Great review and yes the Duratracs get super loud even just 5K miles into wear. And I don’t get the thinking behind this truck. If your going to call it an X then why not give an option for less bumper like the Chevy and at least 33s.
Yeah, I agree with ya there. I don't really see the point in the AT4x, because you're paying more for a less capable truck. You have a worse approach angle, and less ground clearance. I get that it's the more "luxurious" of the two, but I don't really see much that would make me buy this over the ZR2. However, if other people want it, they can go ahead lol.
Because they are thinking realistically. GMC buyers just want to look the part while presuming they’d be able to conquer something off the beaten path. Not judging, it’s no different from Range Rover and high end jeep buyers. If true trail riding is the goal, why would someone start with a base product that is $10k higher? (Or any new vehicle for that matter, but I digress).
@@9663mu because 1) DuraTracs looks the part and 2) they are cheap given Goodyear’s vendor relationship and orientation to OEM volumes and/or had a bunch leftover from the prior gen at4 / trail boss and/or had a minimum commitment amount in their contract with Goodyear. But mostly I suspect to look the part.
I believe you’re incorrect about wheel and tire options for the ZR2. It is only offered with an 18” wheel as well, machined face or gloss finish. The only tire option for it is the GY wrangler territory.
I had a 21 at4 carbon pro and traded it in for a ultimate Denali with the super cruise. I am so glad I did because this Denali smokes my old at4 in ride and interior.
Great reviews! I understand it’s the “luxury” version of the zr2 but with should of got a better off road bumper. The yukon got a better front bumper for approach.
I like the styling of the ZR2 and the AT4X both are super nice looking trucks and appear to be very capable as off roaders. That being said I don’t think I would spend 78,000 or 88,000 for anything that I would loose my mind over if it got all scratched up and or busted up doing stupid things off roading no matter how careful you are something is going to go wrong sooner or later.
too expensive to drive. big tires kill MPG and diesel is now 40% higher price than regular gas. Diesels going bye bye across all the brands because of the green energy kick
GMC dropped the ball in a few places on this truck (compared to the ZR2), but none more restrictive than that front bumper. That would get destroyed doing even moderate off-roading. They should have found a way to integrate the cut-outs that you see on the ZR2.
MAN that tire noise really comes through in the video. For the extra money and no other tire options you'd think they'd do a better job of noise isolation in the cabin.
Thank you for the good quick review. I have a 2019 AT4 and I recently test drove an AT4X and it does drive waay better and interior is much nicer. I considered a ZR2 but cooled seats are a must for me. Looks wise i think the ZR2 has a better look then the gmc. I really wish GM would start putting pano roofs on their premium trucks
@@02hreblue30 Hmm 🤔 not sure how this is a fact. I have read that it’s glass instead of metal and makes no difference in structural rigidity. Not really an issue for me I’m good with it without but it should be more safe to not have a pano sunroof in the event of a roll over accident.
I don't think the at4x still has a G80. I believe you are referring to GMs brake torque vectoring, which they don't advertise much, but works after wheel spin.
Ar4 has g80 the x has front and rear e lockers. But zr2 has bigger tires better approach angles zr2 slightly better off-road but the At4x is higher end interior. Hiwever I own a new zr2 and it is really upgraded in interior just not as muck as at4x
Zr2 has 33” tires, AT4 x 32”, zr2 has steel bumpers with better approach angles. Zr2 slightly better numbers off-road but AT4 x has more luxury like massaging seats, more speakers, trim stuff.
Can't kill something when you aren't even getting built lol. I heard GM is about to pause production on these because they can't get the parts to even assemble a few.
I would go with the ZR2 and save the $10K and/or spend some of that towards wheels and tires, suspension lift, etc. Also, in my opinion the ZR2 name has more cachet than AT4X so I don't think this GMC can claim more prestige than the Chevy.
I’m starting to wonder if these truck manufactures had Goodyear develop these Goodyear territorial MTs for the Ford Bronco and ZR2 smaller turbo motors. The territorial 285/70/17 tires are only C load rated while the Duratracs are considerably heavier, but I would think more durable Offroad. The big tell is in the weight. The territorial they listed at 45 pounds. The same size Dura Trac weighs 54 pounds. A massive difference if your trying to get better few economy
Would really like know how much the AEV steel front bumper costs as a dealer installed option on the AT4X. May as well go all out and get the Bison? Would that steel front bumper fit the ZR2?
For everyone complaining about Duratracs and ground clearance just wait for 2023. ALL 2023 X’s actually get the winch capable AEV bumper from the AEV edition. They also ditch the Duratracs on the X for the Goodyears that are on the ZR2.
Looks exactly like the AT4 on the outside. They should have given it a different look. Agree the interior is nice but not $12k more than the AT4 nice. Rather have the AT4 with the diesel.
Yeah it’s a beautiful truck but I cannot justify the price difference. They will keep the at4 but after a few years this will be discontinued because not many folks will want to pay this much for a truck they would take off road and then have to spend more money to lift it and get rid of those awful Duratracs.
So it's a Tremor/Rebel "competitor" (even though it's superior to both) and it has massage seats, Google automotive, an insane offroad camera system, a badass Vortec 6.2L V8, and the GMC nameplate which carries a lot of weight on its own (if you know anything about trucks). This is a practical overlanding beast instead of the far-from-practical, inexplicably popular, dune running nonsense that Ford and Ram have released. Supercharge the AT4X/ZR2 to achieve 750 hp or retune and implant the upcoming C8 vette ZR1 powerplant for about 1000 hp and nothing could compete. But we all know they won't which kinda makes me hate GM just a little lol. All because it would require reconfiguring a couple assembly plants...
It’s not called a Vortec, the new generation LT motors are called ecotec. Either way, Ford’s 3.5 EB bests the GM 6.2l trucks in terms of power and capability and it’s been proven time and time again. Even their 2.7l ecoboost outperforms the 6.2 which is pathetic. The only thing this truck is superior to Ford is in the bells and whistles but even GM hasn’t figured out how to do panoramic moonroofs like Ford and Dodge. They’ve got lots of catching up to do to even compete with the rest.
This truck doesn't compare to the ZR2, it compares to the Denali and it's for people who want a Denali but with more off road capabilities and less chrome.
Yeah kinda. A basic 2 WD work truck is pushing $40,000 with taxes. I remember when 40 grand bought a brand new Boxter. But that’s 25 years ago so this is where it’s at now.
Tell your dad thanks for taking a long long hard look at where the extra $10,000 is. If they don’t produce any more Nissan Titans past 2024, I’m gonna start taking a long hard look at a Rebel or the AT4X.
The ZR-2 wins hands down. 10K less, smaller rims, a better front bumper, and quieter tires makes it a no brainer. I still think that tailgate is the most overhyped useless feature on a truck.
I thought the same about the tailgate until actually owning one. Now I love it having actually used it. Only downside is obviously not being able to use the step feature If there’s anything in your receiver. Not an issue for me since I only tow a couple times a year so mine is usually just put away
@@joshtavenner3073 I would be worried about the cost of repairing one if I damaged it. I really like that they put the step in the bumper. I do think that is useful.
@@chadsteele1 hahaha. The same could be said of literally allllll trucks. Guess we should all just drive scooters and take the bus cuz we don’t “need” personal vehicles. 🤡
Watch us tow and tackle mud in the Silverado ZR2 right here - ruclips.net/video/N4aWZ2_Ep-o/видео.html
Great review and yes the Duratracs get super loud even just 5K miles into wear. And I don’t get the thinking behind this truck. If your going to call it an X then why not give an option for less bumper like the Chevy and at least 33s.
Yeah, I agree with ya there. I don't really see the point in the AT4x, because you're paying more for a less capable truck. You have a worse approach angle, and less ground clearance. I get that it's the more "luxurious" of the two, but I don't really see much that would make me buy this over the ZR2. However, if other people want it, they can go ahead lol.
Because they are thinking realistically.
GMC buyers just want to look the part while presuming they’d be able to conquer something off the beaten path. Not judging, it’s no different from Range Rover and high end jeep buyers.
If true trail riding is the goal, why would someone start with a base product that is $10k higher? (Or any new vehicle for that matter, but I digress).
@@upshifter5316 then why give them super loud Duratracs ? Why not something AT but much quieter ?
@@9663mu because 1) DuraTracs looks the part and 2) they are cheap given Goodyear’s vendor relationship and orientation to OEM volumes and/or had a bunch leftover from the prior gen at4 / trail boss and/or had a minimum commitment amount in their contract with Goodyear.
But mostly I suspect to look the part.
@@daniel0atk agreed mate. Plus the AT4X is around 82k loaded. We’re getting into Raptor and TRX territory now
Thumbs up for an honest review
Awesome review. GMC truck is the best looking truck over all.👍🇨🇦
Would love to see a 6 foot bed option and the baby duramax from the zr2/at4x
I believe you’re incorrect about wheel and tire options for the ZR2. It is only offered with an 18” wheel as well, machined face or gloss finish. The only tire option for it is the GY wrangler territory.
I had a 21 at4 carbon pro and traded it in for a ultimate Denali with the super cruise. I am so glad I did because this Denali smokes my old at4 in ride and interior.
Great reviews!
I understand it’s the “luxury” version of the zr2 but with should of got a better off road bumper. The yukon got a better front bumper for approach.
That’s the first thing I see when I look at the front is that the ZR2 had the cut outs for the front tires while this get the low hanging bumper! 😕
I like the styling of the ZR2 and the AT4X both are super nice looking trucks and appear to be very capable as off roaders. That being said I don’t think I would spend 78,000 or 88,000 for anything that I would loose my mind over if it got all scratched up and or busted up doing stupid things off roading no matter how careful you are something is going to go wrong sooner or later.
That's what I say I'll pay that kind of money don't want to be in mud or in the woods
Would love to see the diesel in this.
No, no it doesn’t. Not in any way. Ability, clearance etc. ZR2 ALL Day!
The zr2 needs 35 stock tires, an eco diesel and a 36 gallon tank.
100% agreed. Would buy in a heartbeat
Definitely no eco diesel, also 35's is just more mass to rotate.
too expensive to drive. big tires kill MPG and diesel is now 40% higher price than regular gas. Diesels going bye bye across all the brands because of the green energy kick
100٪ agree on the bigger tank
These truck frames must be really solid...looks like it flexes n twists quite a bit ⚡
GMC dropped the ball in a few places on this truck (compared to the ZR2), but none more restrictive than that front bumper. That would get destroyed doing even moderate off-roading. They should have found a way to integrate the cut-outs that you see on the ZR2.
I paid that much for a truck I sure wouldn't want it in mud and playing with it
@@williamcorleu5839 why buy an off road truck, if you're not gonna off road it?
MAN that tire noise really comes through in the video. For the extra money and no other tire options you'd think they'd do a better job of noise isolation in the cabin.
I like the GM trucks but I don’t like how the front end are box shape. Making it less visible driving forward when in the off road trail.
They really need to drop that duramax in the offroad variants
all diesels are going bye bye with the current globalist green energy
Thank you for the good quick review. I have a 2019 AT4 and I recently test drove an AT4X and it does drive waay better and interior is much nicer. I considered a ZR2 but cooled seats are a must for me. Looks wise i think the ZR2 has a better look then the gmc.
I really wish GM would start putting pano roofs on their premium trucks
The ZR2 does have cooled seats. The Trailboss doesn’t.
@@josephkraft5640 really? I didnt see that option when i was building one on the chevy site
@@rubencastano6771 Yes. No pano roof but ventilated seats for sure.
pano roofs decrease overall rigidity of the truck. its just a fact.
@@02hreblue30 Hmm 🤔 not sure how this is a fact. I have read that it’s glass instead of metal and makes no difference in structural rigidity. Not really an issue for me I’m good with it without but it should be more safe to not have a pano sunroof in the event of a roll over accident.
That blue, with the black grill and wheels is sharp
The issue with the at4x is they kept the same suspension. I feel for the luxury version it should of had higher end offroad suspension
I don't think the at4x still has a G80. I believe you are referring to GMs brake torque vectoring, which they don't advertise much, but works after wheel spin.
Ar4 has g80 the x has front and rear e lockers. But zr2 has bigger tires better approach angles zr2 slightly better off-road but the At4x is higher end interior. Hiwever I own a new zr2 and it is really upgraded in interior just not as muck as at4x
Zr2 has 33” tires, AT4 x 32”, zr2 has steel bumpers with better approach angles. Zr2 slightly better numbers off-road but AT4 x has more luxury like massaging seats, more speakers, trim stuff.
All correct information just comes down to price preference.
Great Review! Great discussion.
Can't kill something when you aren't even getting built lol. I heard GM is about to pause production on these because they can't get the parts to even assemble a few.
GM needs to make a wide truck like the raptor or trx like a true Baja offroad truck, this compares to the new f150 tremor or the rebel gt imo
I would go with the ZR2 and save the $10K and/or spend some of that towards wheels and tires, suspension lift, etc. Also, in my opinion the ZR2 name has more cachet than AT4X so I don't think this GMC can claim more prestige than the Chevy.
I’m starting to wonder if these truck manufactures had Goodyear develop these Goodyear territorial MTs for the Ford Bronco and ZR2 smaller turbo motors. The territorial 285/70/17 tires are only C load rated while the Duratracs are considerably heavier, but I would think more durable Offroad. The big tell is in the weight. The territorial they listed at 45 pounds. The same size Dura Trac weighs 54 pounds. A massive difference if your trying to get better few economy
Great review guys! Your sunglasses match the truck! 😎
Doesn’t the ZR2 have better approach angle?
The AEV version, looks good…. But there prices are nuts 🥜 and it needs 35s at least
kills gas mileage.
@@02hreblue30 if your buying a off-road truck for gas mileage….. something is wrong with you
Would really like know how much the AEV steel front bumper costs as a dealer installed option on the AT4X. May as well go all out and get the Bison? Would that steel front bumper fit the ZR2?
ALL X’s actually get that AEV bumper for 2023. Not just the AEV version. They haven’t done a good job getting that info out.
Which one better Duramax or 6.2
6.2.
It is not worth $10k over the ZR2!
For everyone complaining about Duratracs and ground clearance just wait for 2023. ALL 2023 X’s actually get the winch capable AEV bumper from the AEV edition. They also ditch the Duratracs on the X for the Goodyears that are on the ZR2.
Everyone lol. Like 2 people watching this video will actually afford to buy one of these. Mostly complainers who can't afford it anyway
Love this channel
I have a 2020 AT4. I am not sure this price difference is worth it.
between the 2 i would get the gmc cause i like the hood you can see over,you dont have the 2 fake hood scoops to try and look over.
The AT4 is available with the 3 litre diesel, what's the difference between the AT4X and the AT4?
AT4x has a much better suspension compared to the AT4, also at4x has front and rear e lockers where AT4 has the g80 limited slip rear axle only
My Duratracs are super quiet on my Tacoma TRD PRO.
sure buddy
That blue metallic gives me wood 🪵
Hope gmc put skid plates covering the fuel tank not like CHEVROLET
I thought the AT4X would get you a winch from the factory?
For 2023 you can.
Front locker is not worth getting the AT4X. Just get the AT4 with the duramax and save 15K.
Looks exactly like the AT4 on the outside. They should have given it a different look. Agree the interior is nice but not $12k more than the AT4 nice. Rather have the AT4 with the diesel.
They should make the HD AT4 X
It’s basically a ZR2 with massaging seats and slightly different interior
Diesel option?
they are going bye bye across the board with green energy. Dodge already leaving and ford too
Flow tie makes the Chevy better hands down
🏆🏆🏆👍🇺🇲🙏.
Thank you for sharing
Yeah it’s a beautiful truck but I cannot justify the price difference. They will keep the at4 but after a few years this will be discontinued because not many folks will want to pay this much for a truck they would take off road and then have to spend more money to lift it and get rid of those awful Duratracs.
Eh if u have the money get what u want lol .both great choices 👌🏽
Dream truck. 🎉
At that price it still not trx or raptor.
Wow very nice truck
So it's a Tremor/Rebel "competitor" (even though it's superior to both) and it has massage seats, Google automotive, an insane offroad camera system, a badass Vortec 6.2L V8, and the GMC nameplate which carries a lot of weight on its own (if you know anything about trucks). This is a practical overlanding beast instead of the far-from-practical, inexplicably popular, dune running nonsense that Ford and Ram have released. Supercharge the AT4X/ZR2 to achieve 750 hp or retune and implant the upcoming C8 vette ZR1 powerplant for about 1000 hp and nothing could compete. But we all know they won't which kinda makes me hate GM just a little lol. All because it would require reconfiguring a couple assembly plants...
It’s not called a Vortec, the new generation LT motors are called ecotec. Either way, Ford’s 3.5 EB bests the GM 6.2l trucks in terms of power and capability and it’s been proven time and time again. Even their 2.7l ecoboost outperforms the 6.2 which is pathetic. The only thing this truck is superior to Ford is in the bells and whistles but even GM hasn’t figured out how to do panoramic moonroofs like Ford and Dodge. They’ve got lots of catching up to do to even compete with the rest.
@@rayshawnrayborn6624 YEP
This truck doesn't compare to the ZR2, it compares to the Denali and it's for people who want a Denali but with more off road capabilities and less chrome.
Is the affordable truck dead?
Yeah kinda. A basic 2 WD work truck is pushing $40,000 with taxes. I remember when 40 grand bought a brand new Boxter. But that’s 25 years ago so this is where it’s at now.
Tell your dad thanks for taking a long long hard look at where the extra $10,000 is. If they don’t produce any more Nissan Titans past 2024, I’m gonna start taking a long hard look at a Rebel or the AT4X.
Hey daddy o did you share any of that Heineken with with Steve o . Just kidding I know Canadians never 2 track and imbibe
The ZR-2 wins hands down. 10K less, smaller rims, a better front bumper, and quieter tires makes it a no brainer. I still think that tailgate is the most overhyped useless feature on a truck.
I thought the same about the tailgate until actually owning one. Now I love it having actually used it. Only downside is obviously not being able to use the step feature If there’s anything in your receiver. Not an issue for me since I only tow a couple times a year so mine is usually just put away
@@joshtavenner3073 I would be worried about the cost of repairing one if I damaged it. I really like that they put the step in the bumper. I do think that is useful.
tailgate is pure hideous ugly with lots of stuff to break and squeak. Wish they had option to get regular tailgate
Why would I buy either the zr2 or the gmc when I can buy the ram power wagon for way cheaper then both of those it even comes with a winch
a dodge? thats why
The AT4X Can't Killed The ZR2 Because The ZR2 Is More Cheaper Because It's The Most Off-Road Worthy Over The AT4X In My Opinion🇺🇸.
more cheaper?
@@02hreblue30 Yes Because The AT4X Is 8000 Dollars More Expensive.
6.2? Really? Either GM is not telling the truth or my dealer is not honest. I've been told the 5.3 is all that's available. I hate that GM lies.
GM sold Silverado more then Sierra because $10,000 more for GMC…
10,000 dollars for more percieved "luxury". Thats what i call a joke on the consumer, better known as a ripoff.
you will need the extra for the hideous gas mileage
GM is losing “off street” cred with no truck that can compete with the Raptor and TRX.
They dont need one, most ppl who buy those don't actually use them for the way they were intended.
@@chadsteele1 hahaha. The same could be said of literally allllll trucks. Guess we should all just drive scooters and take the bus cuz we don’t “need” personal vehicles. 🤡
@@Austden why do you think they’re so expensive people pay 90k for a grocery getter with a bed so they keep selling them for ludicrous prices
I hear that GM may be pulling out of North America to avoid declaring bankruptcy.
LOL.
Looks better than the Zr2 but not worth 10K. Maybe if it had a supercharger.
Z D not zeeee .. u are Canadian are you not
I really hope so the Chevy is not getting very good reviews
What are you talking about, goof? People like you just say stupid things without thinking before saying them.
I'll bet you that truck .. that the Earth is flat.. time to wake up
Not for 10 grand just a name
No it's not better than the ZR2. Simple answer.
Spoiler alert, it’s the same truck
Hell NO! There's nothing x about it 🤣
I don’t dislike the video but I dislike this truck 🛻
The zr2 is one of the ugliest trucks ever and the tremor and at4x look a thousand times better
Zr2 is the way to go chevy