The M3 Max MacBook Pro Blew My Mind...
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- The 16" M3 Max MacBook Pro is an impressive piece of technology bringing more power, cores, and new technology into the mix. That being said, how does it stack up to it's predecessors? And is the hype justified?
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00:00 Introduction
00:14 Space Black
00:50 CPU Performance
02:18 GPU Performance
05:22 Is M3 Max A Big Improvement?
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EDIT: At 03:20 I made a mistake in the graph, the M3 Max was 52 seconds and the M2 Max was 69 (nice) seconds.
Hello, I am sahil. My interest in coding, web development. i want to become a good developer but i have no laptop and i am not able to buy it. i am belong to poor family. so please can you give me any good laptop in your treasure. And may I be grateful to you all my life
My Asus Scar 18 i9 13980HX Cinebench score 32160points multi thread your score 27000 much lower
@@s.k.sheikh233 Hi
All of these chip upgrades after M1 Pro/Max (even M1 tbh) seems to cater more and more to a smaller group of professionals that will actually need that extra performance bump or to those that haven’t made the jump from Intel-based Macs. You can basically look now for a used and decently spec’d M1 Max Macbook Pro on the market and that thing will do more than well for the next few years.
From a M1 device I would never consider buying a new machine. From an intel? Yes!
I will not miss my 16 inch Macbook pro 2019 with i9. Was getting hot even just because its plugged to a monitor because this activated the graphics card
Yes but will get macOS updates for fewer years which will reduce its longevity
Thanks for the video!
I'm planning to upgrade from my 13" M1 MBP and I'm very curious about the video editing performance differences of the M3 Max.
Are you planning to compare differently configured M3's?
I'm very curious about whether upgrading from 30 to 40 GPU cores or getting more unified memory will make a bigger difference in heavy video editing (color grading and using effects) in DaVinci.
I know its a very specific question, but I'd be very happy about a general video showing the video editing performance of the M3 you showed in this video.
Thanks again!
Thank you for making your first video focus fully on the benchmarks; because that's what many people were waiting for
Nice review man, many thanks !
When Apple launched the M1Max MBP, it was a total revolution. I had the best i9 MBP and changing it to a M1Max was tremendous, everything was damn faster, without the fan noise !
And now, the M3Max is nearly 2x faster ... that's insane
I'm really impressed to see how much the GPU has improved this generation!
Great video review! I just got my new MacBook Pro 16 inch M3 Pro, and I love this! I upgraded from the 2019 15 inch MacBook Pro, and I am very impressed.
What about 8k video editing and file rendering speeds? that is what I'm interested in
thxxxx for thiss!!!
Awesome video and looking forward to the next one. Are you getting above 140 in Cinebench 2024 for single core? There is a beta version of Blender that enables RT support by default. Also could you please benchmark Baldur’s Gate 3 against that monster gaming laptop?
I have the baseline M3 Max and I love it. I've been holding out on upgrading to the M series chips. However, my 2019 16 inch was starting to have hardware issues, so I figured why not. I was not expecting this to be more chunkier than my 2019.
I am dying to know the brand of that laptop stand on your desk...
As a python dev, I'm excited for the 30% CPU gains over M1. M3 15" MBA would be the sweet spot for me. Just 8 more months to go 🤞
Doesn’t make sense to have a m3 air with the current line up. People can just pay more for the pro models.
You always have the best reviews!! Can I pass on a small bit of constructive critisism. Listening to your voice over on $12,000 ATC studio monitors and then switching to my Genelec 1032C's can I suggest using a de-esser in post when you use the microphone you are using in this video. It seems the mic you are using is really sedative to sibilance especially S & Ts. Most editing software comes with a De-esser, but if your doesn't you can gran the Plugin Alliance Lindell 902 really cheap. Sometimes when you edit on smaller speakers or headphones sibilance can be dampened by them but on a full range speaker. On my MacBook Pro speakers it's fine because of the camping of the speakers but on everything else in the studio it's really noticeable. Just a small touch of De-essing and your Voiceovers would be perfect. Your EQ and compression settings seem to be fine. Cheers!! I hope to see some creators compare the new M3 models to the original M1 models since that seems to be the target buyers Apple is going for!! Have a great day!
Kitty-roll is the best B-roll. ❤
I hope someone reviews the M3 Pro soon! I think it’s the most interesting chip, and it’s the efficiency cores that I want specifically.
Looking forward to DAW/audio benchmarks
It would be great to see a comparison of the 14 core vs 16 core M3 Max, I can't seen to find any!
Been waiting for your review, especially with regard to Blender. Thank you!
Those results are not representative of actual render times because he failed to set up Blender properly. Divide those number graphs by 5 and that'll be about what you can expect.
High power mode is on the 14 inch M3 Max Series now. Just a heads up for anyone who hesitated to get a 14 inch for that reason.
I also think the Tech Chap showed the 14-inch MacBook Pro staying within 5-10% the 16"'s performance in most tests, which with the increased power draw of the M3 Max is really good
High power mode doesn't mean the machine is more powerful ^^
It just means that the fan will spin faster on big renderings ... so in that precise case of very intense usage on a long time, this mode will reduce throttling, and the user will gain .... few minutes of rendering.
Saying that differently : this mode is useless for 99% of users 🙂 But it's still a good news to find it on the 14'' model
Hey Which one Would you Suggest for blender and after effects? m3 Mac or Legion Laptop?
How the light hit it really does influence how dark it looks. Sometime it looks more dark grey that light black. I am though still more than satisfied with the 16 inch M1 Pro I am writing this comment on as I will benefit more from the rolling timeline now announced with FCP 10.7 than would I benefit from going for my more than fast enough computer to the fastest m3 pro max
In this day and age there still render times, how long will it be till they are instantous I wonder.
Hello! In the next video, could you do some blender benchmarks compared to your 4090 laptop
Please make a video comparing Lenovo Legion 9i vs Apple M3 Max Macbook Pro running Blender (Ray Tracing).
Review your desk setup
Please cover this laptop for heavy music production..
great video.....
waiting for the comparison with the lenovo....
New tech faster than old tech? unbelievable
😂😂😂
It was kinda unbelievable on the intel era tho
2016 mbp was slower than the 2015 it replaced 😂
Every time they release a Mac “ The fastest most powerful MacBook ever”
Like duh..
Question is how much more powerful
The difference between 13th and 14th gen intel processors is negligible. So yeah, 1.8x faster in 10 months is kinda unbelievable
Would you do M3 max gaming fps versus M3 pro please?
Just a tip, Idk if its just me but my man needs a de esser to reduce the harshness of the S's and sh sounds
Man can anyone show scrubbing/playback on Final Cut with luts or plugins? Everyone just shows export times but its rare that people show REAL WORLD USE with these new devices.
The same for After Effects : most reviewers are testing the speed of rendering, or the most important thing for AE is how fast is the software is when using it. I spend 95% of my work day using AE, and 5% rendering my comps (and that can be done in background)
What’s the blender version with 3:13 result? Only blender 4.0 beta supports HWRT so it’s impressive if it’s older version and only other improvements
I was using version 3.6, not the 4.0 beta. So those results are just pure raw performance without any raytracing. I'll definitely be checking out the raytracing support in a more in-depth video though.
love to see performance of the M3 in regard of single Core performance, say in simple iterative python or C++ Small Programs
Blender is already using hardware raytracing in cycles rendering right now, metal API already handled it right out of the box so that Blender does not have to put effort into supporting Apple's RT hardware, so your benchmark in blender is actually reflecting the performance increase that the RT hardware provides over the M2 Max which doesn't have it, that is why the performance uplift in 3D is much higher than in video rendering workflow. The reason why the M2 Max is so much faster than the M1 Max in GPU is because of the scaling issue with the M1 Max that they fixed in the M2 Max, and the reason why the M3 Max is so much faster than the M2 Max is because of hardware accelerated raytracing being added, so the two generation's performance uplift is due to completely different reasons, and definitely not just because they are using more transistors. To be honest this level of performance is still disappointing compared to Nvidia; other than the efficiency advantage, the M3 Max can't really even beat a 4060 mobile in 3D rendering and AI due to Nvidia's superior hardware RT implementation and Tensor cores, and it couldn't beat the 4090 mobile in raw compute because it simply couldn't match the sheer size of the 4090 mobile.
I wonder if the ray tracing hardware is on each GPU core? Or if it is in its own cluster? Does the ray tracing hardware transistor count scale up with more GPU cores? Lots of details still to unearth about these new chips!
Of course those results are disappointing, because he didn't configure Blender to take advantage of the GPU at all! It would be like buying an Nvidia card, then not using it for anything other than painting the desktop. I have the lower end M2 Max with fewer cores than the charted example that took 24.1min. When set up properly for Metal GPU compute the result is actually closer to 4.5min, about 1/5th the time. I don't have an M3 Max to test, but if these results scale relatively well, that could potentially mean ~2.5-3min which is actually quite decent for a laptop chip on battery. High end Nvidia GPUs are still significantly faster, but not nearly as embarrassingly so as suggested in the video.
blender beta supports hw accelerated ray tracing on M3 chips compare it with optix
Brother, we are expecting a gaming review compared to the intel i9. Do it!
I wish to know if the base MacBook Pro m3 is better than the M1 Max (cause they’re the same price now).
M1 Max would be better, but battery life m3 is better
You should do Cinebench 2024 the Successor to Cinebench r23 it was announced 2 months ago it also lets you test the GPU something Cinebench r23 can't do.
oh... you did use Cinebench 2024 but only for GPU not CPU, you used r23 for CPU why not use Cinebench 2024 for CPU also
Will the base model m3 max 16 inch be enough to do 4k video editing
With music production
A M1Macbook Air base model (8/256) is able to do 4K editing ...
But editors usually work on high end laptops or workstation, because in a professional workflow you need to do more than just cut and edit footages on a timeline : color grading, effects, etc, that can require huge amount of CPU power, GPU power and RAM
To answer your question, we (and you) need to know what you precisely do when editing. The answer car result from a M3 Macbook Pro to a full-options Mac Studio Ultra or Macbook Pro M3Max. All theses can do 4K editing with ease, but depending on what you really do, you may need a M3, M3Pro, M3Max, 16GB or RAM, or 32, or 64 ... or more, 1TB storage, or 2TB, or 4TB
@@alexandrevery want to produce 4k videos mainly around yt and make boom bap 90s beat I think I will get the m3 max 16 inch might as well go all out and have a speced out laptop 40 gpu oh yes
@@stitchyrichie The M3Max is more than capable of doing that. It's a total beast that is dedicated to strong tasks like heavy motion design, vfx, very big 4k or 8k projects with huge amount of effects, plug-ins (denoise, etc) .. it's barely a workstation. Who can do more can do less so you will be ultra-comfortable with this machine, but I think a good M3Pro with lots of Ram and storage (at least 2 or 4GB) would do the job pretty well, for less bucks.
Great video lots of interesting info. Keep it up 👍. PS. Don’t be offended but I found the background music tacky and distracting.
Considering the M1 ultra was a bit of a disappointment and didn't achieve the doubling of performance over the M1 Max everyone was expecting, its not surprising the M3 Max is faster.
Theres a reason why Apple wants everyone to compare it to the M1 because compared to the M2 the performance increase isn't exactly the second coming of Apple silicon people were lead to believe 3nm would be.
I have the serious question why I should consider an iMac or mac studio or mac pro, if I can have a comparable performance on the go and just plug it into an external monitor. For a mac studio or mac pro I would need an external monitor anyway to use. And the iMac is weaker than a macbook pro.
I would use the extra money to enhance the ram or ssd of the macbook pro.
Desktop computer became obsolete for me long time ago.
I bet this is great for watching youtube and browsing the web
I play Minesweeper on it
Is it faster than 8gb ram 2015 MBP ?
Was the after effects benchmark supposed to be flipped? It said the M2 performed better than the M3.
Whoops, my mistake. Swap the numbers around for that one.
Do you need M3 Max CPU to run Emacs (to edit code) on this laptop? Is it any good?
Yes indeed. Multicore performance is proportional to the number of cores. If the battery life is the same or better, then ding ding ding... you have a winner.
I feel like for my new workstation for blender i will still go with a 4090 setup. All of my ecosystem is in Apple so the switch is difficult but necessary…Apple just can‘t catch up 3D wise
It’s no longer true. Or at least won’t be once the next gen M3 ultra rolls around. Looks as if this will be in the ballpark of 30 series GPUs which is plenty for 3D.
I’m using my M1 Max professionally for 3D rendering with Blender every day, even with Cycles.
Maybe you’re bad at optimising scenes if you’re not managing to make it work?
What about current ray tracing support? Where's the 3DMark Solar Bay benchmark? (In full-screen/game mode). Only Blender 4.0 seems to automatically use MetalRT so it's unknown if BlenderBench (3.6) uses it as there's no option to enable it from the launcher. As for using the intentionally sub-optimal Cinebench R23 (which uses the version of Embree which Intel hobbled by turning off the 2nd NEON SIMD) - that should be banned, Cinebench 2024 seems more honest.
It'll be interesting to see how things look after the optimisations roll out & reviewers get up to speed.
I’m currently working on a full comparison including Cinebench 2024 and Blender 4.0. Only had the M3 Max for a few hours before making this video so it’s just a very quick first look.
You didn’t get Space Black??
I spend the first section of the video talking about the Space Black color, did you even watch?
my laptop with 13900HX has 29K in Cinebench in Balanced mode and 32k in full power mode lol
I have a 13900k lol, I get what you are saying. Still, people love Mac OS. And honestly Windows sometimes pisses me off so bad. I am happy Mac OS exactly exists.
Please add benchmark test for doing video upscaling using program like Topaz Video AI as well to see how these new M3 MBPs perform.
For reference, RTX 4090 renders the Barbershop scene in 43.77s, M3 Max with it's 14min 45s is very impressive, especially in the laptop, but it's not a Blender workstation by any means.
Uffff thanks for the headsup
for the price of an M3 Max, you can get a PC that is:
2x faster CPU
3x faster GPU
For this reason it will be beyond dumb to buy a MacBook.
Yeah, my PC renders that scene in about 43s too, but it's pretty obvious he doesn't understand how to set up Blender for Mac.
Just to give an idea of how off his results are, I have the lower tier M2 Max, not the top end one he listed which showed a render time of 24.1 minutes. My binned M2 Max renders the Barber Shop scene in just over 4.5 minutes. Still a ways off from my PC, but not the preposterous 30x slower in those graphs.
Do you think it is worth the extra 500 bucks for the 40-core GPU and 12GB more ram? I plan on keeping this for at least 6 years. I do video and photo editing.
Also, what is your opinion on the 14 inches' thermal situation? Since the chassis stayed the same since M1 and now the M3 is even more demanding, would the 16 be a better option considering longetively of the chassis and the battery? For the 14, I can comfortably stretch to even 64gb ram but the thermal situation had me reconsidering.
If you're keeping it for 6+ years and doing constant video and photo editing - yes, spend the extra $500 if you can afford it.
Can't comment on the 14" thermals, too early to say. I did see some thermal throttling with M2 Max in the 14" chassis, so I personally would go for the 16".
Just remember Apple considers its products vintage after 5 years and obsolete after 7 years so plan accordingly.
Bro , would you do 14 m3 max review ? If yes, i would like to ask you to make one test for me, if possible!
people should stop comparing the old tech to the new one,of course the new chip will outperform the old one
This isn’t the old chip. The M1 Ultra is a desktop chip.
me with m1 Mac air base
why does every reviewer just show benchmarks when the thing people really care about is everyday use. For example performance in editing timelines or working in a large photoshop file etc. Still cant find a reviewer who does this.. sigh
Actually I do that in every review video. The M3 Max was only released 12 hours ago, these things take time.
They will come later this week or early next week as the Macs were only released on Nov 7! The early reviews are mostly fluff pieces, though one or two were more in-depth.
Mention it's 16 inch.
I guess Moar's law isn't dead, only our wallets
I think the M4 will be the real killer. The M1 did have slow GPU performance vs PC. Finally the M3 is improving in that area. I think the M4 will close that gap significantly.
M5 will be absolute beast. Base M5 will beat M3 max
@@sanaksanandan M5 sounds like a pain to wait >.< but hopefully it's true and not nerfed with less cores for the regular vanilla base chip.
@@sanaksanandan M6 will be where its at, but I think I'll wait for the M7 to be safe.
Davinci Resolve is not included in the tests for a reason - m2max is 2 times more productive than m3max in Davinci Resolve
Really? That seems like an oddity.
and 2004 Intel Celeron is 44x times more productive than M2 ?
yeah)@@scott-richardson
Great performance for a laptop computer, but when compared to a *low* *cost* Windows desktop PC, M3 Pro and M3 Max get blown away.
Windows PC is half the cost, and double the performance.
If you enable RT in blender, the difference gets even bigger.
Geez
I don’t think its faster than my Mid-2015 15” MacBook Pro running OCLP Sonoma so I am not gonna upgrade to M3.
It's an insane device, but pointless for at least 70% of people considering buying this laptop.
Specialy if you are into Blender or that kind of tools. :(
True! This is a niche device aimed at a tiny few people with big bank accounts and the need for the best performance in certain workflows. The base M3 MB Pro 14 or the upcoming M3 MB Airs are for the majority.
It's a mobile workstation. No need to say more.
@@alexandrevery a mobile workstation? This means an average gaming Windows laptop is a “mobile workstation,” I guess 😮
Good
Instead of comparing Apples to Apples and nothing else, why not also compare the performance to some top of the line Intel desktop CPUs?
A Max variant of Snapdragon will curbstomp it at 60% the cost
Honestly, it’s not worth the upgrade. My M2 Max is still kicking butt. The only difference I see is the color.
3:14 honestly these are pathetic results and really need to be shown next RTX cards. A 2080 (5 years old) takes 2mins 26. People about to throw down over 3k for one of these machines for blender should know what a bad deal they’re getting.
Why does every channel review the MAX?
Almost everyone buys the M3 Pro chips
So? Of course it has to be faster than 5 year old chip. Stop overreacting.
A 5 year old chip? What on earth are you talking about? All of the chips I mentioned in this video are less than 18 months old lol...
My m1 MacBook Air can beat it 🐱
You speak like an Australian.
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16 inch… macbook… might as well carry a gaming pc around
I would love to see that guy on a train unpacking his backback with a gaming pc + monitor + akkupack + peripherals inside. 😂
I would very much want u to review the Lenovo yoga pro 9i.
Eagerly waiting for that content .
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