They didn't say that. They said 'is a KTM motor' meaning is a KTM design. China is great at manufacturing (generally speaking) its the long history of design that they don't have.
@@zacharyevling7251wrong. They have been making engines in China longer than anywhere else killer. They have been designing and manufacturing, in general, for thousands of years. 😂 wake the f up
Bro great review. I'm from Malaysia and i own the Papio for almost 4 months now. It looks retro and cool, i ride it everyday to go to work. And it's fast too.
@@muhdhaqqani9675 mcm bawak moto 125 bro, tp style sportbike, ringan senang bawak. Aku hantar kedai je kalau tukar minyak hitam, ada filter. X mahal maintain, so far xda masalah, brek dia pun ada ABS, safety ada.
Ive owned the CF MOTO 650 for a year now and the more I ride it the more I love it. Sold all my big bikes, HD's, Raider, Big Dog and more. Decided I was tired of the same old riding life and went to a smaller 650 Adventura and I am having a blast.
That’s Kawasaki’s worst motor arguably, and the cf moto version is like 10 years old or so which is why the NK650 doesn’t look just like a z650, you have to compare it to a older z650 and you’ll notice the frame is identical. Depending on whether you plan to own it for life or not, I’d consider selling it ASAP, as values will only continue to plummet. My friend bought a NK650 brand new at 60% off at the start of summer as they were desperate to get rid of the old Kawasaki based bikes & only have the KTM derivatives. Unfortunately that also drives down used values, which is kinda shitty for buyers who paid near full price
@JoeBleaux69 the longer they keep it the more value they get. If they like it and aren't having many problems why get rid of it. At some point it will hit a value then stay there for years and years.
@@potterportraits that’s a flawed analysis. If you prefer to view it as a math problem, which seems highly improbable given said analysis, then your representation fails to account for multiple variables and therefore cannot be solved
Shattered Papio is CBS but works out good as Husqvarna 401 $6k new at my dealer (22 or 23) the 24 401 was a little over $8k. $6k with quick shift and blip fitted etc for $1700 more
Had an Ibex 800 T for about a month, couldn't live with it. Cheap, fast above 6k, loved the look, totally loaded, but the parts def equaled less than the sum. Very difficult to ride smoothly at slow speeds for offroad (even with a new ECU), handlebar buzz at speed. They just need to work on refining them.
I Didn't know in states the front turn signals are different... I guess regulations?? Originally those lights are part of the body panels . If I'm not mistaken
yup, at 6'7" I appreciate your 6'6" comment, but I am riding a Kawasaki Versys x300 which is fun too. *but my legs are not flat like on shorter motorcycles, this one would be knees sticking up in handle bars or something like that / so, maybe not a good fit for me. *so CUTE as a moto.
Different concept, but if CF Moto made this design for a larger bike-something in the 300-400cc range with two cylinders-I’d buy one tomorrow! Personally, I wouldn’t get much use out of a mini moto in the area I live in.
I recently bought one myself purely for the astetics I was curious if you were planning on swapping a more powerful motor into that what would be your consideration I can tell you that you have at the very most about 18 in of height to work with would really appreciate your thoughts on this and congratulations on your new papio they're pretty cool little bikees but severely underpowered need the power of an ohvale atleast stay safe on two wheels
Only the Monkey can compete with this one in the "dang, that looks cool and fun" department. If Honda ever decides to bring the Dax to 'merica, that would be in that mix as well. Plus a 6-speed transmission? That thing is going to cut deep into Grom sales.
The savings is that the base KTM comes with literally nothing. They trick you when you purchase it because all of the features are activated during break in then they deactivate and you have to pay like $2K to reactivate all the features you got comfortable with. The Ibex comes with everything and more than the KTM. It apparently does have some iffy ECU in the USA which I have heard you can request your dealer to apply the Australian ECU tune and it makes the bike run A LOT better.
this is a nice bike i would not say it is the best mini moto i have tested a lot of them what do i this is the best mini moto hands down the lifan kp mini the best i have ever tested test ride one see what you think compare it to this
I have the Papio 2022. It is modified into a scrambler with knobbies, hand guards, etc. GREAT trail bike. I wanted the new CL Papio until I saw the dumb exhaust. I MUST HAVE a rear rack for trips - and there is no way to put a tail bag over that exhaust. FAIL on this design for CF Moto! Go back to the dual sport style exhaust.
Ktm does not make motors for Cfmoto !! CFMoto makes the motors for KTM you guys have it backwards.
They didn't say that. They said 'is a KTM motor' meaning is a KTM design. China is great at manufacturing (generally speaking) its the long history of design that they don't have.
@@zacharyevling7251wrong. They have been making engines in China longer than anywhere else killer. They have been designing and manufacturing, in general, for thousands of years. 😂 wake the f up
Yamaha and cfmoto are a moto conglomerate as of eirly 2024. power band is from 6000-8500 9000 ish.. i have one its my daily
@@zacharyevling7251they did in fact say that… look at the beginning of the video again
CF Moto also makes motors for KTM in Asia.
Bro great review. I'm from Malaysia and i own the Papio for almost 4 months now. It looks retro and cool, i ride it everyday to go to work. And it's fast too.
bro mcm mana feeling? minyak itam semua senang ke nk tuka? ada filter ke ? ade masalah tak so far?
@@muhdhaqqani9675 mcm bawak moto 125 bro, tp style sportbike, ringan senang bawak. Aku hantar kedai je kalau tukar minyak hitam, ada filter. X mahal maintain, so far xda masalah, brek dia pun ada ABS, safety ada.
Nice ah..aku un cadang nak amik moto ni
@@sharul2408 beli bro. Ride dlm bandar best, orang pun pandang
Looking forward to the mini-moto comparisons!! Y'all do good work, and mini motos are such a fun segment.
Ive owned the CF MOTO 650 for a year now and the more I ride it the more I love it. Sold all my big bikes, HD's, Raider, Big Dog and more. Decided I was tired of the same old riding life and went to a smaller 650 Adventura and I am having a blast.
I was skimming comments and thought you said you had owned one for 650 years
That’s Kawasaki’s worst motor arguably, and the cf moto version is like 10 years old or so which is why the NK650 doesn’t look just like a z650, you have to compare it to a older z650 and you’ll notice the frame is identical.
Depending on whether you plan to own it for life or not, I’d consider selling it ASAP, as values will only continue to plummet. My friend bought a NK650 brand new at 60% off at the start of summer as they were desperate to get rid of the old Kawasaki based bikes & only have the KTM derivatives.
Unfortunately that also drives down used values, which is kinda shitty for buyers who paid near full price
@JoeBleaux69 the longer they keep it the more value they get. If they like it and aren't having many problems why get rid of it. At some point it will hit a value then stay there for years and years.
@@potterportraits that’s a flawed analysis. If you prefer to view it as a math problem, which seems highly improbable given said analysis, then your representation fails to account for multiple variables and therefore cannot be solved
@@JoeBleaux69 a lot of words just to say nothing. Your reason to sell is issues and diminished value. Then you state it's not a math problem . 🙄.
You have to add Moto GP style winglets on the fairing!
I thought the cybertruck tail gate is a ramp. did they removed that feature also???
Yes. It’s why there’s not one in my garage atm.
@@skinnymanmedia4666lol in retrospect they probably saved you thousands 😂
@@h-disconnected6612 with 10s of thousands price hike? 😆
Im 6 foot how does it feel riding it?
This is the best looking motorcycle that I've seen in years. Well done CF Moto. You have to release this one it's amazing 🤩👍❤️🏴
CF Moto guy has a great voice for Radio or Video!!
Brodie should change “It’s going to be” to “it is”
That's awesome Alex keep up the great videos
they're working on a bigger bike now with a retro look. pretty exciting.
I can't find it. Do you have the info by any chance? Thank you
@@Erynnin it's called Voom 500 SR, Dizimini just made a video about it.
@@donderstorm1845 thank you
Shattered Papio is CBS but works out good as Husqvarna 401 $6k new at my dealer (22 or 23) the 24 401 was a little over $8k. $6k with quick shift and blip fitted etc for $1700 more
Love my clx700 sport. Papio SS is what im wanting for the next year savings
A minimoto road trip series!
I did a first rude video on one about 8 months ago. It was such a fun bike to ride
These bikes are a riot. Main Street cycle has tunes for them as well
Thank you, Alex, a day out riding is another day not in the office.
how tall are you. and, valve maintenace is easy?
3..maybe 4 years ago I suggested u guys do ATV, SxS, motorcycle videos. RUclipsr(s) were showing up to events and only 0-1 RUclipsrs attended!
Awesome video
DOES YOUR PAPIO COME WITH CBS? I just test rode today and cancelled the order straight away as its CBS (Press rear brake and front brakes 😔)
Great video! I want one. Thank you!
Get the screens for the sides like we did on our showroom floor!!!
Had an Ibex 800 T for about a month, couldn't live with it. Cheap, fast above 6k, loved the look, totally loaded, but the parts def equaled less than the sum. Very difficult to ride smoothly at slow speeds for offroad (even with a new ECU), handlebar buzz at speed. They just need to work on refining them.
I test rode one and left the dealership with a V-Strom 800 DE.
I really want to see a bigger papio. I love the design but I want a 350 o 450cc version of it
It's an upright motor... Lots of possible swaps.
900cc big brother would be great.
@@Wajang1 lol, literally the z900rs "cafe"
@@martykasa7864 Looks different,but specs yes.
the 500cc voom is almost a bigger version
I Didn't know in states the front turn signals are different... I guess regulations?? Originally those lights are part of the body panels . If I'm not mistaken
yup, at 6'7" I appreciate your 6'6" comment, but I am riding a Kawasaki Versys x300 which is fun too. *but my legs are not flat like on shorter motorcycles, this one would be knees sticking up in handle bars or something like that / so, maybe not a good fit for me. *so CUTE as a moto.
I got a PAPIO SS
it's a lot of fun to ride it
Different concept, but if CF Moto made this design for a larger bike-something in the 300-400cc range with two cylinders-I’d buy one tomorrow! Personally, I wouldn’t get much use out of a mini moto in the area I live in.
The CFMoto 450MT is proving really popular!
I recently bought one myself purely for the astetics I was curious if you were planning on swapping a more powerful motor into that what would be your consideration I can tell you that you have at the very most about 18 in of height to work with would really appreciate your thoughts on this and congratulations on your new papio they're pretty cool little bikees but severely underpowered need the power of an ohvale atleast stay safe on two wheels
Love the people in this vlog not the bike itself. 😂. Wholesome team
I was there in March I looked at the same bike. I can't believe, it's still there...
Only the Monkey can compete with this one in the "dang, that looks cool and fun" department. If Honda ever decides to bring the Dax to 'merica, that would be in that mix as well. Plus a 6-speed transmission? That thing is going to cut deep into Grom sales.
when the 500 comes out i think youll fall in ove. papio design but an inline 4 banger!! rev to the moon, probably be a better zx400rr
If you drive this as hard as I would and it doesn't break, I'd consider it . Resale is not a concern for me cus I'd e keeping it.
I love CFMOTO!
Any issues on your SS as of today. What's the mileage on yours?
@@WalkinOSF No issues. Had one recall that they fixed right away. Just over 2k miles.
I'm glad you've picked up on this. Probably not much available for mod.'s??
The Ibex 800 is the same price as the 2024 ktm 790 so where is the savings?
The savings is that the base KTM comes with literally nothing.
They trick you when you purchase it because all of the features are activated during break in then they deactivate and you have to pay like $2K to reactivate all the features you got comfortable with.
The Ibex comes with everything and more than the KTM.
It apparently does have some iffy ECU in the USA which I have heard you can request your dealer to apply the Australian ECU tune and it makes the bike run A LOT better.
i was just in elite powersports the other day small world
Is Honda Monkey more comfortable?
Enjoy the bike! Yo Alex @ TFL GO BIRDS!!!!
More CFMOTO!!! I own one. Love it!
Im not a fan of the "styling" but i am a huge fan of the 6spd drivetrain. I'll stick with my TNT
Finally a channel without Igor!!!
Different front tail lights with CF Moto papio xo1 in Indonesia
this is a nice bike i would not say it is the best mini moto i have tested a lot of them what do i this is the best mini moto hands down the lifan kp mini the best i have ever tested test ride one see what you think compare it to this
Awesome 😎🤜🤛
Agree with Tommy!!!😂
🔥 Alex 🔥
I have the Papio 2022. It is modified into a scrambler with knobbies, hand guards, etc. GREAT trail bike. I wanted the new CL Papio until I saw the dumb exhaust. I MUST HAVE a rear rack for trips - and there is no way to put a tail bag over that exhaust. FAIL on this design for CF Moto! Go back to the dual sport style exhaust.
How did I know yall would tho
Tommy is looking more like has dad.
Is it a Grom? CFMoto is spending those marketing dollars.
you lost me at KTM motor. I like reliability
Saludos desde México Bro ya me suscribi yo también ago contenido 🇲🇽🤠🙌
I just saw that bike in Aliexpress for $750 🤔. Wonder if it's real
No
best communist motorcycles. prolly wouldnt buy one personally, but i will say for the money you get quiet alot of bike/features with cfmoto.
It's not even the best brand in China, but it's the only company considered US market seriously.
1:22 you lost me as soon as Brody Spicoli came out ☹️
10k for knock offs??? Damn, You can buy MT 09 for that
please help him learn how to strap down a bike properly
Still waiting on Yamaha to make a minimoto 😒
Bring back ! YSR 50! 2 stroke for LIFE!
Great
no thanks
I’ll stick with my Honda
I know it will last a long time if I take care of it
Not for 500 or 600 dollars
Huh? Lmao!!!
Your sell phone is made by China think about.
Rob, Replicate, Replace. No thanks.
Or you could look at it as more competition for the grom that could help drive prices down and bring quality up.
Awesome bike, dumb truck.
CF moto made by China totally unreliable engine 😅
Your sell phone is made by China think about man.
waiting for the 400sr