be with undertale then again chapter 2 announced in undertale aniversary
@@StarFried well, why would he make a game for undertale, when the fans are waiting for the sequel to a game already established, with an easier ending to transition from
When Spamton says "DID YOU KNOW [[NEO]] IS FAMOUS FOR IT'S HIGH DEFENSE?", he isn't lying. You gotta remember the only reason why we think NEO is weak is because in Undertale's Genocide Route, we do 36,912 dmg to Mettaton NEO in 1 hit. In Deltarune, we don't have that kind of strength. All we have is fight or X-Slash and those do 224 and 586 maximum respectfully.
a bit of a nitpick, but in genocide you deal around 900000 to 999999 dmg to mettaton neo (im typing this in a middle of an exam lol) more info: dealing any less than that implies your route is aborted, with mettaton neo saying you're not absolutely evil
You're actually wrong. In the game's files Mettaton NEO's defense is actually -40000 even though checking him in battle says otherwise (there are moments where checking someone will give false information like in Undyne's fight)
Not gonna lie I had more trouble with the tea cup part before the boss than the actual boss 😔 Boss was still fun though, easier don’t mean bad in this regard
Deltarune has managed to find its own identity in spite of its older sibling, UNDERTALE, looming over it, which itself is impressive. Which makes the fact that this song is like a cursed amalgamation of old Undertale and Spamton feel even more creepy. Almost like a reminder. “It doesn’t forget.”
As someone who is now a BIG SHOT, I loved this fight and Spamton's story and Arc, he was such a random and sudden foe then made it all the more shocking when he said "come alone". In the end it was one of the first times we've seen Kris actually off put by something via his goosebumps. Hope Toby implements a Hidden boss rush mode that allows you to fight the hidden hard bosses either in a row or you select which one, because I'd love to eventually fight 7 hidden and hard bosses in a row, either with Kris alone or with a party
Something I love with both secret boss themes is the sadness behind them. The World Revolving has this less given Jevil's free-spirited attitude. But with Spamton, it is in full-force. The part where Power of Neo plays has the same scope and grandeur of The World Revolving, but it doesn't feel "liberating" like that one. Rather, it feels like you're being pulled in every direction by strings, forced to do a horrible, uncomfortable dance for an audience that left a long time ago. Jevil is trapped, but he feels free. Spamton is completely trapped despite living out in the open for all to see.
Theres honestly so much going on here and I find something new every time i listen, its ridiculously impressive how Toby not only made a new composition but also managed to include all the rest of his motifs, made it meaningful and relevant, *all without making it cluttered*- this man deserves all the credit possible
This boss was awesome. Its like toby found the perfect balance between unfair and fair. Like I've beaten it 3 times and I'm still considering going back to play it again.
You have the obvious Mettaton connection, the metaphor for Spamton's possession, and the potential Gaster connection all wrapped up in one [[specil]] [[thr3-4-1 SALe]]
Theory: Because Swatch is in play with the creation of Neo, and due to being in the castle's basement, it's safe to assume the Neo shell is an unsaved MS Paint creation.
same...I had a harder time with the cup segment rather than Spamton since I defeated him after 5 attempts while the cup took me 12 times to get past to XD
"someone's coming to answer the phone, hands on the top, pull the strings and make them ring, cant tell u how much it's ringing, someone's coming to answer the phone hands on the top, pull the strings, pull the strings AND TELL ME WHAT YOU ARE REALLY SELLING!"
Think he/it's coming for me, answer the phone I can't explain until you're all alone (he/it) pulls the strings to make them ring Until your heart starts to break-up! Think he/it's coming for me, answer the phone I can't explain until you're all alone It pulls the strings- It pulls the strings it- Tell you(me) what, you big shot!
_Lyrics + structure! I spent an hour on this... this song is insane!_ (Spamton theme) (Ghost fight leitmotif) [wow]4x (phone noise) [Ohmp] [ohmp] NOW'S- NOW'S- NOW'S- NOW'S- [Ohmp ohmp] [ohmp] [ohmp] NOW'S Y- Y- Y- CHANCE BE A BIG (phone noise) [vocal noises] [you gotta be] BIG ------------------------------- (Spamton leitmotif) [Distorted laughter] (phone noise) [Distorted laughter] (phone noise) NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A BIG SHOT BE A BIG- BE A BIG- [then get] SHOT NOW's (pow noise) NOW's (pow noise) NOW's (pow noise) [vocal noises] A BIG [vocal noises] NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A BIG SHOT BE A BIG- BE A BIG- [then get] SHOT NOW's (pow noise) NOW's (pow noise) NOW's (pow noise) [vocal noises] A BIG [vocal noises] (World Revolving + Power of NEO leitmotifs + phone noises) [various distorted vocal noises] Y- [what you] B-BIG [vocal noises] (ghost fight leitmotif) [wow!]4x (phone noise) NOW WE- NOW WE- NOW WE- NOW WE- NOW WE GET TO BE A BIG (vocal noises) Y-Y- [you gotta be] BIG (remixed ghost fight leitmotif) (phone noise) NOW YOU CAN- NOW YOU CAN- NOW YOU- NOW YOU- NOW YOU- NOW YOU CAN Y- [what you] [vocal noises] (dummy leitmotif) (Spamton leitmotif) [distorted laughter] (phone noise) NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A BIG SHOT BE A BIG- BE A BIG- [then get] SHOT [now's your chance to be big shot] BE A BIG- BE A BIG- [then get] SHOT (Power of Neo + Spamtom leitmotifs) (Power of Neo + Spamtom leitmotifs) (dummy leitmotif) _Loops frome here_
someone on tumblr (i think their name is inq-dreams?) put what they thought he was saying during the World Revolving part and I think it fits pretty well “Please Knight, answer the phone, pleaaaase-ha ha ha, all the suspense is making me wait, to tell you how much it’s ringing! Please Knight, answer the phone, pleaaaase-ha ha ha, all the suspense is, all the suspense is, tell me what you’re really selling!”
I'm pretty sure insread of 'all the suspense is making me wait' it's 'pull the strings and make them ring' which I'm pretty sure is flavour text in his fight at some point.
@@Evelyn_onfire i personally think its "Please answer me, please answer the phone" if that's not it, then its "mike" not "knight" (in my opinion) Toby fox doesnt use songs for heavy lore drops, and if he suddenly does, then he would probably have implied the lore drop earlier. Spamton never implies the knight being on the phone (he does mention him, but that dialogue is very limited), its much more possible it being mike because it seems spamton has a great amount of resentment/hate towards him (calling him a criminal and all that)
@@LambTAFFF that is an excellent point, especially when you think about how Gaster was most likely the one who called Spamton in the first place, so if he was saying “knight” it would imply that the knight is Gaster. That is still a possibility, but highly unlikely after what we saw at the end of Chapter 2, with the whole Kris cutscene
This particular version makes it hard to hear the "lyrics" properly (better to listen to on Toby Fox's Bandcamp WITH HEADPHONES) But here's my definitive take on the lyrics, after several headphone listens, vocal isolations, slowing down, etc. Lyrics: (I) Think he's coming for me, answer the phone I can't wait here all alone (could be I can't wait (un)til' you're all alone) He pulls the strings, and makes them ring. Until your heart can't keep breaking up (honestly 50/50 on this, but breaking up is definitely how it ends.) Think he's coming for me (ᵗʰᶦⁿᵏ ʰᵉ'ˢ ᶜᵒᵐᶦⁿᵍ ᶠᵒʳ ᵐᵉ) answer the phone (ᵃⁿˢʷᵉʳ ᵗʰᵉ ᵖʰᵒⁿᵉ ) I can't wait here all alo̶̭̚ṅ̶̝͇̿̇̚e̴̛͕̳̎͐̔͗̈͠-ė̷̖̗̤̀̽̐̏-ȩ̴͎̭͉͕̤̓̏͒̾͑̈́ͅ-ē̸̦̼̯̙̊̊ Pulls the strings and Pulls the strings and (I'll tell you what, you big SHOT) Notes - The I on the first line is not in the audio, I just put it there for grammatical reasons. - The second line is literally impossible to decipher as either of the two options, they both sound the exact same if you say them out loud (the un is inaudible). - The 4th line is the most difficult by FAR, could also be I'll tell you how much it's ringing ('it's ringing' is overlapped with 'breaking up') - Breaking up is phone lingo for losing signal, further connecting it to Spamton himself. - The tiny text in the second verse is the echo.
this and the world revolving's names are capitalized. idk if it means anything, but i feel like since both holders (shadow crystal holders) have it, it must mean something. and if future holders' song names are capitalized, then it HAS to mean something. maybe someone who knows how to look into game files can find a connection.
So he has clips of the all these other fight themes PS Flowey, Napstablook/Mad Dummy, Mettaton Neo and Jevil (and probably more) This guy is a whole bootleg and it fits his character so well 😂
"Please, mike, answer the phone, hands on the top, pull the strings an- pul the strings an- don't you wanna be a big shot?" That's what i think the lyrics are
Spamton neo:did not die with 1 hit.PANIK I can break his attacks with yellow soul shooting exploit: KALM Spamton neo: Gets red face mad and gives you harder attacks: PANIK
Toby Fox makes amazing songs only for them to go to Littleguy Funnyman and honestly? I love that. manlets with a banger theme is something I find hilarious
i feel like one of the reasons people say Jevil's fight is harder than Spamton NEO is just the better gear you can get after chapter 1 and the extra HP you get from becoming LV 2 after sealing the fountain, i feel like Spamton NEO could be even harder with only chapter 1 gear and hp and without S-Action and R-Action
[SPOILERS FOR ALTERNATE ROUTE] I finally beat him on the alternate route today after trying for hours the weekend I got to him and then not even wanting to try for two weeks after. I can't believe how much more difficult that was than his pacifist route fight, especially since his attacks aren't random. At least the music slapped. That might have been the only thing keeping me going.
Yeah I think the fight is much harder by yourself. No Ralsei heals. No powerhouse mean girl. Just you and him. And yeah his attacks aren't randomized but it definitely feels like they hit harder.
why does everyone keeps talking about Gaster like he's some kinda [BIG SHOT]? Come on guys, almost all of your theories start and end with "it's Gaster lmao".
gee it's almost like people think that because half of the songs in the game have some kinda gaster lietmotif (including the secret bosses) thinking that gaster has nothing to do with deltarune is more stupid than thinking he is in it
@@heartbae87 Gaster lietmotif? Where? You do realize Gaster's theme is a very simple melody with only 4 notes. It'll be very easy to mistake certain parts of any song for Gaster's "lietmotif", ESPECIALLY when you reach INCREDIBLY hard, like every single person who immediately just slaps Gaster into any damn theory they make into this game. Sure, no one should rule out Gaster, but it's incredibly stupid and *lazy* to just put all the blame onto that guy. He's low hanging fruit. Just because he's this mysterious creepy person, he's already the reason for all other mysterious creepy ideas. Can't you think of anything better? More clever? Or are you just going to slap the Gaster label onto anything just because it *vaguely* resembles that 4-note song and just because the letter "G" comes up somewhere?
@@AnkaaAvarshina it's a simple motif for a reason, really clever too. You are gonna be hearing those notes in places other than Deltarune and undertale. Fitting with the whole "shattered across time and space" thing
This song actually made the fight harder for me. The music was so distracting that I had to turn the music off to actually beat the fight. Still a bop outside the fight tho
What if Jevil was once like how Spamton currently is at one point (why he got locked in the prison) and after a period of time Spamton removes Gaster and becomes "free" like Jevil is?
Really hope Jevil, Spamton NEO and whoever follows that don’t unlock something real major down the line. Would suck to do full replays over to unlock whatever that is, cuz you HAVE to defeat them before the final boss of each area. 🗿
At least you can go back and beat jevil after you completed chapter 2 by going into your ch 1 save, but from now on I guess you just have to keep the secret bosses in mind so you don't miss them
My immediate thoughts were going to it possibly unlocking something like the Grand Elements did _way_ back in OFF: An alternate, absolutely *_STUPID_* ending. It sounds exactly like the mockery of 100% completionism Toby Fox would do without deviating from Deltarune's "your choices *don't* matter" theme.
I've been stuck on being unable to beat jevil on my first deltarune playthrough, never was able to take out jevil and i was too stubborn to skip them, Only when chapter 2 came out did i give up on jevil then i beat my homeboy spamton neo, went to rematch jevil and won on a new save spamton is a real big shot help innit?
i feel like alot of people sleep on this part 1:35 its personally my fav part of the song with what practically sounds like a electric guitar and kinda a nice flow from the climax part of the song it also kinda carries that feeling of riding down the rails very intense you can feel the tension as you are trying ride along side spamton and stop him
The fact Metaton NEO looks so similar to Spamton brings up a lot pf questions. For example, did Alphys get the idea for Metaton's body from going to the Dark World in Undertale? Who knows.
@@PoipoleBoi i meant in deltarune metaton designed the body in the lab and threw it away, hence why in the dark world its abandoned in a basement. In Undertale i guess metaton gave alphys the design and she made it happen
I Think Neo is Gasters design, Alphys just followed the blueprints, if so, then the pink goo machine will be quite literally be her only original invention
At 3:29 if you listen closely it sounds as if someone (presumably spamtom) is saying something along the lines of "please mike answer the phone, Hands on top, pull the strings and make em ring, don't you want to be free? please mike answer the phone, hands on top, pull the things and pull the strings and, TELL ME WHAT YOUR REALLY SELLING!" Maybe it a little reference to when spamton was no longer a [BIG SHOT] and was calling mike for help, but hey that's just a theory, A GAME THEORY
same but i hear "tell me what your voice is" instead of "tell me what you're really selling" at the end. it's weird because i don't think anybody else has mentioned this. originally i thought it might be referring to gaster in some strange way. it doesn't really fit the lore though
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That was the fight we all wanted for Metaton NEO On Undertale
I remember thinking a day before the release of chapter 2, wish mettaton neo wasn’t a push over
This fight gave me big Dummy encounter vibes
I can hear nabstablooke’s theme and undyne’s theme at some parts
It’s like the perfect amalgamation of the two
If you think about it, Deltarune is technically just a variant timeline from Undertale.
@@ros9764 normal spamton gave me that vibe tbh
I feel like Toby was still sore over how he never used Mettaton neo
Spamton stole "the dream of a lightner" with you search for some dialogues.
@@pros_0143 that dream was probably alphys’s
@@gorilla5558 it was mettaton's.
@@megamike15 wasn’t alphas the one who wanted to build a robot? And alphys is the only one present in deltarune out of the two
@@gorilla5558 The ghost who's implied to have become Metaton exists in Deltarune. We can't see them, but we can talk to them through the door at one of the houses in the town.
Me seeing it's a Neo: EZ
Me seeing that he didn't die in 1 hit: Panik
xD
Didn't you know kid?
[Neo] is famous for it's high defense
Enjoy the fir3works!
@@niftylittlename But... Mettaton Neo just died in 1 hit, so high defense is supposed to be a Lie
@@prehistoricedu1096 well, Chara is just on another level
*Love
@@niftylittlename oh i guess it makes sense
The segment of 0:55 - 1:21 is straight up beautiful to listen to, the Spamton's voice lines, the phone rings, the bits of World Revolving, and Power of NEO/Battle Against a True Hero playing all at once just sounds amazing.
I suppose you could say it crackles with freedom.
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What does his voice lines say? That's been bugging me since I heard the song
@@tpalmer4757 Well, I can hear at the start, "Please Mike(or Knight), pick up the phone," "Pulls the strings makes them ring," and at the end, I could hear repeated "Pulls the strings," followed by "TELL ME WHAT IT MEANS." Not exactly sure on the accuracy of the lyrics, and there's still a few I can't make out, but there's the few that I can hear
@@rocketslime5772 The last line is "TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE REALLY [SELLING]!"
Thanks everyone for telling me it
Jevil was gonna be a tough act to follow, both the fight and the song. Chapter 2 exceeded expectations in both departments
what are you doing here garfield man you're supposed to be buffing patrick
Agreed, maybe except in difficulty, boss isn't that hard (unless you do the snowgrave route, the fights a pain then, but I don't really count it because it's mandatory, not a optional secret boss)
@@localidiot450 Jevil is actually pretty easy, beat him first try yesterday. Yet somehow I'm still stuck on spamton.
@@woerm complete opposite for me lol i beat spamton neo first try but i suffered so much on jevil
@@vecripse Well to be fair I'm stuck on the weird route
WHAT?!?!
IT'S FOR ME?!?!
*god i love this fight*
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@@WolfyRed now its 21 because of me
@@niveth1 NICE
just 4 u
I hate not enough people talk about that- how he just wastes a turn and blasted by hundreds of his own tiny heads. It was such a funny moment in the fight
You know, is kinda ironic how the creepy, mentally unstable scammer is the one who calls you out about turning your innocent friend into a psychopath, specially when you try to call Noelle and he just says "You are still trying to use her?". It really goes to show how horrible the Weird route is when even the crazy character think you are fucked up.
spamton and jevil both have some level of awareness so i wouldn't be suprised if they're insulting you
Or you can just, y'know. Play a normal route?
well not really.
dude also helped us in the route by selling us the thorn ring so we can do the route.
did we even play the same game?
he only started to step in cause we were interfering with his plan to rule that world, if we weren't about to seal the fountain, he probably would've just let kris go
@@junconglin "WHAT? ARE YOU SERIOUS?"
"IS FOR YOU!" in weird route has really different type of joke.
at that moment where you fight with Spamton after making Snowgrave,he probally says "IS FOR YOU" not for kris,but for player.
Jevil was content about his conditions.
But Spamton...
He wanted more...
Jevil didnt wanna be in jail!
@@tomohiro1399 Jevil wasn't in jail, we were. He said so himself.
@@tomohiro1399 he was never in jail he was in his little freedom world he wanted to show his freedom to everyone else which means he wants the world to revolve with chaos
@@ducky_dom9065 Oh dur, youre right. He didn't wanna be lonely though!
Jevil was just kinda bored because he was lonely, Spamton was still PISSED at his fall from fame
Poor dude, I feel bad for him, driven completely insane in trying to look for a way to freedom, lost all his friends, went from top to bottom and got prolly glitched by gaster in the process
With Jevil you felt like you're just caught up in his fit of insanity. With Spamton you feel like you have to stop him... but you also want to save him from his situation and himself. It helps that you get to know him beforehand
Yeah, I couldn't help but feel bad for Spamton, especially when he had those moments of lucidity when he mentioned Mike (a close friend, perhaps?), when you asked him about the Knight (he knew something about the Knight, and was about to say it, his nuttiness took over), and then when you beat him on the pacifist route. When you "free" him in the normal route, he speaks normally, and his words about how he couldn't break his own strings, and then offers to be your strength, hit me good. The poor guy is trapped with some insane lunatic calling the shots in his own head (as evidenced by his Knight and Fear questions in his shop), and in his death, he finally gets a moment of clarity, wishing you the best.
At least Spamton got a peaceful rest.
Any streamer propped by RUclips in a nutshell
Yea he wanted freedom... Jevil has freedom
@@difyouknow is crazy enough to think he has freedom (the outside world is the cell...)
After listening to this for a bit, I can see at least 4 different songs being used here:
- Spamton's Theme ([[BIG SHOT]], need I say more?)
- The Power of NEO (Bearing a BIG resemblance, almost like a knock-off version. And, well, utilizing the Yellow soul like Mettaton would utilize.)
- Dummy! (Pay attention to the few cords played before the song loops. It's the same notes and instrument! Could play into how the strings make him move like dummy to be played with. A body with no soul, maybe...)
- The World Revolving (Connections to Jevil as a secret boss and a being of chaos, something that has become more relevant with the plot. Maybe these are keys to a good or alternate ending?)
Toby said there would only be one ending. Then again, Toby's a liar.
Shopkeep in castle town said its for some kind of item. (Theres 10 crystals in all though lol)
@@kingcamelot1395 this whole chapter if you freeze the enemies proves the oposite
he also said this don't has anything to be with undertale
then again chapter 2 announced in undertale aniversary
The main part of the song uses the same sound as Power of NEO
@@StarFried well, why would he make a game for undertale, when the fans are waiting for the sequel to a game already established, with an easier ending to transition from
When Spamton says "DID YOU KNOW [[NEO]] IS FAMOUS FOR IT'S HIGH DEFENSE?", he isn't lying. You gotta remember the only reason why we think NEO is weak is because in Undertale's Genocide Route, we do 36,912 dmg to Mettaton NEO in 1 hit.
In Deltarune, we don't have that kind of strength. All we have is fight or X-Slash and those do 224 and 586 maximum respectfully.
Or Deltarune is just a negative side of Undertale
a bit of a nitpick, but in genocide you deal around 900000 to 999999 dmg to mettaton neo (im typing this in a middle of an exam lol)
more info: dealing any less than that implies your route is aborted, with mettaton neo saying you're not absolutely evil
*respectively
not respectfully
You're actually wrong. In the game's files Mettaton NEO's defense is actually -40000 even though checking him in battle says otherwise (there are moments where checking someone will give false information like in Undyne's fight)
@@Bonnet9330 He does have the highest hp in the game though, I think about 6x Omega Floweys
Not gonna lie I had more trouble with the tea cup part before the boss than the actual boss 😔
Boss was still fun though, easier don’t mean bad in this regard
Bro fr, Fuck that teacup.
Bro that teacup part was hella cracked lmao, hardest boss right there
Fully in agreement, I died more times to the teacup than spamton
@@brokenxana1545 died 0 times to spamton
@@itsmellslikeupdoginhere5756 died 0 times to spamton (2)
AKA: Death of a Salesman but Willy tries to become God
Sadly that character is forgotten in those archaic books
I WAS LITERALLY THINKING THE WHOLE TIME "oh my god this is just willy loman but he's in the same game as sansundertale"
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@@crowmaster9652 nah my school still requires it and I’m very glad they do, it’s such a great story once you start to understand it
OH MY _FUCKING GOD_
this really hit differently if you play on... *that* route
Oh, yes, it gave me COLD sweats
Making [ FROZEN CHICKEN ] with your side chick.
*”Her…? You’re still trying to [USE] her?”*
the wrost... i just gone to that route first before battling him with help
It doesn't help that (well for me at least) you get four-shot, five-shot while using a defend strategy
Deltarune has managed to find its own identity in spite of its older sibling, UNDERTALE, looming over it, which itself is impressive.
Which makes the fact that this song is like a cursed amalgamation of old Undertale and Spamton feel even more creepy. Almost like a reminder.
“It doesn’t forget.”
deltarune was a concept that came before undertale, it could've been the older sibling
You're right, it's weird honestly. I don't really associate Deltarune with Undertale, never noticed until now.
@@mihairomulus2488 right? almost certain DELTARUNE is going to hit way harder (it kinda already does ??)
Not to mention it’s still an incomplete game at the moment
@@mihairomulus2488 wow. Imagine a fully fleshed out deltarune game with 8 chapters and 10 million au's like Undertale.
As someone who is now a BIG SHOT, I loved this fight and Spamton's story and Arc, he was such a random and sudden foe then made it all the more shocking when he said "come alone". In the end it was one of the first times we've seen Kris actually off put by something via his goosebumps. Hope Toby implements a Hidden boss rush mode that allows you to fight the hidden hard bosses either in a row or you select which one, because I'd love to eventually fight 7 hidden and hard bosses in a row, either with Kris alone or with a party
"Who is now a BIG SHOT". So what did you do?
@@berrydelightdiwizin He found out what was behind [[Hyperlink Blocked]].
Kris of the Lightners - Super Star Ultra True Arena (Damageless) + Final Boss & Credits
When you try to find the theme of "NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO BE" and you find "BIG SHOT" instead: *I came looking for copper and I found gold*
yep :D
Undertale fans try to be funny for 2 seconds (impossible)
*"NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A"
Correction.
and that's exactly how I spoiled on myself the neo fight
@@oatmealman5832 Cringe Culture is dead. Cope.
Player: (Backs out of purchasing keygen for 21,589 Kromer)
Spamton: That wasn't very [[Hyperlink blocked]] of you.
Something I love with both secret boss themes is the sadness behind them. The World Revolving has this less given Jevil's free-spirited attitude. But with Spamton, it is in full-force. The part where Power of Neo plays has the same scope and grandeur of The World Revolving, but it doesn't feel "liberating" like that one. Rather, it feels like you're being pulled in every direction by strings, forced to do a horrible, uncomfortable dance for an audience that left a long time ago. Jevil is trapped, but he feels free. Spamton is completely trapped despite living out in the open for all to see.
"HEY KIDS YOU WANT A MTT NEO FIGHT? HERE YOU GO! TAKE SOME TRAUMA ON YOUR CHARACTER TOO!!!"
Undertale fans: man that Mettaton neo fight was lame I wished it lasted longer
Toby literally years later: I got u fam
Theres honestly so much going on here and I find something new every time i listen, its ridiculously impressive how Toby not only made a new composition but also managed to include all the rest of his motifs, made it meaningful and relevant, *all without making it cluttered*- this man deserves all the credit possible
I love how Toby fox sampled his own songs to make this.
he's done that for all the 180~ songs in this franchise
@@niftylittlename But in this song he literally took the other songs and chopped them up to play back.
@@ElijahRulz only "Dummy!" and "Power of -NEO-", There are instruments he already used, playing different melodies too! so i guess it's a 50/50
God, that world revolving part is just so damn addicting to repeat, I wish we could get a cover in this style of the world revolving!
Hearing all the Undertale references was absolutely phenomenal on Toby’s part.
*Spamton wore his special stilettos for this very occasion
*The audience is screaming
*There is no audience
*The audience is screaming nonetheless
This boss was awesome. Its like toby found the perfect balance between unfair and fair. Like I've beaten it 3 times and I'm still considering going back to play it again.
I wish he was harder, I mean, I beat snowgrave spamton 2nd try, way to easy! It felt so anticlimactic since it was a breeze.
@@honey-hunterslimefanno.3257 alright mr pro gamer
@@grog8507 I can see how that cane of as a bit boasty…
@@honey-hunterslimefanno.3257 alright mr pro gamer
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I love how this song has parts of "Neo-metaton", "Dummy" and "Core" themes from Undertale
Don't forget jevil too..!
Core?
Bruh, you forgot "The World Revolving" you little [sponge]
You have the obvious Mettaton connection, the metaphor for Spamton's possession, and the potential Gaster connection all wrapped up in one [[specil]] [[thr3-4-1 SALe]]
I wish i knew what the words were saying beyond
HEY THERE HEY THERE... BIG BIG SHOT!
but damn that was an incredible fight and INCREDIBLE music💛
He also says
NOW WE MAKE A BIG SHOT
DEALS
EXTRA SPECIAL
NEVER SOMETHING LIKE IT
And the he just repeats the same voice lines
"Now we can be a big shot" is the main line
Here's your chance to be a big shot is one of the lines
I hear "Now's your chance to be a Big shot" as the Main line
Now's your chance to be a big shot
Be a big- be a big- [then get] shot
Theory: Because Swatch is in play with the creation of Neo, and due to being in the castle's basement, it's safe to assume the Neo shell is an unsaved MS Paint creation.
i don't know how i did this fight at first try, but died once at those damn cups before it
same...I had a harder time with the cup segment rather than Spamton since I defeated him after 5 attempts while the cup took me 12 times to get past to XD
"someone's coming to answer the phone, hands on the top, pull the strings and make them ring, cant tell u how much it's ringing, someone's coming to answer the phone hands on the top, pull the strings, pull the strings AND TELL ME WHAT YOU ARE REALLY SELLING!"
very accurate lyrics thank you i've been wondering what that part said
Think he/it's coming for me, answer the phone
I can't explain until you're all alone
(he/it) pulls the strings to make them ring
Until your heart starts to break-up!
Think he/it's coming for me, answer the phone
I can't explain until you're all alone
It pulls the strings-
It pulls the strings it-
Tell you(me) what, you big shot!
1:08 -> 1:22 The only words i seem to recognize are "H E A V E N" and "INDESTRUCTIVE-".
"It pulls the strings and makes them ring"
It appears as flavor text during the fight
The first song is " now's your chance to be a" but this one of the NEO is "big shot" which is the comeplete song.
Every morning I wake up, I say to myself"NOWS YOUR CHANCE TO BE A BIG SHOT!"
If jevil is pulling all of the stops and spamton is pulling the strings to make them ring i want to know what the third guy pulls
Your [HeartShapedObject] right out of your boby
[insert lenny face]
Ayo???
some bitches hopefully
Pulls a fast one
impacts the player party at mach 5
_Lyrics + structure! I spent an hour on this... this song is insane!_
(Spamton theme)
(Ghost fight leitmotif) [wow]4x (phone noise)
[Ohmp] [ohmp] NOW'S- NOW'S- NOW'S- NOW'S-
[Ohmp ohmp]
[ohmp] [ohmp]
NOW'S Y- Y- Y- CHANCE BE A BIG
(phone noise) [vocal noises] [you gotta be] BIG
-------------------------------
(Spamton leitmotif)
[Distorted laughter] (phone noise)
[Distorted laughter] (phone noise)
NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A BIG SHOT
BE A BIG- BE A BIG- [then get] SHOT
NOW's (pow noise) NOW's (pow noise) NOW's (pow noise)
[vocal noises] A BIG [vocal noises]
NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A BIG SHOT
BE A BIG- BE A BIG- [then get] SHOT
NOW's (pow noise) NOW's (pow noise) NOW's (pow noise)
[vocal noises] A BIG [vocal noises]
(World Revolving + Power of NEO leitmotifs + phone noises)
[various distorted vocal noises]
Y- [what you] B-BIG [vocal noises]
(ghost fight leitmotif)
[wow!]4x (phone noise)
NOW WE- NOW WE- NOW WE- NOW WE-
NOW WE GET TO BE A BIG
(vocal noises) Y-Y- [you gotta be] BIG
(remixed ghost fight leitmotif) (phone noise)
NOW YOU CAN-
NOW YOU CAN-
NOW YOU- NOW YOU- NOW YOU-
NOW YOU CAN
Y- [what you] [vocal noises]
(dummy leitmotif)
(Spamton leitmotif)
[distorted laughter] (phone noise)
NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A BIG SHOT
BE A BIG- BE A BIG- [then get] SHOT
[now's your chance to be big shot]
BE A BIG- BE A BIG- [then get] SHOT
(Power of Neo + Spamtom leitmotifs)
(Power of Neo + Spamtom leitmotifs)
(dummy leitmotif)
_Loops frome here_
There's also some words like INDESTRUCTIBLE, HEAVEN, IT PULLS THE STRINGS AND MAKES THEM RING. etc
Omg
@@niftylittlename dont forget "TELL ME WHAT YOUR REALLY SELLING" and "PLEASE MIKE ANSWER THE PHONE"
I think the remixed ghost fight leitmotif is of Mad dummy.
@@SirSaizo and "PLEASE DON'T LEAVE ME ALL ALONE"
Accidentally slept with this on and safe to say I’m running from irs
I made the mistake of going into this fight with the mannequin on I had little to no defense on kris, and god was it annoying.
Tbh, that's really cool
Mannequin to mannequin fight, the battle of legends.
Mannequin actually offers 35% damage resistance to Spamton NEOs bullets.
@@a1joryj then I must suck at dodging-
someone on tumblr (i think their name is inq-dreams?) put what they thought he was saying during the World Revolving part and I think it fits pretty well
“Please Knight, answer the phone, pleaaaase-ha ha ha, all the suspense is making me wait, to tell you how much it’s ringing! Please Knight, answer the phone, pleaaaase-ha ha ha, all the suspense is, all the suspense is, tell me what you’re really selling!”
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I'm pretty sure insread of 'all the suspense is making me wait' it's 'pull the strings and make them ring' which I'm pretty sure is flavour text in his fight at some point.
@@dermo5018 could be that. People also think that instead of saying “knight”, he’s saying “mike”
Knight is probably more likely though
@@Evelyn_onfire i personally think its
"Please answer me, please answer the phone" if that's not it, then its "mike" not "knight" (in my opinion)
Toby fox doesnt use songs for heavy lore drops, and if he suddenly does, then he would probably have implied the lore drop earlier. Spamton never implies the knight being on the phone (he does mention him, but that dialogue is very limited), its much more possible it being mike because it seems spamton has a great amount of resentment/hate towards him (calling him a criminal and all that)
@@LambTAFFF that is an excellent point, especially when you think about how Gaster was most likely the one who called Spamton in the first place, so if he was saying “knight” it would imply that the knight is Gaster. That is still a possibility, but highly unlikely after what we saw at the end of Chapter 2, with the whole Kris cutscene
HELLO?
BASED DEPARTMENT?
IT'S FOR YOU.
IT'S FOR ME?
This particular version makes it hard to hear the "lyrics" properly (better to listen to on Toby Fox's Bandcamp WITH HEADPHONES)
But here's my definitive take on the lyrics, after several headphone listens, vocal isolations, slowing down, etc.
Lyrics:
(I) Think he's coming for me, answer the phone
I can't wait here all alone (could be I can't wait (un)til' you're all alone)
He pulls the strings, and makes them ring.
Until your heart can't keep breaking up (honestly 50/50 on this, but breaking up is definitely how it ends.)
Think he's coming for me (ᵗʰᶦⁿᵏ ʰᵉ'ˢ ᶜᵒᵐᶦⁿᵍ ᶠᵒʳ ᵐᵉ) answer the phone (ᵃⁿˢʷᵉʳ ᵗʰᵉ ᵖʰᵒⁿᵉ
)
I can't wait here all alo̶̭̚ṅ̶̝͇̿̇̚e̴̛͕̳̎͐̔͗̈͠-ė̷̖̗̤̀̽̐̏-ȩ̴͎̭͉͕̤̓̏͒̾͑̈́ͅ-ē̸̦̼̯̙̊̊
Pulls the strings and
Pulls the strings and (I'll tell you what, you big SHOT)
Notes
- The I on the first line is not in the audio, I just put it there for grammatical reasons.
- The second line is literally impossible to decipher as either of the two options, they both sound the exact same if you say them out loud (the un is inaudible).
- The 4th line is the most difficult by FAR, could also be I'll tell you how much it's ringing ('it's ringing' is overlapped with 'breaking up')
- Breaking up is phone lingo for losing signal, further connecting it to Spamton himself.
- The tiny text in the second verse is the echo.
this and the world revolving's names are capitalized. idk if it means anything, but i feel like since both holders (shadow crystal holders) have it, it must mean something. and if future holders' song names are capitalized, then it HAS to mean something. maybe someone who knows how to look into game files can find a connection.
nows your chance to be a is also capitialized
gaster always speaks wingdings in all caps. both jevil & spamton's themes are in all caps, plus they both most likely have met gaster.
1st song. NOWS YOUR CHANCE TO BE A. 2nd song. BIG SHOT
connect them and you get
NOWS YOUR CHANCE TO BE A BIG SHOT
both characters also seem to speak in all caps
it's probably an empheisis on how crazy the bosses are
Imagine walking outside and this starts to play
So he has clips of the all these other fight themes
PS Flowey, Napstablook/Mad Dummy, Mettaton Neo and Jevil (and probably more)
This guy is a whole bootleg and it fits his character so well 😂
"Please, mike, answer the phone, hands on the top, pull the strings an- pul the strings an- don't you wanna be a big shot?"
That's what i think the lyrics are
I don't know if I like the fact that this is the closest thing we'll likely ever get to an actual mettaton neo fight or not.
Spamton neo:did not die with 1 hit.PANIK
I can break his attacks with yellow soul shooting exploit: KALM
Spamton neo: Gets red face mad and gives you harder attacks: PANIK
0:55 literally punched me in the face with nostalgia the first time i heard it
*He* pulls the strings and makes them *ring*
I feel [Freedom] from this song.
But there was NEVER any [Freedom].
Of course Toby Fox knows how to make a fetch quest interesting.
Then:Mettaton NEO:Death
Now:Spamton NEO:It’s Alive
This is literally the best song
This song makes me think of the rocket ride at Hershey Park.
0:55 why does spamton sounds like Peter Griffin
he had a collab with jevil on a discord call and jevil turned on his peter griffin voice changer
And he looks like Mikey Simon...
Dude literally mentioned big shot in the show
slaps way harder then it should
the fights way harder than it should
Toby Fox makes amazing songs only for them to go to Littleguy Funnyman and honestly? I love that. manlets with a banger theme is something I find hilarious
NOWS YOUR CHANCE TO BE A [[BIG SHOT]]
YOOOOOO ITS DA [[BIG SHOT]] HIMSELF HOLY CUNGADERO
holy cra;p it is THE real Spamton Trademarked!
You know who else has anger issues, lives in the dump, and has a very familiar piano pattern in their fight theme??? MAD DUMMY!!!!!!!
The entire damn Deltarune fanbase after seeing "BIG SHOT" for Splatoon 3's "Salmon run":
i feel like one of the reasons people say Jevil's fight is harder than Spamton NEO is just the better gear you can get after chapter 1 and the extra HP you get from becoming LV 2 after sealing the fountain, i feel like Spamton NEO could be even harder with only chapter 1 gear and hp and without S-Action and R-Action
I would love a boss fight in Chapter 3 where its Jevil And Spamton teaming up to try and kill you, with both of their mechanics merged into One Fight.
[SPOILERS FOR ALTERNATE ROUTE]
I finally beat him on the alternate route today after trying for hours the weekend I got to him and then not even wanting to try for two weeks after. I can't believe how much more difficult that was than his pacifist route fight, especially since his attacks aren't random. At least the music slapped. That might have been the only thing keeping me going.
Yeah I think the fight is much harder by yourself. No Ralsei heals. No powerhouse mean girl. Just you and him.
And yeah his attacks aren't randomized but it definitely feels like they hit harder.
That because you're alone. Without the party members, you can't do much. You only gived 1 turn like any RPGs would.
0:54 [[Strings]] AND [[C0d3]] MIGHT BREAK MY [[Phones]] BUT [[Hyperlink Blocked]] WILL NEVER HURT ME!!
whose here after one of the new salmonids is named "BIG SHOT"?
Undertale: Cures depression, gives it back, then rips it away again.
Deltarune: PTSD to MTT and Sans.
Referances at 1997 big shot soda america ads
i like how him and the funny jester
have an attack that cover the entire screen
and it make white flash and both of it was it final attack
the song of dying over 10 times to a schizophrenic who can rip out his own heart
Since when was there a Kris fight?!
@@redsphinx113 im talking about spamton but good enough i suppose
why does everyone keeps talking about Gaster like he's some kinda [BIG SHOT]? Come on guys, almost all of your theories start and end with "it's Gaster lmao".
Yeah lol, kinda annoying that every Secret boss character was theorized as Gaster.
gee it's almost like people think that because half of the songs in the game have some kinda gaster lietmotif (including the secret bosses)
thinking that gaster has nothing to do with deltarune is more stupid than thinking he is in it
@@heartbae87 Gaster lietmotif? Where? You do realize Gaster's theme is a very simple melody with only 4 notes. It'll be very easy to mistake certain parts of any song for Gaster's "lietmotif", ESPECIALLY when you reach INCREDIBLY hard, like every single person who immediately just slaps Gaster into any damn theory they make into this game. Sure, no one should rule out Gaster, but it's incredibly stupid and *lazy* to just put all the blame onto that guy. He's low hanging fruit. Just because he's this mysterious creepy person, he's already the reason for all other mysterious creepy ideas. Can't you think of anything better? More clever? Or are you just going to slap the Gaster label onto anything just because it *vaguely* resembles that 4-note song and just because the letter "G" comes up somewhere?
@@AnkaaAvarshina spelling mistake cope ratiod mald
@@AnkaaAvarshina it's a simple motif for a reason, really clever too. You are gonna be hearing those notes in places other than Deltarune and undertale. Fitting with the whole "shattered across time and space" thing
This song actually made the fight harder for me. The music was so distracting that I had to turn the music off to actually beat the fight. Still a bop outside the fight tho
it helped me a lot because i was just jammin so much i didnt even need to pay attention to the game lmao
dont u know NEO if famous for it high DEF?
yeah that line got me to Metaton
I think this is my favorite theme from both Undertale and Deltarune so far
Idk if someone hear it too, but in 1:21 i can hear jevil's laugh
Now I wish we had a phase 2 that just made the fight the touhou difficulty Lunatic
What a masochist....
What if Jevil was once like how Spamton currently is at one point (why he got locked in the prison) and after a period of time Spamton removes Gaster and becomes "free" like Jevil is?
Really hope Jevil, Spamton NEO and whoever follows that don’t unlock something real major down the line. Would suck to do full replays over to unlock whatever that is, cuz you HAVE to defeat them before the final boss of each area. 🗿
At least you can go back and beat jevil after you completed chapter 2 by going into your ch 1 save, but from now on I guess you just have to keep the secret bosses in mind so you don't miss them
@@ragnello_ I’m hoping you can do that for every secret boss.
My immediate thoughts were going to it possibly unlocking something like the Grand Elements did _way_ back in OFF: An alternate, absolutely *_STUPID_* ending. It sounds exactly like the mockery of 100% completionism Toby Fox would do without deviating from Deltarune's "your choices *don't* matter" theme.
From what the shopkeeper says castletown it's more likely going to be an item.
Seems like it would equate to a powerful weapon or armor rather than a special ending
Now you can say kris is COLD-hearted
such a banger
i like how there is all of this "spam whispering" going on and its stereo
0:55 is a mix of mettaton neo and jevil
the fact this doesnt loop perfectly make me cry
I find it like it suddenly glitches, and spamton himself is very incoherent so I believe it fits well
I've been stuck on being unable to beat jevil on my first deltarune playthrough, never was able to take out jevil and i was too stubborn to skip them, Only when chapter 2 came out did i give up on jevil
then i beat my homeboy spamton neo, went to rematch jevil and won on a new save
spamton is a real big shot help innit?
i find it best to play on switch. That control stick is PERFECT for dodging bullets
i feel like alot of people sleep on this part 1:35 its personally my fav part of the song with what practically sounds like a electric guitar and kinda a nice flow from the climax part of the song it also kinda carries that feeling of riding down the rails very intense you can feel the tension as you are trying ride along side spamton and stop him
The fact Metaton NEO looks so similar to Spamton brings up a lot pf questions. For example, did Alphys get the idea for Metaton's body from going to the Dark World in Undertale? Who knows.
I think it was an abandoned design by metaton in the computer lab or something
@@needlebodkin7693 but how did alphys come up with the idea if Spamton is the original carrier?
@@PoipoleBoi i meant in deltarune metaton designed the body in the lab and threw it away, hence why in the dark world its abandoned in a basement. In Undertale i guess metaton gave alphys the design and she made it happen
@@needlebodkin7693 OH SHI-
I Think Neo is Gasters design, Alphys just followed the blueprints, if so, then the pink goo machine will be quite literally be her only original invention
I can't stop listening to this. Help!
I like to play [Games] listening to [This] and instead of concentrating on the [Game] and [Die]
The Song Format of the Crossover Episode
me when the doctor says i have exactly 15 minutes to live
literally
0:40 to 0:55 is probably my fav part of the song
See you all when this becomes nostalgic :)
At 3:29 if you listen closely it sounds as if someone (presumably spamtom) is saying something along the lines of "please mike answer the phone,
Hands on top, pull the strings and make em ring, don't you want to be free? please mike answer the phone, hands on top, pull the things and pull the strings and,
TELL ME WHAT YOUR REALLY SELLING!" Maybe it a little reference to when spamton was no longer a [BIG SHOT] and was calling mike for help, but hey that's just a theory, A GAME THEORY
same but i hear "tell me what your voice is" instead of "tell me what you're really selling" at the end. it's weird because i don't think anybody else has mentioned this. originally i thought it might be referring to gaster in some strange way. it doesn't really fit the lore though
@@jasondeng7677 interesting
i always thought he was saying "down in here, be a big shot"
What if you wanted to go to heaven but god said [[Hyperlink blocked]].
Somebody should make the tank model in left for dead into spamton neo
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This chapter sure likes bass in its themes
My god.. this guy is... [[BIG SHOT]]
1:48 i love this fake end and then *BIG SHOT*
*KRIS, DID YOU JUST FIRED A [BIG SHOT]!?*