[Try4ce] Hey everyone! I wanted to leave a word of caution here to Super Scope owners (or prospective Super Scope owners). This was originally in the video, but just took too much time to say, and it's nothing more than my own speculation. As I said in the video, I stupidly bought two Super Scopes, but there's actually another reason this is good for me other than that the first one didn't come with the sight assembly. That's because the second one has a malfunctioning receiver. The Super Scope itself works just fine with it, BUT controllers plugged into port 1 will not function correctly. Most buttons and Dpad directions simply don't work, although Start is mapped to B for some reason. For a while, I thought this was just how things are. But then, how would you enter hard mode codes for games like Battle Clash and Metal Combat? Or play Yoshi's Safari's 2-player mode with a controller? I tried this with three different controllers on two different consoles. The controller was simply unusable in any game if the Super Scope receiver was plugged in. Finally, I tried the first receiver (the yellowed one)... and controllers work normally with that one! Is this a common issue, or am I the only person in the world to have encountered this? I can't find any discussion online that would suggest it is a known issue. HOWEVER! When I first got that second Super Scope, I did try to use its receiver with a controller extension cable. It didn't work. But when I plugged it directly into the console, it seemed to work fine. But now all these years later, I can't help but wonder if that somehow damaged that receiver. I asked a couple of people if that made any sense, and they said the extension would have to be wired REALLY WRONG for that to be likely. So it might be nothing, but we just don't know for sure. Either way, I'm definitely not trying a controller extension with the receiver that I know works normally! So unless you're feeling adventurous or have the means to safely test it for yourself, I'd say it would be prudent to avoid using controller extensions with the Super Scope.
Hmm as a guy who bought the Super Scope on launch day and still owns it today, I have to say I've never encountered such an issue. However, I only played four games: Super Scope 6, Battle Clash, Metal Combat and Yoshi's Safari.
I had gotten one for my birthday i hardly ever used it the lack of games and the one that came with it sucked i remember claiming it was like a 3 in 1 deal the best light gun I had ever used was a cheap toys r us all in one system that predates nes there were couple of games it came with but the one i recall was of a hunted house it was real video that was shot at a place and the sprites or ghost overlaid that you had to shoot wish i could remember the name
As a kid, the size of the Super Scope definitely hampered my enjoyment with it to a degree - I was too small to use it! My mom had to be on shootin' duty while I used the controller for Yoshi's Safari.
For the battery issue: A lot of that comes from the 90's era where certain kinds of batteries (especially rechargeable) didn't hold up under higher current loads like the Super Scope. No kidding, I had several old rechargeable batteries completely die (unable to be recharged) because of the current loads from it. Batteries in 2021 are a lot better so those issues from almost 30 years ago should be mostly resolved. Just remember to turn it off when it's not in use.
I gotta say. Your hosting skills are crazy good. when it comes to reviewing tech. You have the ability to switch on hype and humour in a video rather than sticking to one or the other like soooooooooooo many other creators and you know exactly WHEN to do it.
This was a REALLY fun episode! I also love how Try's finally getting to his woodpanel room dreams, and seemingly found a way to do socially distanced co-op Super Scope sessions!
Metal Combat is an awesome game. While you said it was relatively unchallenging that is only because you are effectively playing on the easiest story mode until you unlock what the game calls 'Real Mode' after beating the game once. Can be insanely challenging on the hardest difficulty and great fun. One of the better SNES games I ever played and definitely one of my top 5.
You guys read my mind. Only a few days ago, i was thinking that I would love to see a Super Scope video from you, as no one covers games like this channel does. Thank you! 🙏 I recently set up a Wii Remote with Bluetooth on my MiSTer, so this is extremely relevant to me.
Our house was one of the weird ones. The SNES package we bought, brand-new in the early 90s, was the Super Scope bundle. Sadly, I never knew of any games that supported it so I only ever played the bundled six-game cartridge. I found that the best way to play games was to keep my glasses on - this was, of course, after my myopia had been diagnosed - and keep both eyes open. I could still tell where I was aiming through the pinhole, but I could also take in the whole screen at the same time.
These games were fun for our entire family for at least 7 Christmas parties and additional between the years. Fond memories of those Christmas dinners before and after the super scope 6 fun.
I was one of the weird kids that had a Super Scope. Got it & Battleclash for Christmas. It was awesome but definitely would wear your arms out having to hold it up for gameplay sessions. I wish I had kept it!
Awesome video, both for the nostalgic retrospective and for the informative reviews of games I hadn't even heard of! I came here because I randomly mentioned the Super Scope 6, which I had some fond memories of but I really only played two of the six minigames. Battle Clash was quite underrated - I tried to show my friends how to use the charged up shots (or Laser Bolts, I think the game calls it?) but they didn't get it and just kept asking why their 'pea shooter' wasn't doing any damage. 😅 And that Lemmings 2 easter egg?! That was a lesser-known game in my collection, and I had no idea I could have been blowing off steam by blasting the poor little guys! Anyway... great introduction to your channel.
I had no idea the color palettes would change between Super Scope and Non-SS modes. Shows how much i’ve played my Super Scope… That i’ve owned for 15 years…
This was great! Seems like you had a lot of fun making this. Was surprised and delighted by the games that had hidden light-gun features, especially the 'seperate gunner and driver' feature in the lambo game!
Battle Clash and Metal Cimbat are taking me back to '95!! I got the Superscope and both of those for Xmas! Was when they couldnt move those things fast enough! LMADO I LOVED those games!
I love still having a CRT for zapper games! Got a ton of them myself! But I've never had the Super Scope, since it was so big and unwieldly for me to use. But I've always wanted one! I think the hidden function to blast Lemmings is fantastic!
Yoshi's Safari uses the same soundfont that TOSE used in many of their other SNES games. The track 'Grand Bridge' is very similar to the menu music of Super Goal! 2. Much of the percussion rhythms are almost copy and paste.
I always thought about making a video about the Super Scope like this but never had the time or resources. Great work, and thanks for making it happen!
Defending John Conner in the truck is what tripped me up all the time too... Both in the arcade AND the SNES version. When I played with my brothers? We'd finish the game more often than not.
I bought a Super Scope as a kid. I quickly learned to keep my head level while looking through the sight, after getting a lovely pain in my neck the first time playing. But Battleclash is seriously one of the reasons I wanted to get a crt, I loved that game.
I grew up with Battle Clash, Metal Combat and Super Scope 6. Oddly enough though when my dad brought home the gun, he brought it home with Metal Combat, not the pack in title. It wasn't until later that i got the other two. Its honestly difficult to express how cool this thing was in the day. A lot of people coming over to see it expressed their amazement at it being wireless.
OMG yes, that would be amazing. I wonder if a romhack has been made to support it? I’ll have to look into that. Edit: It doesn’t look like it from my few initial searches. Maybe it would be too complicated to implement something like that since I imagine it would have to be programmed from scratch. 😕
It would be pretty cool to have it as a side Co-op mode where one player control the character while the other shoot. Or a defense mode where you just shoot. But as it is, the game require much more skill for control AND shoot to work as a Super Scope title imo.
It wouldn't make any sense... the game is balanced around not being able to shoot while moving, while also trying to incentivise dodging as little as possible until absolutely necessary. Now something like Lethal Enforcers could definitely work with it...
I've been waiting for an episode like this because I've never been sure if I ever played a Super Scope game back in the day. After seeing them all on display here, I'm now %100 sure I never played any. I know my best friend had the scope when we were little but I guess I never tried it out lol
I remember the NES Zapper feeling so amazing in the hands, I used to like just holding it and playing with it even when I wasn't playing Duck Hunt. After experiencing that and the Konami Justifier later on the Genesis I was shocked as a kid when I belatedly found out (I never had a SNES) that the Super Scope was the sequel to the Zapper. I had thought that it looked big, ugly, and cumbersome compared to the perfection that was the Zapper, I didn't understand why they didn't just make a Zapper II.
I never had a super scope but I do know that battery technology has improved quite a bit since the early 1990s. That would explain why the super scope doesn't drain batteries nearly as fast as it did before.
Great episode! I've never really given the Super Scope a try outside of some years ago while trying to pair up receivers back when I worked retail but this really made me want to.
Maybe just me, but I like the Super Scope 6 cart a lot. Grew up playing SS6 and Yoshi's Safari on our system at home. The whack-a-mole was a favorite in the house and I liked all the LazerBlazer modes (Confront being the favorite of those modes). The co-op mode in Yoshi's Safari was fun and one of the ways my sister and I figured out getting along back then. True that SS6 wasn't really a big cohesive game or anything and was more of a tech demo for the Super Scope, but it certainly got a lot of play at home growing up. I'll have to keep my eyes out for some of these other games, though!
I hope you have had the chance to play hard mode on Metal Combat. It gives you a new st and it changes how many charges your guns get. Very fun. Great video
Love Battle Clash. Bought a Super Scope about 20 years ago just for that. Since then picked up a few other. But Battle Clash and the sequel are the best games for it. I always thought it was a shame they didn't make a new game in the series for the Wii.
There are dev documents that say to not call the wii remote the "nunchuck" anywhere and that the wii can never be used with a trigger too much like a rife, this superscope using a front button instead of a trigger and rear button on the top shows that after the Zapper Nintendo was super scared of appearing too gun like.
4:13 Everybody who has used an actual scoped rifle should know this, but for those new to using real firearms: DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS WITH A REAL SNIPER'S RIFLE. While it may seem intuitive to put your eye up against the scope's eyepiece, on a real rifle you MUST have some space between the rear of the scope and your eye. Because on a real gun, the recoil you get when pulling the trigger will force the scope violently into your eye socket.
Yea, I didn't put my eye up to the edge of the sight either. Also have glasses, which made that hard anyway. Though, was able to see through the scope well enough and usually kept both eyes open anyway just to see the whole screen easily.
I have a Super Nintendo, I have a CRT and people assume I bought the TV for light gun games but that thought never even entered my mind as I don't even know any SNES gun games
X-Zone is definitely one of my personal favorite Super Scope games. By the way, the title of the game reminds me of a certain crossover game for the 3DS...
I actually prefer the MegaDrive (Genesis) version of T2: the arcade game. Not that it is better per se, I just prefer the music from Matt Furniss. Try, nice to see you have a C64 "breadbin". Any chance of a Commodore episode? I'd love to see MLIG perspective on the Amiga 👍😃
I bought one a couple months after its release. I was 12yo and I had to mow lawns to get and save the money but I got one without having to ask my parents for the money. By the time I was 15 I had two. Bought one used. I loved playing the pack-in game with my father. Lots of fun memories.
I actually had a Super Scope as a kid but the only game I ever got for it was Super Scope 6 so I hardly ever used it. It got relegated to the closet fairly quickly and then sold in a garage sale a few years later. Obviously wish I would have held onto it.
Great video! I have always thought about getting a Super Scope even as far back as the 90s, but just never got around to it. After developing a love for peripherals via Bemani and lightgun games on the PS and PS2, it'd be nice to go back and explore it a bit!
If you cut parallel/serial you should be able to use this controller on the game M.A.C.S. I didn't tried with the bazooka itself, but lots of reproduction guns.
Super scope 6 has some of the most nostalgic music I'm blessed to have played it before I was 5 it's definitely not the best game . Yoshi safari is fun and metal combat falcon's revenge also has the best music to listen to
Out of curiosity, as it has a tracking box on top of the TV, does it work more like an air mouse, than a tradtional light gun? It's how Philips light gun on the CD-i worked.
@@mylifeingaming Ah, so it's basically a wireless version of the Zapper, I suppose something that bulky already would be even more of a hinderance with a cable attached. Oh, it was called the "Nintendo Scope" in Europe, never found an explanation why.
I had one of these! It was a ton of fun. The batteries seemed to last forever for me so I never had that issue, and I played in a tiny room about as far from the screen as you or even closer with zero problem. It was a solid made thing.
I had one of these! I saved up my money as a kid to get it, and mostly just played Battle Clash with it. Battle Clash was pretty fun, but then like no other games came out for it that I could find back then
Thank you for this! This is perfectly timed for me as I just got my hands on a free Super Scope (though it's missing the eye piece) and was wondering what games to get for it. Videos like this that show off games meant for a specific device like a light gun are a great idea. Now I just wonder if there are any Super Famicom only Super Scope games worth importing.
@@mylifeingaming Yeah, I wondered about that, all the lists I can find online just list the games mentioned in this video and make no mention of other regions.
I ended up with 2 guns as well lol. Had one as a kid and once I began buying vintage games I got a comaptible TV and an Super Scope 6. I only ever had Battle Clash so now I can get more of the games I decided to get them all. Srill working on them but I am getting there. I only recently found out The Hunt for Red October is SS6 compatible. Im amazed that Operation Thundetbolt sells for as high as it does. I wasnt even aware of the Lethal Enforcer handgun-light gun. I have a few in my aights right now. They sell for a bit also but not as bad as a complete Suoer Scope 6.
I had one. It was pretty rad. Ran through batteries quickly though. Got the most run as a toy to shoot imaginary bad guys. The battle robot game was dope and the yoshi game was AWESOME.
Fantastic Video! I'm a big Lightgunfan since the GCon45 when I turned 18. My parents never allowed me to buy a Lightgun before. But I made up for it and now I own 4 Super Scopes and 4 Battleclashes. I only knew one classmate in the 90s who own a Super Scope, but I was not a big fan of it cause to the size. We liked the Menacer for Mega Drive much more.
Thank you for this video. I couldn't think how to describe these to my wife, so I Google searched SNES Bazooka and found your video. This video is so underviewed! Thank you again gah! I can't wait to pickup one of these off eBay when I can haha!
Whenever I was a kid, I purchased a loose cartridge of Yoshi's Safari, thinking it was another platformer starring Yoshi instead of Mario. Needless to say I was quite disappointed when I realized I couldn't play it.. About 8 years ago when began playing my old games again, I decided to purchase a Super Scope to finally try it after all those years. It was fun, but unsure how soon I'll play it again. Great to see this relative oddball peripheral come back to light! Thanks for the video!
3:04 I don't know if I'm imagining things, but batteries seem to have become a lot more efficient than 20 or 30 years ago. Or maybe it was because back then, I was pulling batteries out of the TV remote half the time...
Oddly enough, my dad had a Menacer for the Genesis back in the day, and the one game he and I used it for was T2. I wish he still had it - I'd probably sell it, but he just tosses things.
I got a Super Scope for Christmas as a kid and I was the talk of the neighborhood! For some reason I still have it, and the box it came in... just missing the rubber end of the sight. (I wear glasses, so maybe that's why I took it off and it got lost). It's just something that I've never sold or tossed, it keeps getting slipped in with all my moving boxes every time I go somewhere else.
I remember being really disappointed back in the day. I found it uncomfortable and it strained my eyes. Also I never got any other games apart from the pack in. But definitely would like to give it a test again with some of these other games and reassess it again.
I got the Scope along with my SNES as a kid, i thought it was cool although I only owned SS6, which was a very limited set of games. The only other game I'd even heard of that was compatible with it was Yoshi's Safari, which I wasn't going to pick when I had games like Terranigma or Secret of Mana to choose from instead. The batteries did drain like crazy, especially if you forgot to turn it off. SS6 was also a missed opportunity, Blastris could've been a lot better. I'm glad to see you like X-Zone, I tried it a while ago on my SD2SNES with my scope on a whim and couldn't put it down, the hard mode is insane and very intense, I was just waving my scope around trying to get everything. I kind of wish it had some way for the player to raise a shield or something to protect against hitscan minigun weapons because hard mode at some point becomes almost impossible, I still think it's the best scope game though.
I got a Super Scope for $10 on clearance at KBee Toy Store probably around 95, the compatible games were all $10 or less as well at that point so I bought Battleclash. The experience was great for the first 6 months, all the games that were compatible were easy to rent from video stores, I would rent them and beat them in a weekend pretty easily. Most games were very enjoyable. Then I started to have calibration issues, I think the censor inside the "transmitter" started to drift, eventually I couldn't even get any shots to register, so at about the 1 year mark after buying it, I think I just threw it in the trash and called it a day, eventually got rid of my copy of Battleclash since I wrote off the peripheral as cheap garbage with no intention of purchasing another one. I was the only person I knew who owned one, so I can't speak to anyone else's experience with it. I'm always surprised to see one working almost 30 years later because of how quickly mine had deteriorated.
We had the scope back in the day and it didn't work. So we took it back to the shop and picked up the Street fighter 2 game and console pack. It was a great Christmas.
[Try4ce] Hey everyone! I wanted to leave a word of caution here to Super Scope owners (or prospective Super Scope owners). This was originally in the video, but just took too much time to say, and it's nothing more than my own speculation.
As I said in the video, I stupidly bought two Super Scopes, but there's actually another reason this is good for me other than that the first one didn't come with the sight assembly. That's because the second one has a malfunctioning receiver. The Super Scope itself works just fine with it, BUT controllers plugged into port 1 will not function correctly. Most buttons and Dpad directions simply don't work, although Start is mapped to B for some reason.
For a while, I thought this was just how things are. But then, how would you enter hard mode codes for games like Battle Clash and Metal Combat? Or play Yoshi's Safari's 2-player mode with a controller? I tried this with three different controllers on two different consoles. The controller was simply unusable in any game if the Super Scope receiver was plugged in. Finally, I tried the first receiver (the yellowed one)... and controllers work normally with that one!
Is this a common issue, or am I the only person in the world to have encountered this? I can't find any discussion online that would suggest it is a known issue. HOWEVER! When I first got that second Super Scope, I did try to use its receiver with a controller extension cable. It didn't work. But when I plugged it directly into the console, it seemed to work fine. But now all these years later, I can't help but wonder if that somehow damaged that receiver. I asked a couple of people if that made any sense, and they said the extension would have to be wired REALLY WRONG for that to be likely. So it might be nothing, but we just don't know for sure. Either way, I'm definitely not trying a controller extension with the receiver that I know works normally! So unless you're feeling adventurous or have the means to safely test it for yourself, I'd say it would be prudent to avoid using controller extensions with the Super Scope.
Hmm as a guy who bought the Super Scope on launch day and still owns it today, I have to say I've never encountered such an issue. However, I only played four games: Super Scope 6, Battle Clash, Metal Combat and Yoshi's Safari.
I've had two different Super Scopes w/different receivers and never had any issue with Player 1 using a controller.
You make the wood grain aesthetic look pretty good. I normally find it repulsive.
I had gotten one for my birthday i hardly ever used it the lack of games and the one that came with it sucked i remember claiming it was like a 3 in 1 deal the best light gun I had ever used was a cheap toys r us all in one system that predates nes there were couple of games it came with but the one i recall was of a hunted house it was real video that was shot at a place and the sprites or ghost overlaid that you had to shoot wish i could remember the name
As a kid, the size of the Super Scope definitely hampered my enjoyment with it to a degree - I was too small to use it! My mom had to be on shootin' duty while I used the controller for Yoshi's Safari.
Wow! Thanks for the mention, glad my Wiimote video was able to help you. Really wish the 16bit consoles had more lightgun games.
Do I have to have played the first five Super Scope games in order to understand the story in Super Scope 6? Or is it pretty stand alone?
[Try4ce] Most fans consider it to be more of a reboot, actually.
No spoilers!
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For the battery issue:
A lot of that comes from the 90's era where certain kinds of batteries (especially rechargeable) didn't hold up under higher current loads like the Super Scope.
No kidding, I had several old rechargeable batteries completely die (unable to be recharged) because of the current loads from it.
Batteries in 2021 are a lot better so those issues from almost 30 years ago should be mostly resolved.
Just remember to turn it off when it's not in use.
I gotta say. Your hosting skills are crazy good. when it comes to reviewing tech. You have the ability to switch on hype and humour in a video rather than sticking to one or the other like soooooooooooo many other creators and you know exactly WHEN to do it.
This was a REALLY fun episode! I also love how Try's finally getting to his woodpanel room dreams, and seemingly found a way to do socially distanced co-op Super Scope sessions!
Socially distanced? Go outside man…
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I love the pastel look of all the Super Scope games. It's so SNES
Metal Combat is an awesome game. While you said it was relatively unchallenging that is only because you are effectively playing on the easiest story mode until you unlock what the game calls 'Real Mode' after beating the game once. Can be insanely challenging on the hardest difficulty and great fun.
One of the better SNES games I ever played and definitely one of my top 5.
Even on easy mode as a kid the last couple of bosses were very challenging for me
You guys read my mind. Only a few days ago, i was thinking that I would love to see a Super Scope video from you, as no one covers games like this channel does. Thank you! 🙏
I recently set up a Wii Remote with Bluetooth on my MiSTer, so this is extremely relevant to me.
Our house was one of the weird ones. The SNES package we bought, brand-new in the early 90s, was the Super Scope bundle. Sadly, I never knew of any games that supported it so I only ever played the bundled six-game cartridge.
I found that the best way to play games was to keep my glasses on - this was, of course, after my myopia had been diagnosed - and keep both eyes open. I could still tell where I was aiming through the pinhole, but I could also take in the whole screen at the same time.
These games were fun for our entire family for at least 7 Christmas parties and additional between the years. Fond memories of those Christmas dinners before and after the super scope 6 fun.
I was one of the weird kids that had a Super Scope. Got it & Battleclash for Christmas. It was awesome but definitely would wear your arms out having to hold it up for gameplay sessions. I wish I had kept it!
We had the super scope 6 & battle clash when we were grade school & we played it a lot. We enjoy all of the modes. It was so cool holding a bazooka.
I bought a Super Scope in ‘93 when they were reduced to £10 in the UK. I sold it a week later. Great video.
Awesome video, both for the nostalgic retrospective and for the informative reviews of games I hadn't even heard of! I came here because I randomly mentioned the Super Scope 6, which I had some fond memories of but I really only played two of the six minigames.
Battle Clash was quite underrated - I tried to show my friends how to use the charged up shots (or Laser Bolts, I think the game calls it?) but they didn't get it and just kept asking why their 'pea shooter' wasn't doing any damage. 😅 And that Lemmings 2 easter egg?! That was a lesser-known game in my collection, and I had no idea I could have been blowing off steam by blasting the poor little guys!
Anyway... great introduction to your channel.
Great stuff guys, I had one of these as a kid and it felt so good to revisit this!
Honestly one of my favorite episodes! Great job, guys! Hope all has been well!
Great video. I do still own a Super Scope, and I am a fan of lightgun titles in general.
I had no idea the color palettes would change between Super Scope and Non-SS modes. Shows how much i’ve played my Super Scope… That i’ve owned for 15 years…
"LET'S SCOPE EM OUT" (spit flying)
This was great! Seems like you had a lot of fun making this. Was surprised and delighted by the games that had hidden light-gun features, especially the 'seperate gunner and driver' feature in the lambo game!
This brings back some amazing memories , my friend and I spent endless hours on the super scope 😀
Battle Clash and Metal Cimbat are taking me back to '95!! I got the Superscope and both of those for Xmas!
Was when they couldnt move those things fast enough! LMADO
I LOVED those games!
I love still having a CRT for zapper games! Got a ton of them myself! But I've never had the Super Scope, since it was so big and unwieldly for me to use. But I've always wanted one! I think the hidden function to blast Lemmings is fantastic!
Game Sack does an "every game" video and then MLiG does one too...I'll certainly take more!
Yoshi's Safari uses the same soundfont that TOSE used in many of their other SNES games. The track 'Grand Bridge' is very similar to the menu music of Super Goal! 2. Much of the percussion rhythms are almost copy and paste.
I always thought about making a video about the Super Scope like this but never had the time or resources. Great work, and thanks for making it happen!
Would now love to see a Sega Menacer version of this !
@@mxttspl from what i remember as a kid I thought it was pretty good! Especially with the Mega Drive version of T2 the arcade game
Defending John Conner in the truck is what tripped me up all the time too... Both in the arcade AND the SNES version. When I played with my brothers? We'd finish the game more often than not.
Really amazed that Nintendo didn’t bring back Duck Hunt, who wouldn’t want to blow ducks outta the sky with a bazooka? 🤣
I bought a Super Scope as a kid. I quickly learned to keep my head level while looking through the sight, after getting a lovely pain in my neck the first time playing. But Battleclash is seriously one of the reasons I wanted to get a crt, I loved that game.
I grew up with Battle Clash, Metal Combat and Super Scope 6. Oddly enough though when my dad brought home the gun, he brought it home with Metal Combat, not the pack in title. It wasn't until later that i got the other two. Its honestly difficult to express how cool this thing was in the day. A lot of people coming over to see it expressed their amazement at it being wireless.
I had one of these as a kid - memories of it were hazy, but I don't remember it getting used often. It was fun, but not for extended periods of use!
I kinda wish Wild Guns on SNES had Super Scope support.
OMG yes, that would be amazing. I wonder if a romhack has been made to support it? I’ll have to look into that.
Edit: It doesn’t look like it from my few initial searches. Maybe it would be too complicated to implement something like that since I imagine it would have to be programmed from scratch. 😕
It would be pretty cool to have it as a side Co-op mode where one player control the character while the other shoot. Or a defense mode where you just shoot.
But as it is, the game require much more skill for control AND shoot to work as a Super Scope title imo.
It wouldn't make any sense... the game is balanced around not being able to shoot while moving, while also trying to incentivise dodging as little as possible until absolutely necessary.
Now something like Lethal Enforcers could definitely work with it...
I've been waiting for an episode like this because I've never been sure if I ever played a Super Scope game back in the day. After seeing them all on display here, I'm now %100 sure I never played any. I know my best friend had the scope when we were little but I guess I never tried it out lol
It wasn't till years after the Super Scope launched that I found out that there were more games then the cart that was included with the accessory.
I remember the NES Zapper feeling so amazing in the hands, I used to like just holding it and playing with it even when I wasn't playing Duck Hunt. After experiencing that and the Konami Justifier later on the Genesis I was shocked as a kid when I belatedly found out (I never had a SNES) that the Super Scope was the sequel to the Zapper. I had thought that it looked big, ugly, and cumbersome compared to the perfection that was the Zapper, I didn't understand why they didn't just make a Zapper II.
But you do know now why they didn't went with such a style, right?
The Wii light gun attachment was called "Wii Zapper" so I suppose that was the Zapper II or III.
I never had a super scope but I do know that battery technology has improved quite a bit since the early 1990s. That would explain why the super scope doesn't drain batteries nearly as fast as it did before.
Great episode! I've never really given the Super Scope a try outside of some years ago while trying to pair up receivers back when I worked retail but this really made me want to.
Maybe just me, but I like the Super Scope 6 cart a lot. Grew up playing SS6 and Yoshi's Safari on our system at home. The whack-a-mole was a favorite in the house and I liked all the LazerBlazer modes (Confront being the favorite of those modes). The co-op mode in Yoshi's Safari was fun and one of the ways my sister and I figured out getting along back then. True that SS6 wasn't really a big cohesive game or anything and was more of a tech demo for the Super Scope, but it certainly got a lot of play at home growing up. I'll have to keep my eyes out for some of these other games, though!
I hope you have had the chance to play hard mode on Metal Combat. It gives you a new st and it changes how many charges your guns get. Very fun. Great video
"This is the right way to do charged shots, none of that button holding nonsense"
The Super Scope item in Smash Bros would disagree with you.
The Super Scope was seen in shops in plenty of places in UK, but I never saw (or heard of until years later) the Sega Menacer.
Love Battle Clash. Bought a Super Scope about 20 years ago just for that. Since then picked up a few other. But Battle Clash and the sequel are the best games for it. I always thought it was a shame they didn't make a new game in the series for the Wii.
*4:09** I just love when props can be used with either hand.*
Come on, the Menacer is truly the joke of light guns. [Love the episode! Always enjoy when you guys diverge from pure A/V stuff.]
Great episode! I never knew there were so many SNES super scope games!
Great coverage! Thank you for the wonderful high quality images and reviews of these games.
There are dev documents that say to not call the wii remote the "nunchuck" anywhere and that the wii can never be used with a trigger too much like a rife, this superscope using a front button instead of a trigger and rear button on the top shows that after the Zapper Nintendo was super scared of appearing too gun like.
You could just buy a gun shell though.
4:13 Everybody who has used an actual scoped rifle should know this, but for those new to using real firearms: DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS WITH A REAL SNIPER'S RIFLE. While it may seem intuitive to put your eye up against the scope's eyepiece, on a real rifle you MUST have some space between the rear of the scope and your eye. Because on a real gun, the recoil you get when pulling the trigger will force the scope violently into your eye socket.
Thanks, I'm sure there's a huge crossover of video game enthusiasts & NRA nuts in here
Yea, I didn't put my eye up to the edge of the sight either. Also have glasses, which made that hard anyway. Though, was able to see through the scope well enough and usually kept both eyes open anyway just to see the whole screen easily.
@@siskavard You'd be surprised at the folks who like guns sometimes
@@SweetBean92 No, I'm not surprised at the amount of brain dead idiots in the world, sadly.
@@siskavard go shower off, I can smell the smug from here
Real missed opportunity not throwing in the Sega Genesis Menacer at the end.
I had a Superscope back in the 90’s when it came out and it was awesome!
I have a Super Nintendo, I have a CRT and people assume I bought the TV for light gun games but that thought never even entered my mind as I don't even know any SNES gun games
I wanted one of these so bad as a kid.. glad to know it doesn’t look like I was missing much 😂
X-Zone is definitely one of my personal favorite Super Scope games. By the way, the title of the game reminds me of a certain crossover game for the 3DS...
I actually prefer the MegaDrive (Genesis) version of T2: the arcade game. Not that it is better per se, I just prefer the music from Matt Furniss. Try, nice to see you have a C64 "breadbin". Any chance of a Commodore episode? I'd love to see MLIG perspective on the Amiga 👍😃
I bought one a couple months after its release. I was 12yo and I had to mow lawns to get and save the money but I got one without having to ask my parents for the money. By the time I was 15 I had two. Bought one used. I loved playing the pack-in game with my father. Lots of fun memories.
I actually had a Super Scope as a kid but the only game I ever got for it was Super Scope 6 so I hardly ever used it. It got relegated to the closet fairly quickly and then sold in a garage sale a few years later. Obviously wish I would have held onto it.
Great video! I have always thought about getting a Super Scope even as far back as the 90s, but just never got around to it. After developing a love for peripherals via Bemani and lightgun games on the PS and PS2, it'd be nice to go back and explore it a bit!
Super scope prices have gotten crazy. I remember seeing them for $0.01 + shipping on ebay around 2008-2009 or so.
If you cut parallel/serial you should be able to use this controller on the game M.A.C.S.
I didn't tried with the bazooka itself, but lots of reproduction guns.
Oh hey, Metal Combat is one of my all-time favorite games!
6:36 hold on... is that FIVE levels of parallax scrolling??
For the first time, Light Gun games are playable on VGA CRTs or HD flat CRTs thanks to the RetroTINK 5x Pro "frame lock" function.
Just waiting for the "all games with snes mouse support".
Super scope 6 has some of the most nostalgic music I'm blessed to have played it before I was 5 it's definitely not the best game . Yoshi safari is fun and metal combat falcon's revenge also has the best music to listen to
Out of curiosity, as it has a tracking box on top of the TV, does it work more like an air mouse, than a tradtional light gun? It's how Philips light gun on the CD-i worked.
Sort of like the power glove.
[Try4ce] No, it's pretty traditional. That gun works like other light guns, but it's just a way to send the console that information.
The box is just for the bazooka to be able to be wireless. The actual tracking is done through the tv scan lines like other lightguns.
@@mylifeingaming Ah, so it's basically a wireless version of the Zapper, I suppose something that bulky already would be even more of a hinderance with a cable attached.
Oh, it was called the "Nintendo Scope" in Europe, never found an explanation why.
@@Larry not entirely like the zapper - this one does 'pixel perfect' continuous tracking like a real arcade gun 😎
edit: big fan, btw!
I had one of these! It was a ton of fun. The batteries seemed to last forever for me so I never had that issue, and I played in a tiny room about as far from the screen as you or even closer with zero problem. It was a solid made thing.
Try is getting crazier each video, I love it 🤣
I had one of these! I saved up my money as a kid to get it, and mostly just played Battle Clash with it. Battle Clash was pretty fun, but then like no other games came out for it that I could find back then
Thank you for this! This is perfectly timed for me as I just got my hands on a free Super Scope (though it's missing the eye piece) and was wondering what games to get for it. Videos like this that show off games meant for a specific device like a light gun are a great idea. Now I just wonder if there are any Super Famicom only Super Scope games worth importing.
[Try4ce] I don't believe there are any Japan-only games for it, but it's hard to verify for sure!
@@mylifeingaming Yeah, I wondered about that, all the lists I can find online just list the games mentioned in this video and make no mention of other regions.
Very cool episode! I would love to see more like this on other accessories.
I ended up with 2 guns as well lol. Had one as a kid and once I began buying vintage games I got a comaptible TV and an Super Scope 6. I only ever had Battle Clash so now I can get more of the games I decided to get them all. Srill working on them but I am getting there. I only recently found out The Hunt for Red October is SS6 compatible. Im amazed that Operation Thundetbolt sells for as high as it does. I wasnt even aware of the Lethal Enforcer handgun-light gun. I have a few in my aights right now. They sell for a bit also but not as bad as a complete Suoer Scope 6.
I had one. It was pretty rad. Ran through batteries quickly though. Got the most run as a toy to shoot imaginary bad guys. The battle robot game was dope and the yoshi game was AWESOME.
I loved the superstore growing up. We had so much fun playing the games. Same with the Mario paint.
Fantastic Video!
I'm a big Lightgunfan since the GCon45 when I turned 18. My parents never allowed me to buy a Lightgun before. But I made up for it and now I own 4 Super Scopes and 4 Battleclashes. I only knew one classmate in the 90s who own a Super Scope, but I was not a big fan of it cause to the size. We liked the Menacer for Mega Drive much more.
Thank you for this video. I couldn't think how to describe these to my wife, so I Google searched SNES Bazooka and found your video. This video is so underviewed! Thank you again gah! I can't wait to pickup one of these off eBay when I can haha!
Whenever I was a kid, I purchased a loose cartridge of Yoshi's Safari, thinking it was another platformer starring Yoshi instead of Mario. Needless to say I was quite disappointed when I realized I couldn't play it.. About 8 years ago when began playing my old games again, I decided to purchase a Super Scope to finally try it after all those years. It was fun, but unsure how soon I'll play it again.
Great to see this relative oddball peripheral come back to light! Thanks for the video!
Big fan and respect the superscope very much! Own every game MINT and cib.
Very fun to speedrun yoshi's safari.
3:04 I don't know if I'm imagining things, but batteries seem to have become a lot more efficient than 20 or 30 years ago.
Or maybe it was because back then, I was pulling batteries out of the TV remote half the time...
Dual- wielding Super Scopes is the only reason I need to own two Super Scopes. To eBay!
Oddly enough, my dad had a Menacer for the Genesis back in the day, and the one game he and I used it for was T2. I wish he still had it - I'd probably sell it, but he just tosses things.
I had one when I was a kid. I'm 37 now and I miss it
Pure nostalgia 👍 love your videos
Hey I'm Try-it's me Try! and welcome, to Punching Weight!
I got a Super Scope for Christmas as a kid and I was the talk of the neighborhood!
For some reason I still have it, and the box it came in... just missing the rubber end of the sight. (I wear glasses, so maybe that's why I took it off and it got lost). It's just something that I've never sold or tossed, it keeps getting slipped in with all my moving boxes every time I go somewhere else.
It was VERY likely I was the only one in my neighborhood that owned a Super Scope. Battle Clash and Metal Combat were the best games for it.
I remember being really disappointed back in the day. I found it uncomfortable and it strained my eyes. Also I never got any other games apart from the pack in. But definitely would like to give it a test again with some of these other games and reassess it again.
Not the Illusion of Gaia music during the sponsored ad 💀😂
Lol, I had the superscope as a kid for Battle Clash/Metal Combat, cool game if I remember right.
One of my friends had one. I always wanted one for my SNES as a kid but my parents never wanted to buy it. I always had fun with it.
I was the rare kid on the block that got the super scope for my birthday. lol! I loved it..but only had the game that came with it.
I got the Scope along with my SNES as a kid, i thought it was cool although I only owned SS6, which was a very limited set of games. The only other game I'd even heard of that was compatible with it was Yoshi's Safari, which I wasn't going to pick when I had games like Terranigma or Secret of Mana to choose from instead. The batteries did drain like crazy, especially if you forgot to turn it off. SS6 was also a missed opportunity, Blastris could've been a lot better.
I'm glad to see you like X-Zone, I tried it a while ago on my SD2SNES with my scope on a whim and couldn't put it down, the hard mode is insane and very intense, I was just waving my scope around trying to get everything. I kind of wish it had some way for the player to raise a shield or something to protect against hitscan minigun weapons because hard mode at some point becomes almost impossible, I still think it's the best scope game though.
I got a Super Scope for $10 on clearance at KBee Toy Store probably around 95, the compatible games were all $10 or less as well at that point so I bought Battleclash. The experience was great for the first 6 months, all the games that were compatible were easy to rent from video stores, I would rent them and beat them in a weekend pretty easily. Most games were very enjoyable. Then I started to have calibration issues, I think the censor inside the "transmitter" started to drift, eventually I couldn't even get any shots to register, so at about the 1 year mark after buying it, I think I just threw it in the trash and called it a day, eventually got rid of my copy of Battleclash since I wrote off the peripheral as cheap garbage with no intention of purchasing another one. I was the only person I knew who owned one, so I can't speak to anyone else's experience with it. I'm always surprised to see one working almost 30 years later because of how quickly mine had deteriorated.
We had the scope back in the day and it didn't work. So we took it back to the shop and picked up the Street fighter 2 game and console pack. It was a great Christmas.
Great stuff!! So will there be a “every game that’s compatible with the SNES Mouse” video too?
I can’t think of anything other than mario paint. Did it have other games?
@@Ottophil some rpg's.... Arcana?
@@Ottophil I know there’s a Super Famicom exclusive game called Mario & Wario that I think was a SNES Mouse exclusive title
I had one growing up and man I freaking loved it
Metal Combat also has a battery, just like Tin Star.
7:24 Oh, look! You have to help the Red Baron. :v